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 11 years ago '06        #61
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So if you take away the weight of the TV then CRT's are still the top dog in HD world? I thought for sure that LCD's, Dlp's, and/or Plasma's would sh*t on them at this point.


Also, if my HDTV has a "dynamic" contrast ratio of 4000:1 than what is the real contrast ratio?


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 01-19-2007, 04:28 PM         #62
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Oh.... Sorry to leave this one alone......


CRT's don't really have a Contrast Ratio..... it's Infinite..... blacks are black.... whites are white.....

Wikipedia has an explanation about this.....

"Plasma displays are not subject to contrast ratio because the black areas on a plasma display are truly black and do not emit light. This is also true with CRTs[1] which have a theoretically infinite contrast ratio and practically achieve such a high contrast ratio that this terminology usually does not refer to them.[2]"

Check the whole thing out.....
 11 years ago '05        #63
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 KJ Rulz said:
Making this basic and general guideline to tvs out there nowadays. I promised a few members I'd do this, and after I read "plasmas run out of gas" I went and started typing. I just want to help. If you have the time read up and ask questions, because I know Black Friday is coming and a lot of you may want to buy some tv's soon.


A couple notes before you read ahead.

That i after a number, like 1080i for example means interlaced, and p in 1080p means progressive. Interlaced means the picture is scanned first with the even lines then the odd ones. That is, the picture needs to scan twice to show the image you're watching. I read someone use this as an example, put your hands together like you're going to pray to baby jesus (Talladega Nights reference). Progressive, first mainly used with DVD players because they play in 720p, means it will scan the image once all the way through. Progressive is better, clearer image and able to show fast motion scenes much better.

HDMI>Component>Svideo>Composite, yes there's other cables out there, but these three are the most well known and used. HDMI looks like a pc cable you'd use, it has the best quality of all four, and it is a HD standard. However alot of sets don't have this input yet. They will once HD becomes standard at the end of 2007. Component uses three cables just for video, red+green+blue. Svideo uses one cable with 5 pins in it, can also be used to connect most newer computers to tv's. Composite is your standard yellow cable. (For Audio: Optical = Digital Coax > Standard. Optical uses lasers and low loss connection to transmit data through light. It's a more sensitive cable then Coax, and almost the same quality. Although some audiophiles suggest Optical is slightly better. Standard is the red and whites we're all accustomed to.)





5 types of tvs to consider: Analog, Rear Projection, LCD, DLP and Plasma.




Analog:
The tv's we all know and have grown to love. Nothing extraordinary here, just a good old fashion tv that works great for everything and pretty much last forever depending on brand/model you buy. (I label this section as analog, but I mean the standard tv's under 40". Of course you can get these HD, but for the prices for a really good HD standard tv, I'd ask you to shell out the extra cash for the upgrade.)

Personally, I generally like Panasonics and Sonys the best in this category, purely based on features and video performance. I tend to like Panasonics more simply because their price is usually cheaper, but in some models they have a higher tendency to get magnetized. Meaning, the colored spots you get, usually from having other video or audio components near it. Nowadays most tvs have shielding from this problem though.



Rear Projection:
These tvs are the biggest for the cheapest. You'll get a large list of features with these tvs and very good picture quality. If they're HD Ready, you're set with this. Don't get HD built in, that's just stupid especially because most cable companies in your area might just give you the free upgrade to the HD box when you get the HD channels anyway. Rear projections use multiple lenses the size of half your arm, to converge to a single picture. Great picture, tons of features and cheap! The problems with these tvs is that these lenses cost ~$400. So on the chance that one of them is damaged in some way, or becomes dimmer, that's alot of $. Also, if dust collects on the inside of the tv and sits squarely on these lenses, you might notice some shadowing on the screen. One more thing, the viewing angle is the smallest on these type of tvs out of the rest of the categories.

The best brand in this category is flat out, Hitachi. You may have had some great experience with other brands, but this brand is the best by far. It has won the most awards and the other brands most likely are using a form of Hitachi lenses. The best picture quality and the cheapest price among the better brands, too.



LCD:
Liquid Crystal Display, yep I know 99% of you knew what it stood for, just letting the 1% know. Very clear picture, tons of nifty features and among the thinnest tvs you can get. You can use this tv as a pc monitor and tv. Doable with other types, but generally harder. Lightweight and practically portable. This type of tv uses tiny pixels to make up the picture. I have two big problems with this kind of tv. One is that because this type of tv uses pixels to create the picture, you have the chance of dead pixels. That is, they'll burn out and turn black. Tiny spots that might bug you everytime you watch the screen and unfortunately, the manufacturer won't help you until the pixels are atleast a quarter size. Yep, it's in the fine print. Second, LCD's tend to have a "laggy" slowdown in fast, action scenes of movies/video games, compared to other categories. However it should be noted that LCD's this year have a higher response time, ~8ms.

The most well known brand in this category is Sharp because of their Aquos line. I'm not a big fan. The only two brands I would give my "ok" to are Sony and Samsung. If I had to choose, I would buy a Samsung because of price and because they're making a big impact on tv's recently in terms of performance.



DLP:
Digital Light Processing, yea I know you know, I'm just here to let you know I know you know too. It's been out probably around the time you were born, but it's only recently been causing an uproar in retail stores. Using a lamp to produce white light through a fast moving color wheel, it projects the image onto the screen (almost similar to a rear projection, some even classify this as rear projection still). Outstanding color, good viewing angle, thin (not as thin as LCD's/Plasmas), and tons of features. Overall the best all around tv for the money. The only problem I have with DLP's are the lens it uses does need to be replaced every 2-4 years depending on usage and model. The lens costs roughly 250 dollars.

The only major contestant in this field is Samsung. They brought DLP's to the foreground. Most of their models are highly rated, and rightly so.



Plasmas:
The Grand Finale. Plasmas use a similar pixel based system like LCD's, except they don't burn out. Each pixel is made up of three subcomponents, Red, Blue and Green. No the gases don't run out. No it doesn't need to be charged. These tvs are the best of the best. They have the most inputs. They are the thinnest. They have the best quality picture. They have the longest list of features. On a side note, they're also really heavy, around 100 or so lbs., so don't let the size fool you. Some also don't like that most Plasmas use a control box, but honestly I prefer it. It helps hide the cables away and I just stack it with the rest of the A/V equipment I have. Yes, I have one. It's a Hitachi. It's very cool. The only real downside to this besides the last few things I mentioned, is that it is the most likely to freeze an image on the screen. Although, if you just make sure that it has the Orbiter to clear the "ghost" image, which most newer tvs have, then you're all set.

My favorites in this category are pretty much a clean tie between Sony and Hitachi. Both have amazing pictures, both have tons of features and both are very expensive. I picked Hitachi because I can swivel the tv with the remote...




If I had to rank the best of each category,
Unlimited $: Plasma>DLP>LCD>Rear Projection>Standard
Best Value: DLP>Rear Projection>LCD>Standard>Plasma



Any specific questions, ask away. If I've made an error, let me know. If you think I'm stupid, well....you're stupid, so shut up.


Note: None of these tvs should be rated for their sound. They are just simply not meant for sound quality. Go pick up a surround sound system to match the tv quality you get. Personally I'm a big fan of the Onkyo HTS 670. It's cheap and monsterous. Go to:

Aye, Could you give me a little bit more evidence on the Plasmas? The reason why because I was considering one and I don't want to waste my money on there expenses.
 02-06-2007, 09:33 PM         #64
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 Jaiden05 said:
Aye, Could you give me a little bit more evidence on the Plasmas? The reason why because I was considering one and I don't want to waste my money on there expenses.



Shiiiiit I didn't know this thread was still alive and pinned again.

What do you mean evidence? I don't understand what you want to know.
 02-06-2007, 09:35 PM         #65
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 BaddNewZ said:
Oh.... Sorry to leave this one alone......


CRT's don't really have a Contrast Ratio..... it's Infinite..... blacks are black.... whites are white.....

Wikipedia has an explanation about this.....

"Plasma displays are not subject to contrast ratio because the black areas on a plasma display are truly black and do not emit light. This is also true with CRTs[1] which have a theoretically infinite contrast ratio and practically achieve such a high contrast ratio that this terminology usually does not refer to them.[2]"

Check the whole thing out.....


Yep!^

Those Sony XBR CRT's are still blaze HD sets but they weight a ridiculous amount.

It's not simply weight, but generally nowadays they do make LCD's, Plasmas and DLP's with more flare to get the consumer to buy them. Usually they'll add in a few kool extras, like a specific Hitachi plasma being able to swivel by remote control for example.
 03-28-2007, 06:02 AM         #66
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that a good tv? i can drop about 1500-(2000 MAX) for a new tv, my current is 1080i rear projection /shrug

i want to get a 1080p w/ atleast 2 HDMI and atleast 40", i actually dont want anything bigger then 40", i think 40" is perfect for gaming and movies (mind you its going on my wall in my room

i already have a 1080p sony bravio in my living room for sports parties, movies etc. and my old 60" projection just isnt cutting it in my room, its way way way too fu*king big.. dont get me wrong the picture quality is great.. but how is that tv what do you think?



EDIT or what about this



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 03-29-2007, 11:11 AM         #67
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 Styl3s said:


that a good tv? i can drop about 1500-(2000 MAX) for a new tv, my current is 1080i rear projection /shrug

i want to get a 1080p w/ atleast 2 HDMI and atleast 40", i actually dont want anything bigger then 40", i think 40" is perfect for gaming and movies (mind you its going on my wall in my room

i already have a 1080p sony bravio in my living room for sports parties, movies etc. and my old 60" projection just isnt cutting it in my room, its way way way too fu*king big.. dont get me wrong the picture quality is great.. but how is that tv what do you think?



EDIT or what about this




gorgeous tvs, sleek design, tons of features. only one problem i have with these two specific tv's, don't use an analog signal. it'll be very blurry, moreso than an average hdtv that is. so basically, it's amazing for hdtv, dvd's and video games.


a great buy for either tv, it's more a size issue more than anything else for these two.


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 03-29-2007, 11:25 AM         #68
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what do you mean blurry? blurry for cable tv? and size issue?
 03-29-2007, 01:39 PM         #69
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 Styl3s said:
what do you mean blurry? blurry for cable tv? and size issue?


if you use analog cable tv, you will see a very blurry picture. it's bearable, but i hope that you'll just keep it on HD mainly or DVD/video games.



o and i meant that besides the very blurry cable tv picture, it's just a matter of which size fits your room best because they're very similar tv's.
 03-29-2007, 07:43 PM         #70
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props to this thread. I a big fan of Onkyo HTS 670, crisp sound!
 03-29-2007, 09:57 PM         #71
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 KJ Rulz said:




if you use analog cable tv, you will see a very blurry picture. it's bearable, but i hope that you'll just keep it on HD mainly or DVD/video games.



o and i meant that besides the very blurry cable tv picture, it's just a matter of which size fits your room best because they're very similar tv's.
i prefer 40" cause i competitive game, the bigger tv is not good for comp gaming, besides i have a recliner that will be sitting almost right in front

and i dontk now about analog but my cable box is HD
 03-30-2007, 03:09 PM         #72
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 Styl3s said:
i prefer 40" cause i competitive game, the bigger tv is not good for comp gaming, besides i have a recliner that will be sitting almost right in front

and i dontk now about analog but my cable box is HD

then you're set!
 03-31-2007, 05:17 PM         #73
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I have a 3 year old 62" DLP mitsubishi tv (i didnt even know they made tvs)i got it for a 1000 ...Im wantin to get dish HD but i need to know if i need an HD reciever. my manual says the tv is able to accept 420i , 420p,720p and 1080i.But it also has a digital recorder built-in that can record up 120 gigs of HD material from a cable card....but i dont want cable.

also is an upconvert dvd player worth gettin?
 04-01-2007, 11:17 AM         #74
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 gimme42o said:
I have a 3 year old 62" DLP mitsubishi tv (i didnt even know they made tvs)i got it for a 1000 ...Im wantin to get dish HD but i need to know if i need an HD reciever. my manual says the tv is able to accept 420i , 420p,720p and 1080i.But it also has a digital recorder built-in that can record up 120 gigs of HD material from a cable card....but i dont want cable.

also is an upconvert dvd player worth gettin?


if you're gettin HD satellite then they'll supply you with a new HD satellite box. It sounds like you're tv is HD ready so you should be fine.


yea those upconvert dvd players are pretty good, you just need to make sure you get a good one, and i don't mean expensive.
 04-02-2007, 05:49 PM         #75
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 shootermcgavin said:
any opinions on this tv?

The name is: Sharp Aquos 42" LCD Full 1080P HDTV, it's only $1500.00.
i can't find anymore reviews/specs on this, but from what is shown it looks great. also, which makes this more plausible is that it's from the Aquos lineup. Sharp's Aquos line is reliable from my experiences. I would go for it.
 04-02-2007, 11:34 PM         #76
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 shootermcgavin said:
Thanks for the reply KJ, but I want to find a TV that I can hook up to my PC and it looks like this one doesn't...if I got this TV, is there any cords or anything I could buy to hook it up to my PC and not lose any quality?
well you can always use the S-video connection if your computer has it for the video, then the sound shouldn't be a problem if you just hook up your computer to a sound system.
 11 years ago '04        #77
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If a t.v. has a pc input, is it possible to to have picture-in picture, with half the screen the pc and the other television/gaming?
 04-24-2007, 05:37 PM         #78
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 Block13 said:
If a t.v. has a pc input, is it possible to to have picture-in picture, with half the screen the pc and the other television/gaming?

yes generally this is the case, as long as it's allowing dual tuners. I've seen some older projections that didn't allow this. A tv with a Pc input though, is usually newer, so you should be fine.
 04-25-2007, 08:30 PM         #79
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I've posted numerous threads & questions only to get minimal help I want a 1080p TV either LCD DLP or rear projection. I'm willing to spend at the max $1600 maybe up to $1800 can I get anything of quality FOR THAT MUCH and should I buy from the net or hit the store? Whats the best TV to get for that amount or range $1600 maybe 18 on down. what could I get in that range 1080p wise I want a TV 42" on up. And if I buy off the net or you suggest that which sites should I go to that won't game me?
 04-26-2007, 08:51 AM         #80
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 TORE said:
I've posted numerous threads & questions only to get minimal help I want a 1080p TV either LCD DLP or rear projection. I'm willing to spend at the max $1600 maybe up to $1800 can I get anything of quality FOR THAT MUCH and should I buy from the net or hit the store? Whats the best TV to get for that amount or range $1600 maybe 18 on down. what could I get in that range 1080p wise I want a TV 42" on up. And if I buy off the net or you suggest that which sites should I go to that won't game me?
1600 is should be fine, but if you can go 1800 that would be best. You have to figure there's tax, and other things you may have to buy with your tv as well.

Remember, a large tv is an investment.

Buy from the net, check out at the store first though to see in person the model(s) you like.



LCD's:

- This tv just came out. Looks great, great specs too.




- Sharp's become the master of the LCD's, nonetheless, I'm not always happy with this picture. This is a tv I would check in the store just in case you think differently.


[pic - click to view]

 Sharp Prices



DLP:

- Great DLP, people seem to love this. Basic DLP vs. LCD argument here. Depends on which you like more.






Hope that was helpful. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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