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 9 years ago '04        #861
Born_Loser|M 81 heat pts81
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the better trade easily the Knicks

i'm not being biased, everybody in this section should know i'm the least biased person on here

Celtics got possibly the best 3 in basketball but it cost them their future and bench including 2 future 1st round picks. Allen and Pierce are borderline injury prone but healthy they can be a threat to the entire league

Knicks gave up a huge contract, a soft PF and a 2nd round for an upgrade in the PF position, got us 2 expiring contract plus a good rookie. we still have options to improve our bench by trading our 3 expiring contracts plus another player or 2 and without damaging the bench.

Celtics got the better players but they are not exactly young and it cost them their future, Knicks still got pieces that allow us to make room without fu*king up out future
 08-01-2007, 08:18 PM         #862
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I love KG (no homo) i cant worry about the Celtics, though. but I'll tell you if we are to get any better we need to package David Lee who will not get his minutes anyways, for Kobe or Artest. We then will go from outside looking in to guranteed in the playoffs.

PEople don't want two head aches in NYC but I'll take my chances with Artest or Kobe.....I'm sorry.

Celtics got better then the knicks, hands down. we still have more question marks about our team then they do. ...point blank end of story.

they got KG for nothing. why cant we get Kobe or Artest?

Celtic mortaged they future in salary cap hell, but they are closer to a championship and they have merchandise that will make up the difference.
 08-02-2007, 10:40 PM         #863
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2007-08 New York Knicks
Regular Season Schedule
All Home Games is Bold Ya Know?

november
Friday 2 Cleveland 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 4 Minnesota 6:00 p.m.
Tuesday 6 Denver 7:30 p.m.
Friday 9 Orlando 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 11 Miami 6:00 p.m.

Tuesday 13 Phoenix 9:00 p.m.
Wednesday 14 L.A. Clippers 10:30 p.m.
Friday 16 Sacramento 10:00 p.m.
Saturday 17 Denver 9:00 p.m.
Tuesday 20 Golden State 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 21 Detroit 8:00 p.m.
Saturday 24 Chicago 1:00 p.m.
Monday 26 Utah 7:30 p.m.
Thursday 29 Boston 8:00 p.m.
Friday 30 Milwaukee 7:30 p.m.

December
Sunday 2 Phoenix 7:00 p.m.
Wednesday 5 New Jersey 7:30 p.m.
Friday 7 Philadelphia 7:00 p.m. Mar.
Saturday 8 Philadelphia 7:30 p.m.
Monday 10 Dallas 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 12 Seattle 7:30 p.m.

Friday 14 Chicago 8:30 p.m.
Saturday 15 New Jersey 7:30 p.m.
Monday 17 Indiana 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 19 Cleveland 7:30 p.m.

Friday 21 Charlotte 7:00 p.m.
Sunday 23 L.A. Lakers noon
Wednesday 26 Orlando 7:00 p.m.
Sunday 30 Chicago noon

January
Wednesday 2 Sacramento 7:30 p.m.
Friday 4 San Antonio 8:30 p.m.
Saturday 5 Houston 8:30 p.m.
Tuesday 8 Chicago 8:30 p.m. Apr. .
Wednesday 9 Houston 7:30 p.m.
Friday 11 Toronto 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 13 Detroit 7:00 p.m.
Tuesday 15 Washington 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 16 New Jersey 7:30 p.m.
Friday 18 Washington 7:00 p.m.
Saturday 19 Miami 7:30 p.m.
Monday 21 Boston 1:00 p.m.
Friday 25 Philadelphia 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 27 Golden State 9:00 p.m.
Tuesday 29 L.A. Lakers 10:30 p.m.
Wednesday 30 Utah 9:00 p.m.

Feb.
Friday 1 Portland 10:30 p.m.
Saturday 2 Seattle 10:00 p.m.
Monday 4 L.A. Clippers 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 6 Indiana 7:30 p.m.
Friday 8 San Antonio 7:30 p.m.

Saturday 9 Milwaukee 8:30 p.m.
Wednesday 13 Boston 7:30 p.m.
Tuesday 19 Washington 7:00 p.m.
Wednesday 20 Philadelphia 7:00 p.m.
Friday 22 Toronto 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 24 Toronto 6:00 p.m.
Wednesday 27 Charlotte 7:30 p.m.
Friday 29 Atlanta 7:30 p.m.

Mar. Saturday 1 Orlando 7:00 p.m.
Monday 3 New Orleans 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 5 Cleveland 7:30 p.m.
Friday 7 Detroit 7:30 p.m.
Saturday 8 Portland 7:30 p.m.

Monday 10 Dallas 8:30 p.m.
Wednesday 12 Miami 7:30 p.m.
Sunday 16 Atlanta 6:00 p.m.
Monday 17 Indiana 7:00 p.m.
Friday 21 Memphis 7:30 p.m.
Saturday 22 Minnesota 8:00 p.m.
Monday 24 New Jersey 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 26 Miami 7:00 p.m.

Friday 28 Toronto 7:00 p.m.
Sunday 30 Atlanta 4:00 p.m.

Apr. Tuesday 1 Milwaukee 7:00 p.m.
Wednesday 2 Memphis 8:00 p.m.
Friday 4 New Orleans 8:00 p.m.
Sunday 6 Orlando 6:00 p.m.
Tuesday 8 Detroit 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday 9 Charlotte 7:30 p.m.
Friday 11 Atlanta 7:30 p.m.
Monday 14 Boston 7:30 p.m.

Wednesday 16 Indiana 7:00 p.m.
 08-02-2007, 10:43 PM         #864
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National Broadcast Schedule
TNT
Thursday Nov. 29 at Boston 8:00 p.m.
ESPN
Friday Feb. 1 at Portland 10:30 p.m.
Wednesday Mar. 26 vs. Miami 7:00 p.m.
NBATV
Tuesday Nov. 6 vs. Denver 7:30 p.m.
Saturday Dec. 15 vs. New Jersey 7:30 p.m.
Sunday Dec. 23 vs. L.A. Lakers noon
Sunday Jan. 13 vs. Detroit 7:00 p.m.
Monday Jan. 21 vs. Boston 1:00 p.m.
Friday Mar. 28 at Toronto 7:00 p.m.
Sunday Apr. 6 vs. Orlando 6:00 p.m.
Monday Apr. 14 vs. Boston 7:30 p.m.
ESPN Radio
Thursday Nov. 29 vs. Boston 7:35 p.m.
 9 years ago '07        #865
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 cpalmer1 said:
I love KG (no homo) i cant worry about the Celtics, though. but I'll tell you if we are to get any better we need to package David Lee who will not get his minutes anyways, for Kobe or Artest. We then will go from outside looking in to guranteed in the playoffs.

PEople don't want two head aches in NYC but I'll take my chances with Artest or Kobe.....I'm sorry.

Celtics got better then the knicks, hands down. we still have more question marks about our team then they do. ...point blank end of story.

they got KG for nothing. why cant we get Kobe or Artest?

Celtic mortaged they future in salary cap hell, but they are closer to a championship and they have merchandise that will make up the difference.
Im not ready to part ways with D Lee until you get a better a.ssessment of curry randolph in the post curry lee worked until he got injuried I was thinkin we could package randolph again for KG but the celtic fraternity step in there the same reason kobe is still playing with no one over in LA bird is not sending j oneal and ainge is a piece of crap that stopped the kg to la thing
 9 years ago '04        #866
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i don't see how you can say Lee won't get his minutes....he's not going to just play PF, he can play C and SF

Lee will get 6th Man Of The Year if he's healthy, from now on just call that sh*t The David Lee Award
 9 years ago '04        #867
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TIME FOR DISCUSSION...THREAD'S BEEN NAMED SAYING THE KINGS WANT NATE, 1st round pick and either Lee or Balkman

they can get the 3 expiring contracts, jefferies and either Nate or a 1st round pick...no way in hell we giving up Lee or Balkman and still keeping Jefferies and James in the process
 08-03-2007, 07:03 PM         #868
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 Born_Loser said:
i don't see how you can say Lee won't get his minutes....he's not going to just play PF, he can play C and SF

Lee will get 6th Man Of The Year if he's healthy, from now on just call that sh*t The David Lee Award
How did he do at SF?:thumbsdow
Zach averages 35.-40 minutes. so does Curry.
Remember he shared minutes with Frye. Frye only had 26 minutes a game and he started 54-60 games I think.

Has anyone thought that sooner or later Lee will need to be a starter or that he will be in asking for alot of money in the future?

if anything, I want make more of a run at Kobe with a package of Crawford, Randolph, and Nate.
 9 years ago '06        #869
DRuNk 24/7 6 heat pts
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 cpalmer1 said:
How did he do at SF?:thumbsdow
Zach averages 35.-40 minutes. so does Curry.
Remember he shared minutes with Frye. Frye only had 26 minutes a game and he started 54-60 games I think.

Has anyone thought that sooner or later Lee will need to be a starter or that he will be in asking for alot of money in the future?

if anything, I want make more of a run at Kobe with a package of Crawford, Randolph, and Nate.
co-signs.....


i still believe the knicks should try to pursue bryant....

cant stand that mutha phucka but he is what this team is lacking...a CONSISTANT sg

i luv JC, but he too streaky for me....i agree whole-heartedly wit the zach randolf deal (for how lil we gave up) but i still feel he dont play enuff D along side curry, and that the idea of a double post offense isnt gunna be as effective as if we spread the floor and dumped to curry underneath.....

wit that said....if there were a way to package NATE, Randolf, Crawford and even 2 first round picks...i think that is more than enough value to land bryant in his prime

we solid in our future where we dont neccisarily need those draft picks wit Lee, Balkman, Collins, Morris, Chandler and Nicols.....so why not do it isiah?...pull the fukin trigger
 9 years ago '06        #870
DRuNk 24/7 6 heat pts
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Marbs/Collins
Bryant/Q-Rich
Balkman/Chandler/Nicols
Lee/Jefferies
Curry/Morris/James
 9 years ago '07        #871
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Knicks might make the playoffs-semi finals
 9 years ago '07        #872
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I say fu*k going to get ron unless kobe is 100% untouchable we need to try that randolph move I believe they don't want to leave phil out there with out the best player in the league and would probably deal kobe if phil decides to leave...the lakers are being d*cks about the situation...he doesn't want to be there let em go and don't hold him hostage until theres one year left on his contract to ship him outta there

 DRuNk 24/7 said:
co-signs.....


i still believe the knicks should try to pursue bryant....

cant stand that mutha phucka but he is what this team is lacking...a CONSISTANT sg

i luv JC, but he too streaky for me....i agree whole-heartedly wit the zach randolf deal (for how lil we gave up) but i still feel he dont play enuff D along side curry, and that the idea of a double post offense isnt gunna be as effective as if we spread the floor and dumped to curry underneath.....

wit that said....if there were a way to package NATE, Randolf, Crawford and even 2 first round picks...i think that is more than enough value to land bryant in his prime

we solid in our future where we dont neccisarily need those draft picks wit Lee, Balkman, Collins, Morris, Chandler and Nicols.....so why not do it isiah?...pull the fukin trigger
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 08-08-2007, 07:56 PM         #873
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Congrads David Lee for making the Usa Basketball Team
 08-08-2007, 08:03 PM         #874
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Jefferies , Rose & James ... need to be out of there.. if the lakers give up kobe they want a whole new team thats going to be good for the City of LA
they are going to want atleast 5 players for kobe.. and you think they not going to want david lee , nate , crawford , look at this from La side.. would you give up kobe for some 3 players and some first round picks? hell no. this is confusing its hard to even look at it.. i agree but maybe i just dont want kobe i cant see knicks pulling a celtics .. celtics will be hurting.. cause they have no bench we need to be a good team all around..
 9 years ago '06        #875
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August 11, 2007 - 2:18 pm

Daily Southtown -

NBA stars Eddy Curry and Antoine Walker were the targets of the same crew of armed robbers who scoped out their luxury homes to plan last month's headline-grabbing strong-arm robberies, police said Friday.

Four reputed members of the Traveling Vice Lords street gang have been charged in the Walker robbery, and two of the four have been charged in the July 28 Curry robbery, police officials said.

Walker, a Mount Carmel graduate who now plays for the Miami Heat , said Friday he didn't know any of the men accused of breaking into his $4 million River North home on July 9, binding him with duct tape and robbing him of $200,000 in cash and jewelry.

"I don't know anybody,'' Walker said at a City Hall news conference where he announced a charity basketball game scheduled for Sunday. "But I feel comfortable. I feel happy they have someone in custody and hopefully we can get them off the street."
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 9 years ago '07        #876
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new york, new york, the city of dreamz! once again you got achampionship team on paper! Two nice post players, one good point, good role players, budding stars. Unlike last year, expectations are high this year. like last year, your lottery bound in a week east. Good luck new york!
 08-14-2007, 01:53 AM         #877
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We can only hope and expect this team to step it up and make the playoffs.
 9 years ago '04        #878
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ok we are still over the limit need to do somthing....what about this? get Udonis Haslem for fred jones jefferies and robinson waive dan d and sign houston send nicoles to europe for a yr and then we have all our players

marbury/collins
crawford/houston
q/balkman/chanlder
zach/lee/rose
curry/Udonis Haslem

what yall think??
 9 years ago '04        #879
pissin-on-game 
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oh peep this out

 9 years ago '06        #880
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interesting read on q-rich from knickbloggers

*props to slang711 off the realgm site who brought this to my attention*



Knicks 2007 Report Card (A to Z): Quentin Richardson
August 20th, 2007 by Mike K. (KnickerBlogger) | Comments | permalink | trackback |



KnickerBlogger: By the numbers, Quentin Richardson’s 2007 season wasn’t all that bad, especially when compared to his 2006 season. Richardson’s rebirth seems to be based on two stats: his rebounding and shooting percentages. Richardson posted the highest per-minute rebounding average of his career (8.7 REB/40), solely due to an increase in his defensive rebounds (7.1 DREB/40). This made him the Knicks third best rebounder last year, which is impressive for a 6-6 swingman. Additionally Richardson had his best shooting season as well. His eFG (50.7%) and TS% (53.2%) were the highest of his career, and his three point percentage (37.6%) was his second best. Quentin lacks the foot speed to beat opponents to the hoop, but he compliments his outside shooting with a post up game. Therefore Richardson doesn’t get a lot of free throws (3.0 FTA/40), and the few he gets aren’t converted at a high rate (69.2% FT%). To the eye Richardson is an average defender, and the Knicks were 1.8 points worse with him on the court. Although the +/- data may be due to the exploits of Renaldo Balkman being a fantastic defensive reserve, Richardson doesn’t look to be better than a solid defender.

Unfortunately there is one more stat of Richardson’s that catches the eye: games played. Over the last 5 years Richardson has surpassed 70 games just once, and as a Knick he has missed 60 games in 2 years. Richardson’s balky back shut him down in mid March. One thing that may have contributed to Richardson’s breakdown is the heavy minutes he played. Quentin averaged 33.1 minutes per game, which may be more than his body can tolerate.

KnickerBlogger’s Grade: Omitting Injury B, Considering Injury C

2008 Outlook: There are two issues to consider with Richardson going into 2008. The first is which position will he play? Let’s a.ssume the Knicks keep Chandler, jettison Fred Jones, and stash Nichols in Europe. The Knicks are likely to have a surplus of small forwards and a dearth of shooting guards. If you take Richardson out of the equation at small forward you can easily divide 48 minutes by Renaldo Balkman, Wilson Chandler, Jared Jeffries, and David Lee. The Knicks will be fine at small forward without Richardson. Shooting guard is another story. The depth chart is Jamal Crawford, Nate Robinson, and occasionally Marbury (assuming that Collins would play the point on offense with any other Knick guard). Even if the Knicks kept Fred Jones, there still isn’t quality depth there. So it makes sense to have Richardson primarily at shooting guard, instead of small forward. Which brings us to our next issue: How many minutes should Richardson play? Considering how much time he has missed, the Knicks would be smart to use the McDyess strategy with Richardson. That is play him sparingly between 20-24 minutes a game. If you took Richardson’s 1621 minutes last year & divided that among 82 games, you’d get 19.8 min/g. I’d much rather have Richardson available for 20 minutes a night for the entire season than have him miss 30+ games.

If you combine the two, Richardson should start the season as the backup shooting guard. In a way this makes a lot of sense. First, moving Richardson to guard will make Balkman the starter at forward. Balkman exceeded expectations last year and had an eye-popping summer league. Stat heads like Balkman due to his phenomenal non-shooting stats, while the casual fans relate to his underdog draft status combined with his blue collar game. Second, putting Q’s name on the shooting guard’s depth chart will drive youngsters like Crawford and Robinson to play better. Isiah can quickly substitute in Richardson for some “veteran leadership” when Crawford launches his patented “22 foot crossover off-balance jumper” or when Nate Robinson decides to play 1 on 5. Richardson’s no nonsense game can be instructional for the two neophytes.

Third, the risk to overplay Richardson will decrease if he’s coming off the pine. If Richardson starts, the temptation will be too great to play him major minutes. Fewer minutes will keep Quentin fresh and ideally, available for a majority of the season. Taught to be tough and confident at every level, most professional athletes don’t like to take a reduced role even to benefit their own health. Being a “player’s coach” Isiah should be able to sell this concept to Richardson. To the public Quentin would be seen as the veteran selflessly sacrificing his personal stats for the good of the team. But behind the cameras Isiah can tell Richardson that this move will allow him to avoid the crippling injuries that an overused and oft-injured professional athlete will suffer in their twilight years.

Dave Crockett: Add to all the stuff KB notes statistically that Q-Rich is easily the Knick least likely to do something stupid with the ball. As much as anything it was comforting to know that the worst you would get from Richardson is a forced shot, and even then he was as likely to run down his own miss as anyone save Lee and Balkman. In the Richardson report card KB gets at precisely what I think is the most critical dilemma facing the team (given its current construction) heading into the 07-08 season. The shooting guard situation is a real concern. Q-Rich has bolted past that point of no return where his usefulness is now largely a function of how his minutes are managed. Given what he brings to the table Q-Rich is probably most valuable playing alongside the other projected starters, particularly if paired with Balkman to allow for defensive cross-switches. But, as KB points out, Richardson would breakdown quickly on starter’s minutes so it makes sense in the abstract to bring him off the bench.

The not-so-abstract downside to benching Richardson is to weaken the starting unit considerably. Jamal Crawford, a worse defender, presumably supplants Q-Rich as the backcourt starter alongside Marbury. This leaves the Knicks (to my mind) overly-dependent on his ability to mature into a reliable starter. I should note that I’m a Crawford fan. I enjoy watching him play as much or more than any Knick but he is clearly not the kind of starting shooting guard this team needs (i.e., a decent defender with a low turnover rate, moderate usage rate, and a good 3pt shooter). Crawford is far better suited to an “instant offense” role coming off the bench and left on a short leash.

It’s unclear how concerned the brass is about the shooting guard situation. Unfortunately, even if they did the Knicks lack clear in-house options to alleviate such concerns (though I’d not rule out the possibility that Nichols might develop into a real option). Additionally, when Reggie Miller and Allan Houston are making comeback overtures that are drawing legitimate interest it’s safe to say the market lacks attractive options.


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