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 11 years ago '06        #121
hooligun 12 heat pts12
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lakers gotta make a trade... no way there gonna get past phoenix with that team.
 07-25-2007, 10:26 AM         #122
G Tizzle  OP
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You're right! but with Fisher back, thats a start.
I also think re-signing Mihm was stupid as fu*k, but we all already know how stupid the Lakers Orginization is (unfortunatly)
 07-26-2007, 11:44 AM         #123
G Tizzle  OP
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I cant wait to see what coming for next season!
 07-26-2007, 12:31 PM         #124
dvd07  OP
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KOBE MVP!!!!!!

a good lil read i found........

What has been Mitch Kupchak’s biggest mistake during his tenure as the Lakers GM?

The easy answer here would be to say the Shaq trade, but I don’t think that falls on Mitch. It is clear Jerry Buss made the decision to make the trade, then Mitch got stuck having to do it fast to make sure Kobe didn’t jump to another team that free agency period. So he got what he could get.

I think his biggest mistake has been one of philosophy — the Lakers have simultaneously tried to build both to win now and for the long term. With Kobe at his prime, with Phil Jackson as the coach, the effort for the last few years should have been to build a contender fast and around Bryant, but some moves (such as an apparent desire not to trade Andrew Bynum) appear to be made with the longer term in mind. The front office (and the decision makers with the Lakers go beyond just Mitch — Jim and Jerry Buss both are involved, although its hard to tell how much) needs to chose one philosophy and go after it.
 07-26-2007, 12:39 PM         #125
dvd07  OP
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another interesting article regarding point guards under phil...obviously we know pgs aint THAT important under him and winterss triangle O, but here are the numbers

Phil Jackson Teams -- no Point Guard needed?
By Hans Uy

Of all Phil Jackson coached teams, no point guard has ever averaged more than 5.5 a.ssists per game. Only Gary Payton did 5.5apg in the 2003-04 season. Over a period of 16 seasons, only four point guards have managed to get above 4 a.ssists per game under Phil Jackson as shown in the table below:

Season Player APG
89-90 John Paxson 4.1
BJ Armstrong 2.5
90-91 BJ Armstrong 3.7
John Paxson 3.6
91-92 BJ Armstrong 3.2
John Paxson 3.1
92-93 BJ Armstrong 4.0
93-94 BJ Armstrong 3.9
Steve Kerr 2.6
94-95 BJ Armstrong 3.0
95-96 Ron Harper 2.6
96-97 Ron Harper 2.5
97-98 Ron Harper 2.9
99-00 Ron Harper 3.4
Derek Fisher 2.8
Brian Shaw 2.7
00-01 Derek Fisher 4.4
Brian Shaw 3.2
01-02 Derek Fisher 2.6
02-03 Derek Fisher 3.6
Brian Shaw 1.5
03-04 Gary Payton 5.5
04-05 Smush Parker 3.7
05-06 Smush Parker 2.8

Among all players, the best a.ssists per game average in a season belonged to Scottie Pippen who averaged 7.0 apg in the 1991-92 season wherein he had an astonishing 21 ppg 7.7 rpg 7.0 apg season.

Best APG Seasons Under Phil Jackson

Player APG Season
Scottie Pippen 7.0 91-92
Scottie Pippen 6.3 92-93
Michael Jordan 6.3 89-90
Scottie Pippen 6.2 90-91
Michael Jordan 6.1 91-92
Scottie Pippen 5.9 95-96
Kobe Bryant 5.9 02-03
Scottie Pippen 5.8 97-98
Scottie Pippen 5.7 96-97
Scottie Pippen 5.6 93-94
Kobe Bryant 5.5 01-02
Gary Payton 5.5 03-04
Lamar Odom 5.5 05-06

Only 2 players have surpassed the 6 apg mark in PJ-coached teams and this was all on or before the 92-93 season.

But another peculiar observation: Even if Phil Jackson’s point guards seem to be low in a.ssists, all of his teams have out-assisted their opponents.

Season Team
Assist Total Opponent
Assist Total Difference
89-90 2172 2110 62
90-91 2212 2016 198
91-92 2279 1841 438
92-93 2133 1918 215
93-94 2102 1840 262
94-95 1970 1713 257
95-96 2033 1592 441
96-97 2142 1619 523
97-98 1952 1595 357
99-00 1921 1597 324
00-01 1888 1659 229
01-02 1882 1643 239
02-03 1919 1753 166
03-04 1948 1708 240
05-06 1734 1730 4
06-07 1850 1798 52


Hans is an IT professional in Manila, Philippines and a long time fanatic of NBA and NBA statistics. He got hooked by playing NBA fantasy sports for the past 7 years, oftentimes being accused of cheating by his league-mates of exploiting system deficiencies. You can reach him through email at .
 07-26-2007, 05:30 PM         #126
G Tizzle  OP
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thats crazy about the point guard stats, I never knew that. He's got other tricks up his sleeve. Thats he got those rings.
 08-02-2007, 11:39 AM         #127
TruLAFan  OP
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yea, its true that the lakers dont need a great pg to win. but they do need a pg who can keep his man in front of him, not like sumsh and chucky atkins. Thats why I think getting D Fish back is a good start
 09-03-2007, 03:27 PM         #128
TruLAFan  OP
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damn this thread is dead, are there any laker fans out there?
 11 years ago '05        #129
DMT|B 3 heat pts
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big lakers fan right here and i definely agree getting fisher back was a great thing now we gotta build on dat
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 11 years ago '05        #130
Quddus 12 heat pts12
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I am still not sold. Kobe still can't do it all by himself. Someone on that team is going to have to step up and there defense was just horrible in the playoffs.

I feel so bad for 24
 11 years ago '05        #131
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 Quddus said:
I am still not sold. Kobe still can't do it all by himself. Someone on that team is going to have to step up and there defense was just horrible in the playoffs.

I feel so bad for 24
lets just hope and pray the lakers make a move before the trade deadline
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 11 years ago '06        #132
KinGOFthaRING 
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its good to see a old face back ......
 11 years ago '04        #133
casper 1 heat pts
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its gonna be a painful season if nothing happens soon, next offseason could be the worst for us laker fans if nothing happens now
 11 years ago '06        #134
KinGOFthaRING 
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can't wait for the season to start...underdawgs in the West
 11 years ago '04        #135
DPGUNIT 1 heat pts
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we can do it yall maybe all that sh*t Kobe talked about Bynum will make him more aggresive
 11 years ago '05        #136
lakersboy03 6 heat pts
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Too be honest...I'm not even exicted for this season....its gonna be a lot of the same from the last two years....and with an unhappy Kobe whos waiting for his contract to expire....Bynum better start beasting
 09-17-2007, 05:01 PM         #137
King_J  OP
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i ain't a big believer in baby bynum yet...he needs to prove he belongs EARLY on this season, or we're getting rid of his a.ssss
 11 years ago '06        #138
KinGOFthaRING 
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 King_J said:
i ain't a big believer in baby bynum yet...he needs to prove he belongs EARLY on this season, or we're getting rid of his a.ssss
consistency is key for him to prove to us Lakers fans that he is the real deal...

and another thing...everybody needs to stay healthy this year....
 10-09-2007, 11:14 PM         #139
ElMarroAfamado  OP
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fu*k MAN!
its soo cool/refreshing to see Derek backi n a Lakers UNI

 11 years ago '05        #140
lakersboy03 6 heat pts
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mannnnn...>Radmonvic looks like he lost a lotta weight...I forgot he was even on the team but he looks ok....Fish will be a niceaddition....but I know its preseason but we are still having trouble in transition defense
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