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 11 years ago '04        #41
glennrobinson31  OP
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The Trade Will happen before the end of the day tomarrow.
 11 years ago '06        #42
Swishadude 5 heat pts
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fu*k you McHale. You gave away our first round pick for Marko Jaric. We couldve used that to get AI, now we are struggling to make a deal.
 11 years ago '05        #43
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 Counterfeit215 said:
^^^^Iversons past his prime...Hes almost 30...Hes on the downcome of his career, Hes more injury proned then ever...He always seems to causes problems inside the organization...and hes contracts huge...

31 avg. 30 points and your sayin he's past his prime b/c he stopped crossing n*ggas over? come on man do u guys really watch sports A.I still will be in my top 10 lottery picks.
 11 years ago '04        #44
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 dmunson318 said:
31 avg. 30 points and your sayin he's past his prime b/c he stopped crossing n*ggas over? come on man do u guys really watch sports A.I still will be in my top 10 lottery picks.
I agree with you^^^. he top 3 in scoring,plays hurt,can get to the basket against anyone.if he used the crossover in todays nba he would be called for a carry,palming,traveling, get thrown out the game etc. he doesnt need the crossover to beat his man off the dribble. anybody who knows anything about the game or has played it knows A.I. is still the truth!!
 12-14-2006, 04:24 PM         #45
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so you know that it's denver eh?
 11 years ago '04        #46
glennrobinson31  OP
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It WILL be the nuggets, and it will happen before the end of tomarrow aslong as it all doesnt fall apart. Denver trying to get a third team involved, possibly the blazers or the bobcats.
 11 years ago '06        #47
Swishadude 5 heat pts
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^^^ realgm = rumors
 12-14-2006, 04:43 PM         #48
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 glennrobinson31 said:
It WILL be the nuggets, and it will happen before the end of tomarrow aslong as it all doesnt fall apart. Denver trying to get a third team involved, possibly the blazers or the bobcats.
i pray you're wrong but i think you're right =/
 11 years ago '04        #49
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 Swishadude said:
^^^ realgm = rumors

Isnt from Realgm, i was posting my information before realgm had denver as the front runner on there page, i have a inside source. Like i said, after it happens tomarrow, unless it falls apart somehow, everyone doubting me can press the props button.
 12-14-2006, 04:51 PM         #50
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 11 years ago '04        #51
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 RediKnight said:

Pretty much what i was talking about last night, before that article even came out.
 12-14-2006, 05:33 PM         #52
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 glennrobinson31 said:
Pretty much what i was talking about last night, before that article even came out.
Who is your source? Is it Deep Throat?

Confess or I'll E-Assassinate you!!!!!
 11 years ago '06        #53
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It might not seem like it, as we approach the completion of Week 1 on the Allen Iverson Watch.

But there is a race going on here.

It might not be a fast race, true, but it does sound as though Denver, Minnesota and Boston are all jockeying to come up with the large expiring contract that can clinch victory in the Iverson Sweepstakes.

"If one of those three teams had a last-year guy like P.J. Brown or a Jerry Stackhouse or a Jamaal Magloire [to send to the Sixers], I think the deal would be done," said one Western Conference executive.

I've also been warned not to ignore the gate-crashers from Miami. So …

With that in mind – and with our continuing caution/belief that the offers can only get better if Philly shows some patience, to allow some of the desperation to shift from the Sixers to others – here's a helping of the latest Iverson dish as of lunchtime Thursday:



DENVER NUGGETS

They're the front-runners for a few reasons.

1. They've got two first-round picks in June to offer, potentially giving Philly three firsts in a draft that already has scouts salivating.

2. They've got a small handful of contracts that expire either this season or next season to coincide with Chris Webber's deal playing out in '07-08.

3. They're in the West, which is obviously where Philly would prefer to send A.I.

The main obstacles: Denver, according to NBA front-office sources, is determined not to include Marcus Camby in any deal and also remains very reluctant to part with summer steal J.R. Smith.

A reversal on Smith would certainly enhance the Nuggets' chances. But the bigger variable is whether the Nuggets and/or Sixers can find a third team to take on Nene's new $60 million deal, after the Brazilian missed all but one game last season with a knee ligament tear. The Sixers, as you can imagine, absolutely will not absorb that contract.

Portland – with Magloire's expiring contract going to Philly for Nene – has been mentioned as that third team, but sources say the Blazers have cooled considerably on joining in … if they were ever really open to it. We'll see if that's a permanent stance or if the Blazers are simply holding out for more from the deal. Like a first-round pick and a young a.sset (like Smith) to keep for themselves.



MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES

You still hear executives around the league mention the Wolves first or second in spite of their well-chronicled lack of first-round picks to offer for the rest of this decade.

But that shouldn't surprise you. Not with Iverson wanting to team with Kevin Garnett, KG wanting it even more and Villanova alumnus Randy Foye – who we've said from the start is the player Philly likes most in this whole process – potentially headlining the package that comes to the Sixers.

The Wolves' issues haven't changed. They don't have that first-round pick to throw in and can't complete a straight swap with Philly unless the Sixers are suddenly willing to take one of the longer Minnesota contracts (Marko Jaric, Troy Hudson, Mark Blount, Mike James) they've consistently refused.

Can the Wolves find a third team – like Charlotte – to absorb one of those four and route an expiring contract back to the Sixers?

Would the Wolves, if there is no third team, be willing to throw in their other promising rookie (Craig Smith) with Foye – and, say, a $3 million sweetener – to compensate for their lack of first-rounders?

I certainly would if I were in Kevin McHale's place.



BOSTON CELTICS

Couldn't agree more with what my NBA Shootaround colleague Jackie MacMullan wrote in Thursday's Boston Globe. Even if Danny Ainge publicly brands the Celtics' chances as "slim," they will stay in the race – at some level – until the finish.

Boston, you see, is the race participant best equipped to deal directly with Philly if a three- or four-team deal can't be struck with the Bobcats (sorry, I don't believe their current regime will ever spend or do anything proactive) or anyone else.

The Sixers, on top of their reluctance to send Iverson to a longtime (and hated) divisional rival, don't want Theo Ratliff's contract because it doesn't expire at season's end.

The Celtics, meanwhile, are prepared to send Philly a first-round pick with a good youngster or two but have indicated that they won't part with Al Jefferson and/or Gerald Green.

But who's to say one side won't cave? Who knows how much desperation either side (or both) might feel if this drags on another week.

Ratliff's deal ($11.7 million this season and next) does expire in June 2008, same as Webber's. So it's not a full-on financial nightmare for Philly to absorb.

Then there's the under-pressure Ainge in Boston. Given the obvious odds against finding a third team to take on Ratliff, can anyone say with certainty that the Celts won't relent and give up Jefferson or Green?


MIAMI HEAT

Do not discount the Heat. I've been convinced.

At first glance, it would appear that Pat Riley doesn't have much to offer. But as a longtime Riley watcher reminded me Thursday, that's how it looked when Shaquille O'Neal popped onto the market. And then Miami got Shaq for far less than expected. No matter what you think of Riles, he gets deals done.

Besides …

I'm not sure that the Heat are so far away. James Posey has a nice-sized expiring contract ($6.4 million). Dorell Wright and/or Wayne Simien fit the Sixers' youth requirement. If Philly were willing to take back Jason Williams' contract (which expires when Webber's does), cash and a future first, this could be a match.

Udonis Haslem's name is out there, too, but that's too much. Right, Pat? Haslem is too valuable to part with, given where Shaq and Alonzo Mourning are in their careers.

If such a trade nudged Miami into luxury-tax territory, furthermore, Iverson becomes an $80 million gamble as opposed to a $40 million risk in the two seasons after this one.

But I repeat: Don't write the Heat off. I personally struggle to imagine Iverson and Dwyane Wade in the same backcourt – as with A.I. and Kobe Bryant – but I'm not in great position to question Riley's wisdom after what happened last May and June.

THE FIELD

• The Indiana Pacers are still being mentioned because they've shown real interest and because Iverson has reportedly indicated a willingness to play for them. But it's tough to imagine Philly embracing a package featuring Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Stephen Jackson, no matter how good the attached picks are. I'm also not quite sure why the Pacers, as much as I trust in Donnie Walsh, would be ready to gamble on an Iverson-Jermaine O'Neal combo while they're still struggling to recover from those years on the Ron Artest roller coaster.


• The Los Angeles Lakers, like Miami, can't be discounted, either. Not after Phil Jackson publicly stated their interest. (Click here for the Wednesday night views of Phil and Kobe Bryant on the matter.) But the Lakers need a third team to complete a deal even more than Miami, since their promising youngster (Andrew Bynum) and most movable contracts (Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm) all come from the same position. Giving up size just became more problematic with Lamar Odom looking at a month or more of injury rehab after suffering a knee sprain.

• Also on the Left Coast: Sacramento and Golden State, as covered in Tuesday's opus about no-trade clauses, were informed recently that Iverson doesn't want to play in Northern California any more than he wants to play in North Carolina for the Bobcats. It's not inconceivable, though, that the Kings or Warriors could participate in a multiteam trade that lands Iverson somewhere else. The Clippers, meanwhile, finally completed their negotiations on a contract extension with coach Mike Dunleavy, taking the untouchable Shaun Livingston even farther off the table than he already was.


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 11 years ago '05        #54
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 glennrobinson31 said:
Isnt from Realgm, i was posting my information before realgm had denver as the front runner on there page, i have a inside source. Like i said, after it happens tomarrow, unless it falls apart somehow, everyone doubting me can press the props button.

Youve said tomarrow in all of your posts, just 4 your info it's tomorrow

AI 4 prezident
 11 years ago '05        #55
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 Swishadude said:




It might not seem like it, as we approach the completion of Week 1 on the Allen Iverson Watch.

But there is a race going on here.

It might not be a fast race, true, but it does sound as though Denver, Minnesota and Boston are all jockeying to come up with the large expiring contract that can clinch victory in the Iverson Sweepstakes.

"If one of those three teams had a last-year guy like P.J. Brown or a Jerry Stackhouse or a Jamaal Magloire [to send to the Sixers], I think the deal would be done," said one Western Conference executive.

I've also been warned not to ignore the gate-crashers from Miami. So …

With that in mind – and with our continuing caution/belief that the offers can only get better if Philly shows some patience, to allow some of the desperation to shift from the Sixers to others – here's a helping of the latest Iverson dish as of lunchtime Thursday:



DENVER NUGGETS

They're the front-runners for a few reasons.

1. They've got two first-round picks in June to offer, potentially giving Philly three firsts in a draft that already has scouts salivating.

2. They've got a small handful of contracts that expire either this season or next season to coincide with Chris Webber's deal playing out in '07-08.

3. They're in the West, which is obviously where Philly would prefer to send A.I.

The main obstacles: Denver, according to NBA front-office sources, is determined not to include Marcus Camby in any deal and also remains very reluctant to part with summer steal J.R. Smith.

A reversal on Smith would certainly enhance the Nuggets' chances. But the bigger variable is whether the Nuggets and/or Sixers can find a third team to take on Nene's new $60 million deal, after the Brazilian missed all but one game last season with a knee ligament tear. The Sixers, as you can imagine, absolutely will not absorb that contract.

Portland – with Magloire's expiring contract going to Philly for Nene – has been mentioned as that third team, but sources say the Blazers have cooled considerably on joining in … if they were ever really open to it. We'll see if that's a permanent stance or if the Blazers are simply holding out for more from the deal. Like a first-round pick and a young a.sset (like Smith) to keep for themselves.



MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES

You still hear executives around the league mention the Wolves first or second in spite of their well-chronicled lack of first-round picks to offer for the rest of this decade.

But that shouldn't surprise you. Not with Iverson wanting to team with Kevin Garnett, KG wanting it even more and Villanova alumnus Randy Foye – who we've said from the start is the player Philly likes most in this whole process – potentially headlining the package that comes to the Sixers.

The Wolves' issues haven't changed. They don't have that first-round pick to throw in and can't complete a straight swap with Philly unless the Sixers are suddenly willing to take one of the longer Minnesota contracts (Marko Jaric, Troy Hudson, Mark Blount, Mike James) they've consistently refused.

Can the Wolves find a third team – like Charlotte – to absorb one of those four and route an expiring contract back to the Sixers?

Would the Wolves, if there is no third team, be willing to throw in their other promising rookie (Craig Smith) with Foye – and, say, a $3 million sweetener – to compensate for their lack of first-rounders?

I certainly would if I were in Kevin McHale's place.



BOSTON CELTICS

Couldn't agree more with what my NBA Shootaround colleague Jackie MacMullan wrote in Thursday's Boston Globe. Even if Danny Ainge publicly brands the Celtics' chances as "slim," they will stay in the race – at some level – until the finish.

Boston, you see, is the race participant best equipped to deal directly with Philly if a three- or four-team deal can't be struck with the Bobcats (sorry, I don't believe their current regime will ever spend or do anything proactive) or anyone else.

The Sixers, on top of their reluctance to send Iverson to a longtime (and hated) divisional rival, don't want Theo Ratliff's contract because it doesn't expire at season's end.

The Celtics, meanwhile, are prepared to send Philly a first-round pick with a good youngster or two but have indicated that they won't part with Al Jefferson and/or Gerald Green.

But who's to say one side won't cave? Who knows how much desperation either side (or both) might feel if this drags on another week.

Ratliff's deal ($11.7 million this season and next) does expire in June 2008, same as Webber's. So it's not a full-on financial nightmare for Philly to absorb.

Then there's the under-pressure Ainge in Boston. Given the obvious odds against finding a third team to take on Ratliff, can anyone say with certainty that the Celts won't relent and give up Jefferson or Green?


MIAMI HEAT

Do not discount the Heat. I've been convinced.

At first glance, it would appear that Pat Riley doesn't have much to offer. But as a longtime Riley watcher reminded me Thursday, that's how it looked when Shaquille O'Neal popped onto the market. And then Miami got Shaq for far less than expected. No matter what you think of Riles, he gets deals done.

Besides …

I'm not sure that the Heat are so far away. James Posey has a nice-sized expiring contract ($6.4 million). Dorell Wright and/or Wayne Simien fit the Sixers' youth requirement. If Philly were willing to take back Jason Williams' contract (which expires when Webber's does), cash and a future first, this could be a match.

Udonis Haslem's name is out there, too, but that's too much. Right, Pat? Haslem is too valuable to part with, given where Shaq and Alonzo Mourning are in their careers.

If such a trade nudged Miami into luxury-tax territory, furthermore, Iverson becomes an $80 million gamble as opposed to a $40 million risk in the two seasons after this one.

But I repeat: Don't write the Heat off. I personally struggle to imagine Iverson and Dwyane Wade in the same backcourt – as with A.I. and Kobe Bryant – but I'm not in great position to question Riley's wisdom after what happened last May and June.

THE FIELD

• The Indiana Pacers are still being mentioned because they've shown real interest and because Iverson has reportedly indicated a willingness to play for them. But it's tough to imagine Philly embracing a package featuring Jamaal Tinsley, Marquis Daniels and Stephen Jackson, no matter how good the attached picks are. I'm also not quite sure why the Pacers, as much as I trust in Donnie Walsh, would be ready to gamble on an Iverson-Jermaine O'Neal combo while they're still struggling to recover from those years on the Ron Artest roller coaster.


• The Los Angeles Lakers, like Miami, can't be discounted, either. Not after Phil Jackson publicly stated their interest. (Click here for the Wednesday night views of Phil and Kobe Bryant on the matter.) But the Lakers need a third team to complete a deal even more than Miami, since their promising youngster (Andrew Bynum) and most movable contracts (Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm) all come from the same position. Giving up size just became more problematic with Lamar Odom looking at a month or more of injury rehab after suffering a knee sprain.

• Also on the Left Coast: Sacramento and Golden State, as covered in Tuesday's opus about no-trade clauses, were informed recently that Iverson doesn't want to play in Northern California any more than he wants to play in North Carolina for the Bobcats. It's not inconceivable, though, that the Kings or Warriors could participate in a multiteam trade that lands Iverson somewhere else. The Clippers, meanwhile, finally completed their negotiations on a contract extension with coach Mike Dunleavy, taking the untouchable Shaun Livingston even farther off the table than he already was.

good post
 12-14-2006, 05:51 PM         #56
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AI in my hometown the mpls, theres not enuff room for two stars n im not talkin bout K.G.
 11 years ago '06        #57
Swishadude 5 heat pts
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 treelogikz said:
AI in my hometown the mpls, theres not enuff room for two stars n im not talkin bout K.G.
 11 years ago '06        #58
louielou 5 heat pts
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i have the same source is called e.s.p.n
 11 years ago '05        #59
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CHEA!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Denver gets AI then we get the leagues two highest scorers. Daym..
 11 years ago '05        #60
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 Link4444 said:
CHEA!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Denver gets AI then we get the leagues two highest scorers. Daym..

only one will be scoring tho.....major problems in D town.......
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