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 4 years ago '04        #9661
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MARC BERMAN

The old, decrepit Knicks have become a caricature of themselves.

The glow of their lone West Coast victory and likely return of Carmelo Anthony tonight was dimmed by yesterday’s grim MRI exam results for centers Tyson Chandler and Kurt Thomas.

The league’s oldest team could not savor even a few hours of good feeling without more evidence the franchise is as stable as a house of cards with the postseason a month away. The team’s medical director, Dr. Lisa Callahan, has become more vital to the club’s playoff hopes than coach Mike Woodson.

Thomas, just one day after being awarded the game ball for his gritty efforts in Monday’s victory in Utah, had his MRI reveal what the club termed an acute stress reaction surrounding a chronic stress fracture in his right foot. He will be out two to four weeks, perhaps returning in time for the playoffs, perhaps not at all. So much for having just a bone spur — the diagnosis before the game.

Thomas, the league’s oldest player at 40, had been starting for Chandler at center. The Knicks’ big-man situation is in tatters, with Kenyon Martin to start in the pivot tonight at the Garden against the Magic. Marcus Camby is the only other healthy big man on the roster.

The Knicks soon may make a hard decision on cutting either Thomas or Rasheed Wallace, who had foot surgery and seems a long shot to make it back. That would open up a roster spot for a big man, probably one out of the D-League.

The Knicks will stand pat for now and see how the healing goes with Thomas and Wallace, who is to have stitches taken out of his foot this week. The Knicks still believe Amar’e Stoudemire, who had knee surgery nine days ago, can make it back for the playoffs.

Thomas had been playing for several years with a stress fracture and now it has been re-aggravated. Dr. Anish Kadakia, a leading orthopedic foot surgeon at Northwestern Hospital, told The Post because this is not a new stress fracture, it can get better within a month.

“If this is an acute issue and it’s just inflammation around the old stress fracture, it’s not an unreasonable thing to calm down in two to four weeks,” Dr. Kadakia said. “On the other side of the coin, if the old stress fracture has really gotten worse and become unstable, it may not get better, to the point he’ll need surgery. Since he’s had it for years, chances are more likely than not he can play in the short term.’’

There also is some concern for Jason Kidd, who banged his wrist in the third quarter in Utah and needed X-rays after the game that were negative. He walked out of the arena with ice wrapped around his hand and Dr. Callahan by his side.

In the giddy aftermath of the Utah win, in which Thomas played sensational, hard-nosed post defense for 26 minutes, Woodson said, “All the old guys have done their part. We have to get Melo and Tyson back in gear and get them going again and keep this thing going. We have a lot of basketball left.’’

Chandler has been bugged by a sore neck since January, but this was the first time the Knicks felt an MRI was warranted. When Chandler tumbled in Denver last week, he bruised his knee and reaggravated his neck.

According to Dr. Michael Mizhiritsky, a leading spine specialist affiliated with Lenox Hill Hospital, Chandler’s diagnosis may not be serious if he only is experiencing neck stiffness and not a tingling sensation or weakness in his arm. If Chandler is experiencing those extra symptoms, the bulging disk could be a more serious issue down the road. Dr. Mizhiritsky said a bulging disk can always worsen, but treatment including rest and anti-inflammatory medication should do the trick.

At least there are promising developments regarding Anthony. He was upbeat after having his knee drained last Thursday, when, as first reported by The Post, no sign of long-term cartilage damage was discovered. Anthony said Monday he hoped to make his return tonight.

Anthony has missed six of the past eight games, including the last three of the West Coast trip, and figures to be rusty. Anthony said Monday he still needed to develop more strength in the right knee, but felt the joint was “night and day’’ without the fluid. Anthony has been injury-prone in his two-plus seasons with the Knicks, and Woodson is crossing his fingers the knee issue does not resurface.

“Our confidence is still there,’’ Anthony said. “We’re third in the Eastern Conference. We’re trying to get everyone back healthy. Tyson, myself, trying to get everyone healthy to make this run.”
 4 years ago '05        #9662
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I still believe
 4 years ago '04        #9663
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Starting 5 for tonight

Kenyon, Melo, Shumpert, Pablo, Felton
 4 years ago '05        #9664
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woodson never stops trolling, does he
 4 years ago '04        #9665
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tonights lineup

Felly Fel
P-Body n*ggas
Shump
Melo
ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS!


with a win tonight, NYK is playoff bound
 4 years ago '08        #9666
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Kmart been a bless in the sky still suprised that we or no other team signed him earlier
 4 years ago '04        #9667
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Berman

No coach has faced more injuries to his club than Mike Woodson — not surprising since some Knicks have gray beards longer than Moses’.

And now Woodson has to make one last big decision before entering the promised land of the playoffs.

With center Tyson Chandler potentially returning tomorrow in Boston, is Woodson actually going to bench the shockingly dominant Kenyon Martin?

On Friday, Woodson said the primary goal now is to set a starting lineup and tight rotation for the playoffs in these final weeks, with 14 games left. That process begins with Chandler’s return as starting center. Chandler is close to returning from his bulging disk in his spine. The Boston game hits the one-week time frame the Knicks provided.
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KENYON MARTIN

Woodson said his intentions are to send Martin back to the bench — a shortsighted move considering Martin’s energy, grit, rebounds and garbage buckets in the paint are heavily responsible for the Knicks’ four-game winning streak. The Kenyon-Carmelo Anthony Show has looked dandy.

“Guys seem like they are starting to find their groove right now,’’ Anthony said. “Individually and as a team, it seems we’re starting to get our confidence. Slowly but surely, we’re starting to get guys back in the lineup. We’re winning games, we’re playing extremely well, we’re playing very confidently and we’re having fun out there. It seems like we’re starting to get healthy at the right time.... This is the perfect time.”

It is the perfect time to keep Martin where he is — setting the game’s tone. The Knicks are playing their best defense since December with Martin in the starting lineupas in Portland when Chandler went down with knee and neck issues.

Woodson has a chance now to go traditional tomorrow for the first time this roller-coaster season, give the team the frontcourt size and grit needed to topple Miami. As Indiana president Donnie Walsh said after the All-Star break, only size beats Miami, not small ball.

Woodson can shift Martin to power forward, slide Anthony back to his normal spot at small forward and boast a sensible backcourt of point guard Raymond Felton and shooting guard Iman Shumpert.

It makes for a sensational defensive unit — Woodson’s foundation. And it gives Shumpert more freedom to get involved in the offense because he seems ready now. Shumpert has made several hints he has been uncomfortable playing small forward. Against Miami in their potential playoff showdown, Woodson will need Shumpert to defend Dwyane Wade.

In Woodson’s latest version of the 2012-13 Knicks, he appears bent on keeping Argentine point guard Pablo Prigioni in the lineup over Martin. Prigioni has done admirably pressuring the ball alongside Felton as part of Woodson’s three-guard alignment, but it doesn’t make sense versus Miami.

Woodson said late Saturday night after the Knicks routed Toronto again that having Chandler and Martin as a tandem would be redundant. Redundant?

Ask the Nets how redundant it was having Martin as starting power forward during two trips to the Finals. Yes, Martin, with fresher legs than his opponents after sitting October, November, December, January and most of February, is playing like that Net demon now, playing as hungry as anyone other than LeBron James.

If the Knicks are going to shock the world and upend Miami, they will need this Kenyon renaissance to rage on.

“Tyson does the same thing [as Kenyon],’’ Woodson said. “They’re pretty similar as pick-and-roll guys. Both are defensive-minded guys. Both can block shots. Both finish around the rim. Bringing Kenyon off [the bench], it becomes a double threat and we don’t lose a lot.’’

Perhaps the issue is Woodson’s reluctance moving Anthony from the 4 because he has been effective, but Melo can play the 4 when Martin is out. One unspoken reason why Woodson kept Anthony as starting power forward was it ensured Amar’e Stoudemire stayed on the bench. Hence, the two of them would not be on the court together as much.

Stoudemire, after a second knee debridement surgery, is out of the picture now. Woodson said he is not counting on Stoudemire, Rasheed Wallace or Kurt Thomas despite their official timetables. Even if one of them makes it back for the playoffs, they won’t be in any condition or top form to engage in a playoff war.

So now the Knicks must ride the 35-year-old Martin.

“My knees have not been an issue for a few years,’’ Martin said. “Not playing basketball for a while, I don’t have the wear and tear. I was getting my legs ready and I want to stay that way. I want people to know I can still play. I just don’t want this to be it.’’

The Knicks will need magic to beat Miami later this spring. They will need Martin magic.
 4 years ago '04        #9668
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Alan Hahn

Upon further review, Woodson admits Melo-Kenyon-Tyson frontcourt may be beneficial in certain matchups.

"It just depends," Woodson said. "If you get into a [playoff] series with Indiana or Chicago, you have to have to play Melo at some three and maybe start him at the three, based on the fact that they're big."

The Bulls are a potential first-round opponent and they play a very big frontline -- Joakim Noah, Carlos Boozer and Luol Deng -- that has given the Knicks fits this season. Including Martin with Chandler and moving Melo to the wing -- Deng would guard him regardless -- would be a better matchup.

Chandler, for one, likes the idea of having Martin as his wingman in the paint.

"I can't wait to get out there and play along side of him," he said.

But along with the fact that the Knicks have had success with Melo at the power forward spot, Woodson also likes the security of bringing Martin off the bench so when Chandler leaves the game for rest (or foul trouble), there is still a strong defensive presence in the paint with Martin as his replacement.

Marcus Camby was signed to be that insurance for Chandler, but he has been dealing with a plantar fascia issue in his left foot throughout the season. His minutes have been limited -- especially in back-to-back situations -- mainly because of this condition. Camby can provide spot minutes, but has yet to prove he can be reliable enough as a true backup center. And with a depleted frontline, this is not the time to test Camby's limits.

When the playoffs arrive, however, Woodson may have more options available to him to spread out the minutes. It all depends on the recovery of three injured bigs, Kurt Thomas (foot), Rasheed Wallace (foot) and Amar'e Stoudemire (knee). Each could become available during the first two rounds.

The Knicks have never had all 15 players fully healthy and available to play in a game this entire season. No better time than April and May to finally make that happen.
 4 years ago '04        #9669
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Tommy Dee speaking TRUFF

"let me get this straight, if the #knicks are poised to make a run at CP3 & can under the CBA and he hasn't committed how is there 0 chance?"
 4 years ago '04        #9670
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Tina Cervasio making her TNT debut tonight since MSG is forcing me to listen to biased a.ss commentary and comments by not airing the game
 4 years ago '04        #9671
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starting 5 tonight is expected to be

Felly Fel
Shump
Melo
ATTENTION K-MART SHOPPERS
Chandler Bing
 4 years ago '04        #9672
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if Chandler can't go, expect the same lineup:

Felton-Prigioni-Shumpert-Anthony-Martin
 4 years ago '04        #9673
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from Felton's official FB page

"Come meet Raymond at the Boost Mobile NBA Game Time Tour this Thursday from 3-5PM in Brooklyn at 550 Nostrand Avenue."
 4 years ago '04        #9674
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from Felton's official FB page

"Come meet Raymond at the Boost Mobile NBA Game Time Tour this Thursday from 3-5PM in Brooklyn at 550 Nostrand Avenue."
 4 years ago '04        #9675
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Berman

BOSTON - Tyson Chandler is a long shot to play Tuesday night in Boston unless he has a breakthrough in the next few hours. Chandler arrived at the arena this morning for the shootaround but then quickly went back to the hotel with trainers for treatment on his neck, unable to participate at TD North Garden.

Chandler has a bulging disk in his cervical spine that the Knicks hoped would take a week for the symptoms to clear up. The week is up and it hasn’t cleared up completely. Chandler still is under some duress and said after Monday's practice he still is worried about having some “spasms’’.

While the Knicks officially called it a “game-time decision,’’ Mike Woodson said he was “questionable’’ and may have tipped his hand when he said “we’re staying the same’’ regarding his starting unit. That has Kenyon Martin as starting center and the club has won four straight games with that alignment. Woodson indicated even if Chandler suits up, it would be for limited minutes, maybe off the bench.

The theory is if Chandler is going to come back, he might as well not do it in a back-to-back situation as the Knicks host Memphis Wednesday night.

“I don’t know if he’s still hurting,’’ Woodson said. “I’m not inside his body. He might play. He might not play. We’ll have to gauge it when he gets to the arena see where he is.’’

“If he tells me he’s ready to go, we’ll play him,’’ Woodson added. “I don’t know how many minutes.’’

Chandler will likely miss his seventh straight game. The Knicks get a break as the Celtics have decided to shut down Kevin Garnett for the next two weeks because of ankle inflammation. Boston GM Danny Ainge said he could play against the Knicks if they wanted him to but will opt to rest him.

The Celtics are content with the seventh seed and aren’t as concerned jockeying for playoff position while the Knicks are trying to win their first Atlantic Division title since 1994 and more importantly save themselves the embarrassment of blowing the division to the first-year Brooklyn Nets.

Asked if Woodson has a different approach to the final weeks before the playoffs, the Knicks coach said, “to me it’s important. They’ve won a title. They’re playoff-tested. We have a lot of guys on this team who are playoff-tested, three guys who have won titles but they haven’t been together that long. It’s going to be interesting to see where we are when we get to the playoffs.

"But until then it’s important we win as many games as we can win and we’re clicking on all cylinders when we step into the playoffs. The only way to do that is you got to continue to win. I know rest is important and we’re beat up right now but hopefully we’ll get a guy or two back at the tail end ... We’ve been playing for something. We’ve been at the top of our division all season and I don’t want to give it away. That is what we set out to do. I’m going to do what it takes to get that done.’’
 4 years ago '10        #9676
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I hope he doesn't play.Even though this game is kinda important its best he stays healthy for the playoffs
 4 years ago '04        #9677
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 Blkboipurp said:
I hope he doesn't play.Even though this game is kinda important its best he stays healthy for the playoffs
we got a decent lead on Boston...personally, i'd rest him for that reason and like u said, let him get healthy
 4 years ago '04        #9678
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Berman

BOSTON — The South Beach showdown is six days away, but Mike Woodson is hoping the Miami Dream Team enters with a 30-game win streak.

“They’re playing at such a high level, nobody is coming close to beating them,’’ Woodson said before the Knicks’ 100-85 win over the Celtics last night. “It would be nice. Their streak could end. They’re playing two good teams [beforehand]. [But if] they’re undefeated and we go into Miami, hopefully we can be the team to break their streak.’’

The Heat have won 27 straight and have Chicago tonight, New Orleans Friday and San Antonio on Sunday. If the LeBron James juggernaut keeps winning and beats the Knicks Tuesday in Miami, it would be just two away from tying the Lakers’ 1971-72 magical run of 33 straight wins — the NBA record.

The Knicks have won five straight, and if they win out, their streak would be eight heading to South Beach. The Knicks have beaten Miami twice by 20 points this season — once in November, once in December — and blew a 17-point Garden lead last month. Seven times during the 27-game win streak the Heat have rallied from double-digit deficits.
 4 years ago '04        #9679
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Berman

BOSTON — For the Knicks, the news on Tyson Chandler was not good.

The veteran center still wasn’t ready to play last night because of a bulging disk in his cervical spine and is not expected to play tonight against Memphis. Chandler also said he has experienced sensations down into his shoulder.

Chandler returned to practice Monday and thought he had a chance of going last night, but the banging took its toll. A leading spine specialist at Northwestern University Hospital, Dr. Wellington Hsu, told The Post last week a bulging disk is considered much less serious if it is contained to a stiff neck. But the injury is considered more severe if there are sensations into the arm.

“The whole point was to test it and see how it felt [Monday],’’ Chandler said in the visitor’s locker room before the Knicks’ 100-85 win over the Celtics last night at TD North Garden. “Afterwards I knew my body wasn’t ready. Late afternoon. I started to have the same symptoms [Monday] night and this morning. I knew right away I wasn’t quite there. It runs down my neck and shoulder.’’

Chandler missed his seventh straight game. He injured his neck and knee during the Denver game on the West Coast trip two weeks ago in separate collisions.

“Talking to one of the trainers, it’s different from ankle, leg, knee,’’ Chandler said. “Something like that, you feel like if you’re close enough, you just come back. But in this situation, I was close enough [Monday]. You just have to deal with that little pain. But when you can’t move, it’s a little different. It’s not something you’re able to just f!ght through.’’

That’s a bad sign for the Knicks, considering the playoffs are a little more than three weeks away.

“When I’m on the basketball court and playing defense, rebounds and look down and up, that’s my problem right now,’’ Chandler said. “It’s not something I’m really worried about for the long period. But I need a couple of days, let it calm down and do rehab.

“I absolutely have to make sure I’m right. I hope it’s not that long. I don’t foresee it that long. I feel I was close yesterday, but trainers talked about it. I have to be able to really move around and feel good. Whereas [Monday] I felt I was close and close is good enough for me. Let’s try it. And obviously I’m not there.”

* Marcus Camby said he is not on a restriction where he can’t play back-to-back nights because of his season-long plantar fasciitis.

Mike Woodson did not play Camby on Saturday after the backup center played 12 minutes in Toronto Friday and did not play last night.

Woodson said he was saving Camby for tonight against the Grizzlies at the Garden because he needs to be cautious since he’s the only healthy big body after Kenyon Martin.

* Ray Williams’ funeral is today at 11 a.m. in Mount Vernon at Allen Memorial Church of God In Christ Family Life Center. Some Knicks officials are expected to attend.
 4 years ago '04        #9680
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Jared Zwerling


That was Kenyon Martin's message for the Boston Celtics after the New York Knicks' 100-85 victory Tuesday night at the TD Garden.

It was the Knicks' fifth straight win with Martin starting at center in place of the injured Tyson Chandler. During that stretch, K-Mart has averaged 13.2 points, 7 rebounds (3.8 offensive) and one block.

"There were talks and negotiations [with Boston], and they chose not to do it," he said. "It was out of my control, so I'm a Knick now. Everybody upset me; it just wasn't the Celtics."

According to sources, Martin was initially in the market for a mini mid-level deal to play for a contender, but no one was biting. Not even the Knicks could afford to pay that salary. But thanks to a close connection to Mark Warkentien -- the Knicks' director of pro player personnel and former GM of the Denver Nuggets, for whom Martin previously played -- Martin arrived in New York on Feb. 21 on a 10-day contract.

While Martin said he's not playing with a chip on his shoulder, he does have at least one score to settle.

"I'm just here to prove to people that I ain't never lost it," he said.

Whenever Chandler returns, the talk will turn to whether Martin should start. Recently, Mike Woodson has gone with a smaller first five to counter the Knicks' smaller opponents -- for example, the Kevin Garnett-less Celtics on Tuesday night. But considering the Eastern Conference is stacked with bigger front lines, that could be enough convincing to start Martin at power forward alongside Chandler.

A Carmelo Anthony-Martin-Chandler frontcourt would be intimidating on both ends of the floor, and it would further ensure the Knicks play well right out of the gate. Marcus Camby could then sub in for Martin or Chandler. Camby is an underrated passer who could play well with either big.

Moving Melo to the three would likely mean Raymond Felton and Iman Shumpert would start. Therefore, point guard Pablo Prigioni would return to the bench. The key is Shumpert's offense. If he can continue to improve as a facilitator and help the Knicks move the ball well, where Prigioni has been excelling, the first unit should be fine.

Reflecting on the victory in Boston, Martin said the Knicks are starting to play much better together.

"The ball is moving and guys are making plays for one another, and we're defending," he said.
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