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 6 years ago '08        #8401
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Bubba>>>Melo
 6 years ago '04        #8402
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Brand > ButterfingAma're
 6 years ago '10        #8403
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Other than Chandler there isn't any type of leader on this squad.


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 6 years ago '07        #8404
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amare is just a bum, idk what lins excuse is, melo?

fu*k
 6 years ago '07        #8405
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i didn't watch the game vs the sixers but i kinda already know how they lost

 6 years ago '04        #8406
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 Blkboipurp said:
Other than Chandler there isn't any type of leader on this squad.
which is fu*king sad and why i'm becoming a bigger fan of this guy. this n*gga is beat the fu*k up and still shows my heart than anyone
 6 years ago '04        #8407
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 6 years ago '10        #8408
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 Born_Loser said:
which is fu*king sad and why i'm becoming a bigger fan of this guy. this n*gga is beat the fu*k up and still shows my heart than anyone
Yea dude is well worth his contract.Plays his a.ss off every night and even when he's on the bench he's standing and tryna help them out.Ama_e looks like a lost puppy out there and sh!t and look at this...


Looked further into it. #Knicks have been outscored 161-109 in the 3rd quarter since the All-Star break. (@TommyDeeTKB)
Teams make adjustments out of halftime,I wonder why the Knicks can't do the same..oh wait....
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 6 years ago '04        #8410
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By Ian O'Connor

Mike D'Antoni might not make it to Phil Jackson's yes or no in June. If the New York Knicks keep quitting on their coach and their fans like they did Sunday, then D'Antoni's aide, Mike Woodson, needs to move down a seat or two in the coming days and see if he can do any better.

Of course, it would be hard for Woodson or anyone else to do worse. Even Isiah Thomas or Larry Brown, circa 2006, might've inspired better effort and results out of these Knicks than the man who claimed they had championship fiber long before he handed the ball to Jeremy Lin.

In the sobering wake of Linsanity, the Knicks are coming across as a barely interested group of high-profile players waiting for management to make a move. During the third quarter Sunday, when you never could've convinced a novice observer that D'Antoni had twice the talent on his roster that Doug Collins had on his, the Knicks surrendered 38 points and spotted the Philadelphia 76ers a 21-point lead.

So in the dying seconds of Sixers 106, Knicks 94, D'Antoni's fifth consecutive defeat, the fans in the Garden's upper bowl responded with a predictable chant for the coach's head. No, it wasn't one of those full-throttle Isiah chants, but it didn't much matter.

In the postgame news conference, D'Antoni unwittingly began building a case for his own removal. Questioned about the team's defensive and offensive struggles, he said, "It's probably spirit more." D'Antoni conceded that his team "seemed to wither" in the face of adversity and that it treated a two-point deficit as if "the world was caving in."

"We've got to play harder," D'Antoni said, "play with much more urgency."

When a deep and talented team withers and caves and plays indifferent basketball, the coach has to take the hit. It's why he makes a $6 million wage.

"Our whole energy is low," Carmelo Anthony said, and there was no point in blaming the noon start time and the loss of a precious hour of sleep. The Sixers were playing at 11 a.m. on their body clocks, too, and their biorhythms appeared in perfect sync.

On Selection Sunday, the visitors arrived in the Garden as an intriguing mid-major, an overachieving team that has clawed its way into first place in the Atlantic. If the Sixers didn't match the Knicks' starpower, they sure did double up on the Knicks' desire to win.

"That's our recipe," Collins said. "I told the guys after the game that that's what we do. There's going to be teams we play against that have more talent, but we have to hope at the end of the day that our numbers make us a better team."

Right now Collins is 6˝ games better than D'Antoni, who was desperate enough to keep Anthony and Amare Stoudemire on the bench for the entire fourth quarter. The coach explained that the reserves had earned the right to stay on the floor by cutting into Philly's lead, even if that lead never dipped into single figures.

Anthony guessed that his boss was saving him for Monday night in Chicago, and he should've guessed again. D'Antoni was trying something, anything, to regain control of a team that looks the way Rex Ryan's Jets looked at the end of last season.

Anthony and Stoudemire are having their worst seasons. Jeremy Lin is no longer the attack-first, think-second point guard who became the feel-good story to end them all. Now Lin is the hesitant rookie quarterback who shot 5-for-18 against Philly and committed six turnovers against seven a.ssists.

But more than anything, the Knicks are taking the call for defensive intensity as a suggestion. They had Tyson Chandler back in the lineup, meaning they had no excuses for why the Sixers made more than half of their 79 shots.

"For whatever reason," D'Antoni said, "we don't seem to overcome any obstacles."

Again, a damning quote. His Knicks are the very worst thing you can be in the NBA: soft.

"We have to do a better job at knowing the importance of games," was the way Stoudemire put it.

Before this depressing turn of events, before the Knicks treated the Garden as just another stop on their miserable road trip, D'Antoni was asked about Philly's no-frills approach. He praised Miami for proving that physical talent and selfless instincts aren't mutually exclusive traits, and praised the Sixers for proving that team ball can make division leaders out of moderately skilled clubs.

"But there is a case, and it should always be a team game," D'Antoni said. "I think Denver made that case, a lot of people's making the case."

Denver. D'Antoni cited the team that delivered him Melo, the team that stands five games better than the Knicks.

The coach never wanted to do the Anthony deal, but it's much too late to turn back now. D'Antoni shouldn't have embarrassed Melo and Stoudemire the way he did Sunday, especially since the trimmed fourth-quarter deficit was more a function of the Sixers losing interest in a blowout than it was of the second-teamers making like the '86 Celtics.

So what now? How does D'Antoni save himself before another two or three losses put the Knicks in Woodson's hands?

He needs to remind Anthony that if Michael Jordan wasn't above playing defense, nobody's above playing defense. D'Antoni needs to order Lin to attack as fearlessly as he did before Melo's return, and then let his teammates play off that creativity and vibe. He needs to keep his rotation at nine after Jared Jeffries returns, and send J.R. Smith to the bench.

D'Antoni also needs to seriously consider moving Stoudemire to the second unit in favor of Steve Novak, in part to give his $100 million power forward some time away from Chandler, the well-meaning big who gets in his way.

On Stoudemire and Smith, D'Antoni would be coaching against the front-office grain, never an easy thing to do. But this isn't the time to worry about salaries, egos or Jim Dolan's preferences, not when D'Antoni has nothing left to lose.

Nothing except his job.
 6 years ago '07        #8411
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fire him
 6 years ago '07        #8412
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If we don't win 2-3 games this week, heads need to roll and people need to be put in check... from Dolan to Anphony to Melo to the 3rd shift janitor.. I refuse to see such a terrible season pass before my eyes
 6 years ago '08        #8413
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 6 years ago '11        #8414
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I don't know what to expect from Woodson if he takes over really...
 6 years ago '04        #8415
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 27Lives said:
I don't know what to expect from Woodson if he takes over really...
team needs somebody to (no Bosh) get up in that a.ss and wake these n*ggas up. hearing Woodson talk in interviews is like listening to Derrick Rose talk in interviews though, mad fu*king boring so unless he's different when he's coaching than naw
 6 years ago '10        #8416
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I wonder if theres a chance that Sloan would wanna coach
 6 years ago '04        #8417
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Van Gundy
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 Born_Loser said:
Van Gundy
I a.ssume you put a hit out on Dolan then
 6 years ago '04        #8419
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I a.ssume you put a hit out on Dolan then
i'm just waiting for Van GODdy to gimme the word
 6 years ago '04        #8420
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After a remarkable Jeremy Lin-led run that made them the toast of the NBA, the Knicks have lost 8 of their last 10 games. There's plenty of blame to go around, but while some within the organization are questioning superstar Carmelo Anthony, most of the fingers are being pointed at head coach Mike D'Antoni, according to several sources close to the situation.

D'Antoni, hailed as an offensive genius during his successful tenure in Phoenix, has lost the Knicks' locker room, the sources say.

"The players like Mike as a person," one source said. "They think he's a good guy. But he doesn't have the respect of the team anymore."

D'Antoni is in the last year of a four-year deal and all indications are that he will not be brought back after this season; that is, if he survives the rest of this season. The Knicks are expected to make a run at Phil Jackson, who retired from the Lakers last year with 11 NBA titles.

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But the Knicks, losers of six straight games, still have 22 games left to get through this year, and according to numerous sources close to the team, the reeling club is as dysfunctional in the locker room as it is on the court.

In addition to questioning D'Antoni, players are complaining about playing time, and confused about the offensive and defensive schemes.

It is lost on no one that the Knicks' free-fall coincides precisely with the return of Anthony. While Anthony was out with a groin injury, the Knicks won 6 of 7 games, including victories over the Los Angeles Lakers and defending champion Dallas Mavericks. With Lin leading D'Antoni's offense, the Knicks played fast and free, spacing the floor, hitting the open man, and even improving defensively.

But the day Anthony returned, the Knicks lost to the struggling New Jersey Nets, starting a sorry stretch that has washed away all the feel-good emotions of Lin's emergence and left them on the verge of missing the playoffs.

Management, the coaching staff and the players know Anthony is hurting the offense and in turn, the defensive morale, according to the sources. While D'Antoni's offense calls for Anthony to plant himself on the wing at the 3-point line, he often creeps in to his favorite spot in the floor -- the area between the elbow, the arc and the post. That k!lls the Knicks' ability to run the high pick-and-roll and ruins the spacing that is so critical to D'Antoni's offense.

"That's at the very core of our problem," one person close to the situation said. "That messes up the fluidity of the offense. Melo could do it, but he's got to trust the offense."

When Anthony first returned -- and it still appears to be the case -- Lin would bring the ball up court and try to run D'Antoni's system. When Anthony would abandon the offense, Lin would not pass him the ball, which irritated Anthony, sources said. So when Lin tried to talk to Anthony on the court, Anthony would turn his back to the point guard and tune him out. The two never had heated exchanges, though, and the players tried to come to a compromise, agreeing to run D'Antoni's system while also mixing in post-ups for Anthony.

"But it's just a mess because D'Antoni's system is not designed for that," one source said.

Despite his often poor body language, many of the players believe Anthony is trying to adjust and sincerely wants to win. He has told people close to him that he is being asked to do things he's never done, saying that throughout his career he has always had plenty of post-up opportunities and that he is uncomfortable standing on the wing spacing the floor.

"Half the team is trying to do what coach says and the other half is doing something different," one source said. "Then it spills over to the defensive end because players are (ticked) off about somebody taking a bad shot."

With Anthony sapping the energy from the offense, the players often lose their incentive to play defense. But even when he's trying to play defense, Stoudemire struggles. Having spent almost his entire career in D'Antoni's non-defensive system, Amare Stoudemire has trouble making defensive reads and rotations. Anthony knows what to do defensively, but simply refuses to do it consistently, the sources said.

Some players believe D'Antoni had the leverage to force Anthony to adjust to his system when he first returned from injury. The Knicks were rolling, showing they could win without Anthony, and their fan base was believing in D'Antoni's system. If D'Antoni had checked Anthony, perhaps even benching him, when he strayed from the offense, the players and fans would have been behind the coach and Anthony would have had no choice but to conform. But D'Antoni, ever the one to avoid confrontation with his players, would not do it, and now it's too late. That's when he lost the locker room for good.

Now, the players believe they need a coach who will hold players, especially the stars like Anthony and Stoudemire, accountable, the sources said. They do not believe D'Antoni is willing or able to do it.

On top of that, Baron Davis, who just returned from a back injury, is unhappy with his limited role as Lin's backup. Davis, averaging just 17 minutes a game, has already spoken to D'Antoni about giving him more playing time, according to the sources. While Lin wants to run D'Antoni's system, Davis is more in line with running the offense through Anthony and Stoudemire, the sources said.

"The only way this is going to work is if we have a coach that will hold Melo accountable and teach Melo, Amare and Jeremy how to play winning basketball," a source said.
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