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 11-17-2012, 07:21 PM         #12101
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 MRS. RONDO said:
your defense has never been this bad either.......the guy you knocked out in the 1st quarter? yea he played the entire game.

anyways please dont bowl ban, maybe you guys can beat us
nah i think just about everyone here feels like y'all would stomp us on a second go-round. we caught good breaks last time to keep it close as long as we did. i'm happy with a bowl ban and i think we have way more to lose if we play y'all again.
 4 years ago '04        #12102
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 db305 said:
nah i think just about everyone here feels like y'all would stomp us on a second go-round. we caught good breaks last time to keep it close as long as we did. i'm happy with a bowl ban and i think we have way more to lose if we play y'all again.

everything you just said completely wrong.


We have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
 11-17-2012, 09:31 PM         #12103
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 C.R.I.P. said:
everything you just said completely wrong.


We have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
here's my reasoning

if we self-impose
1) we don't lose to fsu twice in a year and we kept it close the first time (for the majority of the game)
2) we can harp on the fact that we most likely won't face another bowl ban in recruiting
3) we can end the year on a high note by beating duke

if we don't self-impose
1) we lose to fsu twice in a year
1a) if we get blown out, it looks worse for recruits
1b) if we lose close, we're still 0-2 against fsu
1c) if we win, we'd get our a.sses wrecked in the orange bowl. face it, we're not a bcs team. we would get clemson'ed.
2) there's likely more heavy penalties on the way and we didn't try to alleviate them.

the bottom line is that we need to get this shapiro affair over and done with. with the recent rulings on ucla and indiana, we have no idea what could be thrown our way. another bowl ban and forgoing the championship game on top of that shows that we're committed to getting this over with.
 4 years ago '04        #12104
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 db305 said:
here's my reasoning

if we self-impose
1) we don't lose to fsu twice in a year and we kept it close the first time (for the majority of the game)
2) we can harp on the fact that we most likely won't face another bowl ban in recruiting
3) we can end the year on a high note by beating duke

if we don't self-impose
1) we lose to fsu twice in a year
1a) if we get blown out, it looks worse for recruits
1b) if we lose close, we're still 0-2 against fsu
1c) if we win, we'd get our a.sses wrecked in the orange bowl. face it, we're not a bcs team. we would get clemson'ed.
2) there's likely more heavy penalties on the way and we didn't try to alleviate them.

the bottom line is that we need to get this shapiro affair over and done with. with the recent rulings on ucla and indiana, we have no idea what could be thrown our way. another bowl ban and forgoing the championship game on top of that shows that we're committed to getting this over with.

A lot of that is just being scared about what could happen. In reality our scandal isn't as bad as Penn St, UNC, Southern Cal, or even Ohio St.

And you never know when you will have the chance to play in the conf championship game again...so play like its the last time.

As far as recruits, FSU is gonna get theirs regardless and so will we. I cannot think of too many recruits off top that have decided on FSU or Miami because of whoever won a game, the perception that FSU is at a better levle right now is gonna be there win or lose.

As for the Orange Bowl, We would be playing fu*king Rutgers or fu*king Louisville. No matter who wins the ACC they won't have that much of a issue with those teams.

And if we don't make the Orange Bowl, we get a chance to "repair" whatever damage might be done in recruiting by playing a decent SEC team in the Peach Bowl , or we could be playing in Orlando.


Either or we haven't won a bowl game since 2006. That in itself hurts recruiting. Not losing to FSU twice.

And we played FSU with a hurt QB and without our best DT, who has clearly made a difference in our run D.

Just my take on the situation, but I understand why we would take a bowl ban. It's just im so anti-establishment that I can't do it.


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 4 years ago '04        #12105
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NCAA DONT GOT sh*t. This is Desperation.


NCAA gives ultimatum to players in UM investigation; Canes, Dolphins, Marlins, Heat chatter

WEDNESDAY BUZZ COLUMN

The NCAA has delivered a new and disturbing ultimatum to numerous former University of Miami football players: Either talk to us or we’ll believe Nevin Shapiro’s claims against you.

The NCAA last week mailed a letter to former players that allegedly committed NCAA violations by accepting gifts from Shapiro, including dinners, prostitutes, trips to nightclubs, cash and other perks. Shapiro told the NCAA that 114 players committed violations; Yahoo previously identified 72 of them.

Only players who were playing college football at the time the investigation was launched are required to speak to the NCAA. Thirteen current or former UM football players did so in 2011. So the players who were sent the letter last week are no longer playing college football; some are in the NFL.

The letter, which I obtained, gives the players a Friday deadline to speak to the NCAA. What’s surprising is that the NCAA states in the letter that it will conclude the players committed violations if they do not respond.

UM officials were privately hopeful that many of the allegations made against players who left UM several years ago cannot be corroborated. Unless the NCAA is bluffing, it appears it might take Shapiro’s word on these claims unless the players refute them.

In recent days, several players and their attorneys have been trying to decide whether to speak to the NCAA. Even Tuesday, one said he's not sure what he will do. So it’s unclear how many players will speak to the NCAA.

Here’s how the letter to one player attorney reads:

"The purpose of this letter is to apprise you that the NCAA enforcement staff is requesting to schedule an interview with your clients regarding their knowledge of or involvement in possible NCAA violations concerning the University of Miami, Florida, football program.

"Interviewing your clients is important in order for the enforcement staff to conduct a thorough investigation, and both the staff and the institution request you and your clients’ cooperation in this matter. However, at this time, all attempts to schedule and execute interviews with [blank] have been unsuccessful. As a result, this letter serves as a formal and final request by the NCAA enforcement staff for interviews with [blank] to be completed by Nov. 23, 2012.

“If we do not hear back from you or your clients by that time, the staff will consider the non-response as your client’s admission of involvement in NCAA violations. You may contact me at [blank] in order to arrange this interview. Your a.ssistance in this matter is appreciated.”

Sincerely,

Molly Richman,

Assistant Director of Enforcement

### My opinion: Regardless of whether it's bluffing or not, the NCAA - by sending this letter to former players - is being heavy-handed and manipulative. Considering the NCAA has no jurisdiction over former players, it's offensive that it would threaten to believe a convicted felon without additional corroboration. A felon, for that matter, who's in jail for a crime involving lying (a Ponzi scheme).

CHATTER

### Keep this in mind: Shapiro claims player violations started in 2002, but the NCAA’s four-year statue of limitations doesn’t apply when there’s a longstanding pattern of willful violations that continues into the past four years. The NCAA previously told UM that it will consider invoking that “willful violators” clause.

### Though several high-ranking UM officials believed UM should play in a bowl game if it won the ACC Coastal, a UM official said the school went with the advice of outside attorney Mike Glazier, who thought it would mitigate future penalties but was given no a.ssurance that UM would not have any more bowl bans. Though Penn State got a four-year bowl ban this year for the Jerry Sandusky tragedy, no school has had a recruiting-related three-year bowl ban since Oklahoma State (1989-91).

One upshot, a UM official said, is self-imposing lessens the chances of prematurely losing seniors- and juniors-to-be, who could transfer and play elsewhere immediately, if UM gets a one- or two-year bowl ban, respectively.

### Some former players are upset about UM’s self-imposed bowl ban --- “These players don’t deserve it and Miami could be punishing themselves for no reason!” Olivier Vernon told me --- but current players “were told to watch what we say,” Brandon McGee said. That's one reason why you haven't heard any current Canes voice displeasure.

### Seniors McGee and Mike James are expected to be drafted, and UM hopes a few juniors (including Seantrel Henderson and Curtis Porter) don't turn pro, too. UM lost five early entrants to the NFL last year, but Al Golden said Tuesday: "There's a stronger relationship with a lot of these young men [now].... A lot of guys understand from last year, perhaps guys would have gone higher if they had stayed. We want to make sure they have the facts, not just leaning on one side."

### Golden, on his WQAM radio show Tuesday night: "The thing people don't understand and accept is I want to be here for a really long time."

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 4 years ago '12        #12106
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 C.R.I.P. said:
NCAA DONT GOT sh*t. This is Desperation.
They want blood, we may get USCed.
 4 years ago '08        #12107
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 C.R.I.P. said:
NCAA DONT GOT sh*t. This is Desperation.
What you mean that's how it works even in the judicial system. One party talked the other didn't so they have to go with who talked because the party who didn't seems to be hiding something. For the players who did talk like Jacorey & Ray Ray they admitted to taking stuff already so the NCAA knows dude ain't lying they just trying to know the depth of it
 4 years ago '07        #12108
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Lol in the court it doesnt work like that if you committed a crime your testimony is seen as shaky unless you have evidencs and 100% proof.....

A dude with a long rap sheet word isnt being taken at mouth value
 4 years ago '05        #12109
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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Hopefully our ex canes lawyer up and buck back at the NCAA.
 4 years ago '08        #12110
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 L-E-Dub bi*ch said:
Lol in the court it doesnt work like that if you committed a crime your testimony is seen as shaky unless you have evidencs and 100% proof.....

A dude with a long rap sheet word isnt being taken at mouth value
If the evidence is word of mouth and a n*gga us pleading the 5th by not defending himself he's going to jail brah. Just like if a murder is committed if a dude says Josh did it, they gonna bring Josh in for questioning if Josh says I ain't telling yall sh*t they gonna let Josh go for the moment but if there's no evidence of Josh NOT doing it but two or more ppl saying he did no matter how long a n*gga rap sheet is Josh is gone.

This is what's happening with Miami yall ex players not saying it didn't happen and a couple of players said it did why wouldn't they take the word of the n*ggas they have over the dudes who not saying sh*t?
 4 years ago '04        #12111
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The former players don't have anything to do with the NCAA anymore so their not obligated to do anything, it's out of the ncaa's jurisdiction.

Basically this is blackmail and extortion. They fu*ked up and showed their hand.
 4 years ago '05        #12112
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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Fruck that them n*ggas in the league

Lawyer the fu*k up, watch the NCAA shrivel
 4 years ago '05        #12113
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In the wake of numerous former University of Miami football players receiving an ultimatum from the NCAA, an attorney representing several of those players said Wednesday he has contacted the NCAA to challenge its position.

The NCAA has threatened to a.ssume that Nevin Shapiro’s allegations against them are true if they do not agree to be interviewed by the NCAA by the end of the week.

Meanwhile, a prominent Miami attorney not involved in the case said those players potentially would have legal grounds for lawsuits if the NCAA follows through on that threat.

“It would be catastrophic for the NCAA to do something that outrageous,” said Miami attorney Ben Kuehne, a former president of the Miami-Dade County Bar a.ssociation.

The NCAA last week sent a letter to numerous former UM players and their attorneys telling them they have a Friday deadline to speak to the NCAA about Shapiro’s allegations against them, adding: “If we do not hear back from you or your clients by that time, the staff will consider the non-response as your client’s admission of involvement in NCAA violations.”

The letter was signed by Molly Richman, a.ssistant director of the NCAA enforcement. The NCAA’s infractions committee — not the enforcement department — ultimately will decide the University of Miami’s penalty, which might not be handed out until next summer.

Miami attorney Bruce Fleisher, who represents several former UM players who received the letter, said he wrote to the NCAA and made clear that his clients are not admitting to any violations if they don’t respond by the deadline.

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 4 years ago '04        #12114
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 Deeangoe said:
Dumbass NCAA bullsh*tting with their bluff. Couldn't find any telling evidence besides what Shapiro and the Yahoo reporter said so they're simply throwing a hail mary and holding their breath
 11-24-2012, 04:45 PM         #12115
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I wish their were stats for how much McGee is thrown at vs the other CBs

It's fu*king crazy how often you seem to hear his name getting thrown at, flagged, caught on

Get some pressure from the d-line next season

Overall could be a little better year if Miami can stay in those games against tougher teams

i mean they lost to 3 top teams in K-State, FSU, ND and then UV and UNC who they shoulda beat


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 4 years ago '04        #12116
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Well another season is in the books fellas, unfortunately ours is ending early again. We finally won the Coastal at least.

The good news is we only lose literally a handful of players (Mike James, McGee, Botts, Wieclaw), and those guys are all replaceable, the hardest being Botts. We should have a really really good team next year.

Duke Johnson, hasn't even been through a college off-season program yet..think about that.


Ref's still tryna fu*k us over I see.
 4 years ago '08        #12117
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Duke will be fu*king dudes in the a.ss next season....that's how good he'll be.....and then we have Howard, Bush, Dorsett, Waters, Kirby all getting better....we eating good
 4 years ago '07        #12118
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AL Golden got a gem building in the hurricanes half our team will be going thru there first offseason program

Gotta get Eddie Johnson head together hes to good to lose

Kacy rodgers has most likely played his last snaps on defense ever

Tracy howard is gonna be fu*king nice that boy was putting his nose in there today

Duke>>> Words cant describe him lets all enjoy.his final 2 yrs
 4 years ago '05        #12119
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CORAL GABLES, Fla. - University of Miami freshman Duke Johnson was named both the ACC Offensive and Overall Rookie of the Year, announced Tuesday by the Atlantic Coast Sports Media a.ssociation (ACSMA).
Johnson is the first Hurricane to win the rookie award following a breakout season in which he broke Clinton Portis' 13-year-old school rushing record for freshmen, ending the season with 947 yards.

"It means a lot being the first in Miami history to win this award it means so much to me and the team because I couldn't do it without my teammates," Johnson said. "And this is just another way to make my mom proud and show how I really appreciate the sacrifices she made for me when I was younger."

On Monday, the freshman speedster was selected to the All-ACC second team as both a running back and specialist. The five-time ACC Rookie of the Week honoree posted one of the best all-around freshman seasons in program history, accumulating 2,070 all-purpose yards (second-most in program history) and 13 touchdowns in 2012.

The Miami, Fla., product also set a Miami single-season record with 892 kick return yards and two touchdowns on 27 tries. He leads the ACC with a 33.04 kick return average - the fourth-best in FBS. His 947 rushing yards are the fourth-most among FBS freshmen, and he is tied as the national leader with 11 all-purpose plays of 50+ yards.

For the latest information on Miami Hurricanes Football, follow @HurricaneSports on Twitter and the official blog for Hurricanes Football, .
Duuuke

 4 years ago '05        #12120
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Ronald Darby won Defensive Rookie of the Year if any of you care.........Tracy didn't though.
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