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 5 years ago '08        #9101
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Wouldn't mind amundson at all every team needs hustle guys like that
 5 years ago '04        #9102
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according to Tommy Dee, don't be shocked if Knicks invite Tony Taylor to camp....saying that NYK & Pistons scouts are in love with his game
 5 years ago '04        #9103
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Howard Beck

Over a 16-month span that ended last May, Amar’e Stoudemire lost, in no particular order: his health, his brother, his head coach, his primacy in the Knicks’ universe, his scoring touch and, in the end, a little of his dignity.

By the time the Knicks were shoved out of the playoffs in Miami, Stoudemire appeared diminished on every level, his Q-rating and efficiency rating in simultaneous free fall.

“I’m still that player I was last year,” Stoudemire insisted then, vowing a return to full strength and “an incredible year” next season.

The mission began last week, on a quiet ranch in Katy, Tex., where Stoudemire took the first drop-step in a midcareer makeover. The pick-and-rolling, power-dunking star is now a student of the low post. His teacher is a soft-spoken Hall of Famer with a Nigerian accent and two championship rings.

Hakeem Olajuwon, the former Houston Rockets star and an oracle of the low post, is pleased with his pupil’s progress.

“You won’t believe it,” Olajuwon said in a telephone interview from his ranch outside Houston.

The apprenticeship began on Aug. 6, with daily three-hour sessions on Olajuwon’s private court. Stoudemire has proved a quick study, a.ssimilating moves and countermoves as fast as Olajuwon can demonstrate them.

“It’s night and day,” Olajuwon said. “What’s so nice is he wants it, he likes the post. He’s always wanted to play there, but he doesn’t have the moves that would give him that option.”

Since retiring in 2002, Olajuwon has become the N.B.A.’s go-to source for players hoping to develop their post skills. LeBron James, Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant have visited the Olajuwon ranch. So have Marcin Gortat and the Lopez twins, Brook and Robin. This month, it’s Stoudemire and Denver’s JaVale McGee.

Most players come for about four days, Olajuwon said. Stoudemire is staying for two weeks. His motivation is clear.

Stoudemire’s 17.5-point scoring average in 2011-12 was his worst in a full season since his rookie year. His .483 field-goal percentage was the lowest since his second season. He had his shot blocked 1.3 times per game, furthering speculation that his body was breaking down (although, in fact, that rate was close to his career average).

When the season began, Stoudemire was still dealing with the aftermath of an injured back muscle. In February, his older brother Hazell was k!lled in a car accident, which took a tremendous emotional toll. He sustained another back injury (a bulging disk) in late March.

The final injury was self-inflicted and humiliating — a lacerated left hand sustained when Stoudemire smashed a glass fire-extinguisher cover in the Miami arena, after a Game 2 loss to the Heat.

Stoudemire returned to help lead the Knicks to a series-saving Game 4 victory, but the damage to his reputation was done. And although he is known for a high work ethic, Stoudemire had reason to work a little harder this summer.

“This is the most engaged I’ve seen him in years,” said Happy Walters, Stoudemire’s agent. He added, “I think fans will be happy.”

They will be happier still if Stoudemire’s new skills foster a better dynamic with Carmelo Anthony, his All-Star tag-team partner. Stoudemire was a dominant scorer when he joined the Knicks, but his role and production diminished once Anthony arrived in February 2011. The Knicks have a losing record with Anthony and Stoudemire in the lineup, and every advanced statistic shows they are worse when both stars are on the court.

Now Stoudemire has lost the coach (Mike D’Antoni) and the offensive system that made him a star in Phoenix and New York. Without a steady diet of pick-and-roll plays, he will need other ways to score. Enter Olajuwon.

Mike Woodson, the new coach, was Olajuwon’s teammate for two years, and the two remain friends. It was Woodson’s idea to send Stoudemire to Houston.

“The coach, he has a good vision,” Olajuwon said cheerfully.

Even at 29, Stoudemire has the strength, quickness and agility to be an effective post scorer once he masters the footwork and timing.

“His spin is becoming so sharp and crisp,” Olajuwon said. “He could spin all day. He loves it.”

Until now, Stoudemire hardly needed a post game. He entered the league as a high-flying 20-year-old — the Blake Griffin of his generation — then developed a sharp midrange jumper that made him nearly unguardable. He has averaged at least 20 points in seven of his N.B.A. seasons, with a career shooting percentage of .533.

Stoudemire has also played most of his career for D’Antoni, whose offense is predicated on spacing and movement, not dump-it-in-the-post sets. When Stoudemire was averaging 37 points against Tim Duncan in the Western Conference finals, no one saw much need for a low-post game.

“We had so much success with him, averaging almost 60 wins a year in Phoenix with the system the way it was,” said Phil Weber, who was on D’Antoni’s staff in both Phoenix and New York. “He could have posted up, but he was so successful.”

But circumstances have changed. D’Antoni is gone. Woodson is installing a more traditional offense. Anthony is dominating the ball on the wing. Stoudemire has little choice but to evolve.

“To now develop a post game is going to be remarkable for me,” Stoudemire told Fox 26 in Houston. “It’s going to catch a lot of my opponents off guard, and it’s going to be a great year for me.”

Olajuwon sounds just as eager to see Stoudemire unleash his new moves in the fall — and to see Woodson’s reaction. Woodson attended the first workout last week and was “very happy,” Olajuwon said.

“But if he sees now, if he sees him today,” Olajuwon continued, chuckling, “he would not believe. I’m excited.”
 5 years ago '04        #9104
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preseason schedule

Oct. 11 @ WASH, Oct. 13 @ BOS (Hartford), Oct. 19 @ TOR (Montreal), Oct. 20 vs. BOS (Albany), Oct. 24 @ NETS (Uniondale)
 5 years ago '04        #9105
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nothing new to report but Tony Taylor is def. on NYK's radar and despite having 3 PG's already, it would be a huge benefit to get him here so he can learn from two vets who can basically help him grow since they all play similiar ball (Kidd & Pablo)
 5 years ago '10        #9106
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 Born_Loser said:
nothing new to report but Tony Taylor is def. on NYK's radar and despite having 3 PG's already, it would be a huge benefit to get him here so he can learn from two vets who can basically help him grow since they all play similiar ball (Kidd & Pablo)
Have you seen him play and if so is he worth a roster spot?
 5 years ago '04        #9107
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Have you seen him play and if so is he worth a roster spot?
we talking about the 14th and 15th spot so yeah (only problem is this dude need to play to get better) all around is waaay better than Lin, that weakness with Lin's dribble, this dude does not have and is not a liability on defense either. since every player is being compared to NBA guys coming out of college, you had ppl calling him a Zeke and Billups type of player.


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if you can keep this dude in the organization till it's time for him to takeover, go for it either keep him in the d-league and/or bring him in if/when Pablo & Kidd get injured
 5 years ago '08        #9108
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Too many knicks fans keep saying the c word as in championship i mean i love our team deepest team n a while but stillr we even better than boston???
 5 years ago '04        #9109
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sh*t like that i don't even bother engaging in cause ppl say dumb sh*t just for attention ESPECIALLY on this site. who know who we better than cause the season.....not even pre-season started so who knows if the new/returning games can mesh with the current team. the team has yet to even have a real training camp together. i like being optimistic but i'll take a realist approach over a biased approach (oh i'm rooting for this team so they the best...) fu*k outta here with that
 5 years ago '04        #9110
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Baron Davis will help mentor some of the Knicks’ younger players this upcoming season, Davis’ agent Todd Ramasar said.

"He'll still be around the team and could kind of help some of the younger guys just through his experience," Ramasar said. "The Knicks have been wonderful in terms of just extending support to Baron, whether it be through obviously his physical therapy or just having him involved with the organization going forward. He really loves that team and that organization has done an excellent job with Baron, and Baron feels like that's home. He really, really enjoyed last season with the Knicks."

Davis plans to make a comeback after suffering a partial tear of the patella tendon in his right knee and complete tears of the right anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments.

"From what I'm observing, a lot of his therapy is just coming from walking and strengthening that leg again, and kind of adding some of those muscles that might have atrophied from the time down," Ramasar said. "He's starting to get those muscles to fire again."

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 5 years ago '07        #9111
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I don't care who mentors amare he's still overpaid




  8 - 3 STRK: 2 w in a row WIN PCT: 72% 81 (-2) 
  Career: | Aug 17: 16-22, Rank #607 | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 5 years ago '06        #9112
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Tony Taylor is nice
was in Westchester Toasting n*ggas when he was a sophmore in HS
 5 years ago '04        #9113
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nothing major or new but there is interest in Josh Howard...is it possible for too much depth though? where do you play dude, especially when Iman come back?
 5 years ago '04        #9114
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Sean Williams has come up and could possibly get an invite
 5 years ago '08        #9115
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Sean williams
 5 years ago '04        #9116
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Amar'e revealing the new jerseys on "Live! with Kelly and Michael"


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 5 years ago '04        #9117
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Jared Zwerling

Knicks sharpshooter Steve Novak told ESPNNewYork.com on Wednesday that he and most of the team have organized a "pre-training camp" starting Monday.

The camp will take place at the Knicks' training facility in Greenburgh, N.Y., and will continue all the way through Oct. 1, when the Knicks must report for media day.

Novak said the activities will include alternating days of basketball and conditioning skills work.

"We just want to make sure we hit the ground running," Novak said.

Travis King, the longtime training adviser for Amare Stoudemire, said it's unique for players to join as a unit this early in the offseason. But he added that coach Mike Woodson, who had the idea for the "pre-training camp," and the key veterans (Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler) who picked the date, wanted to do it at this time because they've never been together from the beginning.

"Amare was there in 2010, then Melo came around (in 2011) and then last year with the lockout, they didn't really get to have a training camp," King told ESPNNewYork.com. "I think coach Woodson knows that it's important getting those guys to jell together and knows that they can have a championship-caliber team. Coach knows he's going to have to jell the team earlier, so a lot of the guys agreed to come out earlier in the year."

King said the "pre-training camp" is especially important because the Knicks need to establish a connection between their veterans and new point guards -- a key relationship that will impact the team's chemistry-building. Raymond Felton, Jason Kidd, Pablo Prigioni and Chris Smith didn't suit up for the Knicks last season.

"I think that they've got one of the deepest teams in the NBA, one of the most veteran teams, and they definitely got some guys who are winners. But I think the key with them is going to be getting them to jell," King said. "They've got three point guards who didn't play on the team last year, and that's going to be crucial for them to help the guys who have been there, like Amare, Tyson and Melo, and get everybody on the same page. I think you don't want to try to wait all the way to training camp to do that if possible."

Novak, who's spent most of his offseason training at his alma mater, Marquette, said Woodson wanting to organize the "pre-training camp" speaks volumes about his dedication to the team.

"The way he's gone out of his way this summer to make sure he stays in touch with everybody and visits guys, that goes a long way," he said. "I think to build a winning culture, you have to do a little bit more, and that makes you a better team in the NBA. And I feel like knowing that your coach cares about you and he's thinking about you during the summer, and he has plans for you, that goes a long way."
 5 years ago '04        #9118
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Howard Beck

Knicks G Ronnie Brewer will be out 6 weeks after surgery for meniscus tear in left knee. Injury happened w/in last 2 weeks.
 5 years ago '04        #9119
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in reality, he'll just miss 3 weeks...Beck lost his mind now that he's the Nets beat writer
 5 years ago '04        #9120
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Brewer

"If y'all haven't already heard I had successful meniscus surgery. Started rehab this morning. Minor setback for a major comeback. "

"I appreciate the prayers and get well soons from everyone. Much appreciated. Will for sure be 100% for season opener. "
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