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 11 years ago '04        #41
TrackMagic 
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 luda06 said:
So let me get this right. Dipset makes better music than Jay-Z? Everyone has their own opinion, but when you say something that makes somebody question your credibility like that, they're not going to take you seriously.

Does Dipset have any albums considered classic? No.
Is Dipset in anyone's top ten? No.
Has Dipset won any major awards? No.

Jay-Z obviously has.

But you need to stop lying to yourself. I mean, Jay-Z is still the same n*gga that's been boasting and bragging SINCE REASONABLE DOUBT. So either you're just saying a bunch of random sh*t, or you're really just that stupid.

real talk, and basically ill put it like this, jay is that dude you hate to love, dipset, is all novelty, i barely listen to the radio anymore. beacuse 99% of the sh*t out now is garbage. all i got is lupe talib mos common jay nas gangstarr, big L biggie, the rest of the sh*t now is just str8 trash. and i really wanna know wtf happend to good music??
 11 years ago '05        #42
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Im thinking very clearly he's saying with more and more hate he's going to end up like Gordon Gekko! please, thats a personal decision to a.ssociate himself as Gordon Gekko. Why him. Gekko was a rat who's motivation and only motivation was wealth. It looks like to me he needs to get in control of his action before he really becomes Gordon Gekko.
You saw what happen at the end of that movie.
With power comes responsibilty.
 11 years ago '04        #43
Kanaki 
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fu*ka jay-z!! nuff said
 11 years ago '04        #44
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 dipset kid0221 said:
i dont know about the other "dipset fans" but i never said i had respect for either one. i just rather listen to cam'ron rap and talking bout some crazy stuff than listen to jay rap about his money.
So your sayin all Jay raps about is Money? Dat kinda sh*t make me question yo credibility
 11-04-2006, 03:20 PM         #45
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 beaint2000 said:
See you got it twisted you think money makes a man
Its hot J has all of that,but was it worth sh*ting on friends to get all of that, do you respect people like that.
or answer me this would you sh*t on your friends to get what he has.
P.S. im not hatin I just think he's a dirty motha fu*ka.
Really? You came to this conclusion off of what?

Jay-Z talks about this in the magazine. Also plenty of other times, not just this issue for that matter. I don't really feel like posting another 3 paragraphs of interview about this, but I'm going to summarize it.

Basically Jay, Dame, and Biggs started the Roc with one goal in common. Jay said, once they reached that goal and accomplished it, everyone was just looking around, started doing doing different things. There wasn't anything left to accomplish, they had it all. Jay also mentions the same thing in "Lost Ones", it was "Too much flossing".

Since there wasn't any real general direction, things just started falling apart, leading to the break up.
 11 years ago '05        #46
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J didn't start the rock J AND DAME did it together.
TOGETHER!!!!
You act like he did this buy himself.
Dash took care of the business side of the company dont forget that.
They built that empire as a family stop giving all the credit to JAy-Z are you crazy thats not cool.
 11-04-2006, 03:26 PM         #47
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 dipset kid0221 said:
i dont know about the other "dipset fans" but i never said i had respect for either one. i just rather listen to cam'ron rap and talking bout some crazy stuff than listen to jay rap about his money.
You're k!lling me with this.

You would rather hear "Baallllinnnn" (which is a song about money), than Show Me (more sublims), Kingdom Come (how he's to save hip-hop), or Lost Ones (personal issues)?

Please.

Next argument.
 11 years ago '04        #48
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 beaint2000 said:
J didn't start the rock J AND DAME did it together.
TOGETHER!!!!
You act like he did this buy himself.
Dash took care of the business side of the company dont forget that.
They built that empire as a family stop giving all the credit to JAy-Z are you crazy thats not cool.
Without Jay there be no Roc
Without Dame there be no Roc
Without Biggs there be no Roc

But with dat said who could u just go without?
 11 years ago '05        #49
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but in situations like that talk to your family dont just have everybody in your crew suprised by your decisions especially in situations like theirs. Do it with some class!
 11 years ago '04        #50
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 beaint2000 said:
but in situations like that talk to your family dont just have everybody in your crew suprised by your decisions especially in situations like theirs. Do it with some class!
My n*gga you just cant talks 2 sum n*ggas. When the breakup first happened who was da n*gga with all da interveiws and tv shows?
 11 years ago '05        #51
beaint2000 
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and J is not going to save hip-hop thats his problem. His ego, who says sh*t like that. Your supposed to let the people determine that, and I havn't seen anybody walking around with "Jay-Z saved hip-hop" T-shirts homie.
 11-04-2006, 03:32 PM         #52
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 beaint2000 said:
J didn't start the rock J AND DAME did it together.
TOGETHER!!!!
You act like he did this buy himself.
Dash took care of the business side of the company dont forget that.
They built that empire as a family stop giving all the credit to JAy-Z are you crazy thats not cool.
Can you read? Really, can you read?

You're making off-base conclusions again.
 11 years ago '05        #53
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 luda06 said:
You're k!lling me with this.

You would rather hear "Baallllinnnn" (which is a song about money), than Show Me (more sublims), Kingdom Come (how he's to save hip-hop), or Lost Ones (personal issues)?

Please.

Next argument.
ok nevermind you aint getting what im saying.
 11 years ago '04        #54
Datni99ajeff 
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im tired of tryin 2 open yall eyes im bout 2 get sum money. its like me and Luda da only n*ggas who can see clearly through da bullsh*t.
 11-04-2006, 03:35 PM         #55
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 beaint2000 said:
and J is not going to save hip-hop thats his problem. His ego, who says sh*t like that. Your supposed to let the people determine that, and I havn't seen anybody walking around with "Jay-Z saved hip-hop" T-shirts homie.
That's your opinion if you think Jay isn't. Me personally one person isn't going to do that. Jay says this too, everyone has to put in effort, not just one person. He's just trying to show n*ggas the way.

Are you done yet?
 11-04-2006, 03:36 PM         #56
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 dipset kid0221 said:
ok nevermind you aint getting what im saying.
I mean if you really had a pont, you would defend it. I guess not. Maybe beaint2000 can help you out.
 11 years ago '05        #57
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U dont understand everybody in Rocafella was suprised by J actions.
If they would have expected it they wouldnt be acting suprised homie
all those people from Beenie-MOP-Dash wouldn't have been acting suprised. What he did was a side deal Power move. it makes sense
 11 years ago '05        #58
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 luda06 said:
I mean if you really had a pont, you would defend it. I guess not. Maybe beaint2000 can help you out.
naw im bout to go and i cant be on here arguing over nothing all day.
 11-04-2006, 03:40 PM         #59
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he did make good point but still what the fu*k!!!!!!!!!!!
 11-04-2006, 03:41 PM         #60
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 beaint2000 said:
U dont understand everybody in Rocafella was suprised by J actions.
If they would have expected it they wouldnt be acting suprised homie
all those people from Beenie-MOP-Dash wouldn't have been acting suprised. What he did was a side deal Power move. it makes sense
Who said they were surprised? n*ggas saw this sh*t coming a mile away.......

Just stop, really. Stop.
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