Oct 10 - Al Gore Declares that Most Blacks in America Deserve Reperations

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Should Reparations be rewarded?

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 11 years ago '04        #41
memyselfni 9 heat pts
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if he runs for president again he wont be elected cause of that comment. cause hes admitting that white people were wrong then and still are wrong today. hell they might elect his a.ss then k!ll him...
 11 years ago '06        #42
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 durdysoufpleya said:
well, african-americans as a group were held down, kept from advancement for hundreds of years while others had the opportunities to suceed and advance as much as they could, how could we expect anyone to be on an equal footing after only a few decades of equal opportunities?

think of it like a race, not because life is competitive, but because it is a path we are following, and hopefully sticking together in (all us humans are in this world together) african americans were held at the starting line for hundreds of years while others were allowed to use them to boost their speeds down the track, as a group, they will probably need some help catching up.
Hmmm...I never thought of it like that. However i think b4 i woul cosign to reparations an effective plan for the distribution would be needed and obviously not one is present...There is too much room for error that the gov't would be in fact negligent if they decided to try to give reparationsImagine race tests or blacks being told they're not "black enough" to receive reparations

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 11 years ago '04        #43
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 introspekt757 said:
Imo reparations is an unfair form of a.ssistancecurrently. Formerly,within the 50 years subsequent to the civil war reparations in the monetary form would be acceptable. But as for receiving $ as reparations while it sounds like something that evrybody would want. It would empty this countrys coffers and be the economic downfall of America. Think about it, a large amt. of money is given to all the black people in america Prices in black communities would inflate b/c of an uneven disparity in the distribution of wealth Also the dispersion of repartions on the pratical scale is unfathomable there is really know way to show how much"blackness" people have since the majority of all people (regardless of race) share like 95% of the same dna codes and b/c of the interracials births in 1800s there is no way to prove or refute, african american lineage(despite lineage) As for other forms of reparations social, education, welfare, etc...i dont agree with it on the basis of racial preference. It is my belief that such forms of welfare should be based on merit & need (This occurs only in a utopian society however, one of the reasons i disagree w/affirmative action) I also disagree w/any form of reparations on the basis of cultural pride..reparations does nothing to dispel the fallacy, "Blacks looking for a handout" And finally i think reparations is a bad idea b/c it is illogical and morally wrong to charge others for crimes they did not commit and give to people who were not directly affected,1


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I appreciate your intelligent response however flawed it may be. You must not have been raised in a true hood where reperations in the form of education and community building services would do a great deal to reform that type of community. I went to a school that used books 10 years old and no computers. True, more is needed than just economic means but it would definitely help. Go outside of your suburb and fully evaluate conditions that are in direct relation to slavery - jim crow - outright discrimination. Again, I am not dissing you because you thought out your post very well. I just don't think you see the full picture.
 11 years ago '04        #44
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he's a democrat, what do you expect? He's trying to win over the black community even more as election time is coming. It's simple fu*kin politics.

I have a hard time believing that rich black people would get money, and if they did, I think the less well off black people would bi*ch. This society is so fu*ked up now days that black, white, indian, or asian, giving some people a little bit of money won't mean sh*t.

Should the jews get reperations for what happened to them? Should Christians get reperations for being crucified and fed to lions?

This sh*t is played out, old, and needs to be put to rest.


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 10-10-2006, 10:07 AM         #45
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oh, and i dont think that reparations/welfare in the form of money is ever a good idea (of course, a little bit always helps, but a lot just gets out of hand too easily).
the best way is somewhat investing in the community. putting money into quality education everywhere, making sure that people are getting proper food, and being a.ssisted with making healthy choices (insuring access to fresh foods, good understanding of personal fitness and hygiene). mocernizing utilities and information access in areas where it is lacking. making real efforts to reduce crime, not by locking up more people, but rehabilitating more people, and making more awareness, security and creative crime f!ghting, not profiling and staggering numbers of arrests...
those kind of things allow people to live more comfortably, and make the most of what they have (talents, skills) whereas some of the conditions in poor communities today cause people to focus more on survival instead of thriving.
 11 years ago '04        #46
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 Arceo said:
i voted for NO but looking at your avy..you could use a makeover...send me your email and ill pay to get your head shrunk down to a normal size somewhere in beverly hills


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 10-10-2006, 10:11 AM         #47
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 introspekt757 said:
Hmmm...I never thought of it like that. However i think b4 i woul cosign to reparations an effective plan for the distribution would be needed and obviously not one is present...There is too much room for error that the gov't would be in fact negligent if they decided to try to give reparationsImagine race tests or blacks being told they're not "black enough" to receive reparations

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well, i think anyone who is disadvantaged can/should (morally, not always practically) be helped out. i have always thought that if you push people up from the bottom, everyone benefits and rises, whereas if you lifted from the top, people still get left behind (think of a spring)
so if you start helping out the poorest of the poor, you will progress slowly at first, but as they start rising, others above them will too, and more and mroe resources to help will be avalible, and it will be easier and easier to keep helping people.
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 iCantLose said:
....I went to a school that used books 10 years old and no computers. True, more is needed than just economic means but it would definitely help. Go outside of your suburb and fully evaluate conditions that are in direct relation to slavery - jim crow - outright discrimination. Again, I am not dissing you because you thought out your post very well. I just don't think you see the full picture.

Concedes....True, i havent lived in the "hood"in over a decade i still have friends and fam in it. And i dont take it lightly what the struggle wit and the brief bit i experienced is was no easy matter to overcome so i do understand my views will be incomplete in regards to their plight, again i think as far as with race aid shouldnt be distributed but along socio-economic lines

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 11 years ago '04        #49
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 durdysoufpleya said:
well, i think anyone who is disadvantaged can/should (morally, not always practically) be helped out. i have always thought that if you push people up from the bottom, everyone benefits and rises, whereas if you lifted from the top, people still get left behind (think of a spring)
so if you start helping out the poorest of the poor, you will progress slowly at first, but as they start rising, others above them will too, and more and mroe resources to help will be avalible, and it will be easier and easier to keep helping people.
I feel you. Unfortunately that only happens in America with the NBA and NFL drafts. I wish more people thought like you. It would be a better USA with less crime.
 10-10-2006, 10:16 AM         #50
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 YusufSaad said:
to be honest with yall i think taht balcks dont deserve reparations why should i pay for something that had nothing to do with mee hundreds of years ago?
thats just me though
You're obviously a dumbass...and yeah that's just you, though.
 11 years ago '04        #51
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 introspekt757 said:
Concedes....True, i havent lived in the "hood"in over a decade i still have friends and fam in it. And i dont take it lightly what the struggle wit and the brief bit i experienced is was no easy matter to overcome so i do understand my views will be incomplete in regards to their plight, again i think as far as with race aid shouldnt be distributed but along socio-economic lines

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You are right, it should go to all poor people. I side with blacks first and foremost because many of the poor conditions that we are currently in are a direct effect of various discriminations right here in good ole USA.
 11 years ago '05        #52
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Hell Yeah ! ! ! lol propz 2 gore
 11 years ago '06        #53
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Reperations Now!!!
 10-10-2006, 10:30 AM         #54
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 Tha754kid said:
We dont need no damn reparations cuz we were not the ones out there slaving back then.
You're a dumbass, too. Think of race in America as a car race. Whites in America have been in Lams, Porches, Benzes, BMW's and Blacks have been in Pintos, Pacers, Gremlins, Yugo's. They've been racing for about 400 years. Civil Rights said, " Okay everybody has to re-start the race" but Whites still had the Porches and BM's and blacks were still in pacers. Reperations will restart the race and give blacks the opportunity to buy a Porche or Benz thus making for a fair and equal race.
 10-10-2006, 10:53 AM         #55
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.........it'll never happen so keep dreaming
 10-10-2006, 11:09 AM         #56
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well as a n*gga... i would love to get money from the government for no reason.... show me the money!!!
 11 years ago '04        #57
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 nastynaj20 said:
well as a n*gga... i would love to get money from the government for no reason.... show me the money!!!
For no reason huh, you probably dont need it.
 10-10-2006, 12:02 PM         #58
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work it al, work it. need that black vote come 2008
 10-10-2006, 12:12 PM         #59
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HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

We black people need to change our own foolish ignorant habits. repuration??? We fu*k it up for our selves with the black on black bullsh*t! We desease our selves. It is no longer "them" it's "us". They shouldn't be held responsible for sh*t!!!! Black people pull triggers and rob stores on their own accord.
 11 years ago '04        #60
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 Arceo said:
this reparations sh*t is a horrible idea that needs to die...who deserves payment for something someone else did, thats on some White Man tactics, and no one wants to be on that level
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