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 6 years ago '05        #9781
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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yeah except for the fact that we are not the same person?
 6 years ago '05        #9782
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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but enough about me, since we are in a Miami thread, what other 3 stars are you guys gonna close with this year?
 6 years ago '10        #9783
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The same person? Haha you cane fans are dumb as fuk. You act like two fsu fans that hate Miami is an abnormality.... Dumbazz
 6 years ago '08        #9784
primetime 60 heat pts60
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 Junior G said:
Howard isnt goin to Miami, he's goin to Florida.......he already said he wanted to grow up and get out of Miami, he really wants to get out of Florida but Gainesville and TAlly are far enough.


only 5 star Miami is seein is Duke's overrated a.ss, n the reason you got him is because we didnt give him a committable offer
how exactly is Duke overrated? :wtf:

Duke >>>>> any recruit FSU got...
 6 years ago '05        #9785
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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 primetime said:
how exactly is Duke overrated? :wtf:

Duke >>>>> any recruit FSU got...
lmao that clown aint even top 10....we got 2 of the top 10 players in the country. 3 as soon as Goldman commits.....Miami is a joke. bunch of offbrand recruits
 6 years ago '05        #9786
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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yall gonna get Tracy Howard unfortunately
 6 years ago '07        #9787
Kinglew88 14 heat pts14
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We got crawford they saying
 6 years ago '07        #9788
Kinglew88 14 heat pts14
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Yep Antonio Crawford Committed To Us

Huge Pickup at a position of need
 6 years ago '05        #9789
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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 L-E-Dub bi*ch said:
We got crawford they saying
scout post

According to TOS, this was his facebook status a couple of minutes ago:

To all my fb family and friends im proud to say that for the next 4 years i will be going to the UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI #GO CANES!!!
 01-29-2012, 02:48 PM         #9790
canesin2099  OP
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Two-star athlete Antonio Crawford (Tampa Bay, Fla./Plant Senior) has flipped his commitment from Georgia Tech to Miami (FL), Scout.com reports.

Crawford had committed to Georgia Tech last summer. He also had offers from Ball State, Bowling Green, Florida International, Iowa State and Ohio.

ESPNU describes Crawford as a strong tackler that should be able to excel in a Cover 2 scheme.
 6 years ago '04        #9791
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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inb4juniorsaysgoodjobonstacking2starplayers
 01-30-2012, 09:56 AM         #9792
db305  OP
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just some notable 3 stars of the past few years:

Justin Blackmon- OK St.
Morris Claiborne- LSU
Kenjon Barner- Oregon
Tramain Thomas- Arkansas
Kellen Moore- Boise St.
Doug Martin (2-star)- Boise St.
David DeCastro- Stanford
Jonathan Martin- Stanford
Jerel Worthy- Michigan State
Kirk Cousins- Michigan State
Russell Wilson (2-star)- NC St./Wisconsin
Kendall Wright- Baylor
Tank Carder (2-star)- TCU
Case Keenum (2-star)- Houston
Collin Klein- Kansas St.
Isaiah Pead- Cincinnati

Muhammad Wilkerson (2-star)- Temple (under Golden's coaching staff. first rounder)


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 6 years ago '05        #9793
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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yep all your 25 three and two stars gonna be supastars, can't wait
 01-30-2012, 10:36 AM         #9794
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 Junior G said:
yep all your 25 three and two stars gonna be supastars, can't wait
or if you want to look at it from your standpoint.

ponder
dekoda watson
mister alexander
datko
rhodes

and the best offensive lineman in fsu history.
 6 years ago '05        #9795
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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lmao I hated Ponder and he's gettin exposed in the NFL like I knew he would, Watson was just ok. Alexander could hit but thats it. Datko was ok, Rhodes is the closest thing to being great on that list. and no Rodney Hudson was not the best OLineman in FSU history, that would be Alex Barron or Tra Thomas and that's just IMO...there are others you could argue

i could make a list of our 4 and 5 stars vs our 3 stars n it would be a pretty unfair game, same goes for yall.
 01-30-2012, 11:34 AM         #9796
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 Junior G said:
lmao I hated Ponder and he's gettin exposed in the NFL like I knew he would, Watson was just ok. Alexander could hit but thats it. Datko was ok, Rhodes is the closest thing to being great on that list. and no Rodney Hudson was not the best OLineman in FSU history, that would be Alex Barron or Tra Thomas and that's just IMO...there are others you could argue

i could make a list of our 4 and 5 stars vs our 3 stars n it would be a pretty unfair game, same goes for yall.
i'm just saying not to say that 3 star players should be counted out. the star system does evaluate players well, but there are other factors that play in when transitioning to college. same with college to the nfl. mental toughness and maturity aren't measurable (think ryan leaf). 2 of your 3-stars are .1 away on the rivals scale from being 4-stars, and we have a bunch in the same situation. if they were an inch or two taller, a couple pounds heavier, or ran a couple hundredths faster in the 40, they'd have that extra star. same goes with 4-stars that are .1 away from being 3-stars. 4 of your 4-stars and 5 of ours are .1 away from being 3-star recruits.
 6 years ago '05        #9797
Junior G 116 heat pts116
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teams get lucky with a 2 or 3 star recruit NOT 23 OF THEM......most of your little recruits will stay the bums that God intended them to be, they weren't built in Eddie Goldman or Mario Edwards or Jameis Winston's mold.
 01-30-2012, 02:22 PM         #9798
canesin2099  OP
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Just for junior.

DURING THE PAST YEAR, colleges have spent millions of dollars and thousands of hours scouting high school football players, breaking them down on film, ranking them on secret lists, feting them with parties and hostesses and luring them with scholarship offers. On Feb. 1, national signing day, we'll get to see which programs did the best job in their recruiting. What could be more fun? If your favorite school lands the best athletes in the country, it will lead to years of bowl victories and contending for national championships, right?



Not so fast, my friends. New research shows that the connection between landing top preps and winning games is shockingly weak -- so much so that fans should rethink how they judge a coach's recruiting efforts.



Four major services rate football recruits on a scale of one to five stars: ESPN, Rivals, Scout and 24/7 Sports. Sometimes these rankings differ, but there's usually at least a rough consensus among the services about most players. This year, for example, they all agree that safety Landon Collins, receivers Stefon Diggs and Dorial Green-Beckham, defensive tackle Eddie Goldman and quarterback Gunner Kiel are among the game's best prospects.



But getting any of them to sign a letter of intent doesn't guarantee much. Winthrop Intelligence, a college sports research outfit, recently analyzed every recruiting class from 2006 to 2010, tracking how more than 11,000 prep stars affected their college programs' success. Winthrop found no correlation between the number of recruits with three or more stars on an FBS team and its subsequent winning percentages. "We checked more than 100 performance statistics, including points, yards and touchdowns," the company writes in a report. "We found no significant relationship between higher-ranked recruiting classes and better performance statistics."




Why? Kevin Barefoot, Winthrop's director of marketing, offers one obvious explanation: "Talent evaluation is subjective," he says. I'll offer another reason: There's no sure path from prowess to greatness for teenage athletes. Lots of players stop developing physically in college, while others get injured or lose motivation or transfer to other schools. Last year, The Mag looked at players who had been the No. 1 high school recruit in the country in the past 25 years. The list included a few players who proceeded to dominate in college, such as Vince Young and Ted Ginn Jr., but it also included a couple of flameouts like Xavier Crawford, Marquette Smith, Randy Fasani and Kyle Wright.



So if the quality of recruits doesn't determine a program's success, what does? Well, D. Shane Miller, a doctoral student at the University of Arizona, recently compared winning percentages for major-conference teams with the average ranking of their recruiting classes since 2008. Like Winthrop, Miller found a weak overall correlation, but he also discovered that certain programs do seem to over- or underachieve given what they have to work with. Kansas State, for example, exceeded expectations more than any other school, while Ole Miss underperformed most drastically. Miller thinks that's largely because of coaching. As he puts it: "No one should ever hire Houston Nutt."



Bottom line: Some coaches are better than others at identifying talented players suited for their systems and molding their skills, whatever the star system says. In the past four years, for example, Texas' recruits rated higher than Boise State's, Florida State's higher than Oklahoma State's. But the Broncos and Cowboys have combined for an .867 winning percentage versus .685 for the Longhorns and Seminoles. And the impact of coaching extends beyond the confines of Saturday's playing fields. From 2006 to 2010, Frank Beamer of Virginia Tech and Brian Kelly of Cincinnati and Notre Dame each coached 15 players who received two stars or fewer as recruits; the NFL later drafted all of them.



It's fun to see where the best prep players in the country decide to go to college. But schools recruit like crazy because they like to collect baubles and because their rivals recruit like crazy, not because there's any demonstrable benefit to doing so. The emerging research says we'd do better to evaluate programs by how they develop talent, not how they find it.



It turns out coaching is really about coaching, not recruiting.
 6 years ago '04        #9799
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We could possibly end with Howard, Young and Hamilton.
 01-30-2012, 02:35 PM         #9800
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 C.R.I.P. said:
We could possibly end with Howard, Young and Hamilton.
We get any of those 3 I'll be pretty happy, we get two I will be ecstatic, we get all 3 and I will name my 2nd child Al, male or female.
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