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 5 years ago '04        #10341
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Berman

The Knicks have emerged as the favorite to sign 31-year-old Slovenian point guard Beno Udrih to a $1.27 million minimum contract, according to two sources. An announcement could come as soon as Thursday.

The Knicks will consider it a great value signing since Udrih made $7 million last season, leaving the Knicks long shots to land him. But the market apparently dried up for the left-handed veteran who has played on four teams, including Orlando and Milwaukee last season when he combined for 66 games.

The Knicks are looking for a third point guard to complement Raymond Felton and Pablo Prigioni. Being from Europe is another plus for Udrih, as Italy’s Andrea Bargnani is known to prefer hanging out with Europeans or foreign players.

Udrih averaged 8.2 points with 4.6 a.ssists last season. He has also played with San Antonio and Sacramento, mostly as a backup. In 628 games, he has made 243 starts.

Wednesday, the Knicks worked out point guard Bobby Brown of the Italian League, but he likely will finish runner-up to Udrih, whom the Knicks prefer. Brown had already signed with a Chinese team but can break the deal by Aug. 15.

If Udrih signs, that would leave the Knicks with 14 players under contract after inking big man Jeremy Tyler on Tuesday. That leaves one roster spot available and it could become a battle in training camp with several invitees with non-guaranteed deals. Point guard Toure Murry impressed in summer league, but could be the odd man out if the Knicks nab Udrih.

“If he signs with the Knicks, the reasons will not be because of the money,” Udrih’s agent, Marc Cornstein, told The Post last week. “It would be a disservice to say they’re long shots or favorites. He’s examining the situations.’’

Memphis and San Antonio were also courting Udrih. Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald said last month a third point guard was important because of the possibility of injury to Felton or Prigioni. Plus, coach Mike Woodson could elect to start Prigioni and Felton in a two-point-guard backcourt if they had someone as reliable as Udrih behind them.

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Andrea Bargnani will sit out the three-game exhibition tournament for Team Italy that began Wednesday against Georgia because of lingering effects of a fever. Team Italy is prepping for September’s European Championships.
 5 years ago '04        #10342
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Beno Udrih is NYK bound, said to have signed his deal last night
 5 years ago '07        #10343
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 Born_Loser said:
Beno Udrih is NYK bound, said to have signed his deal last night

 5 years ago '04        #10344
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Brian Windhorst

The New York Knicks have agreed to a one-year deal with free-agent point guard Beno Udrih, sources told ESPN.com.

Udrih will sign for $1.27 million and back up starter Raymond Felton along with veteran guard Pablo Prigioni, who re-signed with the Knicks earlier this summer. He will fill the spot on the roster vacated by Jason Kidd, who retired to become the head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.

The lefty Slovenian played well for the Orlando Magic at the end of last season after he was acquired from the Milwaukee Bucks. He averaged 10.2 points and 6.1 a.ssists in 27 games for the Magic. Overall in 66 games in Milwaukee and Orlando, the nine-year veteran averaged 8.2 points and 4.6 a.ssists on 44 percent shooting.

According to a league source with knowledge of the decision, Memphis was a strong suitor and Philadelphia also showed interest in Udrih, whose deciding factor was his chance to win with the Knicks.

The Knicks had limited options in free agency this summer because of their salary-cap position but have added Metta World Peace and Udrih. Earlier this week, they signed big man Jeremy Tyler to a partially guaranteed contract. The Knicks also re-signed J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin and Prigioni. They traded for big man Andrea Bargnani.

The Knicks now have 14 players under contract, and the Udrih deal will push their luxury tax bill to more than $32 million and their total payroll to $119.8 million, including taxes.
 5 years ago '08        #10345
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udrih/felton/prigs
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 5 years ago '04        #10346
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CJ DUH YUNH GAWD TU
 5 years ago '04        #10347
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if this squad is not selfish, imagine this sqaud on the floor together and they have they sh*t together

Udrih, Smitty, Melo, Barg & Amar'e....all that space in the paint for n*ggas to drive
 5 years ago '07        #10348
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Grunwald GOT IT DONE
 5 years ago '04        #10349
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Berman

Beno Udrih won titles with the Spurs in 2005 and 2007, but had since lost that exciting feeling of being in the title chase.

That’s why the Knicks got their man Thursday. The 6-foot-3 Slovenian point guard signed with the Knicks for less money, agreeing to his veterans minimum of $1.27 million as the Knicks put a solid capper to their summer maneuverings. They were desperate for a third point guard because they like to pair Raymond Felton and Pablo Prigioni together in the backcourt.

After seasons with the Kings, Bucks and Magic, Udrih wanted to win again. His agent, Marc Cornstein, said Udrih had “many offers,’’ including at least one for more than the minimum.

“He had been on rebuilding teams and he was ready to go back to the big stage,’’ Cornstein told The Post. “It was really important for him to go back to competing for a title.’’

The Post reported Wednesday the Knicks emerged as favorites for Udrih and were on verge of a deal. Udrih met with Mike Woodson, general manager Glen Grunwald and a.ssistant GM Allan Houston Monday night.

“He was extremely impressed,’’ Cornstein said. “They were straight forward, clear about his role, and he’s really satisfied. He likes how Woodson plays multiple guards.’’

Grunwald said in a statement Udrih brings “more depth and flexibility” and is “a talented and experienced floor general who brings championship experience to our locker room.’’

The Knicks have 14 of their 15 roster spots filled. With little money under cap rules to spend, they did well in adding Metta World Peace and Udrih for a combined $2.8 million.
 5 years ago '04        #10350
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Berman

J.R. Smith said it doesn’t matter what the Nets did this summer, the Knicks still are Kings of New York.

Making his first remarks of the offseason and since his left knee surgery in mid-July, Smith praised the Knicks summer additions and said if he plays well in next season’s playoffs, it won’t matter what other clubs have done.

“It’s an unbelievable move for J-Kidd [Nets coach Jason Kidd] to have a team like that to start off his first year,’’ Smith said at his charity golf tournament in Lakewood, N.J. Thursday. “They have a great chance to compete for a title. But we’re still the marquee team in New York. A lot of people are counting us out just like last year . We have a lot to prove. We’ll come out with a lot of edge and hopefully put it to positive use on the court.’’

Smith had knee surgery to repair a torn meniscus and a chipped patella tendon last month and is expected to miss three to four months. As first reported in The Post, his play was affected in the Indiana playoff series because of fluid on his knee.

Now, Smith said he feels he is back to Sixth Man of the Year form, and the Knicks will be dangerous.

“My motivation is because how bad I played last year [in the playoffs],’’ Smith said. “I’ve seen moves the other teams made. It didn’t affect us unless I don’t play well. If I don’t play well, unfortunately we don’t win. If I play well, we won’t have to worry about anyone else.’’

Smith said he doesn’t know when he will return, but still hasn’t ruled out competing in training camp and playing in the Oct. 30 opener against the Bucks at the Garden.

The rehabbing guard had a slight limp yesterday and was unable to play in his golf event benefitting the J.R. Smith Youth Foundation.

“It’s still too early to tell from what I hear from the doctors but I hope so, I want to be there opening night,’’ Smith said. “I want to start training camp with the team.’’

Smith said he liked the Knicks offseason moves, including yesterday’s signing of point guard Beno Udrih that puts a finish to their summer moves.

“Beno is an unbelievable point guard,’’ Smith said of Udrih. “He played great against us last year versus Milwaukee. He’ll definitely help myself, Ray [Felton], Carmelo [Anthony]. He’s a pass-first point guard and can knock down an open shot.’’

Smith called Metta World Peace “an all out warrior’’ and Andrea Bargnani “one of the underrated guys in the league.’’

Smith also said he is ready to move on after his woeful series against the Pacers in the second round of the playoffs.

“I’m not going to make excuses why I played so bad,” he said. “I want to come back next year 100 percent and have a better playoffs.’’
 5 years ago '04        #10351
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Jared Zwerling

"Source: Lithuanian big #Knicks worked out this week was Ovidijus Galdikas. Initial thoughts were Robertas Javtokas or Mindaugas Kuzminskas."
 5 years ago '07        #10352
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 Born_Loser said:
Jared Zwerling

"Source: Lithuanian big #Knicks worked out this week was Ovidijus Galdikas. Initial thoughts were Robertas Javtokas or Mindaugas Kuzminskas."
could help on D, for those asking "who is this guy?"

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 5 years ago '04        #10353
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In the top-heavy East, ESPN experts predict #Knicks will finish 5th. Why they are right, why they could be wrong:

Hahn

Last season, when the Knicks clinched their first Atlantic Division since 1994, there was vindication in the lack of validation. Last season not one member of the ESPN panel picked the Knicks to win the division.

This season, after the Knicks finished second in the East, the ESPN panel predicts the Knicks will drop to fifth. But it's not necessarily a sign of disrespect or an indication that the team got worse.

It's that the East got better and the Knicks, the experts say, didn't.

As long as LeBron James is physically invincible, the Heat remain the favorites. Derrick Rose's return makes the Bulls a favorite again and the Indiana Pacers got tougher, which didn't seem possible.

Then there's the Nets, who added two Hall of Famers in Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierece, to form an all-star starting five with a strong bench.

The Knicks made some notable changes, too, with the additions of Andrea Bargnani, Metta World Peace and Beno Udrih. But they're still lacking in rebounding and the core of the team is still made of up players that members of the basketball media just can't trust or embrace. And then there's Amar'e Stoudemire and the fact that he takes up $20M in payroll and may only be able to play 20 minutes a night. Not to mention JR Smith, arguably the team's second-most important offensive player, coming off knee surgery.

So while the Knicks didn't make any dramatic improvements or directly address issues from last season (passing, rebounding), it's still fair to say they didn't get worse. In fact, you could argue that, by getting younger, they have better potential. But it may not be enough to maintain the No. 2 spot in the East.

However, that's also a.ssuming Rose, after a full season off, can go right back to being the MVP-caliber dynamo he was before the knee injury. It's a.ssuming Danny Granger and Paul George can coexist in the Pacers' offense while Roy Hibbert still feels involved. It's also a.ssuming that KG and Pierce, who looked out of gas at the end of last season, have enough left to make a difference through 82 games.

It's a.ssuming Bargnani isn't rejuvenated playing off Melo and MWP doesn't provide the ruggedness this team lacked last season. It's a.ssuming Tyson Chandler won't go back to being a defensive stalwart.

Oh and let's not forget the emerging Iman Shumpert, who will have a full season.

Don't get mad at predictions, read them to get a better understanding. This wil be an interesting season on many levels for the Knicks.
 5 years ago '04        #10354
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Jorge Sierra

Gary Forbes is working out for the Los Angeles Lakers on Tuesday, according to a source.

Forbes will also have a workout for the New York Knicks next week.

Forbes played in China last season with the Zhejiang Lions.
 5 years ago '05        #10355
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Thanks for always keeping me informed born_loser
 5 years ago '04        #10356
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Jared Zwerling

The Knicks and free-agent center Earl Barron, who joined the team late last season, have strong mutual interest, according to a source close to the player.

"He wants to be back in New York. There has been a lot of interest, and that's with them and with them to us," the source said. "I think it's just going to be one of those wait situations, where I think the signing of Jeremy Tyler didn't really knock [Barron] out of it, but it slowed the process up for him for sure."

"But Earl wants to be a Knick. He's waiting for the Knicks to pull the trigger. He thinks that the Knicks will have a chance to win a championship, and he wants to be a part of it."

While the Knicks signed Tyler, 22, to a two-year, non-guaranteed contract, they still could use a seasoned backup center like the 7-0 Barron, a solid rebounder and rim protector who could play key minutes off the bench depending on the matchup. That's especially true for when the Knicks face the Nets and Pacers, who both upgraded their frontcourt. Overall, the group of serviceable big men available is slim.

The source said five other NBA teams have invited Barron to training camp this fall, but the Knicks remain the priority. In fact, both sides have met "a couple of times already" this summer, according to the source.

Barron, 32, appeared in seven games (six starts) for the Knicks in 2009-10, averaging 11.7 points and 11.0 rebounds over 33.1 minutes. Last season, while he only played in one regular-season game for the Knicks -- an 11-point, 18-rebound performance on April 17 against the Hawks -- the source said he impressed Mike Woodson during his short stint.

"I think Mike Woodson likes him a lot because of the professionalism he showed this year," the source said. "He went from a vacation -- a weekend trip with his family -- to flying into D.C., drove to the airport and flew to New York and got in at midnight. He worked out for the coaches at 6 o'clock that morning, took the physical after that and then played 36 minutes that same night, and he had almost 20 boards. Earl kept his body right."

The source said it's "hard to tell" what move the Knicks will make next.

"I don't know what they're searching for," he said. "I do know that a lot of the Knicks' brass wants Earl there."

On Wednesday at the Knicks' training facility, Woodson commented on how the team might fill the remaining roster spot, saying, "I don't know. Most teams kind of wait late. ... If somebody falls through the cracks, it might give us an opportunity to snatch another body."

For most of the summer, Barron has been working out in Washington, D.C., with Dan Connelly, the younger brother of NBA executives Pat and Tim who is an advance scout for the Jazz. Barron has been in the gym a few times with Wizards center Emeka Okafor.

The source said Barron will not pursue another deal, including overseas, until he has clear direction from the Knicks. Barron is open to the veteran's minimum, which is all the team can offer.

"Earl just wants to play," the source said. "He just wants to be a part of a winning situation. He was on a championship team with the Miami Heat. He's been around. He's a serviceable veteran, but he's more of a great locker-room guy."
 5 years ago '08        #10357
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What yall think the starting lineup should be?

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 5 years ago '04        #10358
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i read on knicksnow woodson said only guaranteed starters are tyson, melo, n felton, training camp will decide the remaining 2 spots
 5 years ago '07        #10359
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Barron isn't a bad look... I'd prefer Ivan to keep us deeper, but if not then Earl is a good look too... I remember that 18 rebound night
 5 years ago '04        #10360
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Could Andrea Bargnani's illness cause a reason for Knicks to sweat his readiness for training camp?

Hahn

The Italian national team was already down a man at next month's Eurobasket in Slovenia, with Danilo Gallinari out while recovering from ACL surgery.

Bargnani is now almost a.ssured to miss the tournament, which runs from Sept. 4-22, after coming down with pneumonia.

"I'm home trying to get better as quickly as possible," he said on Twitter.

I wouldn't expect the Knicks would want to see Bargnani hurry back to the court, especially if he's not at full strength.

"We've got to be cautious and make sure that we nurse him back before we put him back on the basketball floor," Mike Woodson told ESPNNY.com. "We're still trying to make sure he's healthy . . . and right now he's not ready to play."

There is still six weeks before NBA training camps begin, so he has plenty of time to recover, get back in the gym and regain his strength to prepare for the coming season. And while playing for the national team is important to European players, being ready for his first year in New York -- as a key player on a contending team -- must be his only priority right now.

Bargnani has missed 82 games over the last two seasons (one being a lockout-shortened 66-game season) due to elbow and calf injuries. In recent years, the former No. 1 overall pick's durability has come into question, along with his conditioning and his desire to play at a high level.

But the Knicks see the potential for him to be a dynamic fit in their spread-the-floor offense and, with two years left on his contract, are banking on the 27-year-old flourishing in a supporting role with Carmelo Anthony.

The investment made cost little in bodies (seldom-used Marcus Camby and rotation refugee Steve Novak) but they did send a 2016 first round pick in the deal.

Bargnani can certainly help this team, but only if he can stay healthy. This is why the Knicks probably shouldn't allow Bargnani to play for Italy at all next month. They need him at full strength when training camp begins.
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