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 10-11-2006, 06:59 PM         #141
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Johnson is 6'4.. And intill i see offical NFL combine numbers im not gonna believe any 40 time I see. Not callin anyone a liar but fu*k it ive seen so many fake 40 times.. Jarret has just as good hands, isnt faster but is taller and more deadly in the redzone.. He has naggin injuries which will lead to his medicore stats. He missed one game and played like one down in another. I could give a fu*k what Kiper says he always overates people and his mock draft is a.ss.. Johnson=Charles Rogers
 10-11-2006, 07:01 PM         #142
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 11 years ago '05        #143
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 DrunkenMonkey58 said:

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Could be an exaggeration.....

Could be he just grew......

He is still a young man.
 10-11-2006, 07:03 PM         #144
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Like I said intill the combine I aint believin sh*t.. All those sites numbers are bullsh*t. He might be if he is im not surprised but teams always make people taller or lighter depending postion
 10-11-2006, 07:04 PM         #145
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^^^ it said same numbers on rivals when he was being recruited

also on espn and CSTV.com


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 11 years ago '04        #146
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@ these n*ggas actin like jarrett aint 6'5 too....


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 10-11-2006, 07:07 PM         #147
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 Y2Luda said:
He can run faster, that is documented....I suggest you look it up.

Also......

Johnson: Averages 16 yards per catch and is 11th in the nation in recieving yards per game.

Dwayne: Averages 10 yards per catch and isn't in the Top 50 in recieving yards per game......

Neither of those statistics would have anything to do with him missing a games. Throw in that Dwyane hasn't missed enough games to explain the difference in 8 recieving TD's compared to 2 recieving TD's.

Also:

Mel Kiper agrees:

Wide Receivers
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State
3. Dwayne Jarrett, USC
4. Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State
5. Limas Sweed, Texas
5a. Sidney Rice, South Carolina*

...and he has more clout than you ever will.

Anything else?

^^^^ did you read this, cage?
 11 years ago '05        #148
Y2Luda 5 heat pts OP
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Like I said intill the combine I aint believin sh*t.. All those sites numbers are bullsh*t. He might be if he is im not surprised but teams always make people taller or lighter depending postion
My biggest complaint with you previous post is this.

You mention that Jarrett is a bigger red zone thread, but why? Because of that one inch? Honestly, I dont think that is really big enough to even mention. They are both HUGE red zone threats.

I think the disparity in speed is fairly evident. Do I think CJ runs a legit 4.4. Not in a million years. I do however think he runs a legit 4.5 and Jarrett more in the 4.6's........much more signifigant, IMO, than that one inch considering how tall they both are.

Throw in the injuries and that fact that I cannot recall DJ being called upon to carry his team like CJ and that is why I feel the way I do.

We'll see soon enough because both them n*ggas are leaving early.
 10-11-2006, 07:07 PM         #149
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All im saying is when Johnson faces Miami he will face the same thing Tim Brown faced.. Same thing Boldin n Fitz faced.. Gettin shut tha fu*k down
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 Y2Luda said:
He can run faster, that is documented....I suggest you look it up.

Also......

Johnson: Averages 16 yards per catch and is 11th in the nation in recieving yards per game.

Dwayne: Averages 10 yards per catch and isn't in the Top 50 in recieving yards per game......

Neither of those statistics would have anything to do with him missing a games. Throw in that Dwyane hasn't missed enough games to explain the difference in 8 recieving TD's compared to 2 recieving TD's.

Also:

Mel Kiper agrees:

Wide Receivers
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State
3. Dwayne Jarrett, USC
4. Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State
5. Limas Sweed, Texas
5a. Sidney Rice, South Carolina*

...and he has more clout than you ever will.

Anything else?
produce it

u have to go back to hs recruitin sites to find a neutral source & they say jarrett is faster....
 11 years ago '05        #151
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 RakimAllahNY said:
All im saying is when Johnson faces Miami he will face the same thing Tim Brown faced.. Same thing Boldin n Fitz faced.. Gettin shut tha fu*k down
Given how Louisville shredded Miami, how can you feel so confident in that?
 10-11-2006, 07:09 PM         #152
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 RakimAllahNY said:
All im saying is when Johnson faces Miami he will face the same thing Tim Brown faced.. Same thing Boldin n Fitz faced.. Gettin shut tha fu*k down

so you dont like him because of what GA tech did to miami in the bowl game last year?
 10-11-2006, 07:09 PM         #153
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 Y2Luda said:
My biggest complaint with you previous post is this.

You mention that Jarrett is a bigger red zone thread, but why? Because of that one inch? Honestly, I dont think that is really big enough to even mention. They are both HUGE red zone threats.

I think the disparity in speed is fairly evident. Do I think CJ runs a legit 4.4. Not in a million years. I do however think he runs a legit 4.5 and Jarrett more in the 4.6's........much more signifigant, IMO, than that one inch considering how tall they both are.

Throw in the injuries and that fact that I cannot recall DJ being called upon to carry his team like CJ and that is why I feel the way I do.

We'll see soon enough because both them n*ggas are leaving early.
Its not the one inch but that helps ive just seen Jarrett be a real effective offensive weapon in the redzone. I dont see alot of Johnson but I see him burning bum a.ss DB's for 40 yard bombs sh*ttin on wack a.ss secondarys.. Plus id say Jarrett has better hands. I know I might catch heat for this but he has made just as many crazy catches, jump balls.. I know Johson is the flavor of the week and thats fine. But im just gonna go with ive seen work for years. But we will see soon enough cause there both gone
 10-11-2006, 07:11 PM         #154
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Its not the one inch but that helps ive just seen Jarrett be a real effective offensive weapon in the redzone. I dont see alot of Johnson but I see him burning bum a.ss DB's for 40 yard bombs sh*ttin on wack a.ss secondarys.. Plus id say Jarrett has better hands. I know I might catch heat for this but he has made just as many crazy catches, jump balls.. I know Johson is the flavor of the week and thats fine. But im just gonna go with ive seen work for years. But we will see soon enough cause there both gone
 10-11-2006, 07:12 PM         #155
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 Y2Luda said:
Given how Louisville shredded Miami, how can you feel so confident in that?

Because we get up for players like him, we always have always will be. We will take it as challenge.. And I think by that game our team will be much better since were young in secondary outside of Merriweather.. But I could be wrong its not like I cany tell the future


 DrunkenMonkey58 said:
so you dont like him because of what GA tech did to miami in the bowl game last year?

Nope I never said I didnt like him id rather Jarrett. You can say im a homer but I never make crazy outlandish statments out Miami players. I hate OSU but I resecpt there players ive said numerous times that Pittman is the most underrted player.
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 Cage said:
produce it

u have to go back to hs recruitin sites to find a neutral source & they say jarrett is faster....
There was a whole lot more said in that post that you have failed to address.....

The recruiting services are quite flawed, unless you have some senior nike camp times..and even those are from a couple of years ago. If you have watched both play it's fairly obvious who is faster. But we can debate that later, let's get to the rest of that post.
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Its not the one inch but that helps ive just seen Jarrett be a real effective offensive weapon in the redzone. I dont see alot of Johnson but I see him burning bum a.ss DB's for 40 yard bombs sh*ttin on wack a.ss secondarys.. Plus id say Jarrett has better hands. I know I might catch heat for this but he has made just as many crazy catches, jump balls.. I know Johson is the flavor of the week and thats fine. But im just gonna go with ive seen work for years. But we will see soon enough cause there both gone
You should watch him more, he is quite a red zone threat. A threat that gets doubled quite a bit more than DJ does.

 RakimAllahNY said:
Because we get up for players like him, we always have always will be. We will take it as challenge.. And I think by that game our team will be much better since were young in secondary outside of Merriweather.. But I could be wrong its not like I cany tell the future
If you couldn't get up to play a Top 15 Louisville, you'll have a hard time convincing me they'll get up for a player. As a matter of fact, if that is the case, that is sad.
 10-11-2006, 07:14 PM         #158
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Listen any 40 time not from the NFL combine is gonna be flawed.. There all done by hand time which is always off.. Unless its the laser line thing they use its gonna be wrong. Theres a reason that VT site said D-Hall ran a 4.2 but in the combine he could never touch that. People lie or they fu*k up. Combine numbers are the most bullsh*t thing outside of the NFL
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Listen any 40 time not from the NFL combine is gonna be flawed.. There all done by hand time which is always off.. Unless its the laser line thing they use its gonna be wrong. Theres a reason that VT site said D-Hall ran a 4.2 but in the combine he could never touch that. People lie or they fu*k up. Combine numbers are the most bullsh*t thing outside of the NFL
Correct. With that said, it's farily obvious who is faster. Is he worlds faster, not by any stretch, but again, it's pretty easy to see.
 10-11-2006, 07:16 PM         #160
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Listen any 40 time not from the NFL combine is gonna be flawed.. There all done by hand time which is always off.. Unless its the laser line thing they use its gonna be wrong. Theres a reason that VT site said D-Hall ran a 4.2 but in the combine he could never touch that. People lie or they fu*k up. Combine numbers are the most bullsh*t thing outside of the NFL
this i completely agree with

but to say jarett has better hands is not crazy... but

questionable if you have seen him play week by week

and even if its not a 4.4, if its 4.5

its faster than jarett
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