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 5 years ago '11        #9521
nbrock 27 heat pts27
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 Blkboipurp said:
I actually understand what your're saying but that wasn't the case today.Him and Melo was the only dudes doing something that game....everybody else was on some other sh!t
This....
 5 years ago '11        #9522
elvisfreshly 106 heat pts106
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 nbrock said:
Your team won't even make the playoffs...no troll
6-0 w/o our best player, drop Melo and let me see the Knicks go 6-0
 5 years ago '07        #9523
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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Novak needs to pack his sh*t and go so we can give copeland that PT....we cant guard anyone on the perimeter...Time to put Stat back in the starting lineup..this sh*t was cute while it lasted
 5 years ago '11        #9524
nbrock 27 heat pts27
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 KnicksLost said:
Novak needs to pack his sh*t and go so we can give copeland that PT....we cant guard anyone on the perimeter...Time to put Stat back in the starting lineup..this sh*t was cute while it lasted
At least you agree with everything I said
 5 years ago '04        #9525
luv4music 7 heat pts
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 elvisfreshly said:
6-0 w/o our best player, drop Melo and let me see the Knicks go 6-0
shows he's not your best player




as how to fix this -- Kidd needs to move to the bench

Novak/Brewer needs to be moved for one player that can do both jobs, because either of them are too pathetic to be getting an NBA pay check

that Dudley deal looks good to me, but in the end it's all about the defense and if we can't do sh*t about that then it's a wrap
 5 years ago '10        #9526
Blkboipurp 
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Oh and Woodson is the reason they lost that game.Why the fu*k would you have Novak and Stat on the floor together when yall just went on a run and took the lead by 1 or 2 points......then had the audacity to have him D up Crawford.That was some real Antoni sh!t
 5 years ago '11        #9527
nbrock 27 heat pts27
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 Blkboipurp said:
Oh and Woodson is the reason they lost that game.Why the fu*k would you have Novak and Stat on the floor together when yall just went on a run and took the lead by 1 or 2 points......then had the audacity to have him D up Crawford.That was some real Antoni sh!t
Lmao you absolutely right..
 5 years ago '06        #9528
marcusaka50 59 heat pts59
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knicks have some great talent to be champions it pisses me off.

the knicks beat them selves they don't consistently play up to their potential.

they need a leader on the court or a leader as a coach.

if they had pop or thibodeau as their coach this team would be the 3rd best team in the nba.

maybe it is coach but at the same time its damn what the fu*k ya'll n*ggaz need to be motivated.

you should be self motivated.


Last edited by marcusaka50; 02-10-2013 at 03:59 PM..
 5 years ago '11        #9529
nbrock 27 heat pts27
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 marcusaka50 said:
knicks have some great talent to be champions it pisses me off.

the knicks beat them selves they don't consistently play up to their potential.

they need a leader on the court or a leader as a coach.

if they had pop or thibodeau as their coach this team would be the 3rd best team in the nba.
So you think its the coach...Melo literally doing all he can..it's like this n*gga can't catch a break
 5 years ago '04        #9530
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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that n*gga needs some rotational coaches for real
 5 years ago '08        #9531
AC_89 237 heat pts237
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We missing sheed imo
 5 years ago '07        #9532
Root Of Evil 56 heat pts56
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 elvisfreshly said:
6-0 w/o our best player, drop Melo and let me see the Knicks go 6-0


dont ever compare that bums 11 n 11 to what melo does
 5 years ago '07        #9533
Ham Rove 3520 heat pts3520
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 5 years ago '12        #9534
ALTheGreatS 23 heat pts23
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It's gonna get better. The Defense needs a little fine tuning that's all. And I guarantee you Woodson's gonna emphasize that during All Star break. It'll be alright.
 5 years ago '05        #9535
Bx_Bomberz 190 heat pts190
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hey guys oldschool member of this forum(can u tell by my avy LOL), i jumped off the bandwagon years ago the dantoni days were the tipping point for me.

congrats on the season though i still watch everygame (as i do my utah jazz :P) listening to matt harpring do color commentary will really make you appreciate how awesome clyde is.

anyway, remember when you guys basically ran me off this board for going ballistic about the knicks drafting gallinari over brook lopez. now i know u guys netted melo, so it worked both ways...

but what say you about brook lopez 25PER, 4th in the league behind lebron durant and cp3. am i still... delusional?
:laugh ing5:

damn i miss these smilies. good luck in the playoffs.... and uh, is it true shumperts being shopped...?
 5 years ago '04        #9536
Born_Loser|M 101 heat pts101
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Although Mike Woodson believes the New York Knicks should keep Iman Shumpert, the coach wasn't able to a.ssure both Shumpert and the public that a trade won't be made between now and the Feb. 21 NBA trade deadline.

Woodson knows any potential trade is "out of my hands," including a reported deal involving Shumpert and the Phoenix Suns' Jared Dudley.

"I don't think you can ever tell a player he's not (being traded)," Woodson said on Sunday. "That's kind of out of my hands. If the owners came to me and said we have to do a deal, you do the deal.

"But I sat him down and I told him. He knows how I feel about him. I mean, my daughter jumped me last night about that trade rumor. She called me and said 'Daddy, you're not trading him,' because they all went to Georgia Tech together. Man, I'm like 'Iman's going to be right here with me.'"
 5 years ago '04        #9537
Born_Loser|M 101 heat pts101
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In Carmelo Anthony's mind, the New York Knicks should not belong in trade rumors because they don't need to swing a deal before the Feb. 21 NBA trade deadline.

While Iman Shumpert has been involved in rumors, Anthony believes the Knicks shouldn't trade him.

"We don't need to make no moves," Anthony said. "No, we're good. ... What are we going to go get? I don't know what we going to go get for (Shumpert).

"Shump, he ain't going nowhere. He ain't got to worry about that. The Knicks shouldn't even be in trade talks."
 5 years ago '04        #9538
Born_Loser|M 101 heat pts101
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Berman

A disturbed Carmelo Anthony weighed in emphatically on rumors the Knicks were listening to offers for slumping swingman Iman Shumpert, who has struggled in his return from ACL surgery.

“He shouldn’t be worrying about that,’’ Anthony said. “The Knicks shouldn’t even be in trade talks right now.’’

The Knicks don’t appear ready to move one of their bedrocks of the future, especially in a potential exchange for the Suns’ Jared Dudley and a first-round pick. But Knicks coach Mike Woodson felt it was important enough to talk to Shumpert before yesterday’s 102-88 loss to the Clippers in which Shumpert was a.ssigned to Chris Paul and didn’t fare too well. Shumpert’s offensive slump continued as he scored two points on 1-of-4 shooting in 20:54.

“He said, ‘Don’t worry about it,’ ’’ Shumpert said. “Rumors are rumors. I just got to play ball. Something I can’t control.’’

Woodson said his daughter, who graduated from Georgia Tech in December, got angry at him over the speculation the Knicks could trade Shumpert.

“She called me and told me, ‘Daddy you’re not going to trade him,’ because they all went to Georgia Tech together,’’ Woodson said. “I was like, ‘Iman’s going to be right here with me.’ ’’

But Woodson admitted never say never.

“I don’t think you can ever tell a player he’s not, that’s kind of out of my hands,’’ Woodson said. “If owners came to me and said we have to do a deal, then you do the deal. I sat him down and I told him. He knows how I feel about him.“We show him love and we tell him he’s a big part of what we’re doing,’’ Woodson added. “Those are just trade rumors.’’

Paul, who finished with 25 points, had his way with Shumpert. Shumpert said it’s tough to judge because the Knicks have a help-oriented defense. But he knows he’s not the defensive demon he was before the knee surgery.

“It’s definitely frustrating to jump back in the middle of the season,’’ Shumpert said. “I didn’t think it would be this hard at all, but your mind and body is in two different places. I’ll figure it out.’’

The Paul a.ssignment?

“It’s a challenge to guard a guy like Chris Paul when you’re in the best form,’’ Shumpert said. “Sooner or later, I’ll get back to where I was.’’

* Jamal Crawford (27 points) of the Clippers on returning to the Garden, where he played four seasons: “It is always special to come back to the Garden. It is my favorite arena to play at besides Staples [Center]. It is fun to come back.’’

* Woodson on taking a red-hot Anthony out to start the fourth quarter: “In hindsight, I should have let him keep going. That two-minute stretch we dug ourselves a hole. I went back to our starters, and Melo had cooled off and we couldn’t get into an offensive flow.’’ ... Steve Novak took just one shot in 6:45 and went scoreless.
 5 years ago '04        #9539
Born_Loser|M 101 heat pts101
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Ian Begley

It took three quarters and 38 points, but the Los Angeles Clippers finally figured out how to stop Carmelo Anthony on Sunday.

Using a combination of ball denials from Grant Hill and traps on pick-and-rolls, Los Angeles limited Anthony to just two shots and four points in the fourth.

"They just made some adjustments, just getting the ball out of my hands and making somebody else make plays to try to win the game," Anthony said.

That "somebody" never showed up for the New York Knicks on Sunday afternoon.

The Knicks not named Anthony combined for 14 points in the fourth as the Clippers outscored New York, 31-18, in the final 12 minutes of their 102-88 win at MSG.

You can make an argument that the Knicks' defense was at fault down the stretch. (The Clippers made 12 of 21 shots in the fourth, including 8-of-9 in the paint.) Or you can downplay what happened Sunday afternoon as just one mid-February loss for a team days away from the All-Star break.

But if the Knicks are going to go where they say they want to go this season -- and that means playing basketball deep into June -- they'll need players other than Anthony to score in crunch time.

"He played off the charts," Iman Shumpert said of Anthony's 42-point effort against the Clippers. "We've got to make sure we chip in and do the right thing as far as making the open shots that we're given when he attracts double teams or Amar'e [Stoudemire] attracts double teams. We've got to make sure when we get those shots we knock them down."

The opportunities were there for the Knicks in the fourth. But outside of Raymond Felton (eight points, 4-for-6 shooting) and -- to a lesser extent -- Amar'e Stoudemire (five points in 7:17), their secondary scorers couldn't capitalize.

J.R Smith had one point in 12 minutes, Jason Kidd was scoreless in nine minutes, Steve Novak missed his only attempt in two minutes and Tyson Chandler was scoreless in 4:43.

"We just didn't finish the game the right way," Chandler said.

It didn't help that Anthony was on the bench for the first two minutes of the fourth.

Mike Woodson blamed himself for sitting Anthony to open the fourth as the Knicks fell behind by five.

But Anthony didn't fault his coach for any of New York's shortcomings on Sunday.

"There’s four other guys out there on the basketball court. We’ve just got to make plays," he said. "We’ve been doing that all season long. Today we didn’t make plays in the fourth quarter and we didn’t win the game. So it’s go on to the next game [against Toronto on Wednesday] … we make that adjustment and go on to the break."

It'll be interesting to see if teams copy the Clippers' approach against Anthony in the fourth.

After watching him score 38 points in the first three quarters, Los Angeles trapped Anthony on pick-and-rolls and asked Grant Hill to face guard him for stretches in the fourth. Anthony said the Clips' defense made it difficult for him to catch the ball in his sweet spots. After taking 24 of his team's 60 shots in the first three quarters, the Clippers limited him to just two of his team's 14 in the final period.

"Sometimes the ball seemed like it was slowed down because we were trying to get it to him. He’s hot, you’ve still got to try to feed him," Felton said. "But they were double-teaming and triple-teaming him."

It wasn't the first time that's happened, and it won't be the last. The Knicks have handled it well earlier in the season (their first win in San Antonio comes to mind), but it didn't work out on Sunday.

That's something they'll need to address going forward.

"I think we've got to clean up as we go along," Mike Woodson said. "We've got to get better. Without a doubt."
 5 years ago '04        #9540
Born_Loser|M 101 heat pts101
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Moke Hamilton

NEW YORK — After the Los Angeles Clippers beat up on the New York Knicks on Sunday afternoon, Carmelo Anthony scoffed at the notion that the Knicks need to make a change or two.

“Shump ain’t going nowhere,” Anthony matter-of-factly said when asked about the recent trade rumors involving Iman Shumpert and a potential deal to the Phoenix Suns.

“The Knicks shouldn’t even be in trade talk right now,” he said as he walked out of the Knicks locker room.

Au contraire.
The Knicks began the season 18-6 and got out to the third best 24-game start in franchise history, but since then, the team has become the epitome of mediocre.

Since then? The Knicks are 14-11. It’s fair to say that the Knicks have lost games to some of the tougher teams in the league—but it’s also fair to say that they’ve resembled a team that needs something.

Unfortunately for Knicks fans, Iman Shumpert is really the only thing that the Knicks have to offer in any potential trade. As much as it may hurt for the franchise to trade the only player on its roster whose best days are probably ahead of him, at 32-17, the Knicks are a team playing for right now.

Deep down inside, this team believes that it has an opportunity to win the Eastern Conference and play in the NBA Finals.

Anyone who has watched Shumpert play is rightfully enamored with his potential. To succeed in the NBA, wing players need size, strength, athleticism, and a motor that makes them want to be great.

Shumpert has all of that. What he needs, though, just like Jeremy Lin, is time to develop.

The Knicks might not be able to afford him that opportunity. With its current cast of characters, the Knicks have a two-year window, three years at most, to win an NBA championship.

And while Shumpert is an above average perimeter defender, we still don’t know if he has a similar DNA of Bruce Bowen or even DeShawn Stevenson.

Each of those two, as members of the San Antonio Spurs and Dallas Mavericks, respectfully, locked up opposing wing players while nailing open 3-pointers and kick-outs.

The former, Shumpert can probably do. The latter? We simply don’t know yet.

And that, above is, is the quandary.

The life of an NBA general manager is an everyday, real-life game of playing the stock market. We like to “sell high” on an a.sset, but the problem is we don’t necessarily know where the top is.

In years past, the likes of Channing Frye, Danilo Gallinari and even Landry Fields were thought to be “the future” of the franchise. Quite simply: a one or two year stint, except in the rare instances of players such as Damian Lillard or Kyrie Irving, isn’t usually enough to deem a youngster “untouchable.”
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