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 6 years ago '04        #8801
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Landry Fields, Toney Douglas, Dan Gadzuric & Jerome Jordan for Nash is the proposed trade

EDIT: 3 Million Dollars too...looks like Based Hahn hit the tactic on the head


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 6 years ago '04        #8802
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Jeremy Lin's return to the Knicks is far from certain, according to sources.

If a club offers Lin a backloaded contract that pays eight-figures in the third and fourth seasons, New York will not necessarily match it.

The Raptors are in the position to offer Lin a backloaded, 'poison pill' type of deal. Toronto is currently in pursuit of Steve Nash, but could pursue Lin as an alternative if they are unsuccessful.

The Knicks can offer Lin a four-year deal worth $24.5 million, but a rival team could go as high as $40 million over four years. The first and second seasons would pay $5 million annually and then $15 million in the final two seasons.

Toronto, Dallas and Brooklyn have all expressed interest in Lin, according to sources.
 6 years ago '04        #8803
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 Born_Loser said:
Landry Fields, Toney Douglas, Dan Gadzuric & Jerome Jordan for Nash is the proposed trade

EDIT: 3 Million Dollars too...looks like Based Hahn hit the tactic on the head
they need to rid everyone you named cept fields,
 6 years ago '04        #8804
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 Jae_Hood_354 said:
they need to rid everyone you named cept fields,
from what I hear its either Iman or Fields...nothing set in stone yet, plus Nash has to meet other teams to see what's up
 6 years ago '04        #8805
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Jared Zwerling

I caught up with Steve Novak on Saturday, the day after the NBA announced it had reached a settlement agreement with the players' a.ssociation regarding the recent arbitration proceeding filed on behalf of Novak, Jeremy Lin, former Knick Chauncey Billups and J.J. Hickson.

Under the settlement, Lin and Novak will have the same early Bird rights as if they had been traded, but will not have full Bird rights unless they are claimed through the league's amnesty procedure.

Here's Novak's take:

Q: What does it mean for you now?
Novak: It was kind of a big relief. For me, getting Bird rights was the biggest thing, I think I understand about 90 percent of it. Myself and Jeremy Lin, we can re-sign [with the Knicks] without it going towards the cap, which is huge. I guess I don't know what exactly to expect; this is my first free agency. In the past, I've been one of the last signings, so I'm not really sure what to expect.

Q: What have you heard from teammates and friends in the league about the free agent process? Anything that you're expecting?
Novak: For one of my good friends, Shane Battier, last year it was really the first time in his career that he was true free agent. And I know he was saying that he was really looking forward to it and looking forward to going through the process, and experiencing just kind of how it works. And then by the time he had to make a decision, he was like, "Oh man, oh man, this is stressful and I'm not sure if I'm making the right decision." It's almost better if you just get that early extension and you don't have to do any thinking or anything.

Q: Is your priority the Knicks, though? And also for Jeremy? I'm sure you guys have been talking about it.
Novak: Yeah, yeah, we've definitely been talking. As I've said a million times, I would just love to be back. There's no question that coming back would be awesome.

Q: You were at the early Bird rights hearing. What was that experience like?
Novak: It was really, really very interesting. To be honest, I wasn't sure if it was going to be kind of like a oh-my-goodness-six-hour-day, where I'm just sitting there and I'm just listening and not understanding exactly. It was really the opposite of that. I was just very impressed I think with the lawyers, and how it was handled and the preparation. The whole process, to be honest, was just obviously very civil. You really just got a feel for how the collective bargaining last summer went on, but at a very, small level. That went on for six months. Every little thing has to just be black and white. That's what caused this; there was a gray area.

It was just crazy to see the intricacies of arguing over something like this. But to me, after really hearing both sides, I knew it just obviously affected me largely and positively. We had the favorable ruling, but to be honest, I really feel like it was the right thing, it was the fair thing, I think it was what the CBA intended to be, and I think that that's good. I think for future players that this affects, to me, that was the best part of winning it.

Q: Did they ask for your opinion? Were you able to express how you felt?
Novak: No, not at all. I really was there listening and, to be honest, the majority of the lawyers just spoke. It was really just being there and knowing it was a huge decision for me.

Q: So what's the essence of early Bird rights to you? Is it security for yourself, knowing that you have a better chance of landing with the Knicks, and higher financial longevity? Are those the two main things, or are there other factors that are important for you?
Novak: In my mind, getting Bird rights, to me, really just meant a much more open door to the Knicks. People were like, "I don't understand all this stuff. Just explain to me if you win what does it mean, and if you lose what does it mean?" My explanation was really like, "Look, if I win Bird rights, I think I have a much, much better chance of being back with the Knicks."
 6 years ago '04        #8806
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for those who wanna check out our Greek prospects, their team is playing right now

 6 years ago '08        #8807
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Gladly trade Fields. Shump is a no fu*king go. I'll be real pissed if they trade Shump.
 6 years ago '04        #8808
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A source close to Marcus Camby told ESPNNewYork.com on Monday that the unrestricted free agent would be interested in returning to the Knicks.

"Marcus lives in New York in the offseason, and if it works out there, it would be terrific," the source said.

Camby, 38, played for the Knicks from 1998 to 2002 and started at center in the 1999 Finals against the Spurs, replacing the injured Patrick Ewing. Camby has also played for the Raptors, Nuggets, Clippers, Blazers and, most recently, the Rockets

The Knicks could use a veteran big man off the bench who changes the game on defense. Camby is a four-time blocks leader who was named Defensive Player of the Year in 2007.

Camby could be open to the team's midlevel exception of $3.09 million. That will be available only if the Knicks sign-and-trade for a free-agent point guard, which is No. 1 on their list because they're the weakest at that position on the depth chart.

If the Knicks sign a top free-agent point guard to the midlevel amount, the source would be "shocked" if Camby accepts the veteran's minimum of $1.4 million. The 16-year veteran could likely command more than $3.09 million, because he earned roughly $11.2 million in 2011-12 with the Blazers and Rockets, and he is still serviceable. Missing only seven regular-season games last season, he averaged 4.9 points, 9.0 rebounds and 1.4 blocks per game.

The source said Camby's priority is to be a starter, which wouldn't happen in New York with Tyson Chandler holding down the middle. But the Knicks would certainly be considered, the source said, because Camby wants to compete and win, and the team is in the position to do that next season. The source said Camby has a great relationship with GM Glen Grunwald, who was the a.ssistant general manager in Toronto in 1996 when the Raptors made the center the second pick in that year's NBA draft.

The source said a lot of calls have come in inquiring about Camby and that a decision won't be rushed about where he'll play next season. Camby is on vacation until this weekend.

"There are a lot of different options and scenarios. It's wait-and-see mode right now," the source said. "But Marcus loved playing in New York, and one of his favorite times in the NBA was in New York."

The source said many agents are working patiently with their clients during the free-agency process and not rushing any decisions. Many are waiting to see how Deron Williams, Eric Gordon and Roy Hibbert dictate the market, while learning the ins and outs of the new free-agent language in the collective bargaining agreement.

"Patience is a virtue during this free agency," the source said.

Reflecting on his time in New York earlier in the year, Camby told ESPNNewYork.com that his favorite memory was playing at Madison Square Garden, especially during the playoffs.

"I think there are no fans like New York fans," he said in late April. "They know the game of basketball. You can't fool those guys about anything. When you're playing bad, they let you know about it, so I have a lot of respect for those fans."
 6 years ago '04        #8809
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Chris Smith, the younger brother of J.R. Smith, believes the New York Knicks shooting guard will return to the team next season.

"He loves New York," Chris told ESPN New York by phone on Monday night while playing golf with J.R. in Los Angeles. "He's looking for a great situation and whatever suits him right, that's what he'll do. The main thing is him being happy; that's all that really matters. But if I had to put a guess on it, he'll be back in New York."

Knicks GM Glen Grunwald said on the night of the NBA draft that his priority is re-signing not only Smith, but Jeremy Lin, Steve Novak and Landry Fields.

"We want to keep both (Lin and Novak) and keep Landry and J.R.," Grunwald said on Thursday night. "They're all valuable players and we're going to try to keep all four of them. We have some (recruiting) plans. We've been in contact with our own free agents and they've expressed their desire to come back. They know we love them and want them. We'll do the negotiating and hopefully it all works out."

Even though J.R. declined his player option of $2.4 million on June 26, he can re-sign with the Knicks at 120 percent of his previous year's salary using a non-Bird exception (around $2.8 million). The Knicks could also use their mid-level exception of $3.09 million to secure Smith, but they'd likely want to spend that on a veteran point guard. Steve Nash and Raymond Felton appear to be the two most popular names on the Knicks' radar.

J.R., along with Chris, has been training on UCLA's campus with his Knicks teammate Carmelo Anthony and Los Angeles Clippers point guard Chris Paul. As for Chris Smith, the former Louisville point guard went undrafted, but he will be playing with the Knicks' summer league team in Las Vegas, starting on July 13. The Knicks are in the market for point guards, the weakest position on their depth chart.

"I feel like this is probably one of the best opportunities I have in my life," Chris said. "When I went to Louisville, nobody expected me to really do anything, contribute, so this is kind of a similar situation. I'm just really looking forward to it."

If the Knicks don't work out for Chris -- they were the only team that worked him out during the pre-draft process and gave him a shot this offseason -- he'll explore overseas opportunities. One destination could be China, where J.R. played from 2011 to '12 before he signed with the Knicks in February.
 6 years ago '04        #8810
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Chris, of course was the first person that named in "our" Summer League squad, would be interesting to have brothers on the same team...maybe that'll calm JR's a.ss a bit more, "setting the example"
 6 years ago '04        #8811
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Hahn

Here's what's riding on the sign-and-trade scenario to land Nash: If the Knicks can get this done, they still have the taxpayer's mid-level exception, which they could use to land Marcus Camby and bolster the frontline depth. Camby is getting interest from the Miami Heat, but he wants more than a veteran's minimum. Camby behind Tyson Chandler would give the Knicks outstanding defense and experience at the center position. But if Nash falls through, that MLE needs to be used for a veteran point guard, such as Jason Kidd or Raymond Felton. That would likely end any shot at Camby.
 6 years ago '04        #8812
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Fields Raptor bound? just agreed to a 3 year deal...NYK has 3 days to match (starting July 11th)
 6 years ago '04        #8813
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Raptors got some balls though.....how do you stop NY from making the trade for Nash? sign the player that Phoenix wants
 6 years ago '04        #8814
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Broussard reported this so who knows what's the truth but Lin will meet with the Rockets....guess the market will begin with Houston for what kinda deal Lin will be getting
 6 years ago '04        #8815
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Rashard Lewis still has "us" on his short list...def. an upgrade from Landry Fields


my pipe dream list is Nash, Lewis and Camby
 6 years ago '04        #8816
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how the "mighty" have fallen....Portland is close to buying out Shawne Williams contract

do we forgive and forget? Novakane and Shawne doe?
 6 years ago '04        #8817
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 Born_Loser said:
Rashard Lewis still has "us" on his short list...def. an upgrade from Landry Fields


my pipe dream list is Nash, Lewis and Camby
honestly i dont want us to get nash hes pushing 40 i understand hes nasty n still has some fuel in the tank id rather us get felton hes younger n did good before the melo trade
 6 years ago '04        #8818
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Berman

"Happy Walters, who reps Amar'e-Shumpert, confirms he's working on Port. buyout for Shawne Williams. His min. is $1.1M. Fields replacement?"
 6 years ago '04        #8819
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 Jae_Hood_354 said:
honestly i dont want us to get nash hes pushing 40 i understand hes nasty n still has some fuel in the tank id rather us get felton hes younger n did good before the melo trade
yeah, he's pushing 40 but he's not showing any signs of slowing down. been saying Felton for a minute cause at the time he has a lot of prove, can obviously handle playing here and has more years in the tank BUT let's be real here, Nash is Nash u don't pass on a player like that. the future counts for something right? what better teacher to have than a Nash?

personally, if i'm a PG and Steve Nash is a team mate, i will pretty much put more stock into what Nash is telling me on ways to improve my game over a majority of coaching staffs
 6 years ago '04        #8820
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according to reports, Jason Kidd no longer wants to know what a p*nis up the a.ss feels like and won't be d!ck riding to Brooklyn (probably cause they don't want him )

reports are now saying his only choices are re-signing with the Mavs or NYK
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