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 5 years ago '04        #10501
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Ian O'Connor

The once-imagined Big Three of the New York Knicks belongs to the vision of three executives. If you are scoring at home, James Dolan will take credit for Carmelo Anthony while the deposed Glen Grunwald is a.ssigned Tyson Chandler and the deposed Donnie Walsh absorbs the hit that is Amar'e Stoudemire.

Walsh had to give all that money and all those years to Stoudemire so the Knicks wouldn't get completely shut out at the free-agent bazaar of 2010, a result that would've humiliated a franchise that, Lord knows, had humiliated itself enough. Grunwald had to give all that money and all those years to Chandler because the Knicks couldn't be sure they'd ever land Chris Paul, and because Chandler -- even though he was never a true star -- was a significant contributor to a championship team in Dallas.

But those good intentions haven't added up in an Eastern Conference that has turned hard against the Knicks, reducing last year's second seed to a second-tier team. Chandler, out with a fractured leg, has failed to hold up physically in two consecutive postseasons, and Stoudemire has unraveled in spectacular fashion, the two of them leaving Dolan's guy, Melo, all alone on a team now in the hands of yet another executive, Steve Mills.

Another executive who could destroy Melo's chance to ever win a ring in New York on a single swing and miss.

Assuming Anthony decides to re-sign in July, and a.ssuming the Knicks don't believe Iman Shumpert can grow into something special (I, for one, still think he has a chance), Mills is going to make a big move within the next year or two to land a legitimate second star. Dolan hired his new president and GM because he feels Mills has the requisite connections and charisma that Grunwald lacked to acquire that player, the one who provides Melo the complementary firepower to end the franchise's championship drought.

"And people are already selling [Dolan] on the idea that Kevin Durant will be that guy," said one person close to the Knicks. Though he's repped by Jay-Z's Roc Nation Sports and the Knicks' preferred business partners, Creative Artists Agency, or CAA, Durant is under contract with Oklahoma City through 2016, when New York's drought is scheduled to turn 43. Mills isn't about to wait around for that, not with the clock tick-tick-ticking away on Anthony's prime.

Is he capable of making the difference-making deal? Can he prove himself worthy of running basketball operations after the Garden collapsed around him in his first go-around on the business side of the place?

"That's an unknown," the person said, "because Steve has never been a GM running the team. I think he'll rely a lot on his a.ssistants, Mark Warkentien and Allan Houston, and he'll go to Warkentien more because he's the better of the two."

Warkentien and Houston are CAA clients, as is Mike Woodson, who, before earning the Knicks' full devotion, fired an agent he shared with Garden archenemy Larry Brown. Anthony and Andrea Bargnani are CAA guys, and so are J.R. Smith and brother Chris, widely perceived to be a scholarship player with walk-on skills. CAA has done consulting work for the Garden, and Dolan counts among his basketball advisers CAA's William "Worldwide Wes" Wesley, an influential dealmaker also known to have a strong working relationship with Mills.

"Steve's a really bright guy," said a second person with close ties to the Knicks, "but the question is whether Dolan will empower him, and give Steve the leeway he needs, when you basically have CAA running the place….J.R. Smith's brother? I can see keeping Carmelo Anthony's brother if it meant re-signing him. I wouldn't have done that, but I would've considered it."

Either way, Anthony is favored to remain with the Knicks for the $129 million nobody else can give him. But it appears he'll have to endure some more pain and suffering before he signs up for that max-out deal.

The Knicks are a 1-3 team that could very easily be 0-4. Chandler is out for four to six weeks, Stoudemire is falling apart limb by limb, Bargnani doesn't know if he's coming or going, the defense is offensive to watch, and the Knicks might end up needing a lot of luck to end up with the fifth best record in the East. And yet Dolan somehow expected this to be a championship roster in the weeks after firing the GM, Grunwald, who pieced most of it together.

"When expectations don't match up with the reality of your roster," said the second person, "it rarely goes well. You're always frustrated instead of proud of what you're accomplishing. You're really pissed at 1-3 instead of thinking, 'Hey, in a bad Eastern Conference, let's try to win a round in the playoffs and engineer something to get another really good player,' which is what the Knicks should be thinking."

A Daily News report had Dolan already venting his frustrations on Mills, who had as much to do with a.ssembling the core Knicks as the guys selling pretzels and beer. That's OK. Mills knew exactly what he signed up for. He's a Princeton man who fully understands the terms of MSG engagement.

Grunwald was a 54-game winner last season who presided over the Knicks' first playoff series victory since 2000, and Dolan sacked him in favor of Mills, who gets a second chance in a place that won't offer him a third.

So when Mills does make his big move in the next year or two, it has to work out better than Grunwald's play for Chandler and Walsh's play for Stoudemire. In fact, it has to work out just like Dolan's Melo deal with Denver, minus the surrendered No. 1 pick in next June's loaded draft.

And if it doesn't, Carmelo Anthony will make a hell of a lot more money than Patrick Ewing ever did in New York, and end up with the same amount of rings.

 5 years ago '04        #10502
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Frank Isola

James Dolan was a no-show on Tuesday night at Madison Square Garden so Mike Woodson’s night wasn’t a full-fledged disaster.

There is no telling how Dolan, the Garden chairman, would have reacted immediately following a 102-97 loss to the undermanned Charlotte Bobcats, a game that saw Tyson Chandler suffer a fractured right leg that will sideline the center for four to six weeks. In light of Dolan’s tirade following Sunday’s loss to Minnesota where neither Steve Mills nor the Knicks City Dancers were spared Dolan’s wrath, Woodson got off easy. Well, at least for now.

The Knicks have posted a 1-3 record just weeks after the Daily News reported that Dolan told Woodson and his staff that he expects the Knicks to win a title this year. With Woodson’s top ally, Glen Grunwald, demoted from general manager to adviser before training camp, Woodson is quickly emerging as the fall guy if the Knicks don’t turn things around quickly.

“I have been at this thing 30 years,” Woodson told ESPN Radio in New York on Wednesday. “And the one thing I never and will never do is look over my shoulder. I won’t do that. I got too much pride for that. I think what we have done here for the last few years, we made some major ground and some major steps.

“But this is a different year. That team that played and won 54 games is not here. It is my job as a coach to get this team to jell and play at a high level. If I got to always look over my shoulders, then I can’t do my job, so that is why I never do that. Try to look ahead, that is what is staring at me right now.”

The team that won 54 games included four veterans with playoff experience who policed the locker room. Jason Kidd was the unquestioned leader of the group but he retired to coach the Brooklyn Nets, which is no doubt a sore subject for Dolan.

Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas are also gone, and what remains is a talented team that lacks leadership and has yet to figure out how to play together.

According to a source, Woodson was taken aback by Dolan’s “win-now” edict and privately questioned why the roster didn’t include more veterans with championship DNA. Dolan, though, upset over the Knicks losing to Indiana in six games with Kidd underperforming and Wallace and Thomas out with foot injuries, was intent on bringing in younger players.

That philosophical difference isn’t uncommon between coaching staffs and management, but Dolan doesn’t work well with those who challenge his authority.

He can often be irrational, highlighted by his decision to ban — at least for now — the Knicks City Dancers performing their usual routines. They have not performed in either of the last two home games.

In the long run, Woodson and the Knicks will be better off if Dolan focuses more on the game night entertainment as opposed to the basketball team. Just don’t bet on it.

Dolan has a history of meeting with his head coaches after difficult losses, and sometimes his emotions get the best of him.

He ended Lenny Wilkens’ Hall of Fame career in the blink of a eye by ordering Isiah Thomas to fire the former Knicks coach immediately after a last-second home loss to the Houston Rockets. For a while, Mike D’Antoni stayed one step ahead when he discovered a quick escape route from the Garden on those nights when he wasn’t in the mood to listen to Dolan give the autopsy report. Eventually, he also was fired and replaced by Woodson.

Woodson has played the role of the good company man since being promoted. He accepted Dolan’s ground rules and fired his long-time agent, Keith Glass, because the Glass family had represented Dolan’s all-time adversary, Larry Brown. Woodson also allows himself to be followed by a Garden employee everywhere he goes, whether it’s at home games or on the road. Last season, the employee wouldn’t leave Woodson’s side as the coach met with family and friends outside the visiting team locker room in Atlanta. It was an awkward and uncomfortable scene.

Woodson remains close to Brown, so he knew exactly what he was getting into when he agreed to join the Knicks. But until you experience it you really never fully understand it.

“Expectations are high and they should be,” Woodson told the radio station. “I am not running from that as the coach. As the owner, Mr. Dolan being an owner of our team, he has every right to voice his opinion. This is his team, we all work for Mr. Dolan and I am happy to be a worker for Mr. Dolan.”

 5 years ago '04        #10503
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Ian Begley

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony questioned the team's effort in a players-only meeting following a loss to the Charlotte Bobcats on Tuesday.

"We shut the door after the game and talked it out a little bit and tried to figure out what was happening," Anthony said Friday.

Anthony's message to his teammates was direct.

"We've got to want it, we've got to want to do it. We've got to believe in ourselves, and right now we're playing like we don't even believe in ourselves," Anthony said. "It's just effort."

Anthony said the players also talked about the impact turnovers have had on the team's slow start. New York (1-3) is turning the ball over 16.8 times per game, the 16th-highest rate in the league. Last season, the Knicks had the lowest turnover rate in the NBA.

"You cannot turn the ball over if you want to be a good team in this league," Anthony said. "Hopefully the conversation we had after that game made everybody realize that although it is early there are some things we need to fix and we need to fix now."

Anthony calling his team's effort into question is an indication of how dire things are for the Knicks, who have lost three straight games since a season-opening win against Milwaukee.

New York will be without center Tyson Chandler (broken leg) for at least four weeks, starting Friday night in a road game against the Bobcats. The injury is a crushing blow to a team that entered the season with championship aspirations.

Players have said that everyone from Knicks owner and Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan to the coaching staff is upset over New York's start.

"Nobody is happy right now," Raymond Felton said on The Michael Kay Show on ESPN New York 98.7 on Thursday. "We weren't expecting to be 1-3.

"All I can say to the fans is we do apologize," Felton said during the radio interview. "I am speaking on behalf of myself and my teammates. We do apologize for the way we have been playing. We are not playing Knicks basketball right now. We understand that. We are going to play harder, we are going to play better. It's early on in the season. Just be patient with us."

Felton agreed with Anthony's a.ssertion that the Knicks lack intensity, which is a startling admission for a team that is just four games into an 82-game season.

"I'm not going to sit here and say that the energy is not there," Felton said. "It just seems like teams are playing harder than we are, they want it more than we do. And we've just got to change that.

"Everybody's starting to panic a little bit but we're fine," he added. "We're going through a little slump right now but we'll get through it."

 5 years ago '04        #10504
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should be interesting tonight, if Steve Clifford can't coach tonight against NYK the next in line to takeover till he comes back is Patrick Ewing

 5 years ago '04        #10505
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Free murry!!!

 5 years ago '04        #10506
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Berman

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Thank Patrick Ewing for helping solve the Knicks’ latest crisis at center.

And thank Carmelo Anthony for a players-only meeting staged Tuesday that woke up the troops. And most of all, thank Andrea Bargnani for turning in a performance worthy of the first overall pick in the draft and worthy of, yes, Knicks legend Patrick Ewing.

In Ewing’s head-coaching debut caused by Steve Clifford’s heart procedure, Bargnani played like Ewing and led the Knicks with a spectacular showing as the reeling franchise broke its three-game losing streak in a 101-91 romp over the Bobcats at Time Warner Arena.

“Sometimes you need to just get together and talk and communicate and let it all out and try to figure out what the problem and issue is,’’ said Anthony, who called the team meeting after Tuesday’s loss to Charlotte. “We responded well tonight.’’

Playing their first game without injured center Tyson Chandler (broken fibula), the Knicks were sharp in all facets and Anthony regained his superstar form in scoring a game-high 28 points, with eight rebounds and six a.ssists. He shot a healthy 12 of 22.

But the biggest surprise was Bargnani rising to the occasion as the Knicks’ new starting center, playing with aggression and force on both ends. He finished with 25 points, eight rebounds and five blocks.

“We played like our backs were against the wall,’’ Anthony said. “It was a must-win for us. When you talk about must-wins this early, something obviously is going wrong. We corrected it. We took care of the basketball, played defense and our offense was clicking.’’

It was Bargnani’s first 20-point game as a Knick. After averaging 9.0 points per game, Bargnani shot 11 of 25 in 34:48.

“He had that shoot-first mentality,’’ Anthony said. “He had some of the same looks but he wasn’t hesitating, which I like. He was very aggressive on the offensive end tonight. I guess he was tired of hearing [he wasn’t].’’

Coach Mike Woodson said his a.ssistant coaches gave Bargnani a pep talk at the morning shootaround.

“I’m still trying to learn him as a coach,’’ Woodson said. “I told our coaches, hell, he needs to speak up and talk more and act like he’s a part of this. He was pretty good tonight. He can’t be a tease because I’m going to expect that from him every time.’’

Bargnani and Anthony combined for 53 points as the Knicks moved to 2-3. They also have played their last game without J.R. Smith, who will make his season debut in a Sunday matinee against San Antonio after serving a five-game marijuana suspension.

“We knew it was a must-win for us,’’ Raymond Felton said. “We wanted to get back to Knicks basketball and that’s what we did.’’

Felton, who apologized to Knicks fans Thursday, had a superb outing as the Knicks’ ball movement with their smallball lineup was crisp. Felton scored 15 points, with five a.ssists, one turnover and four rebounds — one of which he converted into a coast-to-coast layup.

The Knicks heated up from the 3-point line with all their open looks, making 12 of 26.

“That’s Knick basketball,’’ Felton said. “We can’t come out and be soft. Andrea was great tonight. He finally found his shot. The ball was moving. We had 25 a.ssists.’’

When the half ended, the usually stoic Bargnani clapped his hands. He knew he had done good. Bargnani was aggressive on defense and smooth on the offensive end. He even tried a crossover dribble at the top of the key, getting to the rack. Though his runner banked off too hard, the play showed he was feeling his oats.

“I got to thank my teammates,’’ Bargnani said. “They were looking for me. It was the teamwork. I didn’t want to be hesitant They helped me a lot and I got to help them. We were really upset that we had three losses in a row and real happy we got the win.’’

Anthony, too, found his mojo, his silky jumper and brutalizing post game after shooting 37.1 percent in the first four games and 37.5 percent in preseason.

“Not yet, not yet,’’ Anthony said when asked if his rhythm is back. “It’s not there yet. I’m working. It’s coming back slowly but surely.”

The virtuoso performance all came after Anthony’s meeting. He questioned the team’s effort, commitment and belief in themselves. Anthony said after Friday’s morning shootaround Friday: “Though it is early, there are things we need to fix and fix now.’’

So they did.

 5 years ago '04        #10507
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Berman

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Mike Woodson confirmed The Post’s report the Knicks would stand pat and not add a center in light of Tyson Chandler’s broken leg that will keep him out 4-to-6 weeks.

Woodson said centers are “scarce’’ and the club will wait for the D-League to start before deciding on anything, claiming there wasn’t any center out there of note. Nevertheless, a source told The Post Knicks owner James Dolan didn’t want to add more salary since they are already paying 16 players this season and are deep in luxury-tax territory.

Jeremy Tyler is not on the roster, but made his $200,000 guarantee despite getting cut in training camp. The Knicks are likely to re-sign him in December and pay him an additional new contract. Tyler will likely first play a few games for Erie. Because the Knicks are over the luxury tax threshold as repeat offenders, each new contract gets taxed by a ratio of 2-1.

“We’re going to stay where we are,’’ Woodson said. “I know this D-League thing is coming up with training camp. We’ll start evaluating our situation. That’s down the road.’’

“You can always cut and get a big but bigs are scarce. It’s hard to find them. If you know of any let me know.’’

Earl Barron and Ike Diogu would have made good fits as rebounders. Barron has had two stints with the Knicks and Diogu excelled in training camp.

But they want to see what they have in Cole Aldrich.

“I know he can rebound,’’ Woodson said. “But again the way we want to make sure he can keep up with the pace.’’

Woodson said Aldrich would get minutes with Chandler’s injury. Aldrich played just 1:29 in the Knicks’ 101-91 win over the Bobcats, but should play more against San Antonio on Sunday if Amar’e Stoudemire sits.

“Any minutes you get is an opportunity to go out there and help the team win,’’ said Aldrich, a former lottery pick out of Kansas. “It’s a huge disappointment Tyson can’t play for 4-to-6 weeks or however long it’s going to be. We all have to make up for it. Tyson is a huge part of our team. We can’t sit around and mope around it. The season continues.’’

The Knicks don’t want to cut J.R. Smith’s brother, Chris, right now until the D-League starts and he will have a place to land. He will play at their D-League affiliate in Erie whether he’s part of the 15-man roster or not. He’s already pocketed his $491,000 guarantee so they want him with the club as a practice player too.

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Woodson has gotten the medical staff to lift Stoudemire’s minutes to 15 but he played 8:28. He shook off some rust and had five points and two rebounds. Kenyon Martin’s 10-minute restriction has risen to the 18-to-20 range but he played 10:06. They both played Friday for the first time this season. … Friday was the last game without J.R. Smith, who returns Sunday from his five-game suspension. “Not having him at the start was a k!ller,’’ Woodson said.

 5 years ago '04        #10508
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Ian Begley

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith will make his debut on Sunday against the San Antonio Spurs after serving a five-game suspension for violating the league's anti-drug ban.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson says Smith, the reigning Sixth Man Award winner, will come off the bench.

"We've just got to make sure that mentally he's there," Woodson said. "And I can't burn him physically."

Smith underwent surgery in July to repair his left patella tendon and a lateral meniscus tear in his left knee and Woodson will limit his minutes to around 30 against San Antonio.

Smith said on Saturday that he still lacks explosiveness in his knee and needs to work on his conditioning.

"I have good days and bad days," the 28-year-old said.

Smith re-signed with the Knicks in July, inking a three-year, $18 million contract. He raised eyebrows around the league by electing to have surgery a week after signing his contract rather than earlier in the offseason. The timing of the procedure caused Smith to miss most of training camp. He played in the Knicks' final preseason game and began serving his suspension in the season opener.

"I can't wait (to return)," Smith said on Saturday. "I'm anxious more than anything. I just want to do so well for my teammates."

Smith should help boost a Knicks offense that ranks 17th in efficiency (points scored per 100 possessions.

He should also provide a scoring punch for the Knicks' second unit. Last year, Smith averaged 18.1 points, 5.3 rebounds and 2.7 a.ssists to earn his first career Sixth Man Award. He struggled in the playoffs though, hitting just 33 percent of his field goals. He was also suspended one game for elbowing Boston's Jason Terry in the face.

Smith blamed himself for the Knicks second-round loss to Indiana but said on Saturday he's no longer fixated on his playoff struggles.

"I really try to leave last season in last season and try to treat every year as a new year," he said. "You can't really hold grudges."

There's a chance Smith will end up in the starting lineup as the season progresses. Woodson has said Smith and Iman Shumpert will battle for the starting shooting guard position.

But with Tyson Chandler sidelined for 4-6 weeks with a fractured right fibula, it makes the most sense for Smith to come off the bench at the moment. Andrea Bargnani is starting at center in place of Chandler so the Knicks need Smith's scoring off the bench.

Woodson will start Raymond Felton, Pablo Prigioni and Shumpert alongside Carmelo Anthony and Bargnani on Sunday against the Spurs. That lineup helped the Knicks to a 101-91 win over Charlotte on Friday night, improving them to 2-3 on the season.

"I liked what we saw (Friday), so we're going to roll with that again (Sunday) and see where we are," Woodson said.

 5 years ago '08        #10509
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Born u think we gotta legit chance to get Love?

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 dj ac said
Born u think we gotta legit chance to get Love?
depending what happens during the summer but yeah

 5 years ago '04        #10511
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Mills and Allan Houston in Chicago watching Wiggins vs. Jabari Parker tonight. Mills has yet to miss #Knicks road trip. Knicks can buy pick

 5 years ago '04        #10512
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Berman

There’s one person even angrier than Knicks owner James Dolan about the 2-4 start and Sunday’s San Antonio slaughter.

That’s part-time power forward Kenyon Martin, who had to watch the entire 120-89 Spurs’ nightmare from the bench. He was shackled by the Knicks medical staff’s new platoon system with Amar’e Stoudemire. On Tuesday, Martin was snappish about the whole subject — another sign of the team unrest.

With coach Mike Woodson ready to change his starting lineup Wednesday in Atlanta in The Guarantee Game, possibly inserting J.R. Smith, the Knicks are a mess.

Martin, the backup battling chronic ankle issues, trashed the Knicks’ performance and said he wishes he could have been let loose on Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter in the disgrace at the Garden. That night, Dolan guaranteed victory in Atlanta on stage at a Manhattan club while playing with his blues band.

“Sunday wasn’t easy by any stretch of the imagination not just for me but for the whole organization — to go out there and lay an egg like that on your home floor,’’ Martin said after Tuesday’s practice. “People pay hard-earned money to come see us play. We shouldn’t put a performance like that out there.’’

Woodson explained he didn’t play Martin in Sunday’s game because the score was too lopsided and wanted to stick to the platoon with Stoudemire in which they rotate games.

“It wasn’t worth doing it,’’ Woodson said.

However, Woodson has said the platoon isn’t set in stone and he could play both players if it’s not a back-to-back scenario.

The whole arrangement appears to be bugging Martin and it has been brewing since preseason when he wasn’t thrilled about playing in only the finale to rest his ankles.

Woodson said Martin will play in Atlanta and Stoudemire will sit. But Martin will be back on the pine Thursday when Dwight Howard, Jeremy Lin and the Rockets invade the Garden.

Martin is also on a 15-to-20 minutes restriction as set by the Knicks medical staff. Martin said it was “difficult’’ to sit during the San Antonio debacle.

“That’s been y’all and Woody,’’ Martin said edgily of the platoon and minute-restriction guidelines. “I’ve told you all I’m fine. Every time you ask me, I’ll give you the same answer, I’m fine — whatever the minutes is.’’

Referring to Tyson Chandler’s broken leg, Martin snapped: “Tyson wasn’t there but I was available. Tyson couldn’t play.

“It was difficult for me to watch any game from the bench, not just a loss. I want to play. I’m a competitor, man. It’s all about winning. It’s all about the team. [But] I want to play.’’

When asked if he’s certain of the platoon guidelines, Martin railed: “You keep talking to Mike about the guidelines. I’m going to worry about us getting better as a team.

“I told you all before. I’m not going to go back and forth with the medical and those numbers. You keep throwing out these minutes. I don’t care about all that. … Guidelines are something for the papers.’’

Last month, Martin said he wouldn’t “press the issue’’ in preseason, but would during the regular season. With the Knicks defenseless against San Antonio, Martin’s energy and toughness could have been used.

“We got to play defense at the beginning of the game like we’re down. We can’t wait to be down and then turn the switch on,’’ Martin said. “By that time we’ve given teams confidence. We just have to have a sense of urgency from the beginning of the game. We can’t think because we’re the Knicks, we can beat every team. A lot of last year isn’t holding up. Teams have gotten better. Teams got pride.’’

Something lacking so far with the Knicks.

“When you’re 2-4, nobody is playing particularly well,’’ Woodson said. “If they were, we wouldn’t be 2-4.’’

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Berman

Clarify. #Knicks can buy late first-round pick for 3M. Even in this great, deep draft, still think there'll be a team. #Knicks hoping so.

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Frank Isola

Talks between the Knicks and Nuggets centered around a deal that would send Iman Shumpert to Denver for forward Kenneth Faried have intensified in recent days, the Daily News has learned.

According to a league source, no deal is imminent, although the struggling Knicks feel they need to make a move to bolster their banged-up front court.

Tyson Chandler is out at least one month after breaking his leg last week while both Amar'e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin have been placed on a minutes restriction because if their health.

Shumpert, a former first-round pick, has fallen out of favor with both head coach Mike Woodson and owner James Dolan. And with J.R. Smith promoted to the starting lineup at shooting guard for Wednesday's game against the Atlanta Hawks, Shumpert will likely lose his starting spot once Chandler returns.

Faried, a native of Newark, N.J., is an undersized power forward but his work rate makes him one of the NBA's top rebounders.

The Nuggets have been a long-time trading partner of the Knicks dating back to Dolan's decision to move Marcus Camby for Antonio McDyess. Of course, the Knicks most famous deal with Denver was the blockbuster deal to acquire Carmelo Anthony.

The Knicks considered signing free agent forward Louis Amundson last weekend before he signed with New Orleans on Monday. In order to sign Amundson the Knicks would have been required to release a player but elected to pass.

 5 years ago '04        #10515
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noooo dont trade shump

 5 years ago '08        #10516
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idk how faried makes us better but its obvious they trying to phase shump out

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 dj ac said
idk how faried makes us better but its obvious they trying to phase shump out
he's basically black D. Lee, unlike Chandler, Faried will be the interior bulldog on both ends of the floor...think K. Mart without the injuries/restrictions years ago

 5 years ago '04        #10518
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ATLANTA — With J.R. Smith making his first start of the season Wednesday night in Atlanta, the future of Iman Shumpert remains up the air.

Though Shumpert will start in a three-guard alignment against the Hawks, it’s clear the Knicks will put Shumpert to the bench when injured center Tyson Chandler returns in a few weeks.

According to sources, Knicks GM Steve Mills has spoken to several teams about Shumpert, but those conversations are in the initial stages, including the long-rumored Knicks interest in Denver’s rebounding power forward Kenneth Faried, who reportedly was being shopped in October.

Faried was drafted in Shumpert’s class in 2011 and their salaries match up. On Oct. 21, The Post reported new Nuggets personnel director Jared Jeffries was in Green Bay, Wis., scouting the Knicks just as the Faried rumors were heating up and had dinner with Mills before the preseason game.

However, the Denver Post reported Wednesday the Nuggets have little interest in sending Faried, a Newark native, to the Knicks for Shumpert. The Nuggets just lost center Javale McGee to a stress-fracture injury, giving them a lack of depth up front.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson was ticked at Shumpert for leaving Las Vegas after just one summer league game in July to go to China. Knicks owner James Dolan also was said to be irate because Shumpert originally didn’t want to show up to Las Vegas, and Dolan threatened to have him traded.

Woodson has been critical of Shumpert since the preseason, calling him a young player with a lot of room to grow offensively. Woodson also has made it a point to say repeatedly how stacked the Knicks are at the shooting-guard position, calling it at times a “logjam.’’

Former Knicks executives Donnie Walsh and Glen Grunwald passed on Faried in the draft to take Shumpert at No. 17 because they didn’t feel Faried had the length to be a top-notch rebounder. But Faried has proven to be an fierce boardman, with career averages of 8.6 rebounds and 26 minutes.

 5 years ago '04        #10519
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An angry Mike Woodson threatened to install a Twitter policy in the wake of J.R. Smith’s latest social-media feud with Brandon Jennings, who criticized Smith’s brother and Knicks teammate Chris. Woodson said he will “address’’ Smith about his latest flap and they spoke before Thursday’s game against the Rockets.

The reigning NBA’s Sixth Man of the Year defended his little brother and appeared to threaten Jennings on Twitter. Jennings, now with the Pistons, criticized Chris Smith for even being on an NBA roster. The NBA is reviewing the situation.

Wednesday night, Jennings wrote: “Wait wait wait JR smith brother is in the NBA but @PoohJeter & @BBROWNLAU isn’t. Call me hater but not Rollin!!!” One of the players, point guard Bobby Brown, was nearly signed by the Knicks this summer before going to China.

The tweet was later deleted. J.R. Smith fired back with on Twitter with a message of his own — also later deleted — in which he said he would send his “street homies” to Detroit. The Knicks face the Pistons Tuesday in Motown.

“No respect for these lil kids who pop at the mouth on twitter an then want to delete they tweets,’’ Smith wrote.

Smith said before the Rockets game he wasn’t threatening Jennings.

“Threatened? No,’’ Smith said. “There’s a way of threatening someone and that’s not the way to publicly threaten somebody. I know Brandon. We have a pretty good relationship before this. Hopefully we’ll continue it afterward.’’

Woodson wasn’t pleased. “I got wind of it and we’ll address it after the game,’’ the Knicks coach said. “If you’re going to tweet, tweet something positive. I don’t know the social-media game. I deal with you guys and keep it moving.”

Smith was fined by the NBA in his first season as a Knick in March 2012, for tweeting a photo of a nekkid woman in his hotel room in Milwaukee.

When asked if he could install a policy, Woodson said it was a good idea.

“It might come to that,” he said. “You just gave me a good idea. I like that.’’
Smith wouldn’t disclose what Woodson said to him and said he hasn’t spoken to the NBA.

“I don’t know what to expect,’’ Smith said. “I didn’t think it was a big deal, apparently it is. I’m always getting in trouble with Twitter. I don’t know what it is. I’m trying to shake it.’’

Smith said he is tired of his brother taking flak for making the Knicks roster.

“It happens every day. People criticize him, telling him what he deserves and doesn’t deserve,’’ Smith said. “I think he works hard for what he does.
“I was definitely frustrated, tired of people picking on my little brother. It is my little brother. I’m going to step up for him — good, bad or ugly.’’
Smith wouldn’t say whether Woodson has banned him from Twitter.

“We spoke,’’ Smith said. “I don’t know if he wants me to talk to you about it.’’

Chris Smith also got in on the action, responding to the slight on Twitter: “If they hate, then let them hate and watch the money pile up‼ everyone have a blessed day from yours true.. jr smiths brother lmao…”

Smith is making $491,000 this season, but is costing the Knicks $2.1 million because of the stringent luxury tax. He is earmarked for the D-League and speculation is he was kept as a lure for J.R. Smith to re-sign for less money with the Knicks.

Smith said he’d like to get Jennings’ number before they face off next week to talk it out. “It’s not that serious,’’ Smith said. “I go to L.A. in the summer and [we] hoop together.’’

 5 years ago '04        #10520
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Iman Shumpert met with Knicks coach Mike Woodson before Wednesday’s win in Atlanta to discuss his uncertain status.

Sources have told The Post Shumpert is on the trading block and Knicks president/general manager Steve Mills is discussing scenarios with teams in an attempt to get frontcourt help and alleviate a shooting-guard glut.

According to Shumpert, Woodson told him what he told the media. Shumpert should be flattered teams are interested in him and take it as a compliment. But Shumpert didn’t say he’s in the clear.

“There’s nothing I can do about it,’’ Shumpert said after Thursday’s 109-106 Houston heartbreaker. “Got to keep playing and limit distractions. I just have to play hard.’’

Asked if he wants to stay a Knick, Shumpert said, “I just want to play ball and try to win. We’re in a slump at home and trying to fix that.’’

Shumpert has fallen out of favor with the organization and Woodson, who has been hypercritical of Shumpert since preseason. One person connected to the team feels he is viewed as a “head case’’ by some of his superiors.

****

Woodson said for now the Kenyon Martin-Amar’e Stoudemire platoon is off after getting approval from the medical staff.
Martin played both ends of the back-to-back, including Thursday’s loss to the Rockets. Martin got in for just 9:59 after going 16 minutes in Atlanta.
Stoudemire will still play every other game. He had a rough 5:03 outing in the first half Thursday when the Knicks were outscored by 10 points. Stoudemire was 0-for-3, getting his inside shot blocked once.

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The Knicks are 0-4 when allowing 100-plus points. … Thursday was the 30th 40-point game of Carmelo Anthony’s career.

 5 years ago '04        #10521
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Carmelo Anthony scored 45 points Thursday, but the points that could have won the game got wiped away by an intentional foul and referee Scott Foster’s whistle.

Anthony’s 3-point miracle shot that could have forced overtime or even won it was waved off with five seconds left as the Knicks lost again to the Rockets in a foul-plagued, controversial 109-106 decision at the Garden. It was fourth straight home loss for the 3-5 Knicks.

It gave Jeremy Lin his third straight win over the Knicks since departing for Houston, as the Rockets swept both games last season. The same defensive problems existed Thursday night. Lin finished with 21 points in 29 minutes, and the Knicks lost despite Anthony and Andrea Bargnani (24 points) combining for 69 points.

The Knicks, who started last season 10-0 at home, still are looking to rediscover the magic formula at the Garden.

“It was a tough one to lose, especially with the effort we put forth,’’ Anthony said. “We have to get over this hump at home. I am at a loss of words.’’

Anthony could have been the hero in Lin’s second return to the Garden with a benefit of a call. For Anthony, it was a similar situation to the game in Chicago on Halloween when he missed a 3-pointer in the closing seconds in the Knicks’ 81-80 loss to the Bulls.

This time, trailing by three points, Anthony drained the 3-pointer, but it didn’t count as referee Foster ruled James Harden intentionally fouled Anthony far enough before the release. After getting hacked, Anthony threw up a prayer, and it sailed through the net as the Garden erupted.

Instead of a potential four-point play, it was ruled a non-shooting foul. With the Rockets in the penalty, Anthony had just two free throws. Coach Mike Woodson screamed for a review, Anthony argued vehemently, shaking his head, and the fans booed. Anthony made both free throws to cut the deficit to 107-106 with 5.0 seconds left, but they fell short.

“It was a tough call, but last year we put a new rule in for these situations and how we go about them,’’ Foster told a pool reporter. “The initial contact was before he started to turn, while his back is to the basket, and then he flings it up.’’

Woodson said he thought the play was reviewable.

“I am up there screaming to try to get it reviewed,’’ Woodson said. “I thought it was close enough to have that play reviewed but they never entertained it.’’

Foster said his judgment on that type of foul is no longer reviewable.

“There’s nothing in the rule book — and there’s 14 triggers — that allows us to review that for continuation,’’ Foster said. “The only thing we can review is whether it’s a two or a three if we’d allowed it to be a made basket.’’

Anthony tried to miss the second free throw but it went in, giving the Rockets the ball up 1. The Knicks fouled Harden and he made both free throws with 2.9 seconds left to make it a 3-point bulge. With no timeouts left, J.R. Smith raced to halfcourt and missed at the buzzer high off the backboard.

Anthony did enough complaining on the court and said he was ready to let it go.

“My thoughts don’t mean anything at his point,’’ he said. “It doesn’t matter if I thought it was a good or not. No reason to keep harping on it. I’ve seen it multiple of times. I don’t want to see it again.’’

According to Anthony, the referees told him they didn’t review it because there were less than two minutes left in the game — contrary to Foster’s postgame comments.

The Rockets have lost two games with late 3-pointers this season and coach Kevin McHale said they have been practicing fouling on the catch at length.

“Houston informs us before the play they are going to take a foul,’’ Foster said. “The initial contact is way before what probably everybody else thinks. It’s a push, a slap and then another slap but we’ve already called the foul on the initial contact. Now he turns and throws it up. It’s not able to be scored that way.’’

Indeed when Iman Shumpert inbounded with 5.8 seconds left, Anthony bobbled the ball.

“He lost the ball up high at first and that’s when I fouled him initially,’’ Harden said. “Then he finally gathered himself and shot it.’’

For Knicks fans, it was a tough loss to swallow, especially on a night Bargnani was so solid on both ends, defending Dwight Howard, who scored just seven points, and making 9-of-12 shots. Anthony scored his season high, making 17-of-30 from the field, hitting 9-of-11 free throws and grabbing 10 rebounds.

“I thought [Bargnani] did a great job defensively, staying in front of him, taking charges, making it tough on him,’’ Anthony said.

 5 years ago '04        #10522
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New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith has been fined $25,000 for directing hostile and inappropriate language to Detroit's Brandon Jennings via his Twitter account, the league announced Friday.

On Wednesday, Jennings sent out the following tweet, which was later deleted: "Wait wait wait JR smith brother is in the NBA but @PoohJeter & @BBROWNLAU isn't. Call me hater but not Rollin!!!"

J.R. Smith responded with a tweet later that night appearing to threaten to send his "street homies" to Detroit, presumably to confront Jennings. Smith also wrote that he had "no respect" for Jennings because of the apparently disparaging comments he directed at Smith's younger brother, Knicks guard Chris Smith.

J.R. Smith said Thursday night that he didn't mean to threaten Jennings and that he was simply defending his younger brother.

"Threaten? No. There's a way to threaten somebody and that's not the way to publicly threaten somebody," Smith said.

Smith has gotten in trouble on Twitter in the past. In March 2012, he was fined $25,000 by the NBA for posting "inappropriate pictures" of a semi-nud3 woman on his Twitter account.

"I'm always in trouble with Twitter," Smith said. "I don't know what it is. I'm trying to shake it."

Smith added that he is considering taking a hiatus from Twitter.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson addressed the issue with Smith prior to Thursday's game.

"My whole thing with that is, if you're going to tweet, tweet something positive," said Woodson, who added that he may require his players to stop using social media in-season.

"It might come to that," he said.

 5 years ago '04        #10523
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As covered here earlier in the week, sources close to the process say that no Iman Shumpert deal is imminent.

However ...

More and more folks around the league see some sort of Shumpert deal materializing sooner rather than later, given that he’s New York’s only real a.sset of value to make an in-season move and with the Knicks increasingly confident that they’ve got enough at the position to handle Shumpert’s exit now that J.R. Smith is back and with rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. looking good early.

Word is that the Nuggets do have a level interest -- just not if the Knicks keep asking them to part with Kenneth Faried in exchange -- while Sacramento is also said to be gauging how Shumpert might fit in.

The reality, though, is that the Knicks had no chance of getting the Nuggets interested in a Shumpert-for-Faried swap without picks to send Denver, too. And the Knicks are essentially bereft of tradeable picks for years.

Yes, plural.

They don’t have an available first-rounder to sweeten a trade until (yikes) 2018. And the best fully unencumbered second-rounder they can put on the table is also in 2018.

 5 years ago '04        #10524
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Two months after getting hit with a five-game suspension by the NBA for failing a third marijuana test, J.R. Smith has been disciplined by the league again.

In his second fine for twitter abuse in 20 months, the Knicks guard was whacked with a $25,000 penalty Friday for “directing hostile and inappropriate language to another player via his Twitter account, in violation of NBA rules.’’ And Knicks coach Mike Woodson is not happy.

Smith recently dodged another Twitter fine, according to a source. On April 20, the renegade shooting guard issued a tweet “Happy 4-20.’’ The NBA mulled disciplining Smith over the tweet, but decided against it, feeling it wasn’t direct enough. April 20 is a day commonly a.ssociated with marijuana use. Sure enough, Smith got nailed four months later for marijuana use in violation of the league’s drug policy.

On Friday, the NBA took action over another offensive tweet from the fingertips of Smith, who went to verbal war this week with the Pistons’ Brandon Jennings.

Smith appeared to threaten Jennings via twitter when he wrote he would send “his street homies” to Detroit. Smith was responding to Jennings’ tweet that Smith’s younger brother, Chris, doesn’t deserve an NBA roster spot over Bobby Brown and Pooh Jeter. The Knicks face the Pistons on Tuesday in Detroit.

On Thursday, Woodson said he would “address’’ the matter with Smith and threatened to shut down his Twitter account.

“There’s got to come a time where you stop putting yourself in that position,” Woodson said Friday on his ESPN radio show. “You can’t keep putting yourself in that position. It’s going to come a time when you keep doing it, eventually no team is going to want to deal with you. You got to learn from it. Those are the things where I’m trying to get this young man to do.”

This is Smith’s second $25,000 fine for tweeting in a long list of transgressions. He was a.ssessed a similar fine in his first season with the Knicks for tweeting a photo of a nud3 woman in his hotel room in Milwaukee.

Smith said Thursday his tweet toward Jennings wasn’t a threat, but rather “frustration’’ over his brother taking flak.

 5 years ago '04        #10525
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Coach Mike Woodson and Iman Shumpert barked at each other on the Garden court Thursday during the Knicks 109-106 loss to Houston at the Garden.

After the exchange, Shumpert walked away from the coach with noticeable disgust and sat on the bench. If their suspect relationship is improving, it wasn’t apparent during the back-and-forth.

Shumpert is on the trading block, and Woodson hasn’t exactly eased the combo guard’s nerves — even after their meeting when the Knicks played in Atlanta on Wednesday. The Knicks face the Hawks again on Saturday at the Garden.

Carmelo Anthony, who is Shumpert’s locker mates at the Garden, said he’s worried the trade chatter will distract Shumpert. Anthony also talked to him about the situation, admitting, “It can get to you.’’

“I have to, I have to,’’ Anthony said about communicating with Shumpert. “We were all in that situation before. Names will always come up. People will always try to figure out what’s the best thing. It’s going to happen. For me I have to be there and have his back and be there for him.

“I know it’s kind of hard for me, or him to listen to that,’’ Anthony added during his foundation’s event in which he distributed food boxes at the Boys Club in The Bronx. “Especially when you hear your name in trade reports and trade rumors. I have to tell him, just focus on basketball, everything else will take care of itself.

“I think when you are a talent like that everyone wants you. That just goes to show you what kind of player he is — for everybody to want you, to be on everybody’s radar.”

After the loss to Houston, Shumpert said there’s “nothing I can do about it’’ regarding trade talk and said he’s trying to “limit the distractions.’’

Anthony, who has been subjected to trade and free-agency talk throughout his career, said he knows it can be stressful.

“It can get to you, it can get to you,’’ Anthony said. “When you’re hearing your name in trade rumors, you can take it two ways, you can take it that people really want you or people don’t appreciate you.’’

According to sources, Knicks president Steve Mills is shopping Shumpert to see if there’s frontcourt help he can add while also removing a shooting-guard glut. Because rookie Tim Hardaway Jr. is playing well, there could be a minutes crunch. Woodson wants J.R. Smith to remain as a starter.

During last February’s trade deadline, a report surfaced the Suns asked about Shumpert in an exchange for Jared Dudley. The Knicks nixed it and Woodson said at the time Shumpert was “a big piece of the future.’’

Woodson has not repeated that line the past few days, only that trade rumors are “part of the business’’ and he still has to play hard while “still in a Knick uniform.’’

On his ESPN radio show Friday night, Woodson said, “I can’t tell any player they are not going to be traded. I’m not in position to do that.”

Woodson has had a problem with Shumpert’s c*cksure attitude for some time, and according to a source, some of his superiors view the Georgia Tech product as “a head case’’ because he always doesn’t take coaching well. Shumpert’s decision to play just one summer-league game in Las Vegas also didn’t sit well with the organization.

The Suns still could be interested in Shumpert. The Lakers, led by former Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni, aren’t a bad candidate either.

D’Antoni is one of Shumpert’s biggest supporters and reprimanded NBA a.ssistant coaches for not naming him to the Rookie-Sophomore game in his first season. Shumpert wound up on the First-Team All Rookie Team in 2012.

Houston’s power forward Omar Asik is on the trading block, too, but the Knicks would have to add salary to a Shumpert package that makes it a difficult exchange. Plus, the Knicks have no first-round picks to deal.

The Pacers also aren’t about to help out the Knicks with a trade, but Indiana adviser and former Knicks president Donnie Walsh still is a fan. Walsh drafted Shumpert in 2011 with the 17th pick in the draft over Denver’s Kenneth Faried, whom the Knicks were attempting to acquire, to no avail.

“Iman had all the ingredients to be a very good NBA guard, a very good athlete,’’ Walsh told The Post after the Pacers knocked out the Knicks last season. “[He’s got] great body intelligence, confidence and ambition. He was a great defender already and will get better with experience. His shooting was not broken but needed work. He obviously did it and has become a very dependable shooter. He will have a terrific career.’’

But the Knicks may not think so.

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NEW YORK -- Knicks guard J.R. Smith accepts his $25,000 fine from the league for tweeting hostile and inappropriate language toward the Detroit Pistons' Brandon Jennings, but he wonders where the loyalty is between NBA players.

On Wednesday, Jennings sent out the following tweet, which was later deleted, in reference to Smith's brother, Chris Smith, who also is on the Knicks' roster: "Wait wait wait JR smith brother is in the NBA but @PoohJeter & @BBROWNLAU isn't. Call me hater but not Rollin!!!"

Smith was asked if Jennings crossed a line or broke an unspoken code between players.

"There's no loyalty in this game, so there is no loyalty player to player," Smith said before the Knicks hosted the Atlanta Hawks on Saturday night. "There's no loyalty between anything in this game. I don't really expect that it should be like that, but it isn't."

Knicks coach Mike Woodson talked with Smith and warned the guard about watching what he does on social media.

"He's just got to clean up," Woodson said. "You know that, and I do. He's got to let things roll off, let it go, and just concentrate on playing basketball."

Woodson said he will not ask Smith or any of his players to stop using social media.

"There's nothing I can do about that," Woodson said. "I can't take that away from him, none of the players; I don't have the right to do that."

Smith got in trouble with his coach and the NBA when he responded to Jennings' tweet by appearing to threaten to send his "street homies" to Detroit presumably to confront Jennings.

Smith also wrote that he had "no respect" in a tweet that appeared to be directed toward Jennings.

"No respect for these lil kids who pop at the mouth on twitter an then want to delete they tweets! #GrowUp! #ManUp! @TheOnlyCSmith0 #Facts!," Smith tweeted.

Smith said he won't shut down his Twitter account.

"No, I'm not going to do that," he said. "I just have to be better at policing myself."

"[Woodson] sent the right message. It's just a matter of me doing the right thing."

Chris Smith, who hadn't appeared in a game this season entering Saturday, was activated by the Knicks before the Hawks game as Metta World Peace sat out with a sore left knee.

 5 years ago '07        #10528
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yo wtf are we doing at home???

 5 years ago '05        #10529
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Trade JR Felton and THJr. Get bargnani more mins in the 4th. Hire an offensive a.ssistant please. This no. Ball movement is fu*kin retarted n*ggas just take jumpshots every possession and sh*t expecting to win...what da fu*k

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on the reals though, i'm a big Felton advocate but he's missing something this yr... JR and Ray are lacking big time... Shump is being Shump, Amare & KMart can only play so much cuz of restrictions... Time to give Beno, Timmy Jr, Bargs, Artest, Pablo, Cole, and maybe Toure some minutes cuz Melo can't do it all

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