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 01-24-2010, 02:19 AM         #7061
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 DRuNk 24/7 said:
Fluckin' Bulls are k!llING me!!!...
:( Bulls are not even giving us any hope. Back-to-back wins :surprised:
 8 years ago '07        #7062
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:hang::hang::hang::hang::hang:
 01-24-2010, 02:20 PM         #7063
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happened?
 8 years ago '04        #7064
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thank god i was at the Apple Store and didnt witness this travesty....damn near all the headlines i read about this game was basically hyping up a shootout between *does his South Park commercial guy voice* "FROM THE MAKERS OF..." DIRK vs. SUCK MY GALLO
 8 years ago '06        #7065
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Worst. Headache. Ever.

Only thing that made me feel better was watching Favre lose, throwing an INT for his last pass ever...well until he retires, then come backs again.
 8 years ago '04        #7066
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Knicks better atleast make an offer for Amare since he's now "officially" on the market
 8 years ago '04        #7067
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Alan Hahn

Mike D'Antoni left one starter on the court through extensive, second-half garbage time in the 50-point epic loss to Dallas. Rather than give the burn to veteran Larry Hughes, D'Antoni kept Chris Duhon in the game in an obvious attempt to get the struggling point guard out of his slump. Even John Starks, who took a courtside seat along celebrity row, had a few words for Duhon while Wilson Chandler shot free throws in the first half.

Let's review the direct impact the point guard position has had on the Knicks this season:

In October, the team was 0-3. Duhon shot 26.9% from the field and 14.3% from three-point range. He averaged 7.7 points and 6.3 a.ssists.

In November, the team was 3-11. Duhon shot 28.3% from the field and 24.1% from three. His numbers dipped to 6.9 points and 6.1 a.ssists.

In the successful month of December, the team went 9-6. Duhon's numbers were the best of the season: 43.2% from the floor and 46.3% from beyond the arc. His scoring was up to 12.1 points and 6.9 a.ssists.

Here in January, the team is 5-6 so far and check out Duhon's numbers: 30.8% field goals, 29.8% threes and his production is a season-low 5.3 points and 5.4 a.ssists.

So, factually speaking, as Duhon goes, so go the Knicks.

Or perhaps it's better to say, production at the point guard position is so obviously critical to the team's success.

The Knicks tried to ride this out last season and it cost them a shot at a playoff berth, a futile drive that disintergrated after the all-star break. D'Antoni remains steadfast in his support of Duhon this season, but that's bound to change the moment someone more effective finally emerges. Rookie Toney Douglas was given yet another shot at making a case for himself on Sunday, as D'Antoni gave him the third guard role (over Hughes) vacated by injured Nate Robinson and Douglas was very ineffective.

It seems evident that Donnie Walsh will have to try to find the answer in a trade (or perhaps a vets min signing?) before the Feb. 18 deadline. One thing Walsh can take out of Sunday's brutal loss is that the Mavericks sure have plenty of depth at the point guard position. Jason Kidd didn't play (personal reasons), which put the ball in the hands of J.J. Barea, who is very quick (small, but also very tough), can run an offense and he certainly can knock down shots when he needs to.

Barea has a $1.65 million salary (pending restricted free agent) and the Knicks happen to have a $1.6M trade exception they have yet to use. Would Dallas, considering they have sharp-shooting rookie Roddy Beaubois on the bench, make that kind of move? Probably not.

But keep looking around the league. The Grizzlies are always going to be conscious of the luxury tax threshold and they have extra guards. Jamaal Tinsley (expiring $1,033,733) isn't the best finisher, but he knows how to run an offense and hit the open man. He has helped the Grizzlies this season and has done well in his comeback after the fallout in Indiana. Walsh knows Tinsley well and the Brooklyn native would love the opportunity to play for the Knicks.

With Tinsley, the Knicks could up the tempo more and get out and run more with Wilson Chandler, David Lee, Danilo Gallinari and Nate Robinson as finishers.

But is that really enough?

Sacramento is also loaded with guards, especially with the return of Kevin Martin. Though there were some rumors about teams inquiring about the oft-injured Martin (Knicks need to visit this in the offseason for sure), the Kings appear to be interested in seeing how Rookie of the Year favorite Tyreke Evans looks with Martin with him in the backcourt before they make any rash decisions.

But Martin's return means less minutes for Sergio Rodriguez, who has longed to play in New York and for D'Antoni. Rodriguez's salary ($1.89 million) just makes it for the Knicks to offer their exception (125 percent rule). For the Kings, it gets them closer to the luxury tax threshold. For the Knicks, it gets them a crafty playmaker who is having a terrific year (44.7% FG, 37.8 3PT%, 3.1 a.ssists/1.4 turnovers in 13.2 minutes per game) and would be a good short-term solution. Rodriguez will be a restricted free agent this summer with a $2.8M qualifyer. The Knicks could waive this to clear him from the 2010 salary cap or, if he fares well, they could retain him for a very cheap price.

The Knicks could use their trade exception to entice the Portland Trail Blazers into giving up Rudy Fernandez ($1.16 million), who isn't a point guard but would upgrade their talent. Or push the Blazers to consider a player swap for Steve Blake ($4.9M expiring). The question, of course, is what would the Blazers want for Blake? Know this: Kevin Pritchard isn't going to just give Blake away, especially to a team he knows desperately needs a point guard.

Walsh brought in his scouts to meet and discuss all options before the trade deadline. Even Kevin Wilson, the team's European scout who pushed Walsh to draft Danilo Gallinari, is in town. Wilson is very close to the family of one heralded point guard prospect that remains very much on the radar: Ricky Rubio.

In 10 games for Regal FC Barcelona, Rubio isn't exactly putting up huge numbers. In fact, they look very similar to Duhon's production: 6.4 points, 5.6 a.ssists and shooting 38.1 percent from the field. But people -- especially Wilson -- remain enamored with the 19-year-old's potential and the kind of impact he could have in the NBA game.

As Berman wrote in today's Post, the Knicks haven't given up on working out something with the Minnesota Timberwolves if or when David Kahn decides to move the 2009 lottery pick. And there is a belief that the Knicks, with the New York market, would have the leverage to work something out with Barcelona to release Rubio from his contract earlier than the 2011-12 season, which is in his contract.

Of course before all of this you must consider that the Knicks right now can't do anything with their trade exception until they open up a roster spot. The NBA has not yet completed Cuttino Mobley's medical retirement, so he remains on the roster and counts against the cap.

But you can be a.ssured that if Walsh does anything before the Feb. 18 deadline -- and all indications are he plans to -- it will involve a point guard.
 8 years ago '07        #7068
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f**k chris duhon
 8 years ago '04        #7069
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The Knicks are still keeping track of the Ricky Rubio situation, which has stretched from Minnesota to Spain.

Rubio, who was drafted with the sixth overall pick by the Timberwolves last June, is playing in Spain this season.

Knicks international scout Kevin Wilson lives in Barcelona and Regal, Rubio's club, is his hometown team. The New York Post also writes that, "Wilson is friends with the Rubio family and Ricky's parents would love to see the Timberwolves deal him to New York."

New York president Donnie Walsh told the Post that the last time he spoke to Timberwolves general manager David Kahn, he was told that they aren't accepting trade offers for Rubio currently.

"David has told me he wants to bring Ricky over for next season," Walsh said.

Via New York Post
 8 years ago '04        #7070
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Alan Hahn

I made the mistake of introducing myself to Mel Daniels, the former Pacers executive who worked for years as Donnie Walsh's partner in Indiana. Daniels is in town for a few days to provide another perspective for Walsh (who insisted Daniels is not on the verge of being hired into a front office position with the Knicks) and was at Monday's practice wearing a Yankees cap and a wide, welcoming smile.

Then came the handshake. I don't remember much after that.

Shortly thereafer, Al Harrington escorted Marcus Landry over to Daniels to introduce the rookie (keep in mind Harrington played for the Pacers). When Daniels finally released his vice-grip shake, Landry grabbed his palm with his other hand and winced.

Harrington laughed and carefully offered Daniels a high five. When Harrington explained to some members of the media who the tall man in the Yankees cap was, I interjected, "Just don't shake his hand."

Al laughed. "Oh he got you, too?"

I nodded and Al said, "He once broke my former agent's hand."

That's what you want to come away with when you consider a franchise that is rebuilding: that the people in charge have a firm grip on things. Walsh gave that indication after practice when, after chastizing the effort of his team in Sunday's 50-point embarrassment at the Garden -- "It was a terrible game," he said, "and obviously we've got to pick it up if we hope to make the playoffs." -- he denied there was a desperate need to make changes to his roster before the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

What he basically said was, he wasn't going to make change for change's sake. No re-arranging of deck chairs. All of those cliches that go along with the cliche reaction to a team with low expectations performing up to their expectations.

"What I found is when you panic, you make large mistakes," Walsh said. "So it's not that I like where we are, it's that until something better presents itself, you just gotta keep doing the things you're doing."

The message remains steadfastly consistent: the rebuild will begin in the summer of 2010, as planned since April 2008, when Walsh was hired to do the job. So there will not be any deals made that will negatively impact the salary cap situation in 2010-11 before the end of this season.

Of course that is not to say that Walsh isn't working the phones to make something work on the short-term to help his team earn a playoff berth that is starting to slip out of reach again after a 2-6 run in the last eight games.

As we said in the previous blog, there is an obvious need at the point guard position and we expect that will be where Walsh and his staff focuses the bulk of their attention. But with limited resources and limitations on what he is willing to take back in contracts, Walsh's selection will be, well, limited.

So for every name you see attached to a rumor, Fixers, try not to immediately try to find a way the Knicks can make a deal happen. Keep in mind the uproar after the team opted not to sign Allen Iverson. Then check to see where the Knicks and 76ers are in the standings two months after the Knicks passed on him.

And Walsh knows many of you are itching for a trade, just to have something new. Like you see Sundiata Gaines and wonder how the Knicks didn't get him. You wonder why the Knicks didn't try to get Eric Maynor. But you also forget the Knicks already have a rookie scoring guard in Toney Douglas.

And you have to understand that adding Maynor or Gaines doesn't make the Knicks a playoff team.

"You're a.ssuming that any move will help us make the playoffs, I don't a.ssume that," Walsh said. "I a.ssume we've got to make the right move in order to have something like that happen. And if that's there, we'll do it."

Of course a deal has to work both ways. I've talked to a handful of NBA general managers and personnel executives over the last week and have gotten a consistent message: the Knicks just don't have players anyone is that interested in (outside of David Lee and Danilo Gallinari, of course). You're not going to get Tracy McGrady for Jared Jeffries and Eddy Curry. You're not going to land Amar'e Stoudemire for Jordan Hill and Larry Hughes.

Any of the potential 2010 free agents like Stoudemire (i.e.: Chris Bosh, Ray Allen) that will come up as possible trade pieces before Feb. 18 aren't going to be had for cheap. The Knicks just don't have the kind of pieces -- nor do they have a first-round pick, mind you -- to be serious players for high-end talent right now.

It seems pretty clear that Walsh has a grip on reality. I just have to remember never to let Daniels ever again get a grip of my hand.
 8 years ago '08        #7071
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Bulls won again tonight
 8 years ago '04        #7072
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The Knicks could turn to guard Larry Hughes on Monday night against the Timberwolves.

New York may be without Nate Robinson due to a hamstring injury and rookie Toney Douglas looked lost against Dallas on Sunday.

That means Hughes could earn some time backing up starting point guard Chris Duhon.

"I'm prepared to go out and help the team," Hughes said. "I don't have any answers. It's his team. He does what he sees fit to get a win. I'm trying to do all I can do to be ready for the games."

When the Knicks were on a role in December, Hughes backed up Duhon.

"I'm comfortable in that role," he said. "The more I play, the better rhythm I get in, the better it is."

Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni wouldn't commit to playing Hughes on Monday.
 8 years ago '04        #7073
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A day after Sunday afternoon’s 50-point loss to the Dallas Mavericks, the Knicks were in good spirits. They understand that they have to put the game behind them and move on, beginning with Tuesday’s matchup against the Minnesota Timberwolves at Madison Square Garden.

“I tried to keep a smile on my face today but it hasn’t been easy,” David Lee said after Monday’s practice. “That was one of those games (yesterday) that was so bad that it was easier to let go of rather than making a mistake at the last second and having a team beat you. Every guy that got into the game didn’t do what they were supposed to and it seemed like every guy for Dallas was clicking.

“You just have to move past it and the important thing is we can’t let it carry over into the next game. That’s very important.”

The Knicks’ 128-78 defeat to the Mavericks was the franchise’s worst loss at The Garden and their second-worst loss overall. With only two players scoring in double figures – Lee and Jared Jeffries – the Knicks were unable to get anything going after falling behind by double digits in the second quarter and lost for the sixth time in eight games.

New York dropped to 17-26 this season and now sits three and a half games behind the Chicago Bulls for eighth place in the Eastern Conference. The Knicks will have to take advantage of an easier schedule over the next few weeks that includes 10 of their next 14 games coming against sub-.500 teams starting with the Timberwolves, who have lost three in a row and own the league’s second-worst record at 9-36.

"We just have to lick our wounds,” Al Harrington said. “Minnesota obviously is a team we should definitely beat so we just have to forget about that and try to win this game.”

Now that the Knicks are officially in the second half of the season, they know its crunch-time and need to have bounce-back games after tough losses. After a franchise-worst 1-9 start to the year, the Knicks can’t afford to let opportunities slip by.

“If we hope to make the playoffs, we’ve got to pick it up and play at a higher level than we played (on Sunday),” Knicks President Donnie Walsh said. “And I think everyone knows that.”

The Knicks might have to bounce back without two of their most athletic players in the lineup. Wilson Chandler (groin) and Nate Robinson (hamstring) missed practice on Monday and are questionable for Tuesday’s game.

It’s that time of year when the wear-and-tear of a long season starts to affect players.

“There’s probably not an NBA player out there who’s 100 percent,” D’Antoni said. “These are dog days and we have to get through them. The only thing we’re looking for is f!ght. We don’t have to play well all the time but we do have to have f!ght.”

“It’s just always this time when injuries catch up to everybody,” Harrington said. “We just have to find a way to play at least .500 ball over these next eight games (before the All-Star break). We just have to find a way to stay right there and get the break for All-Star and come back in.”
 8 years ago '04        #7074
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Do Ramon Sessions' stats make anyone feel the Knicks should have given 3x$16M? Costs $3.9M against cap in 10-11
 8 years ago '04        #7075
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alanhahn

Here's a question: Who bangs with Al Jefferson tonight in the low post? Here's where Eddy Curry could have gotten some burn, perhaps.
 8 years ago '06        #7076
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 Born_Loser said:
alanhahn

Here's a question: Who bangs with Al Jefferson tonight in the low post? Here's where Eddy Curry could have gotten some burn, perhaps.
I'm sure Curry would love to "bang" with Al Jefferson. Come touch it, Al.
 8 years ago '04        #7077
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alanhahn

Nate Robinson (hamstring) and Wilson Chandler (groin) will play tonight vs MIN. #Knicks
 8 years ago '04        #7078
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alanhahn

For the Rubio Theorists: David Kahn says, "I fully expect Ricky Rubio to start his playing career in a Timberwolves uniform." But added.......(Kahn) "I can't predict the future. I can't say for certainty that something would happen to change that plan."

Kahn also said of the trade rumors: "I mean no disrespect to the Knicks and Donnie, but what kind of trade could they propose?"
 8 years ago '04        #7079
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Tonight's Starting Lineups: Gallo, Jeffries, Lee, Chandler, Duhon vs. Gomes, Wilkins, Jefferson, Brewer, Flynn
 8 years ago '04        #7080
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Alan Hahn

David Kahn seems amused by the amount of shelf life the Ricky Rubio-to-New York campaign has maintained since last June's draft. The Timberwolves general manager was quick to point out that Donnie Walsh called him the day after the draft on the apparent suggestion of the Knicks beat writers (present company included).

"He said, 'David, I just had a press conference and I told the writers I'd call you about Ricky Rubio. So, I'm calling you'," Kahn said before Tuesday's game between the Knicks and Timberwolves at the Garden.

While there was a great deal of speculation in the press, Kahn said there was one major detail people from the New York perspective failed to consider.

"I mean no disrespect to the Knicks or Donnie," he said, "but what kind of trade could they propose?"

Clearly he meant the Knicks didn't have the kind of a.ssets to make that kind of deal, though Kahn stopped short of going there. "You said that," he retorted, "I didn't."

But Kahn is aware he has a surplus at the point guard position. Along with Rubio, who is in Barcelona (and contractually locked up until 2011-12), he also drafted Syracuse's Jonny Flynn and then signed Ramon Sessions.

Still, when you ask him about Rubio, he insists the young Spaniard is very much in the team's plans going forward.

"I fully expect Ricky Rubio to start his playing career in a Minnesoa Timberwolves uniform," Kahn said.

Then he added a disclaimer: "Of course I also couch this with everything: I can't predict the future. I can't say for certainty that something would happen to change that plan. But the plan, for now -- and it's a firm plan, we have a lot invested in the kid already, a lo to fenergy and resources last summer were exhausted, and I'm very eager to see him start his career in our uniform."

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* - Nate Robinson (hamstring) and Wilson Chandler (groin) both tested out their injuries earlier in the day and were cleared to play tonight against the T-Wolves. While that's good news for the perimeter, this is one game where the Knicks can certainly use the big body of Eddy Curry, who will be out another five weeks after having his left knee scoped. Al Jefferson is an absolute load on the low blocks.

* - Tonight is David Lee's last night to make a case for the all-star team. Eastern Conference coaches have to have their ballots in by tomorrow (Wednesday). Mike D'Antoni said he already sent his in. Coaches can't vote for their own player, so we already know D'Antoni had to chose someone other than Lee. Will the Knicks' poor record -- and the 50 point home loss on Sunday -- keep Lee off the team? Remember the same thing happened to Eddy Curry in 2006-07.
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