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 8 years ago '04        #6781
dogmanx23 9 heat pts
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I guess facts hurt.. awwwwww
 8 years ago '08        #6782
AC_89 196 heat pts196
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I see Timeismoney still defending his boy Nate
 12-13-2009, 09:17 PM         #6783
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New Danilo Gallinari mix
 8 years ago '04        #6784
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how dare anyone question me when it comes to roster moves/spots
 8 years ago '04        #6785
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DAntoni says he may play Jonathan Bender tomorrow, after only two days of practice.
 8 years ago '04        #6786
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can we win our 5th in a row tomorrow?
 8 years ago '04        #6787
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Mike D'Antoni walked from the visitor's locker room inside Staples Center, took the a.ssigned spot in the hallway for another post-game explanation after his Knicks lost to the Lakers, and told the group with tape recorders and notebooks that, "We didn't have this one down as a sure win. It was kind of up in the air."

So at least he still has his sense of humor.

Now he's got a rally, too. Five wins in the last six games has put New York in early playoff contention with a favorable schedule ahead. Still, 8-15 is a 29-53 pace and a three-game decline in what was supposed to be a 2009-10 of hope for the future. So a little gallows humor is probably in order.

The season started 1-9, the worst opening in the history of a franchise that has been around since 1946-47, and the Knicks trailed by at least 20 points in six of the 10. Once, Nov. 11 against Atlanta, the Knicks went from leading by 14 to losing by 13. It was about that time that the anguished looks of the coach became a staple of media coverage.

The likeable D'Antoni -- popular in previous stops, especially Phoenix as the revved offense turned the Suns into an entertainment value as well as a playoff constant -- began to get a backlash from fans who figured last season was the difficult transition period. That was his first in New York. This one was supposed to be about moving forward. He took responsibility for not leading the Knicks anywhere, even as team president Donnie Walsh rightly dismissed such talk with the reminder that it was the front office that put the brakes on immediate rebuilding.

"I hate to put a coach in a position that's a difficult position," Walsh told the New York Times. "And I've definitely done that."

The truth, of course, is that nobody was put in a bad place. D'Antoni either had other offers or would, in time, but chose to join the Knicks as a Walsh hire, presumably aware of Walsh's plan to shed salaries and hold the line on the roster until springing into action with the summer 2010 free-agent bonanza. Nothing that has transpired around Madison Square Garden can be considered a surprise.

"It's tough," D'Antoni said, though he clarified not tougher than he expected. "It's tough on any franchise trying to rebuild, trying to get back on top. There's a certain process you have to go through. We have to get lucky and get into a signing process, but my focus right now is trying to make us better than what we are. And we should be better than what we are, and hopefully we'll get there.

"You just want to win every game. But every season wears on you. Even if you win 60, it's still wearing on you. There's nights that drive you crazy. But these are good kids, men, that are trying to win, so it's fun being in the battles with them. They're listening and trying as hard as they can. That's about all you can ask for."

"As much as you're on board with the plan," came the follow-up question, "are there nights that you as the coach wish that there was ...."

D'Antoni didn't let the sentence finish. He didn't wait for the part about dreaming of more roster help, even if it meant sacrificing a chunk of the war chest for the speculative Summer of LeBron.

"No," he said. "No. I don't waste energy. It's tough enough anyway to coach and I don't waste energy on things, one, I can't control and, two, I'm with us 100 percent so it's not something I even think about."

The four-game winning streak -- with the added credibility of coming at the expense of the Hawks, Trail Blazers and Hornets, along with the Nets -- obviously helps the mood, or at least allows the Knicks to exhale for the first time since November. Most of all, there is still the reality that they weren't supposed to be very good and that just using the word playoffs in some conversations about the Knicks is some accomplishment.

If it's bad for D'Antoni, there has at least been much-needed relief at the quarter pole and, best of all, real encouragement that his world will be considerably better for training camp 2010. The grand prize of LeBron James or not, help is coming.

"We've kind of always felt like when there's a task in front of us, we always tackle the task, maybe to a detriment that we don't look deep enough to see it might be a hole that you can't get out of," D'Antoni's brother, Dan, a Knicks a.ssistant, said of the D'Antoni thinking. "But we've always felt like that if there's a hole, we jump in, we'll climb out. I still think we will. I still think in the end, through his humor and through understanding that the worst thing you do is quit, he won't. He'll bear the moment and whatever it takes to get the Knicks going the right way."


 8 years ago '04        #6788
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Mike D'Antoni indicated that he may give playing time to Jonathan Bender in Tuesday's game at Charlotte.

Bender is attempting a comeback and was signed by New York on Saturday.
 8 years ago '04        #6789
dogmanx23 9 heat pts
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Sucks to be Nate now... Even a guy who hasn't played in 4 years is going to get minutes before him. Nate is done in NY.
 8 years ago '04        #6790
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Bobcats guard D.J. Augustin has been in the doghouse of coach Larry Brown and the Knicks are reportedly keeping their eyes on him.

A team source told the New York Daily News that the Knicks had extensive talks with the Bobcats last season about a deal for Augustin.

"He was part of a bigger deal," the source said. "But I know the Knicks like him very much."

Brown doesn't like the way Augustin has defended, shot or distributed the basketball lately.

Another source added that Brown is opening to trading Augustin, but has been overruled by executive Michael Jordan.
 8 years ago '06        #6791
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 Born_Loser said:
Bobcats guard D.J. Augustin has been in the doghouse of coach Larry Brown and the Knicks are reportedly keeping their eyes on him.

A team source told the New York Daily News that the Knicks had extensive talks with the Bobcats last season about a deal for Augustin.

"He was part of a bigger deal," the source said. "But I know the Knicks like him very much."

Brown doesn't like the way Augustin has defended, shot or distributed the basketball lately.

Another source added that Brown is opening to trading Augustin, but has been overruled by executive Michael Jordan.
If there were ANY truth to these rumors, a 3rd team would likely have to be involved. The only reasonable pieces I could say being exchanged from the Knicks side would be Nate or Chandler (and Jeffries who's an LB guy that would likely be included in ANY future deal). I just don't see the Bobcats need for either of those 2.

There always seems to be a rumor for a player that just so happens to be playing that night against the Knicks, coincidence?
 8 years ago '04        #6792
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alanhahn

Sounds like the Augustin rumor is a bit dusty. What I'm hearing is that the Knicks inquired about DJ in the summer. Nothing materialized.
 8 years ago '04        #6793
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 DRuNk 24/7 said:
If there were ANY truth to these rumors, a 3rd team would likely have to be involved. The only reasonable pieces I could say being exchanged from the Knicks side would be Nate or Chandler (and Jeffries who's an LB guy that would likely be included in ANY future deal). I just don't see the Bobcats need for either of those 2.

There always seems to be a rumor for a player that just so happens to be playing that night against the Knicks, coincidence?
Pretty much. How would you feel if they traded Chandler in some type of future deal?
 8 years ago '04        #6794
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man, i stopped playing Borderlands to watch 9 TO's, f**k outta here
 8 years ago '07        #6795
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tough loss tonight

gotta love the way jeffries is playing though
 8 years ago '04        #6796
dogmanx23 9 heat pts
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Even tho this game was ugly we should have won this. I don't understand why bring in Hughes when he was playing like crap on both ends. 6 To's and 3-10 and his D was horrible. Gallo was off tonight but you know his shot is deadly and his D was good in this game.

Just when you think D'Antoni has figured out his subbing patterns he does something stupid like this.

Hughes couldn't score at the end and on that last layup by Felton he got broken by him. I hate losing to Larry Brown.

Jeffries just became tradable after tonight.
 8 years ago '04        #6797
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The sooner we trade Jeffries the better, I cant stand that dude. That 4th quarter was the absolute worst. And yeah, losing to Larry Brown burns me up.
 12-16-2009, 06:46 AM         #6798
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D'Toni is a terrible coach why he doesn't have a ring with tons of talent. Making Nate the great a cheerleader
 8 years ago '06        #6799
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 dogmanx23 said:
Even tho this game was ugly we should have won this. I don't understand why bring in Hughes when he was playing like crap on both ends. 6 To's and 3-10 and his D was horrible. Gallo was off tonight but you know his shot is deadly and his D was good in this game.

Just when you think D'Antoni has figured out his subbing patterns he does something stupid like this.

Hughes couldn't score at the end and on that last layup by Felton he got broken by him. I hate losing to Larry Brown.

Jeffries just became tradable after tonight.
Summed it up perfectly...

We've all gotten on D'Antoni about his substitution patters, but I won't jump ship and call for his head. I just wish he stayed with Gallo in the 4th. Though his shot was off, he is smart and controlled with the ball and possesses a k!ller instinct and could go off at any time. Instead, he rolled with both Hughes and Harrington who both were in full-on chuck mode last night.
 8 years ago '06        #6800
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 tazbk said:
Pretty much. How would you feel if they traded Chandler in some type of future deal?
I like Chandler, but he's been extremely inconsistent. He lacks confidence and settles for the jumper. He has a great mid-range game and the ability to take it to the rack...he just doesn't. When he does, the kid is great. And he has a knack for hitting some pretty big shots down the stretch.

The thing about Wilson is although he's versatile, he's not a 2. His position becomes redundant especially if we were to sign LBJ. We have a glut of forwards and he could get lost in the mix.

If a deal came along to help us improve our roster BALANCE (a PG or SG) without sacrificing in talent, I wouldn't be opposed. I also wouldn't be opposed in using him to shed Curry's contract for an expiring, or a complimentary vet on a longer deal in the offseason.

I like Wilson, and would like to see him a.ssume Harrington's role off the bench next season. But anythings possible when it comes to future dealings with this team.
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