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 11 years ago '04        #161
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 Y2Luda said:
There was a whole lot more said in that post that you have failed to address.....

The recruiting services are quite flawed, unless you have some senior nike camp times..and even those are from a couple of years ago. If you have watched both play it's fairly obvious who is faster. But we can debate that later, let's get to the rest of that post.
@ u actin like jarrett hasnt been out this year

dude missed alot of spring ball dealin with the ncaa rules sh*t, was slowed with a hamstring early then went down with the shoulder

@ u actin like he hasnt been goin thru sh*t all year

& i could give a fu*k what mel kiper says, that dude's opinion is not gospel

like i said before, there isnt anythin johnson can do that jarrett cant....
 10-11-2006, 07:19 PM         #162
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I see Jarrett alot since one of my close friends goes to USC.. I see GT when Miami plays them or BC or when there on espn. Johnson makes some crazy catches but that doesnt mean he has better hands.. Johnson I think has a step on Jarrett which is alot but like I said intill I see the numbers and what not. Like Luda said we will see soon enough
 10-11-2006, 07:21 PM         #163
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no disrespect, but im sure mel kippers opinion is more valid than anyone elses on this site

hes definitly not god, and can be wrong

but id say hes got more insight and experience into making the comparisons

its what he does for a living

and when you consider the heisman race tells the same story...

and the draft boards of NFL scouts and head coaches....

it becomes your opinion VS the experts and proffesional
 11 years ago '05        #164
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 Cage said:
@ u actin like jarrett hasnt been out this year

dude missed alot of spring ball dealin with the ncaa rules sh*t, was slowed with a hamstring early then went down with the shoulder

@ u actin like he hasnt been goin thru sh*t all year

& i could give a fu*k what mel kiper says, that dude's opinion is not gospel

like i said before, there isnt anythin johnson can do that jarrett cant....
Yes, there apparently is.....

Not be out all year. Not get caught up in NCAA violations and things. Not "go thru sh*t all year." Not be as high on Mel Kipers list.

Also, there are things that Calvin can do that DJ cant.....run faster. Go higher in the draft [at this point]. prove he can be the focal point of a defense and still perform [not saying DJ cant, but he hasn't had to]........

You are acting as if people are putting DJ down, which no one has done, but at this juncture CJ is considered a better pro prospect by damn near everyone that I've talked too, read, or seen a draft board from.......


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 11 years ago '04        #165
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damn..11 pages for one perons injury?
 10-11-2006, 07:24 PM         #166
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 K i n g R 926 said:
damn..11 pages for one perons injury?


loooong story
 11 years ago '05        #167
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 K i n g R 926 said:
damn..11 pages for one perons injury?
We've since moved on from that and moved onto keeping a running log of a certain persons mental disorder.
 11 years ago '04        #168
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 RakimAllahNY said:
I see Jarrett alot since one of my close friends goes to USC.. I see GT when Miami plays them or BC or when there on espn. Johnson makes some crazy catches but that doesnt mean he has better hands.. Johnson I think has a step on Jarrett which is alot but like I said intill I see the numbers and what not. Like Luda said we will see soon enough
n*ggas like to pull out clips of johnson makin circus catches but that sh*t is meaningless because usc quarterbacks dont throw balls 15 feet in the air behind recievers

johnson is no super speedster & neither is jarrett but they both are big & have deeiptive speed, but people on this board make is seem like johnson runs a 4.1 & has a 70 inch vert....
 10-11-2006, 07:26 PM         #169
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Also Johsnon had 6 catches 89 yards and on td's against Miami so its not like he did sh*t.
 11 years ago '05        #170
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 Cage said:
n*ggas like to pull out clips of johnson makin circus catches but that sh*t is meaningless because usc quarterbacks dont throw balls 15 feet in the air behind recievers

johnson is no super speedster & neither is jarrett but they both are big & have deeiptive speed, but people on this board make is seem like johnson runs a 4.1 & has a 70 inch vert....
How are people making it seem like CJ runs a 4.1? Here is an exert from ONE PAGE AGO...

 Y2Luda said:
Correct. With that said, it's farily obvious who is faster. Is he worlds faster, not by any stretch, but again, it's pretty easy to see.
There goes that exaggeration to help make a point syndrome you seem to have.
 10-11-2006, 07:28 PM         #171
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 Cage said:
n*ggas like to pull out clips of johnson makin circus catches but that sh*t is meaningless because usc quarterbacks dont throw balls 15 feet in the air behind recievers

johnson is no super speedster & neither is jarrett but they both are big & have deeiptive speed, but people on this board make is seem like johnson runs a 4.1 & has a 70 inch vert....

exactly

you just proved my point

if jarrett had a QB who threw balls like that, i wonder if he makes the catch

hes played with a good QB for most of his career

with johnson, he can make a bad QB look good

like i said before

johnson to jarrett

is raandy moss to marvin harrison
 11 years ago '05        #172
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Also Johsnon had 6 catches 89 yards and on td's against Miami so its not like he did sh*t.
He was a sophmore.

He was the ONLY target on the team. [for example he had 89 of the total 159 passing yards Ga. Tech had that day]

He still averaged 15 yards a catch.

He has one of, if not THE, most inconsistant QB [and NEVER a great throwing QB] in Ball.

Not making excuses because those numbers aren't mindblowing but didn't Miami have the #1 passing D last year?

Edit: ...and Georgia Tech WON against Miami last year.


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 10-11-2006, 07:31 PM         #173
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^^ See bad comparion Drunken

Plus if this was the NFL you can make a case, but teams in college face enough sh*tty teams that a player like Johnson who doesnt have a great team can get just as many or more stats because hes the only option. Were Jarrett was never the one to get thrown to 40 times a game. In the NFL this wouldnt work aka Raiders n Moss but in college you can play North South Central college and sh*tty teams
 10-11-2006, 07:33 PM         #174
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 RakimAllahNY said:
^^ See bad comparion Drunken

Plus if this was the NFL you can make a case, but teams in college face enough sh*tty teams that a player like Johnson who doesnt have a great team can get just as many or more stats because hes the only option. Were Jarrett was never the one to get thrown to 40 times a game. In the NFL this wouldnt work aka Raiders n Moss but in college you can play North South Central college and sh*tty teams

still

GT plays better teams than USC does, considering that USC>>>>GA Tech

i hate to go to the NFL for a comparison

a reciever like randy, as good as he is, is sh*tty on a bad team

where they play tough teams in the AFC west

and harrison is made out to be a god on the colts

where he racks up against houston and tennesse


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 11 years ago '04        #175
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 Y2Luda said:
How are people making it seem like CJ runs a 4.1? Here is an exert from ONE PAGE AGO...



There goes that exaggeration to help make a point syndrome you seem to have.
read my post again, never directed it to u specifically



 DrunkenMonkey58 said:
exactly

you just proved my point

if jarrett had a QB who threw balls like that, i wonder if he makes the catch

hes played with a good QB for most of his career

with johnson, he can make a bad QB look good

like i said before

johnson to jarrett

is raandy moss to marvin harrison
^^^ perfect example right here, moss/harrison & jarrett/johnson is not a fair comparison

moss clearly has physical advantages over harrison, how does that compare to jarrett/johnson?
 11 years ago '05        #176
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 Cage said:
read my post again, never directed it to u specifically
You said PEOPLE, and I asked how it seemed PEOPLE were making those claims. Mine was just an example.

I dont remember Rakim, Drunken, or myself making any statement even close to that.

Again, that whole exaggeration thing.
 10-11-2006, 07:37 PM         #177
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 Cage said:
read my post again, never directed it to u specifically




^^^ perfect example right here, moss/harrison & jarrett/johnson is not a fair comparison

moss clearly has physical advantages over harrison, how does that compare to jarrett/johnson?

and johnson has distinct physical characteristics too that jarret does not have

dude is 235 and rund a 4.4/4.5/who gives a fu*k, hes fast for 235. 40 time


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 11 years ago '05        #178
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 DrunkenMonkey58 said:
and johnson has distinct physical characteristics too that jarret does not have

dude is 235 and rund a 4.4/4.5/who gives a fu*k, hes fast for 40 time
He's saying that the difference in physical characteristics between Moss/Harrison are much greater than CJ/DJ.......

.....so it's not a good comparison.
 11 years ago '04        #179
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 Y2Luda said:
You said PEOPLE, and I asked how it seemed PEOPLE were making those claims. Mine was just an example.

I dont remember Rakim, Drunken, or myself making any statement even close to that.

Again, that whole exaggeration thing.
go dig up the jarrett & johnson thread than come back & talk to me....
 10-11-2006, 07:40 PM         #180
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