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 4 years ago '04        #10241
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Berman

LAS VEGAS – Point guard Chris Smith has to now prove he’s more than J.R.’s younger brother.

That Smith is a lock for the 15-man roster as part of a package deal with J.R. is likely the case. But even Smith said there’s no guarantees. He’s got to perform.

“Nothing,’’ Smith said, “is etched in stone. I have to play my cards right.’’

Smith is expected to come off the bench in Friday’s Knicks Summer League opener vs. New Orleans at Thomas Mack Center at UNLV. It appears the coaching staff desperately wants to see Iman Shumpert at the point in a starting backcourt pairing with their first-round pick, shooting guard Tim Hardaway Jr.

Shumpert probably won’t play more than three games so Smith will slide back to starting PG when he leaves Vegas.

“I’ll get my chance to prove what I can do on court in the next couple of weeks,’’ said Smith, who played at the University of Louisville. “If they want me to come to training camp, great. If not, I’m playing for 30 other teams. My goal is to make the team and have the brotherly tandem everyone’s talking about.’’

Smith was a fixture around the Knicks last season. He had a partially guaranteed contract entering training camp after having a nice Summer League. He was a favorite to make the team.

After tearing his knee patella tendon in preseason, Smith was waived but the Knicks didn’t wave goodbye. He spent all year rehabbing at the Tarrytown practice facility and showed up at almost all the home games, as much a part of the locker room as Jason Kidd.

J.R. is here in Vegas to watch his brother after signing a four-year, $24.7 million deal with the Knicks. Chris fired his agent Marc Cornstein recently, and hired J.R.’s agent, Leon Rose.

“I’m very excited,’’ Smith said. “It’s the first time playing in nine, 10 months. I’m overly excited.’’

Smith said just being around the Knicks last season was a terrific experience in helping his game.

“I’m more focused now,’’ Smith said. “It’s different. I watched Jason Kidd, Pablo Prigioni and Raymond. I have a better mindset as a point guard on how to run a team.’’

The Knicks likely will start Shumpert-Hardaway-C.J. Leslie as their trio. The Knicks have yet to sign a third PG to the roster so Knicks GM Glen Grunwald said he wants to see Shumpert at the point after playing there occasionally as a rookie.

Knicks fans believe Shumpert is taking a risk playing in Vegas because of his surgically repaired knee. But that’s a silly sentiment, especially because he has never played in summer league. The lockout robbed him of summer league as a rookie and last July he was rehabbing a torn ACL.

“I’m here with a smile,’’ Shumpert said. “I’m not here with angry eyes. I can get hurt working out by myself in the gym. I’m not thinking about me getting hurt. The worst has already happened to me. I don’ think God has it out for me (again). I’ll be alright.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10242
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Berman suggesting that Leslie might get the 3 and Tyler the 4...if Jordan ain't starting, that leaves the either Eloy Vargas or my personal choice AJ Matthews
 4 years ago '11        #10243
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i like what im hearing with this tyrus thomas talk. young athletic big with fairly young legs + experience. im all for it.
 4 years ago '04        #10244
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Toure' Murry > Baby Smitty
 4 years ago '04        #10245
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Berman

LAS VEGAS – Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni said today the decision to amnesty Metta World Peace was purely financial and he wanted to keep the defensive small forward from Queensbridge.

The Knicks have targeted World Peace, who has to clear through amnesty waivers for the Knicks to have a shot at him. The 48-hour process began tonight at 5 p.m. as 11 under-the-cap teams are allowed to make bids.

“Obviously it’s a byproduct of the CBA,’’ D’Antoni told The Post today at the Las Vegas summer league at UNLV. “As a person and player, I couldn’t find anyone better. He’s great. I enjoyed coaching him. I hope he finds something great. He deserves it. It’s not the coaches. It’s management. They have to manage the cap.’’

D’Antoni, the ex-Knicks pilot, coached World Peace for one season. The Lakers, gearing for a 2014 free-agent windfall, saved $15M in luxury taxes by saying goodbye to Peace.

“He averaged 14 points,’’ D’Antoni said. “He can play. He came back from an injury (meniscus) in 10 days that no human can do and he shouldn’t have. He wanted to help the team.’’

The Lakers coach praised Glen Grunwald’s decision to trade for Italian center Andrea Bargnani, whom D’Antoni had tried to acquire when he was with the Knicks.

D’Antoni, former Italian League star coach and player, has always admired the Italian 7-footer and thought he’d be a good fit in the Knicks frontcourt. D’Antoni is close to former Toronto GM Bryant Colangelo, who drafted Bargnani No. 1 overall in 2006. D’Antoni and Colengelo worked together in Phoenix and think alike.

“I’ve known him for a while,’’ D’Antoni said. “I like what he can do. It’s a real good addition up front with Tyson (Chandler) and Melo, him spacing the floor. That’s his niche. It didn’t work out but we explored the possibility. It wasn’t possible at the time.’’

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The Knicks were beaten, 77-72, in their first summer-league game by New Orleans despite 13 points from rookie Tim Hardaway Jr.

Hardaway scored 8 of his points in the opening six minutes but cooled off in the second half, shooting 1 of 5. He finished 4 of 12 but looked comfortable and aggressive. Iman Shumpert, in an experimental start at point guard alongside Hardaway, notched just 2 points, missing all 5 of his shots. He had 4 a.ssists and 4 turnovers.
 4 years ago '04        #10246
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Tommy Dee

There were some positives to take away from this first game starting with the strong start of first round pick Tim Hardaway, JR. Hardaway showed pretty effortless scoring prowess early and showed a variety of ways to put the ball in the basket. He struggled with shot selection as the team as a whole struggled in the second half, but this kid is an NBA caliber scorer.

With the Knicks desperate for a big body who can rebound, it was great to see Jeremy Tyler yank down 11 boards including 5 on the offensive end. Tyler, the former high school star who traveled overseas to play professionally before being drafted to the NBA, is still incredibly raw offensively but you have to really like his activeness. I think he’s someone the Knicks have to continue to take a long look at.

Who is Eloy Vargas? A three year player at Kentucky who left after the 11-12 season, Vargas showed decent range, but didn’t help much on the boards.

I was impressed with C.J. Leslie’s ability to attack the basket off the bounce. He showed some athleticism but you’d like to see better shot selection and more production from the super-talented swingman. Hopefully at his size he isn’t in NBA forward purgatory that finds him in between positions and not effective at either the 3 or the 4.

Toure’ Murray did his best Nate Robinson instant offense impersonation, no? Four FGs in 12 minutes including a 3 pointer was very impressive. Looking forward to seeing more of the former Wichita State star.

I know it was just one summer league game but I was disappointed by Iman Shumpert’s effort yesterday. I thought he could have shown more leadership and take over ability. He was completely outplayed by Austin Rivers all game long. Obviously, you’d like to see Shump get better handling the ball and attacking the basket and job number 1 for him is to stay healthy. But sooner or later the knee injury can no longer be viewed as a crutch and we’re going to have to see much more consistency offensively. I’d like to see him prove, like Rivers, that he is by far one of the best players on the floor.

I was annoyed at the rotation in thinking that the coaching staff went too early to the second unit in the first half, but that’s being nitpicky.

All in all it wasn’t pretty but there were some good signs. Looking forward to the next game tomorrow at 4.
 4 years ago '04        #10247
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Berman

LAS VEGAS — It was a good omen. Rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. banged in his first shot in a Knicks uniform, a tough 18-footer from the right baseline in the opening seconds of his first summer league game.

Minutes later, newly minted point guard Iman Shumpert tossed an alley-oop Hardaway threw down.

A fearless Hardaway racked up eight points in the first six minutes of his debut Friday at UNLV’s Cox Pavilion, showing glimpses of why the Knicks brass was thrilled he was available in the draft at No. 24.

Though Hardaway tailed off in the second half, he finished with 13 points on 4-of-12 shooting, was 4-of-5 from the free-throw line and had five rebounds and three a.ssists in the Knicks’ 77-72 loss to the Pelicans.

The rookie displayed enough tenacious knowhow to envision a Shumpert-Hardaway backcourt at the Garden for years to come.

Shumpert started at point guard as the Knicks experiment whether he will play there occasionally, as he did as a rookie and at Georgia Tech.

“We got great chemistry going,’’ said Hardaway, whose father, Tim Sr., was on hand. “We’re doing a great job reading and playing off each other. It’s great having a veteran to get through the process.’’

Hardaway, out of Michigan, had no jitters, playing in front of the 2,400 fans.

“I was very comfortable,’’ he said. “The shots in the second half were there. I just need to knock them down. I’ll get better as this continues. I played in front of 75,000 people [in Indianapolis in the NCAA championship game ] not many months ago. No big deal.

“It was a good showing. I need to be a lot better. I know that. It’s the first game, playing with guys for the first time for three days.’’

Shumpert had a tough day, though his goal was to spotlight Hardaway. Shumpert was 0-for-5 with four a.ssists and four turnovers. A source said Shumpert might not play another summer league game.

“They encouraged me to come out here and make sure I worked on point guard and facilitate more,’’ he said.

Shumpert beamed when talking about Hardaway.

“I love the way he plays,” Shumpert said. “He knows how to play in a system. He plays both sides of the ball. Anytime you tell him of a problem, he applies it right there.’’

Summer league head coach Jim Todd started Shumpert, Hardaway and C.J. Leslie — the young trio of the future. Leslie fell out of the draft and the Knicks signed him to a two-year deal — the first year guaranteed. Leslie shot just 2-of-9 for seven points, and was admittedly rusty. but showed athleticism in moving beautifully up and down the court, once scoring in transition off a Hardaway feed.

“It was the first time I played 5-on-5 in a while,’’ said Leslie, who injured his hip during pre-draft workouts and shut it down. “I played all right.’’

Point guard Chris Smith, J.R. Smith’s brother, came off the bench to score nine points but combo guard Toure Murry, whom the Knicks are considering for camp after winning a D-League title with Rio Grande, looked solid. He was 4-of-6 for 11 points in 12 minutes.
 4 years ago '04        #10248
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Tommy Dee

I’ve been very critical of Iman Shumpert over his first two seasons as a Knick and I’m fully comfortable in saying he was my favorite player during the playoffs last year with his intensity and quick scoring ability at times. His put back dunk against the Pacers was legendary as was his performance in the 3rd quarter of game 6. He was exceptional at times against Boston.

But with the great moments come increased expectations and with expectations there must comes criticism.

Shumpert is an easy player to root for. He’s engaging and he plays hard during the regular season. He’s shown flashes that he can help offensively, but as he moves forward there are many questions that just need to be asked.

Forget yesterday. I’m bothered that he allowed Austin Rivers to literally tear him up on both sides of the floor and that I hoped he had more natural ability with the ball in making decisions, but let’s a.ssume he will be better in the next few games.

What’s his real position? We know it’s not the 3, because his agents reportedly aren’t cool with the lack of touches even though it makes him more “efficient” and that gets metric folks all giddy. I think in an ideal world fans would just a.ssume the guy be a 25 minute a night, cheap player who doesn’t need to be near the ball. Sort of what we’ve seen when he’s healthy.

Speaking of that, the knee thing is no longer a crutch. Not after what we saw in the playoffs. Now it’s about confidences and improving skills. People used that as an excuse often, and that was fine, but heading into this year I hope to hear it less and less. The guy made exceptional plays and played exceptionally hard. He’s almost 100%.

Anyway, the problem with that fan thinking is that Shumpert and his camp want more minutes, and with more minutes come more opportunity to put the ball in the basket. And let’s face it, his handle is weak, he’s not a upper echelon shooter and he’s really not that great of a finisher off the dribble. You saw Tim Hardaway Jr. smoothly come in and score in a variety of ways: catch and shoot, mid range pull, above the rim and off the bounce for an and one. That’s natural scoring ability and that ability isn’t possessed by Shumpert. He’s learned to catch and shoot and effectively make threes and that would be great, but will it satisfy him and his ability to develop?

The fact is, and it’s why he’s getting reps in the summer, he NEEDS to develop with the ball and he NEEDS to be able to find ways to score. It’s a critical thing that the Knicks need from him EVERY game, not just quarters here and there. The talent is there and I was very disappointed with his game yesterday. He should be their go to guy when they needed hoops and they needed them often down the stretch.

It’s going to be interesting to see the progression of Shumpert’s game as his contract approaches and how he improves offensively. He’s not going to be the wonder kid defensive wiz who plays 20-25 minutes a night forever. At some point he’s going to have to learn to score with the ball not off of it.

All fair criticisms.
 4 years ago '04        #10249
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NYK have spoken to both Nate The Greats and Dalembert agents
 4 years ago '04        #10250
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 Born_Loser said:
NYK have spoken to both Nate The Greats and Dalembert agents
grab nate he wants back in ny
 4 years ago '05        #10251
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Yall better be talkin about nate wolters or mcmillan...sh*t even nate dogg
 4 years ago '07        #10252
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Yall better be talkin about nate wolters or mcmillan...sh*t even nate dogg
 4 years ago '08        #10253
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Three hours until the Metta World Peace deadline for unrestricted free agency. No team has informed Peace that they've made a claim yet.

@dolphinrxpe my guess is that he ends up here if he clears waivers


 4 years ago '05        #10254
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Ron crazy
 4 years ago '04        #10255
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Berman

LAS VEGAS — Metta World Peace is free to come home — 14 years later.

World Peace is a free agent after clearing amnesty waivers last night, and the Knicks officially expressed interest to the agents of the former Ron Artest at the Las Vegas Summer League.

The Knicks are trying to schedule a meeting with World Peace in Las Vegas today or tomorrow. Agent Marc Cornstein said nothing is set in stone on the meeting yet, but said there’s “mutual interest.’’

World Peace, when asked if he’s coming to Vegas to sit down with the Knicks, responded via text message to The Post, “No, going to watch Floyd Mayweather train.”

Cornstein planned to speak with World Peace last night to go over his options.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson acknowledged the club likes what the Queensbridge product can bring.

“I like his skill set a lot,’’ Woodson said. “A lot of teams liked his skill set over the years. He does a little bit of everything.’’

According to a source, at least four teams have called to inquire about the 33-year-old, but the Knicks look to be the favorites, though World Peace hasn’t ruled out playing in China.

“It was a nail-biter and now he is in control of his destiny,’’ World Peace’s other New York-based agent, Doug Davis, told The Post. “We’re not rushing it. We want him to make a smart decision and take all the options in consideration and do what’s best for him. He’s very excited he’s in position to choose his own destiny.’’

World Peace told Yahoo! Sports he wants “to do something unique and fun.

“China has over a billion people. It’s fun,” he said. “I want to be adventurous. I’ve been thinking about it.”

Cornstein sat with Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald at UNLV’s Cox Pavilion, and the two had a brief conversation.

World Peace said a couple of days ago he was over his dream of playing with the Knicks — who passed on him in the 1999 draft — and had wanted to play with them in his prime, but no longer. Davis then downplayed those remarks as World Peace being World Peace. The Knicks have the $1.7 million remainder of their mid-level and the veterans’ minimum of $1.4 million to offer World Peace.

“There’s no reason not to consider New York if there’s strong interest,’’ Davis said.

Eleven under-the-cap teams passed on making bids for World Peace, but Davis said he still expects to hear from some of them.

“Ideally, teams showed respect so he can determine his own future,’’ Davis said.

Artest Sr. told The Post he’s praying the Knicks get it done. The Clippers also are believed in the mix.

“I’m hoping he comes home,’’ Artest Sr. said last night. “It’s New York. It’s home. He wanted to play here for a very long time. He doesn’t have to win a championship here but playing for the Knicks, that’s good enough for me.’’

Woodson has no qualms about coaching the mercurial World Peace, who has had his share of suspensions. Woodson has done a good job reining in J.R. Smith, also considered a league renegade.

“I can coach any player,’’ Woodson said. “I’ve coached guys from 18 years old and built a team in Atlanta. That’s tough for a first-time coach. I don’t think there’s a player who I can’t coach if he’s willing to be coached.

“It’s a matter of pushing the right buttons. If anybody comes to this team, they’ve got to understand it’s all about team and not about individuals here. It’s about the New York franchise trying to win an NBA title.”

If he signs, World Peace could start at small forward with Carmelo Anthony remaining at power forward. However, Woodson said he will consider starting Andrea Bargnani at power forward and shifting Anthony to the three.

“We could — it could be different this year,’’ Woodson said. “Bargnani brings a different dimension to our team. He can do a little bit of everything. I got to get him up to speed defensively. “ Just like Melo [Anthony] is a nightmare for people at the four, [Bargnani’s] a nightmare for players at the four and five. I’ve got to get him acclimated and comfortable and feeling good about himself.”
 4 years ago '04        #10256
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It's official, Goonin & Coonin is not a lifestyle...




















It's a way of life















WE fu*kING IN HERE

Welcome Home Ronald
 4 years ago '05        #10257
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Word up @born.
Elton brand gay. Who choose gays in ATL over a competing team.
Nobody on Knicks summer league team is impressing me.
Idk b....thj might have to get around some real players b
 4 years ago '04        #10258
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Berman

LAS VEGAS — On the day the Knicks added Metta World Peace, they lost J.R. Smith — possibly for all of training camp and the first two weeks of the regular season.

Four days after announcing his new four-year, $24.7 million package, Smith underwent surgery yesterday in New York to repair a patellar tendon and a torn meniscus, both in his left knee, putting him out three to four months.

The Knicks said Smith had two chronic injuries that gradually worsened. According to a league source, the tendon was chipped.

Smith, who will be 28 in September, certainly won’t be ready for Day 1 of training camp in early October and could miss the season opener later that month.

The Knicks knew about the issue when the season ended and knew Smith would need surgery. Earl Smith, J.R.’s father, claimed the surgery was timed for mid-July during summer league and it had no bearing on his son hiding his injury during free agency.

A source said teams that inquired about Smith were made aware of his impending surgery. The Knicks had no major qualms about offering him a four-year deal because they considered it below market value and the maximum they were allowed to offer under Early Bird Rights.

The Post reported exclusively on May 23 that Smith played during the Pacers series with an undisclosed left knee injury, with a source saying it was swollen with fluid buildup. The source said at the time, “He shouldn’t have even been playing.’’

Earl Smith said the timing of the surgery was due to it being most convenient for the Knicks’ medical and training staffs, which were to return to Las Vegas so there would be no lapse in his son’s rehab. If part of the preseason would be sacrificed, so be it.

“That was the plan all along,” the elder Smith said.

However, only one Knicks trainer is in Las Vegas, along with team medical director Dr. Lisa Callahan, so the timing still seems odd.

Earl Smith said he expects his son to be back for the season opener.

“Knowing J.R., he will be,’’ Earl Smith said. “It’s a great possibility.’’

Smith’s knee issue helps explain his downturn in the playoffs as the fluid likely was caused by the wear and tear of his cartilage. The Post reported Smith had played with varying degrees of knee pain since March, but he did not miss a single game because of injury. He played 80 of 82 games, resting the final two with the rest of the starters.

According to a source, Dr. Callahan told Smith he had the option of having surgery in March, but he opted to play through it.

Earl Smith said his son was greatly affected by the injury — not by rumored postseason partying.

“His knee was swollen in the playoffs,’’ the elder Smith said. “He didn’t have the lift on his jumper. You can tell something was wrong. They had him keeping late nights.’’

The NBA’s Sixth Man Award winner averaged 22 points on 48 percent shooting in the regular season’s final month, but shot 33 percent in the playoffs. The Post reported in late May that Smith would have a drainage procedure on his knee.

Ironically, Chris Smith, J.R.’s younger brother who is playing for the Knicks’ summer league team, is coming off a torn patellar tendon. Chris’ injury was more severe, according to a source.

* Knicks rookie shooting guard Tim Hardaway Jr., wearing a black brace on the bench, sat out yesterday’s loss to the Bobcats because of his sprained left wrist and may be done for the rest of the summer league schedule. He sprained the wrist late in the first quarter against the Wizards and sat out the rest of the game. Hardaway hopes to play when the Knicks resume action either tomorrow or Thursday in the playoff round.

“Doctors said not to play, I chose not to play and not risk anything,’’ Hardaway said. “I don’t know [about the next game]. It’s up to the doctors what I can do. We’ll be in therapy [today], see how it goes. I really want to get back out there. If it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen.’’
 4 years ago '08        #10259
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Lol season still months away and we dealing with injuries already
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Berman

LAS VEGAS — Knicks rookie combo forward C.J. Leslie believes the addition of Metta World Peace will help his transition. Leslie scored 15 points — 6-of-15 from the field — in yesterday’s 84-71 summer-league loss to the Bobcats.

Leslie, who fell out of the draft in a stunner, plays roughly the same position of the former Ron Artest. Leslie feels he’ll bring “mentorship and a lot of leadership’’ to the club.

“I think he’s a better teammate than he is on the court at this stage,’’ Leslie told The Post. “I heard a lot about him from other players on the Lakers. He’s a good teammate. I’m looking forward to it.

“He’s been through this game and knows a lot,’’ Leslie added. “He’s going to play hard for us. You don’t have to question that. He’s a big, strong body down low.’’

The Knicks had Leslie pegged as a late first-rounder and feel they got two first-round players out of the draft, in the NC State product and Tim Hardaway Jr., who missed yesterday’s game with a sprained wrist.
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