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 12-10-2006, 11:55 AM         #26
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^you need a bigger amp...

 12-10-2006, 05:26 PM         #27
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MAN I USED TO RUN THE SMALL OLD SCHOOL PUNCH AMPS ON SUBS THAT NEEDED 3X' S THE POWER THE AMP WAS RATED AT. THOUGHT I HAD THE HOTTEST sh*t ON THE BLOCK

 12-10-2006, 09:43 PM         #28
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im sure it was straight, but what you gotta remember is that those old punch amps usually put out almost twice what they were supposed to...

 12-10-2006, 09:50 PM         #29
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Oh Def. I Wouldnt Now. Dam Sure Not With A Punch Amp. Not To Mention My Pockets Are Lil Better

 12-11-2006, 09:41 PM         #30
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went to a local car audio shop. i've heard they do good things. i tell ask the man to first look at my system and see whats wrong with it.. so i know what to sell and what not to. (something in there is busted) says hes booked so im seein him tomorrow, but i asked him so questions. i told him i wanted some high quality sound mostly being bass. he told me alpine is whats good right now. i asked him about JL and he gave me the thumbs down on them... he said good sound but poor service. he showed me some ranks in a magazine, alpine was 2nd and JL was like 8th. i didnt reconize anything else on there to be honest. so what yall think about going all alpine? does guy know his sh*t?... i know its his job but the last motherfu*kers that i got my first sound system from were full of c*cksh*t. bunch of fu*king cornhole mexicans who overcharged me. anyways, i told/asked him about the whole idea of focusing mostly on the face first, then the front speakers and working back...he didnt know what the fu*k i was talking about which makes me question his expertise cuz everyone says to do it here and i know yall know whats up. anyways main things to get back to me on are is alpine legitament for what i want? and i want to make sure i really should do that front-to-back focus. expected budget as of now is what i hope to be 1500, but im trying to get more. im got about 300 right now. getting $600-700 for my amp and subs(suckers) and another $500 from what im pawning/selling on ebay(anyone looking for a drumset or cymbols i got you). holla back

 12-11-2006, 09:46 PM         #31
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by the way 1500 is my budget now but im trying to have at least 2000 when i get my system. tell me what u think is the best as if i had 2000 bones

 12 years ago '06        #32
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Working from front to back is always the best choice unless you already have everything up front done. (Headunit, speakers, speaker amp, deaden, etc).

Alpine is a great brand, but I don't agree with the thumbs down on JL. Since he said that, I'm pretty sure he sells Alpine and not JL, right? Therefore making you think Alpine is better, so you'll buy from his shop. That's how business works and I don't "hate" the people that do that, it's their job.

Spend a few hundred on a nice headunit. Look into Eclipse CD4000, Eclipse CD5000 or even the Eclipse CD7000. Any of the high end Pioneer decks, especially their Premier line. I've only owned 1 Alpine deck my whole life, and it was the 9835, one of the best headunits I've used. You'd be lucky to find them now-a-days anyways but I hear a lot of bad things about the newer decks. Poor SQ compared to the older models, features not as great as it use to be. But I'll leave that up to you to decide. I didn't take the risk so I stayed away from Alpine's since last year.

Like mentioned before, make sure you deaden both doors. I'd say 2 layers would be enough. Make sure you try and deaden the place behind where the speaker is mounted. Get some real nice comps for the front. There's A LOT of great speakers to get, but that's up to your taste. After you find the comps you want, look for a quality amp to power them. Make sure you give them good power, too. Once you find a set of comps you're getting, I can help pick out a perfect amp for them.

Some good speakers to look into are: Alpine Type S, Boston Acoustic Pro's, Boston Acoustic Z series, Diamond Auido, MB Quart, Kicker, Rainbow SCL's, Rainbow Germaniums. You have enough money to get anything you want basically. Those are all great brands for speakers. It just depends what you think sounds best for your ears. It also depends on the install, too.

 12-11-2006, 10:51 PM         #33
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i used to have the cd7000... i feel like cuttin my balls off for sellin it, that was and prolly always will be the best head unit ive ever owned, also, only the high end alpine decks are good now... the lower models are on about the same level as pioneer...

 12-11-2006, 11:16 PM         #34
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well i think your right he doesnt sell JL, but i think he said he can get good deals on alpine stuff. that eclpise sounds tempting but if i can get about that same quatily for a better deal with a high end alpine then i'd rather save money for the rest of my system. lemme know of any good alpine heads. im takin your word for it dcole.

the guy at the store recommended the deaden "spray". he was hyping that sh*t up but i dont really know if spray will do that trick.... my trunk buzzes louder than the music plays from oustide the car. its a real problem and i dont think spray can fix that... do i need to get my trunk re-aligned or something or can a good deadener fix that?
by the way i dont want u to think im installing it myself...ur referring to this like im doing it myself. are u a.ssuming im doing it cuz thats the better way to go? or are u saying it as in to have me tell the people at the shop what to do.
im just tryin to get the true facts from yall cuz salesman are obviously gonna be biased towards their own sh*t. u guys are really helping keep up the good work and hit me back when u read this

 12-11-2006, 11:44 PM         #35
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p.s.- do i need to think about extra car batteries or something? i dont want to k!ll my car if my sh*ts too powerful

 12 years ago '06        #36
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I'm not familiar with the newer Alpine decks so maybe dcole can help you there. I'd choose the Eclipse or Pioneers over any newer Alpine. The Eclipse CD3000 would even be a good choice. I know Crutchfield sells them for like $250 or so. Crutchfield isn't the best place to get stuff, but I'd buy headunits there if I had to. The Pioneer P880PRS goes for $300 brand new on ebay, that's where I got mine. Really nice deck, too. Awesome SQ and a lot of great features.

Yeah, def. deaden your trunk if it's that bad. It will also sound 10x better inside after it's done. I wouldn't mess with spray unless it was on small areas. Get some deaden mat for the doors & trunk. I would do that first.

I a.ssumed you were going to install everything yourself, it'll save you a few hundred dollars. Plus, it feels rewarding knowing you did everything yourself, and that way you'll know what to do later on. I'm sure we can help you step by step on everything on here so you won't mess anything up. And once you get in the middle of the install you'll realize how easy it is, just time consuming.

It wouldn't hurt to upgrade the battery & alternator.

 12-12-2006, 12:18 AM         #37
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yea man that would actually be great. i wasnt planning on doing it myself... cuz i didnt think yall would want to walk me throught that stuff but if thats straight then i would really appriciate it. yall really go above and beyond at this site.. wish do more than just "give you props" or whatever... but yea are u sure yall would know how to take a oldmobile apart and sh*t or can find something that would tell me? i also know a dude personally that works at a gas station... hes into car audio pretty hard core too. is it worth askin him for help too or is it pretty easy to just explain on this. not tryyna have him charge me for anything...

 12 years ago '06        #38
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You'll need to find a way to take your dash apart where the radio is. I'm not familiar with oldsmobile dashes but look around to see if anything snaps off or any screws that needs to be removed. You'll aslo need to buy a dash kit to hold your aftermarket headunit for your year & make of your vehicle. Wal*Mart sells them for like $20 or so.

 12-12-2006, 12:44 AM         #39
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alright well last question and ima sleep on this one... like ive said many times...above all i want crazy a.ss bass.. i want my neighbors to know when im coming home at night. u know.. strong enough that i could crank the bass up to illigal "disturbing the peace" volumes. not that i want to be c*cky and obnoxious but u know i mean. the question is does that all depend of the amp or the subs...or both? if subs play a big role in that, will i want two 12" or one 15". i think 12s in a box always look tighter but im going for sound of course. 2 12" or 1 15" or does it still depend on alot more stuff that that... its straight if you cant really answer that. thanks

 12 years ago '06        #40
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It depends on what kind of subs and the enclosure. If you want some crazy bass (but not worried much about sound quality) you'd love some Kicker L7's. They get stupid loud in a ported enclosure. I know Resonant Engineering makes some nice SPL/SQL subs, too. The Fi Audio BTL's seem to be the internet fan favorite. Get 2 15" BTL's in a ported box, power them properly and you'll do some nice flexing. But with that kinda power you're going to need to run an extra battery in the trunk. Along with upgrading the other battery & alternator, but I'd recommend doing that with any set up you get.


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 12-12-2006, 04:14 AM         #41
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 dcole18 said
i used to have the cd7000... i feel like cuttin my balls off for sellin it, that was and prolly always will be the best head unit ive ever owned, also, only the high end alpine decks are good now... the lower models are on about the same level as pioneer...
YEA I REMEMBER WHEN ALPINE' S ENTRY LEVEL DECKS WERE UPPER $200-$300. NOW THEY START OUT AT ABOUT $120 INSTALLED AT PLACES LIKE BEST BUY. I THINK THEY DROPED THIER QUALITY TO MAKE A CHEAPER PRODUCT FOR THE MASSES. IM RUNNIN ALPINE RIGHT NOW (310) & ITS PRETTY NICE BUT MOST OF THE LOWER END & MID LEVEL UNITS DONT SOUND AS GOOD. BETWEEN A LOW LEVEL ALPINE & PIONEER ID TAKE THE PIONEER BECAUSE AT LEAST U GET A LOT MORE FOR UR MONEY. LOW LEVEL ECLIPSE UNITS ARE BETTER THAN MID LEVEL ALPINES IN MY OPINION ALSO.

JUST 3 CENTS FOR THE TOPIC

 12-12-2006, 09:55 AM         #42
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^im pretty sure everything from the 9856 and up in alpines lineup should sound pretty good, basically everything with more than one pair of pre outs should be ok...the high end pioneer should sound really good too, they are just fairly expensive... the only reason i like eclipse so much though is because i think you get more for your money...

Edit: im pretty sure those eclipse units have 8 or 6 volt pre outs... (super fu*kin loud...)

also, for the subs i have recently fallen in love with FI audio
but depending on your budget you dont neccisarily need a BTL, if you get one you deff wouldnt need to get it fully loaded, i was thinking more like a fully loaded ssd 18 (around $260 new from FI with free shiping).The reason i like fi so much is because they have incredible customer service and great prices... check out ficaraudio.com and look for your self....

 12-12-2006, 12:05 PM         #43
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Ill Have To Check Fi Out. Right Now Im Leaning Towards Cvx's But Id Like To Go With A Non Commercial Brand When I Redo My Setup. Right Re Is Tops On My List

 12-12-2006, 09:12 PM         #44
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 SKINNI said
Ill Have To Check Fi Out. Right Now Im Leaning Towards Cvx's But Id Like To Go With A Non Commercial Brand When I Redo My Setup. Right Re Is Tops On My List
FI>RE>KICKER, the re's and the fi's have similar performance (both are much better than the kicker though) FI just has some of the most helpfull customer service ever... hands down...

 12 years ago '06        #45
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I agree with dcole.

I'm thinking about going with 1 12" Fi Q and power it off my JBL amp, give it 1114wrms @ 2ohms.

 12 years ago '04        #46
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Fi are better than RE? this is the 1st time i heard of the subs. anyone got any links where i could check them out?

 12-12-2006, 10:46 PM         #47
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 -Phase One- said
I agree with dcole.

I'm thinking about going with 1 12" Fi Q and power it off my JBL amp, give it 1114wrms @ 2ohms.
that FI will take that wattage as long as you set the gains correctly with a dmm and its in a proper enclosure... also do you use remote bass boost? If so then set the gains with the boost turned all the way up... that way you can crank up the boost without any worry about distortion... thats how remote bass controls are supposed to be used...

 12-12-2006, 10:50 PM         #48
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 123456 said
Fi are better than RE? this is the 1st time i heard of the subs. anyone got any links where i could check them out?
FI and Re have very similar performance, the FI's tend to be a hair louder plus you can customize it when you buy it (voice coils, motors, magnets, etc...) I already said the name of their website but i didnt post it as a link, its . to my knowledge, you can only buy them direct from FI...

Edit: God im so fu*ked up on perks right now!:sick:


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 12 years ago '06        #49
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I'm pretty sure they can take 1114wrms daily. Aren't the specs 1000wrms?

I know how to set the gains and I've never used bass boost in my life.

 12-13-2006, 12:03 AM         #50
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 -Phase One- said
I'm pretty sure they can take 1114wrms daily. Aren't the specs 1000wrms?

I know how to set the gains and I've never used bass boost in my life.

yeah, buat they dont like distortion... it wouldnt blow but it would smell like a.ss, i dont know why they do that, they just do, ive seen it happen to 3 different subs... it dosent affect performance or any thing, they just smell really bad...

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