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 8 years ago '04        #7081
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nice feeling.....Kahn gonna pop that s**t about us not having anybody worth trading for in a Rubio scenario and get shut the f**k down the same night by us

 8 years ago '07        #7082
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alanhahn

For the Rubio Theorists: David Kahn says, "I fully expect Ricky Rubio to start his playing career in a Timberwolves uniform." But added.......(Kahn) "I can't predict the future. I can't say for certainty that something would happen to change that plan."

Kahn also said of the trade rumors: "I mean no disrespect to the Knicks and Donnie, but what kind of trade could they propose?"
and then we blow his bum a.ss team out by 30
 8 years ago '06        #7083
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Nice to see this team bounce back from such a horrible loss.
 8 years ago '04        #7084
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Alan Hahn

The Knicks haven't been over .500 since the 2000-01 season. Coincidentally, that's the last time they had representation in the NBA's all-star game.

It was close in 2007, when Eddy Curry was putting together a solid year as a dominant low post scorer. After 44 games, right before the all-star reserves were announced for the 2007 team, Curry averaged 19.4 points and 7.09 rebounds per game.

After 44 games this season, right before the all-star reserves will be announced on Thursday, David Lee is averaging the exact same 19.4 points with a more impressive 11.4 rebounds.

But here's the thing: Curry's Knicks were 18-26 at the time.

The Knicks record this season after 44 games? 18-26.

In 2007, the Eastern coaches gave the nod to young Dwight Howard, who had comparable numbers to Curry, but his Orlando Magic were 23-21.

Does the same thing happen to Lee this season?

Let's consider the options. Chris Bosh is a sure bet at forward. Gerald Wallace is averaging 18.5 points and 11 rebounds per game for a much-improved Bobcats team that is at .500 (42-42) after a win over the Suns. The Hawks lead the Southeast Division and could see another player join Joe Johnson on the reserves list. Al Horford or Josh Smith? Take your pick.

Now it gets interesting. You can certainly make a case for Lee at this point. He has statistically been outstanding and has emerged as the Knicks most important player. But he is on a losing team and that team did just take a 50-point beating at home on Sunday and his defensive reputation certainly isn't a highlight on his resume. What may work in Lee's favor is that most coaches submitted their ballots after his 31-point, 17-rebound effort against all-star candidate Pau Gasol and the Lakers on ESPN's national broadcast on Friday.

But what about Paul Pierce? The Celtics lead the Atlantic and already have Kevin Garnett as a starter and there is a great argument that Rajon Rondo absolutely deserves a spot among the reserves. Do the Celtics actually have three worthy candidates? Not if the Eastern Conference-leading Cavaliers only get two (Mo Williams could get selected, but his injury will keep him from playing).

It'll be interesting to see the results, which will be revealed Thursday on TNT. The coaches votes were due Wednesday.

Mike D'Antoni was sure to leave Lee in the game Tuesday despite a 30-point lead in the fourth quarter just so Lee could get his 10th rebound, which resulted in his 26th double-double of the season. D'Antoni believes Lee is deserving of an all-star selection.

Many others in the media agree -- TNT's Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley each included Lee among their picks -- but the only votes that matter are from the Eastern Conference coaches.

"I've heard some support from not only you guys [here in New York] but the national media," Lee said. "I guess we'll see how it turns out."

It should be noted that Danny Granger was an all-star reserve last season on a Pacers team that was 17-27 after 44 games.

One more thing: should Lee get an all-star spot, he would not only be the first Knicks all-star in nine years, but he'd be the first Knicks draft pick to make the all-star game in over 20 years. Amazingly, Mark Jackson was the last in 1989.

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* - Nate Robinson returned after missing one game with a hamstring strain, but it appeared he might have hurt his right wrist on a hard fall after being fouled by Sasha Pavlovic on a fast-break layup with 1:49 left in the third quarter. Robinson, a righty, even shot the free throw left-handed (and missed). Two possessions later, however, he drilled a three-pointer with his right hand and appeared to be fine after that.

* - Wilson Chandler played through a groin strain that kept him out of practice on Monday and finished with 20 points. D'Antoni kept Chandler's minutes restricted in the blowout just to make sure the injury didn't flare up.

* - Jordan Hill played 1:10 in the first half but was unavailable for extensive garbage time in the second half because, according to the team, he was feeling ill. The rookie wasn't on the bench but seemed OK in the locker room after the game.

* - The Knicks took 40 three-pointers -- seven shy of their NBA record set earlier this season -- and made 17 of them. They were 8-for-16 in the fourth quarter when the game was well in hand, as Jonathan Bender came off the bench launching seven and making four. It did seem a bit much and you wonder if there will be any carry-over into the next game between the two teams, which happens to be in only a few days -- Sunday in Minnesota.

* - Chris Duhon didn't hit a shot (0-for-3) but he did record 13 a.ssists with zero turnovers in 31:04. The Knicks overall had 32 a.ssists on 47 made field goals.

* - One final thought regarding David Kahn's comments from the previous blog about how he expects Ricky Rubio to make his NBA debut in a Minnesota Timberwolves uniform: that plan could change dramatically -- and Rubio could suddenly be very available -- should the T-Wolves (9-37) upset the Nets and win the draft lottery in May to earn the right to select Kentucky's John Wall.

Just bloggin.
 8 years ago '06        #7085
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Good looks on the Newsday / Hack...I mean Hahn articles. I know most don't have a subscription to the Newsday site, so getting the updates via Ron Burgandy is much appreciated.

"Stay Classy"
 8 years ago '04        #7086
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the wolves r a.ss this is what i like to see beat the teams we suppose to
 8 years ago '04        #7087
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130pm live chat with danilo on the knicks website be there or be square lol
 8 years ago '04        #7088
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Team USA is in negotiations to hold training camp in New York City instead of Las Vegas in August, ESPN.com learned Wednesday. An exhibition game could also be hosted at Madison Square Garden.

Team USA still plans to conduct a mini-camp in Las Vegas in mid-July, but there is a strong possibility that several key members of the team who will be unrestricted free agents this summer will be excused.
 8 years ago '04        #7089
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thenyknicks

Talk about a movin' & groovin' deal, Meet Clyde Frazier tmrw night + score a tee for $30, vs. @raptors. Use code FRAZIER @ nyknicks.com.
 01-28-2010, 04:16 AM         #7090
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Might throw some money on the Knicks laying points. Pray for me, guys.
 8 years ago '04        #7091
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According to a source, David Lee will not be one of the seven reserves named to the Eastern Conference All-Star Team.

There is always a possibility that an injury to one of the 12 players on the team could give Lee another chance.

Latrell Sprewell and Allan Houston were the last Knicks to be selected to the team back in 2001.

Lee is currently ranked 8th in RealGM's player rankings, with a FIC per 40 minutes of 18.4.


f**king leagues a joke....first the number 1 three point shooter in the league is not in the 3 point contest and now this s**t. guarantee if this dude was a Spur and played half as good as Lee does now, he'd probably be a starter there
 8 years ago '07        #7092
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David Lee, the all-star that isn't

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David Lee(notes) is not going to make the All-Star team. In 2009-10, at least.

He's averaging 19.4 points, 11.4 rebounds, and 3.4 a.ssists per game. The last statistic on the list is tops among NBA centers. The other two statistics are veddy, veddy fine.

And he's not an All-Star. Or, he's not on the All-Star team. But he is an all-star. Capitalization, non-capitalization, intended.

You see, Kevin Garnett(notes) made the All-Star team as a starter, and while Kevin Garnett might be one of the more unheralded NBA legends of any generation, despite all his popularity and status, he didn't deserve to make the All-Star team. And that moved everyone down one spot. And Al Horford(notes) made the team, because Al Horford's having an All-Star season. Same with Josh Smith(notes), who didn't make the team.

And because the Knicks will probably not make the playoffs, because Lee's defense is worse than Horford's, and because people think his stats are completely inflated by the pace of Mike D'Antoni's whims, David Lee is not an All-Star.

The problem I have with that — and the problem I'm sure you have, Knick fans — is that David Lee is an all-star.

And for now, for this season and as it's been for the last few seasons, you're just going to have to be cool with that.

Cold comfort, I know. Because it's been a miserable run, since Jeff Van Gundy stepped down in the winter of 2001. Or since the Raptors semi-surprisingly dismissed the Knicks in the 2001 playoffs. Or since you guys fell short against Indiana in 2000. Or the Bulls or Rockets in years prior. Or since 1973. However you want to call it, I know it hasn't been easy.

But Lee was your guy, since the beginning. He was the reason you knew Larry Brown was a right nutter bent on losing games on purpose in order to drive Isiah Thomas from the GM position. How he started Lee in Memphis, because Lee is from the St. Louis area, which is not the Memphis area, during his rookie year. You ever driven to Memphis? You hit St. Louis, a fabulous town in its own right, and you go, "[shoot], we're just now getting to St. Louis? We still have two hours left?"

Memphis ain't St. Louis, David Lee was only a starter as a gimmick, and once the Knicks started to win in the winter of 2005-06, because Lee was playing so well, Larry Brown sat him. Because he wanted to lose games. Yes, I'm a mainstream writer on a popular website, and I'm admitting that Larry Brown lost games on purpose in order to put a like-minded lackey in at the GM position.

Lee sat, and he dealt with it. And likely, around the same time, Mike Kurylo taught you about per-minute, pace-adjusted stats. And he told you what you probably already knew - that Lee should be playing more. But the Knicks didn't want to hear it. They had Eddy Curry(notes). They flippin' traded for Zach Randolph(notes), who was bloody awful back then. They played these two lugubrious doofs ahead of Lee, who should have been starting.

Thomas was chased out, Randolph was miraculously dealt, and Lee got a gig — a starting gig — in 2008-09. Just in time for Mike D'Antoni. And when Lee put up the same stats he was averaging (a bit worse, actually) per-minute with the new guy at the helm, while starting, people passed it off as a system thing. Numbers due to pace.

Never mind that these people never paid attention to pace in any other instance. Never mind that these people didn't seem to holler when another fast-paced function of Mike D'Antoni's system won two dubious MVP awards.

Then this year? Lee learns to shoot. He racks up big a.ssist totals, on a team that doesn't really shoot that well. Or, at all. He puts up over 19 and 11. He's flippin' fantastic.

And the Knicks? They're eighth in possessions per game. Eighth! Not first, or second, f!ghting with the Warriors and staving off the Suns. They're slower than the Lakers, who feature an oak tree at point guard, a guy with nine fingers at off guard, and a 1983 Range Rover at small forward.

But, somehow, Lee is a "system guy." Only gets his stats due to that fast pace. That eighth-ranked pace.

You're used to this, NYC. You might have the world's biggest persecution complex, but guess what? So do the world's biggest religions. And with Lee? Well, you're used to him getting screwed over. This is nothing new. This is nothing you're not used to.

It won't help things, not when Chris Duhon(notes) is shooting 1-7 again and Al Harrington(notes) is writing "MLE, Lakers, K, thx" on his sneakers. But you know what's up. You've known for a while, now.

David Lee's an all-star.
 01-28-2010, 08:34 PM         #7093
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Might throw some money on the Knicks laying points. Pray for me, guys.
Who didn't pray?
 8 years ago '04        #7094
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Jared Jeffries hyper-extended his right knee during the Knicks' 106-104 loss to Toronto on Thursday.

The injury occurred in the second quarter and though he played out the injury, he did not return after halftime.
 8 years ago '04        #7095
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Alan Hahn

David Lee took the news that he was not selected among the Eastern Conference all-star reserves when he saw that no one from a team under .500 was invited. In fact, there is only player in the game that plays on a losing team. That would be Allen Iverson, who was voted in by fans. The 76ers are 15-30.

Consider that the Knicks haven't had an all-star since 2001, when Allan Houston and Latrell Sprewell were selected as reserves. The Knicks were 48-34 that season, so not only was it the last season the team had representation at the all-star game, it was, coincidentally, the last time the team had a winning record.

Still, Lee still has an outside shot to make the trip to Dallas for the Feb. 14 showcase, especailly if Kevin Garnett, who was voted as a starter by the fans, decides to rest his knee rather than make the trip. But injury replacements are chosen by David Stern, who may bypass Lee to give a lifetime achievement nod to Shaquille O'Neal. If not to have Shaq's bigger-than-life presence at what could be one of the biggest all-star weekends in history, but to give the first-place Cleveland Cavaliers a second all-star.

Really, it's amazing that the Celtics, five games behind Cleveland, have three all-stars (Garnett, Rajon Rondo and Paul Pierce), the Hawks, who are 5.5 games back, have two (Joe Johnson and Al Horford) and yet the Cavs have just one (LeBron). Says a lot about the debate as to how good Cleveland would be without LeBron.

Speaking of LeBron (which means we're speaking of 2010) there is a theory that, aside from the losing record thing -- hey, Danny Granger made the all-star team as a reserve last season off a losing team -- suggests another, perhaps even subconscious, reason why Lee did not get enough votes to be an all-star.

Yup, an anti-Knicks bias.

Now, if you have read this far you will notice that I already debunked this theory before it was even presented by explaining how not a single reserve, either East or West, was selected from a losing team. But let's explore it for the sake of entertainment.

Basically, this is the theory: If you are Chicago, Miami, New Jersey and especially Cleveland, you don't want the Knicks, with all of their salary cap space and the New York/Madison Square Garden thing, to be able to boast having an all-star player on their roster as part of the lure for one of those superstar free agents.

Certainly a ridiculous notion.

Or is it?

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* - The injury to Jared Jeffries (hyper-extended right knee), which caused him to miss the entire second half, should be a major concern for the Knicks, who are already reeling with seven losses in their last 10 games. On top of that, Al Harrington said he will get an MRI on his left knee, which has been bothering him for weeks and has sapped a lot of explosiveness from his drives to the basket.
 8 years ago '06        #7096
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This team needs the All Star break in the worst way...
 8 years ago '04        #7097
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looks like both Philly and Washington might be dumping n*ggas....anybody tickle your fancy on them teams anyone?

shocked to not even hear rumors of anything with the Wizards
 8 years ago '04        #7098
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Alan Hahn

Count Shaquille O'Neal among those who believe David Lee deserved to be named among the all-star reserves. Before Friday's win over the Pacers, Shaq was asked if he was disappointed that he was left off the all-star team this season and he instead took the opportunity to suggest there was an unfair bias against Lee.

"I'm more disappointed in a guy like David Lee," O'Neal said. "I was on the great end of the bureaucracy, now I'm on the other end of the bureaucracy. I really feel bad for 'The Human Double-Double'. If anybody should have been given a spot, it was him. I'm not taking anything away from Al Horford."

Coincidentally, Shaq could be the player David Stern would consider if, say Kevin Garnett decided not to go to Dallas and instead rest his knee or if another player was injured. At what is expected to be the largest all-star weekend in history, the league would want it's largest personality.

But it sounds like O'Neal, a 15-time all-star, might pass in favor of sending Lee to experience his first all-star.
 8 years ago '07        #7099
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 Born_Loser said:
Alan Hahn

Count Shaquille O'Neal among those who believe David Lee deserved to be named among the all-star reserves. Before Friday's win over the Pacers, Shaq was asked if he was disappointed that he was left off the all-star team this season and he instead took the opportunity to suggest there was an unfair bias against Lee.

"I'm more disappointed in a guy like David Lee," O'Neal said. "I was on the great end of the bureaucracy, now I'm on the other end of the bureaucracy. I really feel bad for 'The Human Double-Double'. If anybody should have been given a spot, it was him. I'm not taking anything away from Al Horford."

Coincidentally, Shaq could be the player David Stern would consider if, say Kevin Garnett decided not to go to Dallas and instead rest his knee or if another player was injured. At what is expected to be the largest all-star weekend in history, the league would want it's largest personality.

But it sounds like O'Neal, a 15-time all-star, might pass in favor of sending Lee to experience his first all-star.
If Garnett sits, and Shaq did this... then big ups to the Diesel
 8 years ago '04        #7100
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so the best 6th man (points off the bench wise) Harrington is not playing today and Jefferies may be limited....hopefully we can squeeze out the victory
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