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 8 years ago '04        #7321
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its now on nba.com saying the deal is close to done

 8 years ago '07        #7322
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 8 years ago '04        #7323
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now nba.com stating deal is done
 8 years ago '07        #7324
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f**k, so basically its the same trade as originally proposed............initial reports had us keeping hill

the flexibilty for 2 max's is great but at what cost? walsh pretty much gave HOU 3 1st rounders atleast we got a point guard out of this s**t


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 8 years ago '07        #7325
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the addition of sergio is enough for me to give up hill...if we had to chose between the two id take serg all day
 8 years ago '07        #7326
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Mcgrady vs. House/Walker from earlier this season...


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Its funny now cause theyre all on the same team
 8 years ago '04        #7327
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 INF4MOUS said:
the addition of sergio is enough for me to give up hill...if we had to chose between the two id take serg all day
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Wendell Maxey

It’s been an acquisition two years in the making for the New York Knicks and has nothing to do with Tracy McGrady.

Believe it or not, it has everything to do with Sergio Rodriguez.

Ever since arriving in New York, head coach Mike D’Antoni patiently implored Donnie Walsh to get him Sergio – a guy D’Antoni helped draft during his days in Phoenix (27th overall) before immediately trading the flashy Spanish point guard for cash that same draft day in 2006.

D’Antoni truly wanted to keep Sergio back then. The Suns ended up taking Portland’s money instead.

Now Mike finally has his man.

With the another NBA trade deadline behind us, Sergio arrives in New York along with McGrady in a three-way trade between Houston, Sacramento and the Kings. But back in 2008 – D’Antoni’s first in New York – Rodrigeuz was a wanted man and priority, even while f!ghting in Portland for minutes in Nate McMillan’s stacked backcourt which then included a since departed Steve Blake and rookie Jerryd Bayless.

According to one source close to the Knicks, New York wanted Sergio in a multiple player trade that would have included David Lee going to Portland back then. The Blazers wouldn’t bite. Discussions continued to no avail.

Sergio remained in Portland while Knick fans stomached watching Chris Duhon run the point.

A season later, representatives for Rodriguez asked that their client be traded due to a lack of playing time and the on-going conflict between Sergio and McMillan. Local and national media ran with the story of overseas reports about Sergio’s mounting frustration. Emotions came to a head that next day when McMillan printed off the story and detailed at a team practice – with paper in hand nonetheless – that if players were unhappy about their roles, that his door was always open.

On draft night the following June, Portland showed Sergio a different door.

He was traded along with the 38th pick (Jon Brockman) in the 2009 NBA Draft and cash considerations to the Sacramento Kings for the 31st pick (Jeff Pendergraph) in the draft. Basically, the Blazers paid the Kings to take Rodriguez off their hands.

While talks with the Knicks for Sergio resurfaced the weeks leading up to the ’09 draft, Portland wasn’t willing to move the one player New York also asked for in return according to multiple sources: Rudy Fernandez – another player D’Antoni helped draft, only to ship him to Portland in the 2007 NBA Draft along with James Jones.

Portland was apparently only willing to offer Sergio and Travis Outlaw. That’s when Sergio became a King.

Sacramento however admittedly had buyer’s remorse.

Back in mid-November when the Kings were in town to play Portland, a source within the Kings front office privately confessed, if management had to do it all over again, the Kings wouldn’t have done the deal for Rodriguez. They were torn between going after DeJuan Blair – who went 37th overall to the San Antonio Spurs – and getting a pile of cash, Brockman and Sergio.

Sacramento wished they had to do it all over again. Three months later, they did.

The Kings packaged Rodriguez – who was averaging 6 points and 3 a.ssists in 13 minutes per game, appearing in 39 games for the Kings - in a trade deadline deal that lands him in New York to finally be reunited with D’Antoni and the chance for Coach Mike to perhaps regain a “7 seconds or less” offense.

Who knows how long Sergio’s stay in New York will be.

But for now, he is right where he wants to be.

Right next to Mike D’Antoni.
 8 years ago '04        #7329
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When the Knicks and Bulls swapped picks in 2007, the Bulls sent a representative to the lottery because that pick was obviously going to go to the Bulls. But since the Knicks have only protected the two picks to the Rockets at No. 1 in 2011 and Nos. 1-5 in 2012, who does the NBA invite to sit in at the lottery drawing if the Knicks make the lottery in either or both seasons? The NBA established a precedent in 2003 when the Grizzlies were forced to send their first round pick to Detroit, but had a protection where they would retain the selection if it was the top overall pick. Jerry West attended and since Memphis won the second pick, it became property of the Pistons.
 8 years ago '04        #7330
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NEW YORK, February 18, 2010 – New York Knickerbockers President of Basketball Operations Donnie Walsh announced today that the team has acquired seven-time All-Star swingman Tracy McGrady from the Houston Rockets and guard Sergio Rodriguez from the Sacramento Kings, as part of a three-team trade. New York traded guard Larry Hughes to Sacramento and forwards Jordan Hill and Jared Jeffries to Houston, as well as a protected 2012 first round pick and the Rockets have the option to exchange first round draft selections in 2011. Sacramento acquired forwards Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey from Houston and Houston acquired guard Kevin Martin and forward/center Hilton Armstrong from Sacramento.

"Tracy McGrady has been one of the premiere players in our league over the past decade and we have every indication that he is healthy and committed to re-establishing himself as one of the best in our game. We also added Sergio, who should immediately help us," Walsh said. "This trade improves our position to achieve our long-term goals, while also keeping us competitive for the remainder of the season."

McGrady, 6-8, 223-pounds, has career averages of 21.9 points, 6.1 rebounds, 4.7 a.ssists and 34.4 minutes in 790 career games (640 starts) in 13 NBA seasons with Toronto, Orlando and Houston. The Bartow, FL-native has been named an NBA All-Star seven times and won back-to-back scoring titles in 2003 and 2004. He also has been named All-NBA seven times, including First Team All-NBA in 2002 and 2003. Originally selected by Toronto with the ninth overall selection in the 1997 NBA Draft out of Mount Zion Christian Academy High School in North Carolina, McGrady played his first three NBA seasons for the Raptors before being dealt to Orlando in a sign and trade deal on August 3, 2000. McGrady enjoyed four All-Star seasons with Magic while leading Orlando to three playoff appearances and also was named the NBA's Most Improved Player in 2001. He was traded to Houston following the 2003-04 campaign in a seven-player deal and has spent the last six seasons with the Rockets. In limited action this season following his return from knee surgery, McGrady has averages of 3.2 points and 7.7 minutes in six games off the bench.

Rodriguez, 6-3, 176-pounds, has career averages of 3.9 points, 2.9 a.ssists and 13.3 minutes in 258 career games (14 starts) over four NBA seasons with Portland and Sacramento. Originally drafted by Phoenix with the 27th overall selection in the 2006 NBA Draft, Rodriguez had his draft rights acquired by Portland on Jun. 26, 2006. In three seasons with Portland, Rodriguez averaged 3.6 points, 2.9 a.ssists and 12.4 minutes in 219 games. The Tenerife, Spain-native was traded by Portland along with the draft rights to Jon Brockman to Sacramento in exchange for the draft rights to Jeff Pendergraph on Jun. 25, 2009 and averaged 6.0 points, 3.1 a.ssists and 13.3 minutes in 39 games with the Kings this season.

Hughes, 6-5, 185-pounds, has averaged 14.4 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.2 a.ssists in 704 career games (507 starts) over 12 NBA seasons with Philadelphia, Golden State, Washington, Cleveland, Chicago and New York. The St. Louis, MO-native was acquired by New York on Feb. 19, 2009 from Chicago in exchange for Tim Thomas, Jerome James and Anthony Roberson. Hughes averaged 10.3 points, 3.1 rebounds and 3.0 a.ssists in 56 games with the Knicks (28 starts) over the last two seasons. Originally drafted by Philadelphia with the eighth overall pick in the 1998 NBA Draft, Hughes is averaging 9.6 points, 3.5 rebounds and 3.5 a.ssists in 31 games this season.

Jeffries, 6-11, 240-pounds, has career averages of 5.4 points and 4.4 rebounds in 492 career games (322 starts) over eight NBA seasons with Washington and New York. Originally selected by Washington with the 11th overall selection in the 2002 NBA Draft following his freshman year at Indiana, Jeffries signed with New York as a free agent on Aug. 8, 2006, and averaged 4.5 points and 4.0 rebounds in 236 games (135 starts) as a Knick.

Hill, 6-10, 235-pounds, was selected by New York with the eighth overall selection in the 2009 NBA Draft out of the University of Arizona and has averaged 4.0 points, 2.5 rebounds and 10.5 minutes in 24 games off the bench during his rookie campaign with the Knicks.


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NEW YORK, February 18, 2010 – New York Knickerbockers President of Basketball Operations Donnie Walsh announced today that the team has acquired guards Eddie House and J.R. Giddens, guard/forward Bill Walker and a future conditional second-round draft selection from the Boston Celtics in exchange for guard Nate Robinson and forward Marcus Landry.

"This trade will give our younger players the opportunity to get more quality time on the court, while also adding an additional outside shooter and two young players," Walsh said. "We thank Nate for his five seasons in New York and we wish him well."

House, 6-1, 175-pounds, has career averages of 7.6 points, 1.7 rebounds and 16.9 minutes in 643 games (30 starts) during his 10-year NBA career with Miami, L.A. Clippers, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Phoenix, New Jersey and Boston. He enjoyed his most productive season in 2005-06 under Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix, when he averaged a career-high 9.8 points in 81 games, while being a key reserve in the Suns run to the Western Conference Finals. In 50 games with Boston this season, House has averages of 7.2 points, 1.4 rebounds and 16.9 minutes per game.

Giddens, 6-5, 215-pounds has averaged 1.0 points and 3.9 minutes over 27 games (one start) in two seasons with Boston. Originally selected by Boston with the 30th overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft, Giddens is averaging 1.1 points, 1.0 rebound and 4.7 minutes in 21 games with the Celtics this season. He underwent arthroscopic left knee surgery on Feb. 2 and is currently sidelined.

Walker, 6-6, 220-pounds, has averaged 2.6 points and 6.6 minutes in 37 career games over two seasons with Boston. Originally drafted in the second round (47th overall) by the Washington Wizards in the 2008 NBA Draft following his redshirt freshman season at Kansas State, Walker was acquired by Boston for cash considerations. In eight games this season, Walker is averaging 1.0 points and 3.6 minutes per game.

Robinson, 5-9, 180-pounds has averaged 12.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 2.8 a.ssists and 24.8 minutes in 312 career games (61 starts) all with New York. In 30 games this year, Robinson is averaging 13.2 points, 2.4 rebounds, 3.7 a.ssists and 24.4 minutes per game.

Landry, 6-7, 230-pounds, was signed by New York as a free agent on Sep. 24 after going undrafted out of the University of Wisconsin. In 17 games this season with the Knicks, Landry is averaging 2.6 points, 1.1 rebounds and 6.4 minutes per game.
 02-18-2010, 07:25 PM         #7333
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Yall know how much I couldnt stand Nate Robinson. BUT. He grew on me and I wish he wasnt traded for that garbage Eddie House. and specially to Boston. I wish they gonna more for Nate. what happen to the Bulls, should of traded him for Tyrus Thomas. yes I know cap relief, but I rather him go somewhere else. watch him light the knicks up.
 8 years ago '04        #7334
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5 new players, 5 new number's: Giddens (4), House (50), McGrady (3), Rodriguez (13) & Walker (5)
 8 years ago '04        #7335
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Donnie Walsh successfully created enough cap space for two maximum contract players this summer, but did not directly reference that during Thursday's press conference.

"I thought it was a good bet, but I'm not going to limit it to just this year," said Walsh. "In other words, this puts the franchise in a position where it can build a contending team. That's what the goal was," Walsh said.

Thursday's moves shaved off another $9.5 million in previously committed 2010-11 salary.

"Where we got it to [before the McGrady trade] I thought was realistic, but to add this onto it is a little more than I thought we could do. I never said we were after two max [players], and I didn't know if it would add up to that, but this could now, I guess," Walsh said.
 8 years ago '04        #7336
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those with a twitter account, Knicks are having a contest to basically watch the game at a suite with the 1969-70 championship squad next week...

 8 years ago '04        #7337
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Today, as I officially say good-bye to the Houston Rockets, one of my greatest regrets is that I was unable to bring Rocket fans a championship during my time here in Houston. This great city has been my home for over six years. Three of my kids were born here and this is where CleRenda and I will continue to raise our children. It is where we call home. Over the years, I have received so much support from the communities throughout the city, on a personal level and for my Foundation and Darfur School Programs. I have nothing but sincere gratitude for the city of Houston and the generous people who live in it.

I have tremendous respect for Leslie Alexander and have enjoyed playing for the Rockets over the last six years. It has definitely been the most profound part of my career. I’ve learned a lot about myself from various situations, both good and bad that have occurred here. It was my hope when I came to Houston that I wouldn’t leave, but I do understand this is the business side of basketball.

I wish the current Rockets team nothing but success this season. They are a great group of guys, tremendous teammates, and very talented on the court. One of the highlights of my career has been playing alongside Yao, a truly exceptional player and human being. I have great respect for him as an athlete and as a friend, and will remember fondly our time playing together.

As for me, I can’t wait to get back on the court to continue doing what I love to do. I am excited to be headed to New York and look forward to wearing a Knick uniform. I know that I can and will contribute to this organization. It’s a dream to play in New York and there is nothing that compares to playing in the Garden. Knick fans are some of the most knowledgeable and passionate fans in the league, and it will be an honor to play in front of them and to play for the great city of New York.

To all my fans who have backed me throughout all these years, I can promise you one thing, that my desire to play and to win has never been as strong as it is today. No amount of road blocks, injuries and critics could stop my need to play ball. It is who I am and what I do.
I am on to the next chapter of my career and I thank you again for taking the ride with me.

- Mac


 8 years ago '04        #7338
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The Knicks interest in Tracy McGrady is obvious from the salary cap relief standpoint, especially because of the $9.5 million in savings that came out of the three-team trade before the deadline.

But what McGrady also brings to the Knicks is that these last 29 games are now worth something. It's been a long day and I'm pretty tired, but I'm not anywhere near the state of delerium that would lead me to even try to suggest McGrady, with one microfracture-repaired knee and a potbelly physique, leads a ridiculous charge to a playoff berth. This gang is 7 1/2 games out, Fixers. Be sure to mix well that dose of reality in the Kool-Aid today. And hate me for being right.

But it's not a total loss. No this will be interesting, to say the least. McGrady is a megawatt talent who, in the few times Rick Adelman let him off the bench in December, proved he could still put up strong numbers. His shooting touch is still there, as is the natural ability to create offense, either for himself or others.

The Knicks want to see just how much he has left and if it may be worth a little piece of their precious cap space this summer as they rebuild this roster.

"All the options are open now," Donnie Walsh said in regards to McGrady being an option for next season.

Maybe if there were a few more games left, maybe if the deficit wasn't already so steep, maybe if there weren't five back-to-backs left and maybe if 17 of the last 29 games weren't on the road, there might be a chance.

Maybe if the Knicks weren't somehow even smaller after these trades, weren't so obviously weaker defensively (if that was possible).

But, again, it'll be very interesting. Why?

For one, after the offense was downshifted to allow Chris Duhon to play at his gear, get ready for the return of Seven Seconds or Less. If not for any other reason but because the Knicks will need to run and score as much as they possible can to overcome the fact that they can't/won't defend. Perhaps Mike D'Antoni needs to put a "Foul Jar" in the locker room and after each game, whoever played over 20 minutes and didn't get at least four fouls must put $1,000 in the jar. Then tell the players the money goes toward a post-season party for the beat writers. We'd be making it rain if guys kept letting opponents get to the rim like the Bulls did in that third quarter on Wednesday night.

Back on point: McGrady. He'll probably begin as a two guard, which will allow Wilson Chandler to move to the four spot, where he's more comfortable (and better suited). You could see flashy playmaker Sergio Rodriguez, whom the Knicks were thrilled to get in the deal, supplant Duhon as the starting point guard. El Chacho (or, if you prefer the more American moniker, S-Rod) can use these 29 games as a showcase for himself, as well, in D'Antoni's system. The Knicks are going to need a point guard this summer.

But the main thing to see is if McGrady can be the go-to guy, the LeBron, the Wade, the Carmelo, the Dirk . . . the Kobe, the Knicks have so sorely lacked all season and for the better part of the past decade. Does he still have this in him?

Trainer Tim Grover, who has worked with McGrady since his Rockets exile in late December, says the microfracture issue -- his surgery was a year ago -- should not be a factor. But we've seen with players who come out of microfracture surgery that explosion is usually the biggest loss. Running and moving isn't as much of a problem, but the explosion the player was so used to -- and what was so much a part of their game -- just never returns. McGrady had great explosion, as Shawn Bradley once found out, but can he get it back again at the age of 30?

"It normally does [impact explosion]," Grover said of microfracture, "but I think we were able to combat that quite a bit. Give it about 10 days and you'll be able to see how explosive he really is."

Grover's only concern with McGrady in these 29 games has to do with his basketball timing. "From a conditioning standpoint, he's going to be fine," Grover said. "Get a couple of practices under his belt. Health-wise, he's 100 percent. But, listen, you can only run a person on a treadmill so much. You can only have him go through drills and have him do different things, but when you're out there playing five-on-five against guys 250 pounds and up and taking contact, that's something I just can't simulate this time of year."

Grover says McGrady has worked out "five times a week" since December and when he wasn't at Grover's ATTACK Athletics facility in Chicago, "I sent one of my trainers with him" when McGrady was home in Houston.

So it'll be interesting, for sure. Each game, down to No. 82, will be a look at a once-superstar player trying to regain his level and prove to the rest of the NBA that he still belongs among the game's elite and, of course, he is worth another multiyear contract.

It'll be interesting to see when a team has to guard a 6-8 shooter who can handle the ball at the top of a pick-and-roll how they then defend a 6-9 player who can cut, catch and finish with either hand. And how they defend that without leaving one of the NBA's best three-point shooters on the perimeter and also keeping an eye on that kid with the pogostick legs crashing back door from the weak side.

It'll be interesting to see how the supporting cast looks with a leading man.
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Alan Hahn

Two desperate NBA entities collided Thursday in a moment of need that served as the feature event in one of the busiest trade-deadline days in NBA history.

In joining the Knicks, former exiled All-Star Tracy McGrady gets the Garden stage - and Mike D'Antoni's wide-open offense - to showcase himself for free agency this summer. And in McGrady, the Knicks gain a means of ensuring that they, too, will get a lot of attention in free agency.

The Knicks acquired McGrady from the Houston Rockets and point guard Sergio Rodriguez from the Sacramento Kings in a three-team deal in which Jared Jeffries ($6.8-million salary in 2010-11) and rookie Jordan Hill ($2.7 million) went to the Rockets to create $9.5 million in salary-cap savings for next season.

The Knicks will have more than $30 million in cap space to use in the final step in the plan Donnie Walsh laid out when he was hired in April 2008: rebuilding through a star-studded free-agent market this summer. "It puts the franchise in position where it can build a contending team," he said. "That's what the goal was."

The Kings sent Kevin Martin and Hilton Armstrong to the Rockets, the Rockets sent Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey to the Kings, and the Knicks sent Larry Hughes to the Kings. The Rockets also obtained the right to swap 2011 first-round picks with the Knicks along with the Knicks' 2012 first-round pick.

In a separate deal yesterday, the Knicks sent Nate Robinson and Marcus Landry to the Boston Celtics for veteran Eddie House, D-Leaguers J.R. Giddens and Bill Walker, and a conditional future second-round pick.

All told, the Knicks traded six players in two days - Darko Milicic was dealt to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Brian Cardinal on Wednesday - to reshape a team that is 71/2 games out of a playoff spot with 29 games to go. Or should we say a team that is 29 games from something Walsh has been planning for almost two years.

"It took a lot of work to get to this stage. I would say everybody feels happy about it," Walsh said last night after the busiest trade-deadline day in franchise history.

Walsh had talked with Rockets GM Daryl Morey since Sunday about the framework of a deal involving McGrady and shedding Jeffries' $6.8-million 2010-11 salary. Morey believed he could get more value for McGrady, who has an expiring contract at $23 million, the league's highest salary this season. Walsh was extremely wary about his end of the deal, which involved giving up Hill, the No. 8 overall pick in the draft last season, plus a future first-round pick.

Enter Kings GM Geoff Petrie, who was looking to move Martin's hefty contract so the Kings could build around Rookie of the Year candidate Tyreke Evans. On Wednesday night, Petrie reached an agreement with Morey on the exchange of Martin and McGrady and then reached out to Walsh to complete the rest of the deal. Arn Tellem, the powerful agent who represents McGrady, had a hand in networking the teams with the intention of ensuring that McGrady would wind up with the Knicks.

Asked if the Kings saved the deal, Walsh replied, "Probably."

With the Kings including Martin in the deal, Walsh was able to quell his concerns about mortgaging the future by protecting the 2011 pick if it becomes the first overall and the 2012 if it falls in the top five. With all that cap space, the Knicks - who are owned by Cablevision, which also owns Newsday - should believe their days in the lottery are over. But Walsh saw the mistakes of the past - giving up two unprotected lottery picks for Eddy Curry in 2005, not to mention that this year's first-round pick was given away in the Stephon Marbury trade in 2004 - and did not want to leave the same kind of legacy.

McGrady flew to New York last night and is expected to be in uniform for tomorrow's game against the Thunder at the Garden. It would be his first game since he played eight minutes against the Magic on Dec. 23, right before the Rockets decided to dismiss him from the team while they considered trade options.

McGrady, making a comeback from microfracture surgery, worked out with renowned trainer Tim Grover in Chicago - he was there Tuesday when the Knicks played the Bulls - and according to Grover, he is ready to go. "Put him in a uniform and let him play," Grover said. "He's ready."

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