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 4 years ago '04        #9101
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Team USA Lost #boxdenlogic
 4 years ago '04        #9102
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my dude Birdman might be a possibility, def. interested in playing here & for the vet min (like he has a choice on the matter with that one)
 4 years ago '07        #9103
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word is Donte Green wants to sign to us or 2 other teams... I'd rather take Lou Amundsen or Donte Green over Birdman... too old, too injury prone
 4 years ago '08        #9104
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We still need another big imo
 4 years ago '04        #9105
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i'm good either way....i said Birdman mainly because that front court is loaded so playing time might be an issue so less time, less chances of being injured and he's only 34, younger than two guys who will be playing more frontcourt anyway in Thomas & Camby

if either of those other guys (Knicks DO have interest, i can confirm that) i aint gonna be mad either way, depth is depth....and Tyson Chandler is gonna work out with THE DREAM after the Olympics according to Based Hahn
 4 years ago '04        #9106
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at the end of the day, the roster will be filled to 15....either with NBA free agent talent or by local talent since Grunweld is checking out local games for more camp invites
 4 years ago '04        #9107
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 4 years ago '04        #9108
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Jared Zwerling

Amare Stoudemire entered the offseason wanting to work on his down-low game, and coach Mike Woodson agreed, explaining to his power forward that he wanted to use him more on the block next season.

From there, Woodson placed a phone call to one of the greatest centers in NBA history, Hakeem Olajuwon, with whom he played on the Rockets from 1988 to 1991. After discussing Stoudemire's goal, Olajuwon, who manages a big-man offseason camp at his home in Houston, booked STAT in his training schedule, which includes only a few players each summer.

"Coach really is the one who made it happen," said Travis King, Stoudemire's longtime training adviser. "Mike Woodson himself said he wants the ball to go through Amare in the post more, taking advantage of Amare and Tyson (Chandler), and even Carmelo Anthony. The Knicks' frontcourt has got to be one of the most experienced and best ones in the league. The games are decided inside most of the time. Amare has been one of the best bigs in the league for the past 10 years, really without any of the stuff that Hakeem has taught him."

For the past five days, STAT has been in Houston, staying at a hotel and working out for about three and a half hours per day at Olajuwon's indoor full-sized basketball court, which is located on his 500-acre ranch. It's the same place where Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard and LeBron James have trained individually from 2009 to 2011, respectively. It's been reported that Olajuwon charges $50,000 per week, but King wouldn't reveal the amount for privacy reasons.

Along with Nuggets center JaVale McGee, Stoudemire has been learning "Dream Shake" moves and defensive skills.

"Amare is a real student of the game, and when he wants to get better he does whatever it takes, whether it's been working on his free throws or his jumpshot," King said. "Now, it's working on playing on the block and working on his defensive presence. Hakeem is one of the best shot-blockers to ever play the game and one of the best-scoring centers to ever play the game. He's been trying to take it all in to become a complete player."

King said that Stoudemire working with Olajuwon represents his desire to be constantly pushed in new ways.

"He's always been a fan of Hakeem; he just never had a chance to play against him," King said. "Amare always wants the best challenge for him because some of the stuff that Hakeem does, like his footwork, is unconventional. Guys don't teach that stuff, but he can teach it because that's how he dominated the league for 18 years. It's not something where you can pick up a book or pick up a video, and then perfect it.

Another big reason Stoudemire wanted to work with the Hall of Famer was to adapt to his growth as a player.

"A lot of people think that Amare is past his prime, but we really don't feel like he is," King said. "Amare is a six-time All-Star, but he's always been in pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop situations. But now he's really focused on his back-to-the-basket game. As you get older and your athleticism declines, it's good to add other things to your game to keep playing at an elite level. Look at Kobe, for example."

King said Stoudemire is also picking Olajuwon's business brain. That's because STAT is determined to follow in the footsteps of not only Olajuwon, but also Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Shaquille O'Neal, who have all earned big bucks off the court. "The Dream" earned his -- hundreds of millions, that is -- in the Houston real estate market.

Overall during the offseason, Amare Stoudemire is not a creature of habit. With the help of King, Stoudemire arranges different training routines, and every month -- sometimes every week -- he's in another basketball facility.

"He just works out so hard, so we don't do the same thing," King said. "We switch things up for him to give him a different environment."

Already this summer, Stoudemire has trained in New York, Las Vegas, Bradenton, Fla., Paris, Spain and now he's in Houston, where Chandler may join him after the Olympics. Woodson has encouraged it. King said that he and Stoudemire were originally discussing going to the University of Kentucky during this time to train with John Calipari and Kenny Payne before the "Dream" opportunity came about.

After he finishes up with Olajuwon on Aug. 19, Stoudemire is flying to China where he's taking part in a Nike tour. But he'll be still be working out. In fact, King said this week marks the third month in a row Stoudemire has not missed a single day of training. Stoudemire travels everywhere with three trainers -- his main one, a strength and conditioning specialist and physical therapist -- and makes sure to get in two-a-day workouts. King said Stoudemire's back is "doing great and has no issues."

"I think New York's going to be really pleased when he comes to training camp," he said. "He's always been in great shape, he's always taken care of his body, but he's really been on a strict diet and doing two-a-days. He's not taken any days off. He's really committed to being the best power forward in the game."

Stoudemire will be traveling back to New York in early September, where he'll start participating in pickup games and getting acclimated to his new teammates, before real training camp begins later in the month.
 4 years ago '04        #9109
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Sean Deveney

Best quote from USA-ARG was #Knicks signee Pablo Prigioni, who watched Melo get hot: "I hope he shoots like this during the whole season."
 4 years ago '04        #9110
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Hahn

Hosting from 7-11 pm tonight on @ESPNNY98_7FM w/ @PeterBotte. Why I’m optimistic about my Jets and why Dwight2LA favors Knicks. Listen! #fb
 4 years ago '04        #9111
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Hahn

Not much left to discuss on the free agent front, but I know a lot of people are asking about Kenyon Martin and some are reporting suggestions that he may be on the Knicks radar. I don't believe he is. In fact, the name I have my eye on if the Knicks do decide to sign another guaranteed vets minimum is Lou Amundson. Fits well as a depth player who can give you spot minutes of hustle
 4 years ago '08        #9112
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Wouldn't mind amundson at all every team needs hustle guys like that
 4 years ago '04        #9113
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according to Tommy Dee, don't be shocked if Knicks invite Tony Taylor to camp....saying that NYK & Pistons scouts are in love with his game
 4 years ago '04        #9114
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Howard Beck

Over a 16-month span that ended last May, Amar’e Stoudemire lost, in no particular order: his health, his brother, his head coach, his primacy in the Knicks’ universe, his scoring touch and, in the end, a little of his dignity.

By the time the Knicks were shoved out of the playoffs in Miami, Stoudemire appeared diminished on every level, his Q-rating and efficiency rating in simultaneous free fall.

“I’m still that player I was last year,” Stoudemire insisted then, vowing a return to full strength and “an incredible year” next season.

The mission began last week, on a quiet ranch in Katy, Tex., where Stoudemire took the first drop-step in a midcareer makeover. The pick-and-rolling, power-dunking star is now a student of the low post. His teacher is a soft-spoken Hall of Famer with a Nigerian accent and two championship rings.

Hakeem Olajuwon, the former Houston Rockets star and an oracle of the low post, is pleased with his pupil’s progress.

“You won’t believe it,” Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from his ranch outside Houston.

The apprenticeship began on Aug. 6, with daily three-hour sessions on Olajuwon’s private court. Stoudemire has proved a quick study, a.ssimilating moves and countermoves as fast as Olajuwon can demonstrate them.

“It’s night and day,” Olajuwon said. “What’s so nice is he wants it, he likes the post. He’s always wanted to play there, but he doesn’t have the moves that would give him that option.”

Since retiring in 2002, Olajuwon has become the N.B.A.’s go-to source for players hoping to develop their post skills. LeBron James, Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant have visited the Olajuwon ranch. So have Marcin Gortat and the Lopez twins, Brook and Robin. This month, it’s Stoudemire and Denver’s JaVale McGee.

Most players come for about four days, Olajuwon said. Stoudemire is staying for two weeks. His motivation is clear.

Stoudemire’s 17.5-point scoring average in 2011-12 was his worst in a full season since his rookie year. His .483 field-goal percentage was the lowest since his second season. He had his shot blocked 1.3 times per game, furthering speculation that his body was breaking down (although, in fact, that rate was close to his career average).

When the season began, Stoudemire was still dealing with the aftermath of an injured back muscle. In February, his older brother Hazell was k!lled in a car accident, which took a tremendous emotional toll. He sustained another back injury (a bulging disk) in late March.

The final injury was self-inflicted and humiliating — a lacerated left hand sustained when Stoudemire smashed a glass fire-extinguisher cover in the Miami arena, after a Game 2 loss to the Heat.

Stoudemire returned to help lead the Knicks to a series-saving Game 4 victory, but the damage to his reputation was done. And although he is known for a high work ethic, Stoudemire had reason to work a little harder this summer.

“This is the most engaged I’ve seen him in years,” said Happy Walters, Stoudemire’s agent. He added, “I think fans will be happy.”

They will be happier still if Stoudemire’s new skills foster a better dynamic with Carmelo Anthony, his All-Star tag-team partner. Stoudemire was a dominant scorer when he joined the Knicks, but his role and production diminished once Anthony arrived in February 2011. The Knicks have a losing record with Anthony and Stoudemire in the lineup, and every advanced statistic shows they are worse when both stars are on the court.

Now Stoudemire has lost the coach (Mike D’Antoni) and the offensive system that made him a star in Phoenix and New York. Without a steady diet of pick-and-roll plays, he will need other ways to score. Enter Olajuwon.

Mike Woodson, the new coach, was Olajuwon’s teammate for two years, and the two remain friends. It was Woodson’s idea to send Stoudemire to Houston.

“The coach, he has a good vision,” Olajuwon said cheerfully.

Even at 29, Stoudemire has the strength, quickness and agility to be an effective post scorer once he masters the footwork and timing.

“His spin is becoming so sharp and crisp,” Olajuwon said. “He could spin all day. He loves it.”

Until now, Stoudemire hardly needed a post game. He entered the league as a high-flying 20-year-old — the Blake Griffin of his generation — then developed a sharp midrange jumper that made him nearly unguardable. He has averaged at least 20 points in seven of his N.B.A. seasons, with a career shooting percentage of .533.

Stoudemire has also played most of his career for D’Antoni, whose offense is predicated on spacing and movement, not dump-it-in-the-post sets. When Stoudemire was averaging 37 points against Tim Duncan in the Western Conference finals, no one saw much need for a low-post game.

“We had so much success with him, averaging almost 60 wins a year in Phoenix with the system the way it was,” said Phil Weber, who was on D’Antoni’s staff in both Phoenix and New York. “He could have posted up, but he was so successful.”

But circumstances have changed. D’Antoni is gone. Woodson is installing a more traditional offense. Anthony is dominating the ball on the wing. Stoudemire has little choice but to evolve.

“To now develop a post game is going to be remarkable for me,” Stoudemire told Fox 26 in Houston. “It’s going to catch a lot of my opponents off guard, and it’s going to be a great year for me.”

Olajuwon sounds just as eager to see Stoudemire unleash his new moves in the fall — and to see Woodson’s reaction. Woodson attended the first workout last week and was “very happy,” Olajuwon said.

“But if he sees now, if he sees him today,” Olajuwon continued, chuckling, “he would not believe. I’m excited.”
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preseason schedule

Oct. 11 @ WASH, Oct. 13 @ BOS (Hartford), Oct. 19 @ TOR (Montreal), Oct. 20 vs. BOS (Albany), Oct. 24 @ NETS (Uniondale)
 4 years ago '04        #9116
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nothing new to report but Tony Taylor is def. on NYK's radar and despite having 3 PG's already, it would be a huge benefit to get him here so he can learn from two vets who can basically help him grow since they all play similiar ball (Kidd & Pablo)
 4 years ago '10        #9117
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 Born_Loser said:
nothing new to report but Tony Taylor is def. on NYK's radar and despite having 3 PG's already, it would be a huge benefit to get him here so he can learn from two vets who can basically help him grow since they all play similiar ball (Kidd & Pablo)
Have you seen him play and if so is he worth a roster spot?
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Have you seen him play and if so is he worth a roster spot?
we talking about the 14th and 15th spot so yeah (only problem is this dude need to play to get better) all around is waaay better than Lin, that weakness with Lin's dribble, this dude does not have and is not a liability on defense either. since every player is being compared to NBA guys coming out of college, you had ppl calling him a Zeke and Billups type of player.


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if you can keep this dude in the organization till it's time for him to takeover, go for it either keep him in the d-league and/or bring him in if/when Pablo & Kidd get injured
 4 years ago '08        #9119
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Too many knicks fans keep saying the c word as in championship i mean i love our team deepest team n a while but stillr we even better than boston???
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sh*t like that i don't even bother engaging in cause ppl say dumb sh*t just for attention ESPECIALLY on this site. who know who we better than cause the season.....not even pre-season started so who knows if the new/returning games can mesh with the current team. the team has yet to even have a real training camp together. i like being optimistic but i'll take a realist approach over a biased approach (oh i'm rooting for this team so they the best...) fu*k outta here with that
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