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 5 years ago '04        #8661
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Frank Isola

Mike Woodson’s relationship with Larry Brown didn’t prevent the Knicks from hiring Woodson last summer.

But in order to keep the Knicks head coaching job, Woodson has distanced himself from the Hall of Fame coach at the urging of Madison Square Garden management.

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Woodson’s contract negotiations with the Knicks began last week when the interim head coach decided to fire his agent, Joe Glass, who also represents Brown, the Daily News has learned.

For five years and up until last Friday, Woodson had been represented by Glass, who negotiated Brown’s five-year, $50 million contract with the Knicks in the summer of 2005.

Brown spent one tumultuous season as Knicks head coach before Garden Chairman James Dolan fired him for cause. The ugly divorce ended with the two sides reaching a settlement in Oct. 2006 where Brown received $18.5 million payout. The bitterness from that break-up apparently still exists since, according to a source, Woodson was advised that it would be in his best interests to change agents.

A person close to Woodson denies that the Garden influenced his decision, saying only that Woodson felt changing representation would a.ssure of him of signing a long-term deal with the club.

Glass, 87, is in declining health and was unavailable for comment. His son, Keith, spoke on behalf of the Glass family when he said: “Hey, Mike deserves the job. I’m trying to take the high road and I won’t be asking anyone at the Garden for directions.”

Joe's son, Keith Glass, negotiated Woodson’s deal to join the Knicks last summer as an a.ssistant coach and worked with Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald to restructure Woodson’s deal once he replaced Mike D’Antoni as head coach in March.

Woodson is believed to be close to signing with CAA, whose list of coaching clients include the Bulls' Tom Thibodeau and Kentucky’s John Calipari. CAA also represents Carmelo Anthony, who has endorsed the re-signing of Woodson.

The News reported on Tuesday that Woodson has entered into negotiations with the Knicks to sign a contract extension. Woodson denied the story despite having already informed the Glass family of his decision to change representation.

Woodson is in an awkward position because of his close ties both Brown and Thomas, who haven’t been on speaking terms since Brown was fired after the team went 23-59 and management accused Brown of violating MSG policies. Woodson worked for Brown in both Philadelphia and Detroit and the two speak regularly.

Woodson also has a long history with Thomas, his former teammate at Indiana University. Grunwald was also a teammate at Indiana. Thomas and Grunwald recruited Woodson to the Knicks to join D’Antoni’s staff and convinced Dolan that Woodson would be a good hire.

When Dolan removed the interim tag from Grunwald’s title in April it was clear that Woodson was the leading candidate to remain as coach. Phil Jackson was never seriously considered because the club feels that because of his age and health concerns, Jackson wouldn’t be committed to the job.
 5 years ago '04        #8662
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"Stoudemire's remarks that Woodson is the first coach to ask him to develop a low-post game next season is not shocking, though it should be. He played for D'Antoni - and Gentry - for most most of his career and didn't play in college. Stoudemire's mid-range game and rolls to bucket got him points. Still, it is stunning a veteran 6-10 player who isn't a 3-point shooter wouldn't think to work on his low-post game, especially after knee surgery. Biggest admission he's lost his explosiveness. "
 5 years ago '04        #8663
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Stephen A. Smith

Now that the season is over and sheer speculation and prognostications have finally been supplanted by real, undeniable results, it's safe to express the obvious about these New York Knicks:

They simply are not elite.

They are a one-man team on offense (Carmelo Anthony). They were a one-man team on defense (Tyson Chandler) the minute rookie Iman Shumpert went down with a knee injury. Amare Stoudemire is often injured and many have lost patience with him. Jeremy Lin was too busy making fashion statements to play a playoff game at "85 percent." And the coaches can't tell if they are lame ducks (due to Phil Jackson) or about to be rewarded with multiyear deals.

"I'm personally very disappointed," Chandler said after a Game 5 in Miami that sent the Knicks home for the summer. "It's unacceptable to me. I didn't come here to lose in the first round and I don't plan on doing this in the future."

So where do the Knicks go from here?

We all know some folks need to go.

Only the stupid among Knicks fans believes it should be Melo. A career 24-points-per-game scorer capable of dribbling, shooting and creating his own shot from anywhere doesn't deserve to be shipped out of town for losing to the reigning conference champions.

"You got someone else you think is on Melo's level as a talent in this league?" one Eastern Conference executive asked rhetorically. "We all know better."

What we don't know is who will be available to a.ssist Melo in taking the Knicks to heights unknown for the last decade, not to mention a championship that has alluded this franchise since 1973. And this postseason did little to help us out.

Despite Chandler's greatness as a defender and emotional leader, he's sorely lacking offensively. "I definitely have to work on that this offseason," he said.

Then there's the issue of point guard. Lin will look to capitalize off being a restricted free agent; how much will the Knicks need to pay to keep him? Will it be as a starter? And will it happen at the expense of getting their hands on a Steve Nash or Goran Dragic?

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It's clear some thought needs to be put into Landry Fields, who continues to be a no-show every time the month of April rolls around. J.R. Smith has already tweeted he may not elect to come back because New Yorkers had the temerity to be upset with consecutive 3-for-15 shooting performances along with 31 percent shooting from the field in the playoffs.

The marksman, Steve Novak, refused to shoot in the playoffs if a fingernail was in his face. Mike Bibby just looks as if he's aged. No one knows if Shumpert will ever fully recover. Baron Davis' career might be over after his Game 4 knee injury. And, unavoidably, the Knicks must do something about Stoudemire.

"It was a difficult season for a lot of reasons," said Stoudemire, who finished with more fouls (six) and turnovers (five) than rebounds (four) in the decisive Game 5. "I've got to do better. I know that."

Actually, he's got to get better health-wise. No one knows if he will. All anyone knows is that he is owed $64 million over the next three years and that the Knicks will probably be unsuccessful if they try to trade him.

"We'll figure it out," Chandler said. "We have to. It's not like we really have a choice."

Evidently, he doesn't know the Knicks.
 5 years ago '04        #8664
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Marc Berman

When interim coach Mike Woodson stopped short of anointing Jeremy Lin the Knicks’ starting point guard for next season, he did so with a reason. The Knicks have eyes on landing a veteran point guard to share the load and do not want to close the door on any point-guard recruits.

The Knicks have their list of capable point guards to pursue in free agency, which begins July 1, either for the veteran’s minimum at about $1.4 million or their lower exception of $2 million. Their $5 million mid-level exception is expected to go to Lin, 24, who not only adds another dimension to Woodson’s sickly playoff offense but adds a boatload of cash to owner James Dolan’s coffers.

Some of the cheaper veteran free agents include Derek Fisher, Gary Neal, Kirk Hinrich, Ramon Sessions and even ex-Knick Raymond Felton. The Knicks are helped because the market for mid-tier players is suppressed by the new collective bargaining agreement, and most teams already have their starting point guard.

Other young free-agent point guards include Amityville’s A.J. Price, Jannero Pargo and former Syracuse star Jonny Flynn, whom the Knicks staff likes. Goran Dragic and Steve Nash are out of reach, and Andre Miller and Jameer Nelson also appear pie-in-the-sky.

The Knicks want to build around Linsanity. General manager Glen Grunwald does not believe the Knicks’ 8-1 February run with Lin at the controls was a fluke. But management has questions as Lin rehabs from last month’s left knee surgery, starting with: Will he be durable enough to last a full 82-game schedule as a starter, especially given his style of barreling into the paint?

Jared Jeffries, in his weekly appearance on ESPN radio Friday, said he feels Lin is the answer to lead the Amar’e Stoudemire-Carmelo Anthony Knicks.

“We’ve got to have a point guard,’’ Jeffries said. “I think that a point guard that demands the respect of both of them [Stoudemire and Anthony] will do a lot better. I think the big key is for Jeremy to take the next step as a point guard. He has to command the ball, have control of the offense and get guys in the right spot.

“I have in full confidence in Jeremy [being the leader] because a guy that plays as hard as he does, understands the game the way he does, you can’t help but follow his example.’’

In his exit meeting, J.R. Smith, who may exercise a player option in his contract for next season, was told by Woodson to work on his point-guard skills because the Knicks could use him in a backup spot.

“My defense is my No. 1 emphasis in my game,’’ Smith said. “Secondly, being a combo guard. Hopefully it won’t come down to that next year, but I will work on the point-guard skills, keep being a better ball-handler and watching a lot of film.’’

Though Toney Douglas is signed through next season, he is in Woodson’s doghouse and viewed as more of a shooting guard. Re-signing Mike Bibby, a Woodson favorite, is also possible as point-guard insurance.

Lin said he still has a slew of areas to work on. He told The Post he will pass on playing in the Las Vegas Summer League but would accept an invitation to the Select Team practicing against Team USA during its Olympic training camp in Las Vegas.

“I don’t think I’ve mastered anything,’’ Lin said. “Becoming more explosive, the catch-and-shoot, passing, limiting turnovers, reading the game, getting stronger, defense. That’s the good thing of this season. I’ve had struggles to know how much further I have to go.’’

The Knicks won’t have combo guard Iman Shumpert (torn ACL) to start training camp, so re-signing Landry Fields looks to be a lock. Fields forms a good tandem with his buddy Lin. Because Fields has early Bird rights, the Knicks don’t need an exception to bring him back.

“I would love to,’’ Fields said. “With the character we have, the players and coaching staff we have, the organization is on the way up. I want to be part of it.’’

Especially if they lose sharpshooter Steve Novak, the Knicks will consider bringing back swingman Bill Walker, the starting small forward during much of the Linsanity run. Walker was cut by Grunwald in April to make room for center Dan Gadzuric, who was not in NBA condition.

Jeffries, also a free agent who wants to return despite chronic knee pain, said the Knicks should add “a young, athletic 3 that can come in and give Melo a break.’’
 5 years ago '04        #8665
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Berman

The Players a.ssociation filed for an arbitration hearing yesterday to f!ght a loophole in the new collective bargaining agreement that could give the Knicks a lot more flexibility to re-sign Jeremy Lin while preserving their $5 million mid-level exception.

That mid-level exception could be used to net a very capable point-guard counterpart — even Steve Nash — and change the landscape of the Knicks’ summer.

In what could become known as “The Linsanity Rule,’’ the union will legally challenge a bylaw in which a player claimed off waivers loses his Bird rights. Lin was claimed off waivers by the Knicks in late December from the Rockets after previously being waived by the Warriors, who owned Lin’s Bird rights. Steve Novak also was claimed off waivers.

Under the status quo, the Knicks plan to use their $5 million mid-level exception to re-sign Lin, giving them very little salary-cap room to add another solid point guard.

If the Knicks retain their $5M mid-level exception while re-signing Lin as a Bird-rights player, they would be in the market for Nash, Andre Miller, Jason Kidd, Jameer Nelson and Goran Dragic. Nash seems a reach for $5 million after leading the NBA in a.ssists and with the Suns ready to bowl him over with a more lucrative offer.

The union will argue a player who is traded still keeps his Bird rights, so one claimed off waivers should as well.

“It’s more than ambigious,’’ union lead attorney Ron Klempner told The Post. “We believe a player claimed is no different than a player traded.’’

Novak is in a similar boat. The Knicks probably would be outbid if they offered Novak their lower exception of $2 million. The union claims there never has been a case in which a player was claimed and found himself in a situation of seeking more than the minimum in free agency. The union is f!ghting the battle mostly because of the Knicks’ unprecedented situation, although there are other players in a similar situation.

Interim coach Mike Woodson said Lin would return, but does not want to commit to him as the starter with eyes on adding a veteran. If they only have their $2 million exception, Raymond Felton, Derek Fisher and Gary Neal may be their best options.

Lin, meanwhile, got his wish of being named to the U.S. Select Team that will scrimmage against the U.S. Olympic Team in July in Las Vegas.
 5 years ago '04        #8666
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The ability to keep this deep Knicks roster intact is riding on a decision that will be made by an independent arbitrator in June. Though this is technically an NBA Players a.ssociation vs. NBA argument, the result will have a direct and dramatic impact on the Knicks more than any other team.

On Tuesday, Howard Beck wrote an extensive piece in the New York Times outlining how the players union is seeking arbitration to challenge a ruling on Bird Rights for players claimed on waivers.

This is a rare case, one that has people I spoke to on both sides of the argument, plus several NBA executives and agents, equally fascinated and curious. Generally, players claimed on waivers are of little significance to the teams that claim them mainly because they are usually fringe players who are either not re-signed or re-signed at an affordable price.

But leave it to Linsanity to create yet another unprecedented situation in the NBA.

It was during Jeremy Lin's remarkable emergence from 15th man to stardom in February when the debate began about Lin's contract status. He was in the second year of a two-year deal he signed with the Golden State Warriors, but had been twice waived and, subsequently, twice claimed.

Collective bargaining agreement experts, such as Larry ****, proclaimed that Lin would still be a restricted free agent, but one without "Early Bird Rights," which are given to a player who is two years into the same contract. Therefore, Lin could only be re-signed by the capped-out Knicks by using their Mid-Level Exception.

That would severely limit the team's ability to sign other players and improve a roster that has six players headed to free agency. If another team signed Lin to an offer sheet for the full MLE ($5 million per season for a maximum of four years), the Knicks would be faced with signing Lin and having only the Bi-Annual Exception ($1.9 million) and veteran's minimums left to fill out the roster, or losing the 23-year-old wunderkind for nothing.

"Bird Rights" were established to protect teams, especially those over the salary cap, from losing their own star players to teams that can offer more money. A three-year waiting period was created in 1995, which spawned the call for "Early Bird Rights" which were created to allow capped-out teams to re-sign their own free agents after just two years under contract. However, with Early Birds, the team is limited to offering the player a maximum of the league average.

According to the CBA, a player's "Bird Rights" go with him when he is traded from team-to-team. But there is nothing in the document that indicates whether rights also transfer when a player is claimed on waivers.

The NBPA contends that the rights should transfer, because the contract remains intact, therefore the player's "clock" does not re-set. If, for instance, Lin cleared waivers and became a free agent -- such as when Jared Jeffries was waived by the Rockets in March 2011 and signed with the Knicks -- then the Bird Rights clock resets to zero.

But since Lin was claimed off waivers and the Knicks inherited his contract from the Rockets, the union believes his Bird Rights went with the contract just like it does in a trade. Essentially, to claim a player off waivers is like acquiring his contract for nothing.

The NBA's argument is that the Bird Rights rules are specifically defined in the CBA and cannot be debated.

That, however, will be up to an independent arbiter to decide. The union has asked that the process be expedited so a decision can be announced before free agency begins on July 1. It behooves the NBA to want to accelerate the process as well, because it could cause unnecessary problems during the free agency period.

This does not only impact Lin, but another important Knicks free agent, Steve Novak, who was in the second year of his contract after the team claimed him off waivers from the San Antonio Spurs.

If the union wins this argument, two other NBA players, and their respective teams, may benefit, including J.J. Hickson (Portland Trail Blazers) and Chauncey Billups (Los Angeles Clippers). But no one wins bigger than Lin, Novak and the Knicks, who could re-sign both players to a maximum of the league average (about $5.7 million, though it is doubtful Novak would command that much) and still have the MLE and BAE to spend to attract a free agents to upgrade the roster.

Now, before all of you CBA experts get into a lather, there are still other restrictions (aprons, cap holds, etc.) that will make things challenging for GM Glen Grunwald and his staff, but there's no question that it makes things astronomically better for the Knicks if the arbitration results in favor of the players.

So while the season may be over, there is still one more win the Knicks need before the summer.
 5 years ago '04        #8667
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"Are the #Knicks ready to sign their prospect, Greek forward Georgios Printezis, who hit the game-winning floater to win the Euroleague for Olympiacos? It's complicated, specifically because he's on the Greek National Team competing in July in the qualifier and favorites to advance to London. He's also set to make big money from deep-pocketed Olympiacos. They see him as a bonafide backup PG'
 5 years ago '04        #8668
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AL IANNAZZONE

The Knicks officially are expected to remove the interim label from Mike Woodson's title this week, according to multiple sources. The two sides are working on a long-term deal, the sources said, and something could be done within the next couple of days.

The Knicks were 18-6 under Woodson in the regular season after going 18-24 under Mike D'Antoni, who resigned March 14. They made the playoffs for the second straight season, losing to the Heat, four games to one.

There was speculation throughout the season that the Knicks would pursue Phil Jackson or John Calipari as their next coach.

Woodson, who had discussions about a contract extension with Knicks management during the playoffs, received strong endorsements from general manager and former Indiana University teammate Glen Grunwald toward the end of the season. Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler all backed Woodson's return.

Woodson, who was drafted by the Knicks with the 12th pick in 1980, won an NBA title as an a.ssistant coach on Larry Brown's staff with the 2004 Pistons. The next season, Woodson became head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.

He spent six years with Atlanta and reached the playoffs the last three years there, and the second round twice. The Hawks went 53-29 in 2009-10, Woodson's last season in Atlanta. His career record is 224-292 and 12-22 in the playoffs.
 5 years ago '04        #8669
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 Born_Loser said:
AL IANNAZZONE

The Knicks officially are expected to remove the interim label from Mike Woodson's title this week, according to multiple sources. The two sides are working on a long-term deal, the sources said, and something could be done within the next couple of days.

The Knicks were 18-6 under Woodson in the regular season after going 18-24 under Mike D'Antoni, who resigned March 14. They made the playoffs for the second straight season, losing to the Heat, four games to one.

There was speculation throughout the season that the Knicks would pursue Phil Jackson or John Calipari as their next coach.

Woodson, who had discussions about a contract extension with Knicks management during the playoffs, received strong endorsements from general manager and former Indiana University teammate Glen Grunwald toward the end of the season. Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler all backed Woodson's return.

Woodson, who was drafted by the Knicks with the 12th pick in 1980, won an NBA title as an a.ssistant coach on Larry Brown's staff with the 2004 Pistons. The next season, Woodson became head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.

He spent six years with Atlanta and reached the playoffs the last three years there, and the second round twice. The Hawks went 53-29 in 2009-10, Woodson's last season in Atlanta. His career record is 224-292 and 12-22 in the playoffs.
i think he deserves it
 5 years ago '04        #8670
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Berman

"#Knicks will work out Syracuse's PG Scoop Jardine tomorrow in Westchester. The Long Island kid, Tu Holloway, also will be there."

"Other players tomorrow include Kris Middleton of Texas A & M, Temple C Michael Eric, Florida State's Bernard James (FSU)."

will start doing my homework later this week
 5 years ago '10        #8671
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 Born_Loser said:
AL IANNAZZONE

The Knicks officially are expected to remove the interim label from Mike Woodson's title this week, according to multiple sources. The two sides are working on a long-term deal, the sources said, and something could be done within the next couple of days.

The Knicks were 18-6 under Woodson in the regular season after going 18-24 under Mike D'Antoni, who resigned March 14. They made the playoffs for the second straight season, losing to the Heat, four games to one.

There was speculation throughout the season that the Knicks would pursue Phil Jackson or John Calipari as their next coach.

Woodson, who had discussions about a contract extension with Knicks management during the playoffs, received strong endorsements from general manager and former Indiana University teammate Glen Grunwald toward the end of the season. Carmelo Anthony, Amar'e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler all backed Woodson's return.

Woodson, who was drafted by the Knicks with the 12th pick in 1980, won an NBA title as an a.ssistant coach on Larry Brown's staff with the 2004 Pistons. The next season, Woodson became head coach of the Atlanta Hawks.

He spent six years with Atlanta and reached the playoffs the last three years there, and the second round twice. The Hawks went 53-29 in 2009-10, Woodson's last season in Atlanta. His career record is 224-292 and 12-22 in the playoffs.


Good......now they have to go and retool the roster.


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Berman

"#Knicks will work out Syracuse's PG Scoop Jardine tomorrow in Westchester. The Long Island kid, Tu Holloway, also will be there."

"Other players tomorrow include Kris Middleton of Texas A & M, Temple C Michael Eric, Florida State's Bernard James (FSU)."

will start doing my homework later this week
I don't watch CBB but I remember hearing Scoop Jardines name occasionally.How is he?
 5 years ago '04        #8672
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out of that bunch, according to reports he's the best one
 5 years ago '04        #8673
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Shumpert makes NYK history with Fields

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"Landry Fields and Iman Shumpert are first back-to-back All-Rookie selections for #Knicks since Mark Jackson/Rod Strickland in '88 and '89.'
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tomorrow's workout group

• Scott Machado, G, 6-1, 180, Iona, Senior

• Oscar Bellfield, G, 6-2, 190, Las Vegas-Nevada, Senior

• Darius Johnson-Odom, G, 6-2, 215, Marquette, Senior

• Bradford Burgess, G/F, 6-6, 225, Virginia Commonwealth, Senior

• Carmeron Moore, F, 6-10, 230, Alabama at Birmingham, Senior

• Miles Plumlee, F, 6-10, 245, Duke, Senior

Machado is the dude alot of the online Knick fans really want
 5 years ago '04        #8675
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disrespect continues


Tyson Chandler aka the defensive player of the year is in the NBA All-Defensive SECOND Team

Shumpert missed getting in the second team by 4 points
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Berman

"For good luck, Scoop Jardine placed his belongings by Jeremy Lin's locker in Westchester before his workout. Scoop said delivering passes to fellow Syracuse standout Carmelo Anthony would be "the easiest job in the world.'' Says Melo texted him often this season as Syracuse soared atop rankings. Hoping #Knicks pick him at 48 and feels did real well in his matchup with Tu Holloway today."
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Scott Machado, a 6-foot-1 point guard, sees himself as a good fit for the Knicks.

"For any point guard that wants to play here, I feel like it's a good opportunity," Machado said. "They got some players that are banged up, hurt or some players that are retiring or old.

"As far as the opportunity here, it's a wonderful spot, they have a lot of pieces. Somewhere they need to grow solid in is the point guard spot. That's my opinion. I feel like it's a good opportunity for any point guard."

Machado led the nation in a.ssists as a senior at Iona, a small Division I school located in New Rochelle, NY.

"It would be a wonderful feeling to be able to stay home," Machado said.
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first dude i looked into was Darius Johnson-Odom....if we end up with a second 2nd round pick i would have no problem with him....biggest concern is that he's like another Douglas and Nate though, a short 2 guard
 5 years ago '10        #8679
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Scoop Jardine, Scott Machado, Darius Johnson-Odom.....

Looks like I got some HW to do on those players. I know on RealGM they're in love with Scoop but I really doubt he falls into our spot. Darius is a player I'm very intrigued by though.
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Tuesday's workout group

Dee Bost, G, 6-2, 176, Mississippi State, Senior
• J’Covan Brown, G, 6-1, 197, Texas, Junior
• Yancy Gates, F, 6-9, 260, Cincinnati, Senior
• Troy Gillenwater, F, 6-8, 234, New Mexico State
• Robert Sacre, C, 7-0, 260, Gonzaga, Senior
• Wesley Witherspoon, G/F, 6-9, 207, Memphis, Senior
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