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 5 years ago '04        #9341
Jae_Hood_354 127 heat pts127
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 Born_Loser said:
thats gonna be our first game of the season
well i hope knicks win
 5 years ago '04        #9342
Jae_Hood_354 127 heat pts127
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jonah ballow said on twitter amare is out 6-8 weeks
 5 years ago '04        #9343
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 Jae_Hood_354 said:
jonah ballow said on twitter amare is out 6-8 weeks
yeah, hopefully this means Cope gets a bit more playing time. least he tries on defense and can't deny that P-Body n*ggaz and him got some chemistry to make each other look good
 5 years ago '04        #9344
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Keith Schlosser

As the preseason comes to a close, NBA teams are trimming down their rosters. Though they stand to be cut, young guns who made an impression with big league clubs may catch on with D-League affiliates. Who will the Knicks choose to send to the Erie BayHawks?

With the regular season now less than a week away for most NBA squads, it's officially time for each one to mold a fifteen man roster. Who from training camp made surprising impressions? Which non-guarantees did enough to warrant staying on with their respective clubs?

If such decisions haven't been made already, it's a certainty teams will be making crucial cuts in the coming days.

But that doesn't mean it's the end of the road for each and every young gun that's let loose. If they've caught the eye of an NBA team for all the right reasons, a select few prospects will be asked to join a D-League affiliate, so that the big league club can have a closer look during their development. With this in mind, who will the Knicks opt to send to the Erie BayHawks?

Should Chris Copeland and Rasheed Wallace snag the last two spots on the Knicks, three promising prospects (Mychel Thompson, Henry Sims, and John Shurna) will be up for consideration to sign with Erie.

Perhaps the more polished out of the three, Thompson struggled to get into a groove offensively this preseason. He was, however, on the floor late in the game during the Knicks' final preseason win over the Nets, pouring in 13 points (on 3 of 7 shooting from downtown), and coming up with two steals. After spending time with Erie last season, the guard earned a call-up with the Cavs. Despite his underwhelming start with New York, he is arguably the most ready candidate for an NBA roster.

But should the Knicks value need over pure talent, Thompson could very well be squeezed out anyway. With so many injuries in the team's front court, Copeland and Wallace seem like logical choices to fill out the roster. Even if the team decided to look another player's way, Sims could end up edging Thompson out largely in part due to his size. After shooting 43% from down town with the BayHawks last season, the Pepperdine alum would surely be welcomed back to Erie this season. That is, of course, if another NBA squad fails to pick up on sharpshooting beforehand.

Sims showed a lot of promise this preseason, and appears to be exactly the type of player the NBADL is used to helping along. He's a raw prospect. Though he still has an outside chance to make the Knicks due to the position he plays, the Georgetown alum really just needs a place to gain experience, and Erie could be that very location.

The big man has good hands, can crash the boards, and likes to hustle on defense. As a player who seems to enjoy doing all the little things, he already understands how to complement a team's stars. When given a chance this preseason, Sims delivered. In 20 minutes against the Nets on Wednesday, Sims grabbed 5 rebounds, blocked two shots, and made two field goals. In the sole other game he managed to play more than 10 minutes, the big man scored 9 points and pulled down 3 boards on October 21st against the Celtics. He has the tools to be an NBA player, it's just a point of taking time to own those skills. The 22 year old could use a stint with the BayHawks to do so, and may find himself on an NBA roster on some point during the season.

With Thompson and Sims as two likely candidates to catch on with the Knicks' D-League squad, that still leaves room for John Shurna. The lengthy sharpshooter fell short of expectations this preseason, but the team still appreciates his skill set. Heralded as a "Steve Novak Jr." of sorts, Shurna's main strength comes from his ability to help spread the floor and knock down the long range daggers. Perhaps a combination of not getting enough playing time, and tensing up during the pressures of the big moment, the forward never did seem to cash in on his opportunity.

That said, there's a spot for a player of Shurna's talents on every NBA roster. He can add value to a team. Should the Knicks not reserve a spot for the injured Chris Smith (NBA and Knickerbocker swingman J.R. Smith's brother), Shurna represents a worthy enough player to be given another look in Erie to see if he really has what it takes. Given the Knicks' refreshing success with Novak, keeping an eye on his second-coming wouldn't be a bad idea.

There are plenty of cuts from NBA teams to take place in the coming days, and perhaps just as many D-League a.ssignments/signings to follow. It'll be interesting to see who each squad chooses to hold on to, but Thompson, Sims, and Shurna, would be strong picks for the Knicks.
 5 years ago '08        #9345
AC_89 189 heat pts189
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Born what's the starting lineup gonna be against the heat?
 5 years ago '04        #9346
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 dj ac said:
Born what's the starting lineup gonna be against the heat?
Woody said he'll announce it tomorrow but obviously Felton, Brewer, Melo (not sure if he'll be the 3 or 4 yet) and Chandler will be THAT n*gga and play through his boo boo....Camby and Smitty will be available and were practicing today


judging from practice today

Felton
Kidd
Brewer
Melo
Chandler
 5 years ago '04        #9347
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what it do? internet finally back online....watch it fu*k up for me again just by saying that
 5 years ago '08        #9348
AC_89 189 heat pts189
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Good to have u back brother not gonna lie this thread been kinda dead the past few days too can't wait to finally see these guys play tonight
 5 years ago '04        #9349
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time to wake this thread up

While Sixers starting SG Jason Richardson is still out tonight, #Knicks don't have a healthy Tyson Chandler. He still has the flu - the same kind that made him so ineffective at the start of the Miami playoff series. I stumbled upon Tyson coming out of a trainer's room where he had just received fluids because of dehydration and he didn't talk to the media by his locker as norm. He made trip to Philly and plans to play, especially since #Knicks are off until Friday when they host Dallas. Surely Chandler, who was still recovering from a left-knee bruise, and Kidd want to be healthy for that one. Maybe we will see a little of Rasheed before garbage time if Tyson isn't feeling up to it. Chandler scored 2 points and missed the final quarter-and-a-half.
 5 years ago '04        #9350
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@I_Am_Iman: Some dude in a BK NETS hat jus had the nerve to try an stop me for a picture. I'm off that. *Shump walks away*


 5 years ago '08        #9351
AC_89 189 heat pts189
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 5 years ago '10        #9352
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 Born_Loser said:
@I_Am_Iman: Some dude in a BK NETS hat jus had the nerve to try an stop me for a picture. I'm off that. *Shump walks away*


My n*gga
 5 years ago '04        #9353
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@jonahballow

Woodson says same starting lineup for #Knicks tonight. Felton, Kidd, Brewer, Melo, Chandler
 5 years ago '10        #9354
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Just out of curiosity do yall think theres a chance the team may look at bringing in Kmart since he changed his tune on the MLE?
 5 years ago '04        #9355
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Chandler says he is "75 percent" and better than yesterday. Strep throat.
 11-05-2012, 04:08 PM         #9356
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 Born_Loser said:
@I_Am_Iman: Some dude in a BK NETS hat jus had the nerve to try an stop me for a picture. I'm off that. *Shump walks away*


I'm from BK and I still refuse to wear a nets fitted/snapback ... tough or not.
 11-05-2012, 04:09 PM         #9357
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 Born_Loser said:
Chandler says he is "75 percent" and better than yesterday. Strep throat.
Our bigs are fragile as hell, dude needs to stay away from everyone with that cold.
 5 years ago '04        #9358
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 Blkboipurp said:


Just out of curiosity do yall think theres a chance the team may look at bringing in Kmart since he changed his tune on the MLE?
0% chance, full roster...he would have probably have had Sheed spot but dude thinks he's worth a whole lot more than he actually is...














and he wonders why he still a free agent
 11-05-2012, 04:14 PM         #9359
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 Blkboipurp said:


Just out of curiosity do yall think theres a chance the team may look at bringing in Kmart since he changed his tune on the MLE?
Who would we cut though?
 5 years ago '10        #9360
Agentzer0oo0 207 heat pts207
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By Brian Windhorst

It isn't realistic to think the New York Knicks are going to continue at the torrid pace they have set during the first days of the season, which was extended Monday night when they blasted the Philadelphia 76ers for the second straight night, 110-88.

Never before in team history have the Knicks won the first three games of the season by double digits. So far their average margin of victory has been just a shade under 20 points. Even with the Sixers missing Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson, that's not just stunning, it's downright historic.

This sort of dominance cannot last but it also shouldn't be cheapened by calling it a simple hot streak. There are some trends developing that the Knicks might be able to rely on to establish an identity they can count on when all those jumpers aren't falling as freely.

The Knicks just aren't going to average 14 3-pointers a game on 45 percent shooting from outside the arc all season as they have for the first three games. It would be hard to believe that they're going to average 105 points a night or routinely go 19-of-19 at the foul line, as they did Monday in what was another nearly flawless teamwide effort.

There are a few positives going on that are more sustainable and those are what are serving as notice to the rest of the league.

Overall, the Knicks' defense has been remarkable in the early going, even matching up with teams featuring strong offenses. The Heat started the week with the second-most potent offense in the league and were held to just 84 points by New York. The Sixers averaged 103 points in the preseason only to see their offense blown up by the Knicks' active and aggressive defense on back-to-back nights.

One of the reasons Mike Woodson was able to keep the job as coach were the improvements he made to defense when he took over last season. With an entire training camp to create some habits, his team is off to quite a defensive start. The Knicks are allowing only an average of 85 points and 41 percent shooting over the first three games.

These are basic stats but also the two numbers Woodson heavily focuses on. He writes them on the board in the locker room for his players to see and track.

The reason those numbers are low is the activity the Knicks are showing defensively. Last season when he won the Defensive Player of the Year Award, Tyson Chandler joked that he owed a lot to his teammates because they had let so many players drive past them to force Chandler to pick them up and make plays that got him attention. Right now, though, the Knicks' help defense and rotations have been aggressive and crisp, already easing the burden on Chandler.

In part because of additions Jason Kidd, Ronnie Brewer and Pablo Prigioni, the team is now stocked with perimeter defenders who like to get into passing lanes and pick pockets. The Knicks are averaging a whopping 10 steals a game and it has helped them put up 17 more points total than their opponents off turnovers in the first three outings. These are trends that lead to wins.

So is the way the Knicks are doing the inverse and taking care of the ball offensively. Monday they only had seven turnovers and so far are committing about five turnovers fewer than their opponents per game.

This again can be attributed to having more ballhandlers on the roster with Kidd, Prigioni and Raymond Felton all acting as professional point guards out there. So far the Knicks are averaging three more a.ssists and four fewer turnovers per game than they did last season, part of the recipe for a more efficient team. This is happening with three expected rotation players -- Amar'e Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert and Marcus Camby -- out for the time being.

There was an expectation that the Knicks were going to be improved this season as their offseason moves made their bench deeper, shored up some weak spots on the roster and gave them a few more offensive options. It was not expected they would emerge from the preseason already showing so much chemistry and across-the-board improvement in both quantifiable and intangible categories.

The Knicks aren't just 3-0 and owners of three straight blowout wins -- they are looking like they could be the surprise team in the Eastern Conference based on what they've shown thus far.
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