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 9 years ago '04        #6726
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all i gotta say about this s**t is that if we get back "He Who Shall Not Be Remained" get JJ's and Curry Fried Chicken's contract outta here...personally, i would have loved for Noah (eventhough i hope the camera stayed away from his "GANGSTA GRI-ZILLS") to head on over here since i love his game but Thomas ain't a bad option either, he needs a change of scenary.....we just own a 2nd round pick (according to Hahn we own two), maybe we can package those 2 2nd round picks and a player for a 1st rounder (Houston maybe).....it's obvious we might end up playing with the Youth Movement sooner than expected this year, might as well move out the last 2 remaining "bad" contracts to improve the immediate future sooner

 9 years ago '04        #6727
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Mike D'Antoni seemed annoyed at questions about whether he would meet with Nate Robinson to address his playing time and role on the team.

"I don't do formal meetings," D'Antoni said. "I don't put a tux on. But I do talk to him every day and point out to the whole team what we need to do to get better as a team."

D'Antoni said the recent play of Toney Douglas is a major factor in his decision to give the rookie guard Robinson's spot in the rotation over the last two games.

"It's also that Toney Douglas has played great," D'Antoni said.

 9 years ago '04        #6728
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NEW YORK -- Brandon Jennings could have helped the Knicks, as president Donnie Walsh realized last July while watching the 6-foot-1 rookie attack the Las Vegas Summer League.

Walsh tried to turn the episode into one of those "teachable moments." "When I saw him play in Vegas, I did go to our scouts and I told them, 'Look, if you knew he was that good you should have come to me every day in my office and said, 'You've got to look at this guy,'" said Walsh. "I said, 'I listened to you. You said, 'He's good,' but that was about it."

Instead of drafting Jennings to fill their need for a leader at point guard, the Knicks used the No. 8 pick on power forward Jordan Hill, who is so raw he has earned no more than 7.8 minutes in nine games for 4-14 New York. The Knicks' choice created gasps of relief in Milwaukee, where the Bucks used the No. 10 pick on Jennings, who was the top player on their board. The 20-year old has turned out better than even the Bucks envisioned while averaging 21.8 points, 5.7 a.ssists and 1.2 steals to lift them to a surprising 9-7 start.

This was not a franchise-killing mistake by the Knicks. Jennings may cool down after his hot start, and Hill may yet learn to fulfill his athletic potential.

The decision to pass on Jennings is above all an example of how Walsh is steadily attempting to transform his franchise without resorting to quick fixes. For one thing, he has continued to rely on a scouting staff a.ssembled by predecessor Isiah Thomas. "When I come in anywhere, I don't fire everybody," said Walsh. "I wanted to give the scouts, the front office people, the opportunity to show me what they can do. So I just haven't [replaced them]."

It's not like he hasn't had other things to do: Walsh has created cap space for 2010 while instilling the Knicks with newfound financial discipline across the board. "I could have hired some amazing people," said Walsh, who was rumored to be courting Billy Knight, Chris Mullin and Mark Warkentien as prospective GMs. "But there are some things you can't ask the owner to do, and that's eat some of these (front-office and scouting department) numbers."

It's fair to a.ssume that Cablevision's ongoing spin-off of Madison Square Garden involves a scrutiny of the books and a demand for fiscal responsibility. But Walsh would be pursuing restraint under any circumstances.

"This is a true rebuilding job in a lot of ways, other than just personnel," he said. "It's culture, it's everything."

That's why he takes a big-picture view of the decision to bypass Jennings. Ultimately the responsibility for that move falls on Walsh, who made astute draft picks thanks to the deep scouting staff he a.ssembled in Indiana during his 22 years in charge of the Pacers. "When the draft room opens up, you've got to tell me what you think and don't play politics with it," he said, while acknowledging that he must differentiate the boldly-opinionated scouts from the fence-sitters who bend with the prevailing opinion. "Unfortunately, every scouting room does do that -- they check out where the coach is, you know, and they try to align themselves. I knew who they were in Indiana; here I didn't quite know.

"But I'm in good company," added Walsh of his ambivalent view of Jennings before the draft. "Because there were a lot of guys who passed on him and didn't know his game."

Eventually Walsh will keep some current staffers for the long-term and replace others. But it goes without saying that some of the people he inherited were unwilling to stick their necks out for him, if for no other reason than they didn't know him and lacked rapport with the new boss. "It could be that," he said. "And I'm trying to change it. I put Misho (Ostarcevic, the Knicks' new player personnel director) -- a guy I had in Indiana -- in charge of [scouting] for that reason."

Walsh has also hired former Orlando GM John Gabriel as director of pro scouting and free agency. "It's kind of like what I'm hearing with the players: They don't think they're going to be here, so they don't want to play hard," said Walsh. "I'm like, 'What are you talking about?' They've got to play hard, and I haven't said I wouldn't take them back (as free agents), because if they're good enough, that would be one of my options. So that doesn't compute to me, the same way if you've got scouts working for you -- they work for the New York Knicks."

More important to Walsh was his 2008 hiring of coach Mike D'Antoni, who had won 232 games over four full seasons with Phoenix. D'Antoni remains the Knicks' biggest a.sset as they move toward free agency with cap space for one max player this summer in addition to a second free agent who can be paid more than the mid-level exception. Walsh has noticed that opposing stars personally greet D'Antoni on the sideline before playing against his Knicks. "Oh yeah, every one of them," said Walsh. "I think a lot of it had to do with the Olympic team (which D'Antoni served as a.ssistant). The word got around about the way he plays, the way he coaches, and people have liked it."

"He's the most positive guy I've ever met," said Walsh, who then recalled how D'Antoni tried last summer to convince himself that New York's transitional roster could be a big winner this season. "He'd tell me that, and I'd say, 'Mike ... be careful.' He might over-emphasize what they can do and what they can't do." D'Antoni's optimism was rewarded as the Knicks shocked the West-leading Suns -- and themselves -- with a 126-99 upset Tuesday, but D'Antoni wisely declined to make too much of one win by his 4-14 team.

The NBA separation of church and state -- the checks and balances that balance winning in the short term and planning for the years ahead -- is clearly defined in New York. When the Knicks upgrade their roster they'll have a coach capable of exploiting that talent. In the meantime they have a 68-year-old president who is capable of absorbing the painful transformation.

"If a younger guy took this job, the pressures on him [would] be tremendous to do something to make this team better this year," said Walsh from his courtside seat Tuesday during the pregame warmups. "I'm not there anymore. In fact, a couple of young GMs called me up (after the Knicks hired him in April 2008) and said, 'Congratulations on New York ... but boy, you've got a tough job.'

"I said, 'Let me tell you something. If you're going to take a job like this, make sure it's your last job. Because if you're trying to build your reputation it might be harder on a (young) guy. I've had my day in the sun and all that."

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 9 years ago '04        #6729
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Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni spoke of rumors linking the team to Chicago's Tyrus Thomas recently.

New York team officials claim that the Bulls are shopping Thomas, who is currently nursing a broken forearm, and that Chicago has interest in Al Harrington.

"I did say something how I've always liked him, but I don't know," D'Antoni said of Thomas. "I think he's a fine player. I think Tyrus is a good player, but I think Al's a good player."

D'Antoni added that because of New York's 5-15 record, general manager Donnie Walsh is more active than usual.

"When you're in a certain position, you're going to call around the league and you're going to look at everything," D'Antoni said. "I think we're in that position where we look at everything. You try to do things that make you better or something for the future, and I'm sure that's something we'll do if it arises."

 9 years ago '04        #6730
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Knicks forward Al Harrington's name has been mentioned in trade rumors this month.

The Bulls are believed to be shopping forward Tyrus Thomas and they like Harrington.

"He's got a broken arm," Harrington said of Thomas. "I might as well be traded for a bag of balls."

"I hope not," he added of possibly getting traded. "I love New York. I love being a Knick. I told ya'll that. I want to be part of this when it's turned around. Not trying to go somewhere else."

 9 years ago '04        #6731
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Peter Vecsey of the New York Post wrote on Sunday that the Knicks are not interested in trading for Chicago forward Tyrus Thomas.

Vecsey points out New York executive Donnie Walsh's soft spot for Al Harrington, who the Bulls are reportedly targeting, and reports that Walsh hasn't had a single conversation with Chicago about such a deal.

 9 years ago '04        #6732
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FYI the Wizards are trying to move Mike James and his expiring 6.5 mill contract

 9 years ago '04        #6733
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Knicks president Donnie Walsh is fine with coach Mike D'Antoni's decision to demote guard Nate Robinson six weeks into the season.

"Mike is in charge of that," Walsh said Saturday. "I'm supportive of whatever he does. I think it's been difficult with this team to come up with a rotation. I think he's given everybody time, so at some point he's got to come up with a rotation to win with. If a guy's not in it, he's not in it."

Robinson has been losing minutes to rookie guard Toney Douglas, mainly because of his showboating and on-court antics.

The guard received a $2 million raise from New York as a restricted free agent this past offseason.

 9 years ago '06        #6734
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lets gooooo i want more wins, i dont want the jazz to end up with a top 3 pick
f**k them n*ggas

 9 years ago '04        #6735
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def. gonna try and win some tickets for tonights game via twitter....nebody with that s**t, follow the Knicks for a chance to win a pair of tickets....they do this s**t about twice a week

 9 years ago '04        #6736
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Knicks president Donnie Walsh said Sunday that he is not shopping forward Al Harrington despite rumors to the contrary.

Harrington may remain in New York's starting lineup for the long haul after lighting up New Jersey for 26 points, 14 rebounds and five a.ssists on Sunday afternoon.

"I'm not focused on trading Al," Walsh said. "I'm not out there trying to trade Al."

The Knicks and Bulls have been linked in rumors surrounding a possible trade involving Harrington and Tyrus Thomas.

"We're out there talking to teams to see if there's interest to see if we can get somebody who can help us," Walsh said. "That's it."

 9 years ago '07        #6737
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larry legend going off on the blazers

 9 years ago '07        #6738
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3 game winning streak :applause:

 9 years ago '04        #6739
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hopefully Drunk got some pics from the game....i ain't buying no Christmas presents next year, would have been there tonight

 9 years ago '07        #6740
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 Born_Loser said
hopefully Drunk got some pics from the game....i ain't buying no Christmas presents next year, would have been there tonight
drunk, u better have some close ups of the c*ck

 9 years ago '04        #6741
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 Truth B T0ld said
drunk, u better have some close ups of the c*ck
gotta support the S.M.G. movement

 9 years ago '04        #6742
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Even the NBA is anticipating big things out of the Knicks in 2010. The league has included them in its annual exhibition schedule for next season and, according to a league executive, the Knicks will play in Milan and Paris in early October.

The team has held training camp at Skidmore College in Saratoga Springs for the past two seasons, but next year, the team likely will hold camp at the MSG Training Center in Greenburgh before departing for Italy on Oct. 1.

The first game is tentatively slated for Oct. 3 against Armani Jeans Milano, the former team of Danilo Gallinari, in his hometown. Mike D'Antoni also played 13 seasons in Milan and coached the team from 1990-94. He spent eight seasons as a coach in Italy.

The Knicks then will travel to Paris for a preseason game against an NBA team. It will be the first time the Knicks will play overseas in 20 years. Their last European appearance came in October 1990 in Barcelona, Spain.

Knicks fix

Eddy Curry was in uniform for last night's game, which came as somewhat of a surprise to D'Antoni, who initially planned to work Curry back in during practice this week and play him Friday in New Orleans. Curry missed the previous seven games with a knee injury and worked out at the MSG Training Center while the team was on the road. D'Antoni had said Curry would be part of his tight rotation once he returned, but he remained on the bench last night mainly because he didn't get in any practice time with the team . . . It was "Garden of Dreams" night, featuring children from the foundation participating in various events during the game, such as with the Knicks City Dancers, an MSG photographer and an MSG Network reporter.

 9 years ago '04        #6743
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The New York Knicks will travel to Italy next year and play at least one exhibition game in Milan, according to two people with knowledge of the team's plans.

The trip will be a homecoming of sorts for Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni, a star player and coach in Italy, as well as forward Danilo Gallinari, a native of Milan.

 9 years ago '04        #6744
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The Knicks will travel to Italy next preseason to play an exhibition game in Milan, the hometown of forward Danilo Gallinari.

Gallinari said he "will probably cry" when he returns to Milan with his New York teammates next October.

"It will mean so much to me," he said of the NBA's tentative plans.

 9 years ago '04        #6745
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Marc Berman reports that the final episode before the decision to bench Nate Robinson came when the guard was laughing with Dwight Howard before the Knicks' game against the Magic last Wednesday.

"I know there's a lot of little things that build up," Mike D'Antoni said. "I don't know if there was a last straw. But I do know a lot of focus is on Toney Douglas and it has a lot to do with him."

Robinson did not play for the fourth straight game in the Knicks' win over the Blazers on Monday night, the team's third consecutive victory.

 9 years ago '04        #6746
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FYI Jerry'd Bayless is trying to get himself traded outta Portland

 9 years ago '06        #6747
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 Born_Loser said
FYI Jerry'd Bayless is trying to get himself traded outta Portland
I don't blame him, Pritchard is "Pritch-Slapping" himself at the moment with all this talent.

I like how he's put together one of the youngest and most talented teams in the league, but there comes a point where you have to package that young talent to bring in better QUALITY talent.

Continuing to stack talent doesn't bode well in the long run. It causes rifts in the locker room, hurts players future pay, and stunts the potential growth of these guys.

Signing Andre Miller was one of the biggest mistakes that franchise has made in a long time. I love Miller's game, but he does not mesh well AT ALL with Brandon Roy. Roy needs the ball in his hands, and a PG who can play off the ball (Blake/Bayless). Instead, he adds a vet to the mix that DOESNT EVEN PLAY...and when he does, he pushes back Bayless on the depth chart and forces Bayless to say he wants out.

It sucks that injuries are plaguing them this season, I was looking forward to watching them in the post season. But if they are still looking to compete this year, moves NEED TO BE MADE!

Miller and Bayless must net them depth and a quality big.

 9 years ago '04        #6748
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Knicks center Eddy Curry is ready to return to the court on Friday, but doesn't want to mess up what his teammates have going.

New York has won four of their last five games.

"I want to try to blend in and not mess them up," Curry said. "They're really rolling right now. I don't want to be the reason we lose the game. It's going to be touchy for me. I trust Coach puts me in there when he feels I'm ready."

Curry added that he doesn't care if he's trade bait as some rumors suggest, he just wants to play basketball.

"Trade bait?" he asked reporters. "I'm going to relish any moment I can to play. Whether playing me to trade me, or playing me because they want to win games, it doesn't matter to me. I just want to get out there. Although I don't want to be traded."

 9 years ago '06        #6749
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ESPN Insider has a piece written by David Thorpe that ranks the Top 20 Sophomores in the game today. It's been kind of like a "Power Ranking" article that's being updated throughout the season.

Anyone have the full article?

I know these are Thorpe's Top 5, as of the moment...
1. Brook Lopez
2. Marc Gasol
3. Jason Thompson
4. Ersan Ilyasova
5. Russel Westbrook

And Thorpe had some interesting comments about my boy Danilo Gallinari that I could not believe anyone affiliated with ESPN would ever say giving praise to something/someone Knicks related....

8. Danilo Gallinari, Knicks | Previous rank: 13
The Knicks are on the upswing, and Gallo is part of the reason why. He continues to be a shooting threat and has scored in double figures in three of their recent wins. He's also making defensive contributions, adding 1.8 steals and 1.3 blocks so far in December.

Knicks fans are surely envisioning his skills meshing well with a certain MVP-caliber 3-man. I'll put it another way: If Gallo was a Cav, Cleveland would be the best team in basketball.
:surprised:

 9 years ago '04        #6750
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hearing s**t like that only makes me say f**k YOU to everybody on here and at MSG who laughed when i was the only Gallo supporter

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