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 4 years ago '04        #9621
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Berman

Woodson gave #Knicks and J.R. Smith earful during film sessions this morn regarding the volume of 3-point shots in Miami game. J.R. took 14, made just 3. Woodson loves J.R. but was pissed. “We discussed it at film session,’’ Woodson said. “ Not just J.R. We’ve been struggling to shoot threes. When you’re struggling, you got to put in more gym time. Or you don’t shoot them. When you’re not making it in a ballgame, you got to mix your game up. It was obviously glaring the game he had,’ watching it on tape. I hope he learns from it. It’s all you can do.’
 4 years ago '04        #9622
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Berman

CLEVELAND — Knicks point guard Pablo Prigioni said he is unsure he will seek another NBA contract this summer when he becomes a free agent. Prigioni added it’s still possible he will return to the Spanish League to finish up his distinguished career.

Asked if he wanted to return to the Knicks next season, Prigioni, the oldest rookie in the modern NBA at 35, said he can’t tell and needs a full season to evaluate. But Prigioni told The Post he is not retiring.

“I will play for some team next year — where, I don’t know,’’ Prigioni told The Post. “It could be in the NBA. It could be the Spanish League.’’

“I need to go to the summer, take it by day-by-day and think about it. But I [will] listen to the Knicks.’’

Prigioni had been a steady part of the rotation all season but did not play in two straight games due to Jason Kidd’s demotion to backup point guard. But Prigioni resurfaced last night and played 8:18.

The Knicks feel there’s a good possibility Prigioni will leave, and are considering replacing him via the draft, in which they have a first-round pick. The Knicks will likely select in the early 20’s and feel there are point guards who would be a good fit behind the Raymond Felton-Kidd combo.

Prigioni wanted to keep his options open during negotiations last summer when he jumped to the NBA from the Spanish League.

“They said, ‘Do you want two years or just one year?’ ’’ said Prigioni, who brought his family from Spain to New York. “And I wanted just one year.’’

Prigioni said he hasn’t hit a wall despite never playing more than 70 games in a European season. Prigoni said because he averaged just 13 minutes a game, the amount of games played were no factor.

* None of the starters hit double figures, with Carmelo Anthony playing just 14:15 and scoring six points (1 of 5 from the field). But four players recorded double figures off the bench — Steve Novak (15 points, 4 of 7 on 3-pointers), J.R. Smith (18 points), Amar’e Stoudemire (22 points) and Kidd (12 points).
 4 years ago '04        #9623
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CLEVELAND — Carmelo Anthony went down and Amar’e Stoudemire rose up.

With Anthony aggravating a mysterious, nagging, right-knee injury in the second quarter, Mike Woodson was forced into playing Stoudemire past his 30-minute, team-imposed cap for the first time this season.

It was a desperate move and it worked splendidly. Stoudemire carried the Knicks from 22 points down in the second quarter and powered a thrilling 102-97 victory over the Cavaliers at Quicken Loans Arena, playing a season-high 31:55.

As Anthony sat in the locker room, his immediate fate unknown, Stoudemire bagged 22 points, made 10 of 15 shots and looked like “The $100 Million Man’’ again. It was tied for the Knicks’ second-biggest comeback since 1991-92.
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After Carmelo Anthony left the game in the second quarter with a knee injury, Amar'e Stoudemire emerged with 22 points in a season-high 31:55 of playing time.

“I told you guys, whenever my number’s called I’ll be ready,’’ Stoudemire said in a giddy Knicks locker room. “Tonight I was ready.’’

A somber Anthony claimed the injury is not serious, although the medical staff still can’t determine why he’s been in discomfort for about two weeks. Anthony left the game midway through the second quarter after tripping over himself and landing hard when he tried to receive a Jason Kidd pass.

Melo, 1-of-5 at the time, walked off to the locker room with the club down 21 points with 6:42 left in the half and didn’t return.

Stoudemire came in for Anthony and the Knicks (36-21) exploded on a 10-0 run — the foundation for their comeback.

“When there’s a will, there’s a way,’’ Stoudemire said. “We willed out a win tonight.’’

Anthony said he doesn’t know if he’ll be ready for Detroit tomorrow; he’ll be reevaluated today.

“No, no. It’s definitely not serious,’’ Anthony said.

Anthony said an MRI exam was done two days ago and “came back great.’’ No new MRI is scheduled after manual tests last night revealed no ACL tear.

“I felt before the game I was like dragging my right leg,’’ Anthony said, adding “It’s nothing we can figure out at the moment.’’

Stoudemire looked as healthy as ever and he’s the one on the 30-minute plan because of bad knees. Not last night.

“We went over by a little, oops,’’ Mike Woodson cracked.

Stoudemire capped the big night, with a big game-sealing basket — spinning down the baseline, having his shot blocked, regaining and laying it in to put the Knicks up 99-95 with 42 seconds left. Stoudemire beat his chest running back downcourt.

The timing for Stoudemire couldn’t have been more precious. Stoudemire was benched for the final 7:52 in the Miami loss and Woodson was pilloried for it. Before the game, Woodson said it was vexing for him to figure out Stoudemire’s role under the 30-minute cap imposed by the medical staff but planned to increase his workload. And did he ever?

“I feel great,’’ Stoudemire said of the extra playing time. “I’ve been a competitor my whole career. I’ve had a lot of success in this league. It’s a matter of being ready when my number is called.’’

The Knicks got off to one of their worst defensive starts in recent memory, allowing Cleveland to hit 22 of its first 27 shots, allowing journeyman Marrese Speights to go 7-of-7 in the first quarter and 10-for-10 by halftime. The Cavaliers were shooting 81.5 percent midway through the second quarter as the Knicks were a sleepwalking disgrace, suffering from a Miami hangover.

“I was thinking about leaving the building,’’ Woodson said.

He would have missed a great comeback. Kidd was terrific, sinking a giant 3-pointer with 1:38 left to put the Knicks up 98-91 and grabbing a clutch offensive rebound with 6.3 seconds left, getting fouled. He made 1-of-2 free throws to make it a three-point game and Tyson Chandler sealed it with a block of Kyrie Irving at the 3-point line.

In an oddity, none of the five starters hit double figures, but four bench players did.

“Guys were gritty tonight,’’ Woodson said. “After we lost Melo, guys really started to f!ght. Amar’e was fantastic. We got him right at 31 minutes. We were just trying to time the minutes for him.’’
 4 years ago '05        #9624
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 4 years ago '04        #9625
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Woodson says he will most likely go w/ Felton, Shump, White, Thomas, Chandler if Melo can't go #Knicks
 4 years ago '08        #9626
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James white still starting
 4 years ago '10        #9627
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Diglett starting White and Thomas?
 4 years ago '04        #9628
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Based Hahn

#Knicks final shot WAS a set play, but turned into a forced shot. Woodson explains and JR's admission are all here:

Woodson drew up a final play that involved lots of action away from the ball (several screens at the top of the key) once JR Smith had it in his hands with just over seven seconds left in the game. If you take a look at the photo posted here (courtesy of @Geeeeemen, who sent it to me via Twitter) you can see Smith had plenty of space to make a move to the basket and then react to the defense accordingly.

He had Amar'e Stoudemire near the high post for a dive if help defense arrived. But the play never got that far. Smith only looked to the clock, never to his teammates to see if anyone had gotten open.

"We didn't get guys to fire off like they should have," Woodson said of the final play. "Once he actually caught it, he looked up at the clock when he caught it and faced. He could have just gone [to the basket] because [the Thunder defense] was plugged into their guys."

Woodson said Smith "could have ripped-through and went to the rim."

Instead, Smith settled for two fakes and a contested fade-away from 20 feet, the most difficult of any option he had available (aside from a skyhook, I guess).

"I really should have went to the basket," Smith said afterward.

Smith had been cooking through three quarters, with 31 points. But in the fourth, with length defenders Thabo Sefolosha and Kevin Durant on him, Smith went 2 for 9, including 1 for 5 from downtown. On the final play, he had Russell Westbrook on him.

Smith had buried two buzzer-beaters this season in Charlotte and Phoenix. Both were on fall-away shots.

"He's made a couple of those that have won games for us going that way," Woodson said.

This would have been a good one to steal, especially without Carmelo Anthony, but while Smith got the Knicks to the end, he couldn't finish it.

"It was a high-scoring night," he said of his Knick-high of 36 points, "but id doesn't mean anything coming out with a loss."
 4 years ago '04        #9629
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Johnette Howard

The leftover paranoia from the New York Knicks' barren years still trails them. But once you get past the funky starting lineups that Mike Woodson has run out lately (Kurt Thomas? James White?) and ignore how half the Knicks' banged-up roster is old enough to remember way back when d!ck Bavetta had hair, the Knicks showed a little something against the Oklahoma City Thunder Thursday night that suggested their cynics really ought to relax a little.

The Knicks again displayed a trait that gives them a chance to be a threat come playoff time.

When you put one of the NBA's best teams in front of them, the Knicks turn into giant k!llers.

If Oklahoma City didn't know that about the Knicks before pulling into the Garden, they should have. The Thunder should have anticipated the Knicks might throw a scare into them, even though New York was missing Carmelo Anthony for a second straight night, and OKC had Kevin Durant, who began the night leading Anthony in the NBA scoring race by a sliver (28.6 to 28.2 PPG). Here's why: Four long months since the Knicks' 18-5 start, there's a pattern to this Knicks season that remains clear.

The dreg teams of the league don't especially inspire the Knicks. And their 'been there, done that' veterans aren't able to sustain the same level of energy every night. But throw a big-game target in front of them like the Thunder, who began the night with the league's third-best record, and suddenly the Knicks recapture everything that got them off to their great early-season start. The Knicks' defense comes alive. Their 3-pointers start to fall. Suddenly, center Tyson Chandler is getting those putback dunks around the rim again, Amar'e Stoudemire is scoring off the bench and the good J.R. Smith shows up.

Smith had a season-high 36 points in Anthony's absence Thursday. And if he could've scratched out just one more hoop among the final two shots he took for the Knicks in the final 33 seconds, the Thunder would've gone down instead of escaping with a 95-94 win.

The Knicks weren't supposed to make it even that close.

In addition to missing Anthony, the Knicks were playing their fourth game in five nights while, Oklahoma City rested the night before. Yet the Knicks still tossed out the sort of game that felt like a throwback to their season-opening start that made them the talk of the NBA.

Nothing during that stretch validated the Knicks more than their 2-0 record against the Miami Heat and a win in San Antonio, which now owns the best record in the NBA. Those wins were the first thing that stamped the Knicks as a legitimately good team this year, back when no one was sure what to expect. Even now, all these months later, that trio of early wins -- plus another one the Knicks added over the Spurs on Jan. 3 -- remain their touchstone. The Start still colors all perceptions and spiked-up expectations about how good this Knicks season can be, especially when considering they were seven points short this week of being 6-0 against the three best teams in the league.

Now granted, those memories can seem like a bad thing when people scream the Knicks should be better than the wildly erratic effort they had on Wednesday against lottery-bound Detroit. The Knicks do still have the second-best record in the Eastern Conference.

But The Start is a good thing that makes the Knicks believe they can come out in a game with the odds of beating the Thunder stacked against them, and nearly steal a win that they're not supposed to get without Anthony. Given the looks the Knicks had at the basket near the end, they thought they actually should've pulled it off.

"I thought it was going to be an even better night," Smith said, referring to how he faded to a 2-for-9 shooting finish in the final quarter after a sizzling 12-for-20 start.

Then, same as Woodson had in his postgame press conference minutes earlier, Smith second-guessed how he went for a jump shot just before the buzzer rather than drive to the rim for a game-winning try with just seconds left.

He missed.

It happens.

But it doesn't change the fact that what this flawed Knicks team lacks is often offset by how hard they simply f!ght.

Woodson groused a little about their end-game execution even as he praised their effort. And he was right. There are times when the Knicks forget to move the ball around, and look like they may never reach 10 a.ssists for an entire game.

Marcus Camby has barely played this season, and Jason Kidd is hoping to catch a second wind. Rasheed Wallace is out with a broken foot and Kenyon Martin was signed off the couch to take his place a couple weeks ago.

Woodson has been patching rotations and lineups together ever since. But look: Martin was just the latest Knick to find his game when it mattered. He fouled out against Oklahoma City. But not before coaxing two alley-oop dunks out of his 35-year-old legs and laying out Durant with a hard foul as Durant (34 points) seemed heading to the rim to dunk -- a statement play by Martin that Woodson praised as "old school."

It would be nice if the Knicks could muster the same intensity against everyone, not just when one the league's best team is in town and they're on national TV. But given what they are, it's probably unrealistic, too.

The Knicks could never say this too much out loud, but face it: They're a veteran team now stuck in the dog days of March, and they already look like they're thinking of the playoffs -- or, more accurately, staying healthy enough to make a run once the playoffs arrive.

That approach may cost the Knicks a few games here or there if they don't k!ll themselves against the Detroits and Washingtons of the league as they do against the Thunder or Heat. But taking the long view is smart.

The Knicks know it's more important to be playing their best by April into May, not now. They're rolling the dice that all the great stuff they did during The Start -- that demonstrated ability of theirs to play like giant k!llers against big-time teams -- will be there again when they need it most.

"We're the type of team, we're going to battle you," Chandler said Thursday night. "You win some, you lose some. But when you play like that, you can accept games like these."

The Knicks just missed bagging another big-game target Thursday. But to borrow one of Woodson's favorite words, they "absolutely" think there's no one they can't beat. Now the Thunder know it too.

Come playoff time, that's a pretty good trait to have.
 4 years ago '04        #9630
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Ian Begley

It looks like Amar'e Stoudemire will miss the rest of the regular season.

The only thing Knicks fans can do now is hope New York plays like the team that started the year 21-9 with Stoudemire out due to injury.

It might seem harsh to ask so soon after the news of Stoudemire's latest setback with his knee, but it's worth considering: Can the Knicks be better without Stoudemire?

They averaged 102.6 points per game with an average scoring differential of plus-6.1 points per game with Stoudemire out.

With Stoudemire in the fold, the Knicks went 16-13, averaged 97.2 points per game and had a scoring differential of plus-2.2.

Of course, it would be incorrect to correlate the 16-13 record directly to Stoudemire's presence. The Knicks suffered through several injuries (Raymond Felton's finger, Rasheed Wallace's foot) after Stoudemire returned. He also can't be held responsible for their poor outside shooting over that stretch.

But with Stoudemire out, Carmelo Anthony might have the opportunity to play more minutes at power forward. Anthony -- who has missed three games with a knee problem of his own -- established himself as an early-season MVP candidate in the first two months by dominating against bigger, slower power forwards. Can he reignite the campaign with Stoudemire out?

Also, it's worth wondering if the Knicks' defense improves with Kenyon Martin filling in for Stoudemire, who is widely recognized as a poor defender.

NO WAY! THEY'RE BETTER WITH AMAR'E: Mike Woodson called Stoudemire's injury a "major loss" for the Knicks because Stoudemire is a "big piece of the puzzle." It might sound like coach-speak, but Woodson was speaking the truth.

In 29 games this season, Stoudemire averaged 14.2 points and five rebounds in just 23.5 minutes, shooting 58 percent from the field.

In recent weeks, Stoudemire had established himself as a strong low-post threat off the bench -- and that's what the Knicks might miss most.

"When you start playing playoff basketball, you need some post-up play ... [and] that's where Amar'e was so valuable for us," Woodson said.

How do the Knicks replace that post play? Anthony is a threat with his back to the basket, but no one else on the roster can score consistently in the post.

The Knicks can offset the loss of paint points with 3-pointers, but without a post player to draw the defense, it's easier for opponents to defend the perimeter. And the bench scoring will certainly take a hit with Stoudemire out.

Here's something else to consider: The Knicks score 40 percent of their points in the paint when Stoudemire's on the floor. They scored just 32 percent of their points in the paint when Stoudemire's on the bench. That's an indication that his post presence will not easily be replaced and an indication that this Knicks team might not be better off without him.
 4 years ago '04        #9631
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Berman

SAN FRANCISCO — Amar’e Stoudemire sent a message to his fans last night to not count him out. Ever.

On the verge of undergoing right-knee debridement surgery as soon as today, Stoudemire posted on his Twitter account: “To my true fans who understand my heart...This is the life that the most high chose for me. I have to keep my faith in him. I will return again & again & again to help lead the Knicks to f!ght for a championship.’’

Stoudemire was last seen in the Knicks locker room late Thursday night after their loss to Oklahoma City, wearing a bright red sports jacket, a brooch he bought in Paris, a black fedora, and a long chain with a large Star of David charm. He looked like $100 million and said he felt that way too, despite the added minutes.

Suddenly, after an MRI exam on Saturday, he is out six weeks, which would coincide with the first round of the playoffs. However, Stoudemire needed eight weeks to return from left-knee debridement surgery to clean out particles from a ruptured Baker’s cyst.

This procedure may be more serious, as medical experts believe Stoudemire will have fragments of articular cartilage cleaned out. When enough articular cartilage is worn away, microfracture surgery is needed. Stoudemire already underwent microfracture surgery on his left knee.

The medical staff put Stoudemire on a 30-minute cap to protect his knees, but the past week’s workload may have been too much. His minutes were lifted from the 24-minute range to 32, 31 and 29 the past three games.

With Stoudemire’s surgery coming two weeks after Rasheed Wallace’s foot surgery, the signing of Kenyon Martin by general manager Glen Grunwald has proven genius. In the past two games, Martin has shown he can be the defensive demon Wallace was. Martin was signed at the trading deadline as insurance for Wallace and Marcus Camby, and the policy has paid off.

“I’m just taking advantage of the opportunity,’’ Martin said. “I’m blessed to be here. It’s unfortunate I have to benefit from someone’s injury, but it’s part of the game.’’

Martin even showed some offensive panache the last two games, scoring 10 points (4-of-6) against the Jazz on Saturday in 21:34, following his breakout performance against the Thunder on Thursday, when he had two buckets — a putback dunk and alley-oop slam.

“He brings such a spark off the bench,’’ Tyson Chandler said. “He plays at such a high intensity. He’s such an excellent defender. He’s been incredible for our second unit. He’s such a physical presence down there defensively. He’s a great communicator, out there talking.’’

The Knicks will miss Stoudemire’s low-post mastery but not his defensive instincts.

“When you’re talking about getting deep into the playoffs, Amar’e had really established himself to help us on that low block,’’ coach Mike Woodson said. “We need that when you start playing playoff basketball. You need to start mixing it up. We’re going to miss that.’’

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Banished rookie Chris Copeland could become a factor again to make up for Stoudemire’s scoring. Until Saturday, when he scored 12 points in 7:21 of garbage time against the Jazz, the Belgian Leaguer hadn’t played since Feb. 20. Woodson was upset with Copeland’s defense, but he proved earlier this season, he can shoot the 3-pointer and drive to the basket.

“Cope can score the basketball,’’ Woodson said. “He’s going to be valuable for us. When I’m in a pinch, I need guys who can score. I’m not going to hesitate to throw Cope in. I’ve just got to get him committed on the other end. I wouldn’t be doing my job if I just let him go one way.’’
 4 years ago '04        #9632
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Jared Zwerling

There was a stretch in early January when the Knicks played the Celtics, Pacers and Bulls and were outmatched by the physicality of the three beasts in the East.

Starting Monday, the Knicks will be tested in a different way against five consecutive difficult opponents: the Warriors, Nuggets, Trail Blazers, Clippers and Jazz.

The challenge? Keeping up with the faster pace, which defines the Western Conference style of play.

The Knicks' offense is the sixth-slowest in the NBA in terms of pace (92.7) -- a measurement of the average number of possessions per 48 minutes by a team. The Nuggets, on the other hand, have the second-fastest pace (97.7) and the Warriors are fifth (97).

Additionally, while the Knicks are second-worst in the league in fast-break points per game (9.0), the Nuggets, Clippers, Jazz and Warriors are all in the top 10. Denver is first in the category at 19.8, led by arguably the speediest point guard in the league, Ty Lawson, and his explosive wing teammates. The other teams also have fleet, big-time floor generals: Chris Paul, Stephen Curry and Damian Lillard.

Fueled by that speed and scoring in transition, those teams also capitalize on the energy of their local fans. Each team is much better in its own building than on the road. In fact, the Nuggets are tied with the Heat for the league's best home record (28-3).

On Saturday, Mike Woodson spoke about the importance of controlling pace on the road.

"It's going to be very important," he said. "Denver is just running people out of the gym. I don't know if it has a lot to do with the altitude or what, but they've been great at home. And the Clippers have been great in their building, so I mean, anytime you go on the road and play in hostile environments, you've got to control tempo. You can't get in their type of game, unless it presents itself, but you've got to know when to back away because they're pretty good in those buildings."

Woodson said that to prepare for the faster pace, rest is "the main thing," which holds true for the older Knicks and their recent history of injuries.

"If we got time to get a day or two of practice in, we will, but a lot of this is going to come down to guys getting rest and being ready and more alert," he said. "When you got this many games hitting you like that, if you're not alert, then you're not going to get much accomplished on the floor. So you've got to be committed, you've got to be focused."

Tyson Chandler said that he likes "the personnel of this team" for adjusting to different paces.

"We can play in any game," he said. "We're big, we're physical and we've got enough players to get up and down the court."

He's right about the transition game, but only when the guys commit to defense, which they have been doing recently. While the Knicks don't have a plethora of young run-and-gun players, like their West opponents, they're able to capitalize off making stops through Raymond Felton's and J.R. Smith's open-court aggressiveness, the team's 3-point shooting and Chandler as a terrific trailing finisher.

The name of the game is pace on the West Coast. Can the Knicks keep up?
 4 years ago '04        #9633
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Woodson says may keep Melo's minutes down a bit tonight. Melo shooting Js at Olympic Club.
 4 years ago '04        #9634
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Iman has officially dropped the "Rook" title from Woody
 4 years ago '04        #9635
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Berman

The Knicks haven’t won a playoff series since 2001, but the Garden’s $800 million, three-year transformation continues to give owner James Dolan cause to jack up season-ticket prices.

In a press release, the Knicks announced season-ticket prices will go up, on average, 6.4 percent for next season. The ticket increase is related to the final stage of the three-year transformation being completed in time for next season.

Ticket prices for Rangers game will increase by four percent.

Two skybridges will be built above the Garden floor, where seats will be situated. There will be a new Gardenvision scoreboard. There will be 18 remodeled suites on the ninth floor and the grand entrance to the Garden will be revamped. In addition, the pinwheeled Garden ceiling will be restored. The Garden declined to specify which seats’ prices will be raised the most.
 4 years ago '04        #9636
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Berman

OAKLAND — Carmelo Anthony played last night in the Knicks’ 92-63 loss to the Warriors, but what condition his knee will be in the rest of the season still is a question, as is the cause of his knee stiffness.

Anthony, who scored 14 points last night on 4-of-15 shooting, said he doesn’t know if he’ll be 100 percent any time soon, but claimed he has not been told he will need offseason knee surgery due to cartilage wear and tear.

“This was always the plan of me coming back on this road trip, to use this last week to get more rest and try to start off fresh for this road trip,’’ Anthony said. “I don’t think I’ll ever be 100 percent to be honest with you, but I will play.”

Anthony also plans to play tomorrow in Denver in his first return to the city where he opened his NBA career. The week off, in which he missed three games, will at least have him in a better way than had he played through the knee injury.

“I wasn’t concerned about that,’’ Anthony said. “I’m very happy to go back [to Denver] and play. If I wasn’t able to play, I wouldn’t have been upset about missing that game.’’

When asked about if it will be special, Anthony said, “Just to go back, I started my career there. I spent 7 1/2 years of my career. I did so much in that city. For me to go back not wearing a Denver Nugget jersey, there’ll be some mixed emotions with me. It was a new beginning when I started out there. There’s a lot of emotions.’’

And a lot of curiosity about his knee. The fluid and knee stiffness can be due to the flaking off of cartilage, according to medical experts. Anthony said he can’t get an answer on what the injury is exactly, but so far he has not been told offseason surgery is needed. He had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee after the 2010-11 season to clean out loose cartilage.

“There’s no pain at all. Just stiffness,’’ Anthony said at San Francisco’s Olympic Club. “Nobody really can give me an exact answer on it. Because there’s no pain or ligament damage. Just fluid in the back of the knee that’s prevented me from hyperextending my leg. Nothing of that nature. None of that. No surgery.

“Just a matter of getting tight in the back of the knee. Nothing in the front of the knee. No pain. No soreness. Just some irritation.’’

Anthony said he still has some swelling.

“I used this week to really try to get healthy, get my legs back, get the soreness out,’’ Anthony said. “I don’t think [the fluid] is completely gone. But with the rest, sitting out a couple of days, getting treatment, I definitely benefitted.’’

In light of Amar’e Stoudemire’s impending knee surgery, coach Mike Woodson has said he wants to keep Anthony to 35 minutes, tops, the rest of the season. Anthony didn’t sound crazy about the idea. Stoudemire was on a 30-minute cap, but went slightly over it last week. It may be no coincidence that after a three-game stretch in which Stoudemire set season highs in minutes in two of them, he came up lame.

“I don’t know,’’ Anthony said. “We got to see how the game goes. If I come back to play, I come back to play. If he wants to limit my minutes, I’m all for it. But when I come back to play, I come back to play.’’

Woodson won’t f!ght it.

“I would like to do that,’’ Woodson said. “These guys, you put minute restrictions, they get a little testy. I’ll kind of do what he wants to do.’’

Anthony departed the Cleveland game last Monday after he took a fall with the Knicks down 22 points. The Knicks rallied for the win. Anthony said he had been bothered by the injury the past couple of weeks but played through it. Anthony thinks the original injury occurred all the way back when he hyperextended the knee on Christmas against the Lakers but that was believed to be the left knee, not the right. Anthony has already missed 10 games this season.

Now Stoudemire is out at least six weeks and could be out until the second round of the playoffs.

“Take away the basketball aspect, just for him as person, mentally and emotionally to go through the roller coaster ride, to work so hard to get back to where he was at and to take a step backwards, I feel bad for him,’’ Anthony said. “As a person. I know he’s going through a lot trying to figure out why it’s always him.

“We’ve been in this situation before where we waited for him. The most important thing is for him to get healthy. We’re going to miss him. We need him. He was a big part of what we had going on. He worked his way back to being the Amar’e that everybody knows. He was given us a lot of production coming off that bench.’’
 4 years ago '04        #9637
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OAKLAND — The Knicks are ready to write a new book: “How the West was Lost.’’

Carmelo Anthony’s return was a complete disaster and the Knicks were a complete mess last night as they began their daunting, five-game West Coast trip with a disgraceful 92-63 loss to the Warriors at The Oracle. It was a season low for points for the Knicks, whose previous low was 76, and they shot an embarrassing 27.4 percent (20 of 73).

Anthony, after missing three straight games with fluid in his right knee, had no fluidity to his game, pop in his legs or rhythm to his jumper, stinking out the Bay Area with a 4-of-15 brickfest.

“It was real sore,” Anthony said. “I tried to get through it and figure it out. I didn’t know how it would respond. It was agitation. I felt it out there.”

In 34 minutes, Anthony finished with 14 points and 10 rebounds but also spent the night out of position on defense.

“He was a little sluggish. We expected that,” coach Mike Woodson said. “We can’t use that as an excuse. We still have enough bodies without him.

“We had nothing going on offensively. We played one quarter. After the first quarter, that was it.”

It’s not an ideal time for Anthony to be in a funk. Tomorrow, he makes his first return to Denver since forcing a trade to the Knicks during the 2010-11 season.

Anthony played 30 minutes before being benched with 2:14 left in the third quarter and the Knicks trailing by 27 points, 74-47. Surprisingly, he returned with 9:16 left and a hit a 3-pointer before he was taken out for good with 5:25 left, down 24.

Stephen Curry didn’t hit for 54 this time, but sizzled again, scoring 26 points, making 6 of 10 3-pointers. But the depressing evening was lowlighted by J.R. Smith’s ejection with 6:51 left in the third quarter when the Knicks’ tough guy was tagged with a flagrant foul 2. He came down hard with two hands on a driving Harrison Barnes, getting him across the face. It was a nasty infraction with the club down 24 points, and referee Joey Crawford reviewed the tape and upgraded it to a flagrant 2, sending Smith to the showers for the second time in two weeks.

“I know I get fouled harder than that every night,” Smith said. “I know I got a target on my back.”

Smith was probably ticked at his 3-of-11 shooting and the lovely evening by Curry and David Lee, the ex-Knick, punished the Knicks with 21 points, 10 rebounds and eight a.ssists, nearly copping a triple-double.

With Amar’e Stoudemire having surgery yesterday and not available as a low-post presence, the Knicks couldn’t compete, shooting just 5 of 27 from the 3-point line. The Knicks’ leading scorer was Chris Copeland, who had 15, all in garbage time.

Anthony played all 12 minutes of the first quarter and 19:55 total in the half. He had just seven points on 2-of-8 shooting from the field, 3 of 5 from the free-throw line.

Anthony was not himself, moving stiffly, shooting poorly, defending ineptly. He left his man for switches, leaving guys open, including in the second quarter when Jarrett Jack hit a wide-open jumper on a Anthony switch.

“Any time you come off an injury, the first game is always the toughest,” Jason Kidd said about the superstar’s return.

Anthony missed the last three games with a sore/stiff knee caused by fluid buildup. He said before the game there was still a little fluid left.

Often he was matched up against Lee and didn’t seem to have the strength to post up against the burly power forward. Lee took Anthony to school on turnaround jumpers. He had 13 points in the half with five rebounds and six a.ssists.

The Warriors built a commanding 50-35 lead by halftime as Curry shined again with 17 first-half point and Anthony’s return was fast turning into a dud.

Smith didn’t help. He was 2 of 10 in the half, missing his drives and jumpers.

Curry had 54 points in a Garden loss 12 days ago and was on pace with 11 points midway through the first quarter. His 3-pointer was soft as tissue paper again, hitting his first trey and making 5 of 7 by halftime. After calling a timeout, Woodson started yelling at Raymond Felton, presumably for not getting up closer on Curry beyond the arc.

Golden State’s sharpshooter, Klay Thompson (23 points), also made Felton look bad on one play, going for a shot fake and letting Thompson go around him for a bunny jumper.

In the prior meeting, Curry had no help from Thompson. But this time, Thompson was raining jumpers, making 3 of 4 3-pointers and hitting for 13 by halftime. Neither Lee nor center Andrew Bogut played in the first meeting. Lee was suspended for the Indiana brawl and Bogut had back spasms.
 4 years ago '04        #9638
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Today's Burning Question: Should Chris Copeland be part of the Knicks' main rotation?

After the Knicks scored a season-low 63 points against the Warriors on Monday night, Tyson Chandler said "Not too many players got into rhythm."

"Cope played well," Mike Woodson said afterward. "He's been giving us some positive minutes. He might have to see more time."

You think?

Besides Carmelo Anthony, Copeland is arguably the team's most versatile scorer in half-court sets. In fact, when he and Anthony used to play one-on-one occasionally at the Pepsi Center during summer workouts when Melo was in Denver, the Knicks' 28-year-old rookie would sometimes beat him.

Now that the injured Amar'e Stoudemire is out for the rest of the regular season, the Knicks need scoring down low off the bench -- Anthony brings that to start games -- and Copeland can take on that role at times. In addition, he clearly can take his game to the perimeter, where he can work off pick-and-rolls or be a threat as a spot-up shooter.

While Copeland still struggles defensively and with his court awareness -- he had four turnovers Monday night -- he needs to play sooner to give the team an earlier boost. They're hurting for offense right now. You also have to factor in their next four West Coast opponents who like to play at a faster pace. His quick release and sharp moves off the dribble should fit right into the flow of the games.

No more garbage time for Cope.
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DENVER — J.R. Smith was vindicated Tuesday when his flagrant 2 foul during the Knicks’ Golden State game Monday — an automatic ejection — was reversed to a lighter flagrant. But all that means is he will get some money back.

Smith, as well as Carmelo Anthony, makes his first homecoming since leaving Denver after the 2010-11 season, and has other issues besides having what he called “a target on my back’’ with the referees.

Smith is battling a sore left knee that was wrapped in ice yesterday during practice. Before Saturday’s game at the Garden, his knee issue became so severe he visited the team orthopedist Dr. Answorth Allen before the game.

“I’m all right, a lot of guys are worse off than me,’’ Smith said.

Smith, with his renegade reputation he weaved in Denver, is trying to change his offensive game and drive the ball more. But he needs the referees on his side. Smith was ejected in the third quarter Monday when he came down hard on Harrison Barnesgetting him across the face and chest.

“I thought it was just a hard foul,’’ Smith said. “I get fouled harder than that every night.’’

Smith is getting frustrated as he tries to rework his offensive game.

“My jumper hasn’t been falling,’’ Smith said. “A lot of people are saying go to the basket. Maybe you’ll get a call. It hasn’t been working. I’ll keep doing it.’’

Smith holds a Denver record — most 3-point makes, 768.

“I think he’s still learning how to score,’’ Woodson said of Smith’s issues with referees. “Sometimes scorers when they go in there they are so caught in trying to make the shot, sometimes you pull away from contact.The great scorers take the blows and you know you’re going to get to the line,” Woodson said. “That’s the fine line he is as a scorer. He’s been pretty much a jump shooter.”

* Karl on the six returning former Nuggets (Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby, Smith, Raymond Felton and James White): “I hope it’s a celebration, but when the game gets started I hope they’re supportive and crazy wild for us.” The Knicks are one of those teams that travel well.’’ ... Smith on his return: “I had fun here. I feel nothing bad about Denver.’’ ... Denver is 28-3 at home, best in the West.
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