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 3 years ago '07        #9981
I Am The Truth 1 heat pts
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 Born_Loser said:
i'm still at NYK for trading Kostas
why? we needed him to solidfy the Felton trade... without Ray Ray we don't get the #2 seed. Plus I rather us try to buy a 2nd round pick or still try to trade up for the #13 pick
 3 years ago '04        #9982
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 I Am The Truth said:
why? we needed him to solidfy the Felton trade... without Ray Ray we don't get the #2 seed. Plus I rather us try to buy a 2nd round pick or still try to trade up for the #13 pick
True but I just wanted to see if he game translated well cause he could have been a good and CHEAP piece... If it didn't, he was cheap to move or buyout
 3 years ago '05        #9983
s1eepyboy 10 heat pts10
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2 more daysssss




  3 - 1 STRK: 2 w in a row WIN PCT: 75% 121 (-7) 
  Career: | Aug 13: 94-60, Rank #50 | Aug 12: 34-21, Rank #101 | Aug 11: 41-32, Rank #129 | Aug 10: 89-44, Rank #86 *
 3 years ago '07        #9984
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cmon Oladipo or MCW (in a pipe dream)... but on the reals... Dieng, Larkin, Franklin, Crabbe, Schroeder, Bullock... let's go, we can't lose this time around
 3 years ago '05        #9985
s1eepyboy 10 heat pts10
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 I Am The Truth said:
cmon Oladipo or MCW (in a pipe dream)... but on the reals... Dieng, Larkin, Franklin, Crabbe, Schroeder, Bullock... let's go, we can't lose this time around
U left out Nate wolters




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  Career: | Aug 13: 94-60, Rank #50 | Aug 12: 34-21, Rank #101 | Aug 11: 41-32, Rank #129 | Aug 10: 89-44, Rank #86 *
 3 years ago '04        #9986
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if Larkin is still available, a lot of GM's need to be fired
 3 years ago '04        #9987
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Ricky Ledo is name i keep reading and hearing about...seems like if we do acquire a 2nd rounder (i'm hoping we can buy 2) it's between Ledo & Glen Rice, Jr.

i already said what my 2nd round hopefuls are, Goodwin and Leslie (in that order) but thoughts?
 3 years ago '05        #9988
s1eepyboy 10 heat pts10
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Ledo nice idk if glen rice jr gon be available by then




  3 - 1 STRK: 2 w in a row WIN PCT: 75% 121 (-7) 
  Career: | Aug 13: 94-60, Rank #50 | Aug 12: 34-21, Rank #101 | Aug 11: 41-32, Rank #129 | Aug 10: 89-44, Rank #86 *
 3 years ago '11        #9989
King Henry 522 heat pts522
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If we get Ledo with a 2nd round pick

He's a top 10-15 talent in this draft easily
 3 years ago '04        #9990
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im officially adding Tony Mitchell to my list of hopefuls. i'll man up and say i ignored his sh*t but after always reading ppl online suggest him i had to do some research and i feel like a jackass for not giving him a look earlier
 3 years ago '05        #9991
s1eepyboy 10 heat pts10
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one more dayyyy




  3 - 1 STRK: 2 w in a row WIN PCT: 75% 121 (-7) 
  Career: | Aug 13: 94-60, Rank #50 | Aug 12: 34-21, Rank #101 | Aug 11: 41-32, Rank #129 | Aug 10: 89-44, Rank #86 *
 3 years ago '06        #9992
lmnop 122 heat pts122
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 3 years ago '07        #9993
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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Plumlee, Dieng, Canaan or anybody that can shoot or grab rebounds

No Euros
 3 years ago '04        #9994
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Berman

There are the safe choices of Michigan guard Tim Hardaway Jr., Cal guard Allen Crabbe and North Carolina small forward Reggie Bullock — if they fall to the 24th pick.

Then there’s the riskier selections — shooting guard Ricky Ledo, who didn’t play a college game, and combo forward Tony Mitchell, who struggled last season at small-school North Texas but is regarded as the “best athlete in the draft.’’ They may be too green to make an impact in the 2013-14 season, but have great upside for the future.

But is the future now? Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald faces a monumental decision tonight on draft night because of a fluid roster that could conceivably lose three key free agents — J.R. Smith, Chris Copeland and Pablo Prigioni.

The buzzword in the Knicks’ war room has been “perimeter help’’ with the organization’s decision to make Carmelo Anthony the power forward of the future.

As much as the Knicks need a backup point guard with Jason Kidd’s retirement and Prigioni’s uncertain status, Grunwald may need to plug a hole tonight with the 24th pick at the small-forward position. (Iman Shumpert started there last season when the Knicks went with two point guards.)

When asked about the Knicks’ standing, ESPN draft analyst Jay Bilas said, “There are a lot of good values down into the 20s. I don’t subscribe [to the theory] this is a weak draft.’’

James Dolan’s club is focused on competing for a championship next year. People with knowledge of the situation feel the club needs extra scoring punch at the perimeter after folding in the playoffs and can address in free agency its big-man issues that surfaced versus the Pacers.

The lack of point guards (Shane Larkin likely will be gone, Isaiah Canaan not a good enough playmaker) in the 24-range may lead the Knicks to take a shooting guard/small forward. South Dakota State’s play-making Nate Wolters is the one point guard of intrigue who should be on the board, but he would be a defensive liability.

Hardaway Jr., Bullock and Crabbe are sound picks and the Knicks like all three. Hardaway, whose father played 13 seasons in the NBA, is a can’t-miss pro after leading Michigan to the NCAA title game and the Knicks need to improve their role-playing core.

“Hardaway already has an NBA professional mentality,’’ ESPN’s Fran Fraschilla said. “He has a professional mindset, a high-character kid and well-coached at Michigan. The ceiling, though, is not great. I don’t see an All-Star career. A long-time rotation guy, very good shooter, not a great passer. But he’s solid and low risk.’’

Do the Knicks need to take a chance, considering the Heat, Bulls and Pacers may be a step ahead of them in the East? If they do, meet Ledo, the 6-foot-6 combo guard who never played a game at Providence because of academic issues. Ledo said his best workout was with the Knicks and he’s heading to Brooklyn’s Barclays Center tonight for the festivities.

“He shot the you-know-what out of the ball and he also passed well,’’ his agent Seth Cohen said of the Knicks workout. “If he played a few games in college, he’d be in the lottery. I think what he showed the Knicks is he could play some point guard, too.’’

The other intriguing option is Mitchell, a 6-foot-9 small forward/power forward who could fit well with Anthony as a forward tandem, except he’s not a traditional scorer in any sense. A report on Hoopsworld.com said if he drops to 24, the Knicks are tempted.

“I’m sure I can bring excitement with my athleticism, just dunking the ball, blocking the shots, rebounding, defending,’’ Mitchell said after his Knicks workout.

Bullock is a strong 3-point shooter and decent defender. Crabbe is one of the top marksmen in the draft, but not a Mike Woodson-like defender.

“From the coaches I talked to, he played defense in a tuxedo,’’ Fraschilla said of Crabbe.

Grunwald won’t be in a tuxedo tonight, but he will have all the pressure squarely on him.
 3 years ago '04        #9995
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getting my Spongebob on for the draft

I'M READY, I'M READY, I'M READY!!!
 3 years ago '04        #9996
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Hahn

Boo who?

Let's face it, you're not always right. In 2011, you booed Iman Shumpert because you wanted Chris Singleton. You wouldn't make that swap today.

And in 2003, you cheered for Maciej Lampe when the Knicks used a second round pick on the Polish teen. That was a year that was loaded with second round prospects, but the Knicks went with Lampe over these second round finds: Mo Williams, Steve Blake, Kyle Korver, Zaza Pachulia, Keith Bogans, Matt Bonner, James Jones and Jason Kapono.

Yes, every single one of them were available when the Knicks took Lampe. This is probably not a good time to remind you that the Knicks actually had two second rounders that night. But you're not allowed to boo in hindsight. You cheered, we have video proof. Commence commiseration.

Other Greatest Misses:

1986: Kenny Walker
Available: Roy Tarpley, Ron Harper, John Salley, Dell Curry, Mark Price and Jeff Hornacek (Note: Team had Patrick Ewing and Bill Cartwright, so Arvydas Sabonis was not a need).

1988: Rod Strickland
Available: Dan Majerle, Brian Shaw, Grant Long, Steve Kerr, Anthony Mason (Note: Strickland was by far a better talent, but not a good fit with Mark Jackson already there).

1990: Jerrod Mustaf
Available: Dee Brown, Jayson Williams

1991: Greg Anthony
Available: Dale Davis

1992: Hubert Davis
Available: Latrell Sprewell

1997: John Thomas
Available: Stephen Jackson

1998: DeMarco Johnson (2nd Rd)
Available: Rafer Alson, Cuttino Mobley

1999: Frederic Weis
Available: Duh.

2002: Nene (traded for Antonio McDyess)
Available: Amar'e Stoudemire, Caron Butler, Tayshaun Prince

2006: Renaldo Balkman
Available: Rajon Rondo, Kyle Lowry

2009: Jordan Hill
Available: Ty Lawson, Jrue Holiday, Jeff Teague, DeMar DeRozan, Brandon Jennings, Earl Clark, Taj Gibson, Danny Green, Chase Budinger

What will it be tonight at No. 24? Boos or Cheers?

More importantly, years from now when we look back, which will be the correct reaction?
 3 years ago '04        #9997
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i wanted Earl Clark that year
 3 years ago '05        #9998
s1eepyboy 10 heat pts10
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Yeah I don't like Canaan from what I've seen rather takea chance on Nate wolters he lookin like he might slip to the second round.
Ricky ledo should be a steal n wolters too. Take tony Mitchell if he's available or Tim hard away jr




  3 - 1 STRK: 2 w in a row WIN PCT: 75% 121 (-7) 
  Career: | Aug 13: 94-60, Rank #50 | Aug 12: 34-21, Rank #101 | Aug 11: 41-32, Rank #129 | Aug 10: 89-44, Rank #86 *
 3 years ago '04        #9999
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only thing that will ruin my night would be taking Glen, Jr at 24
another thing that can ruin it is we only end up with the one pick we have, especially with the talent that will likely be available if these "experts" are somewhat correct
 3 years ago '04        #10000
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ultimate pipe dream...Amar'e for Aldridge & Jefferies (to make the numbers work)
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