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 6 years ago '07        #8461
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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theres word that diggs is a silent

so maybe thats why wes got us at 1
 6 years ago '11        #8463
mester 2 heat pts
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 L-E-Dub bi*ch said:
theres word that diggs is a silent

so maybe thats why wes got us at 1
feel sorry for them boyz then. Karlos... Wait let me say that again Karlos... Pj, Waisome, LJ etc will be ready for them n*ggas.
 6 years ago '07        #8464
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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 6 years ago '11        #8465
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 P. Dedos said:
talking about feeling sorry. i feel sorry for all those losers you jut named because they are just going to be left with a free shoes diploma which isnt worth the paper its written on anyways in four years there family going to ask them u had big NFL dreams what the fu*k happened to you back to mommas house you go or get a beer and sit on the curb
why do u care about these dudes nd what they do after they leave college???
 07-02-2011, 07:02 PM         #8466
db305  OP
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Looking at stats are overrated. Stats do not tell half the story you idiot. You are posting 2007 stats of an offense with incoming freshman who did not touch campus until late June. What's the point of that? You name me a freshman QB who did not take any lumps in their first year of playing.

2007 was Jimmy Clausens first year with Notre Dame. You're expecting a freshman right out of high school to come in throw 40 TDs like he did his senior year in high school? You said it yourself learning a pro-style offense is hard to learn, but you have to nerve to post the stats of an offense with an incoming freshman and expect him to win the Heisman his first season in college He threw 7 TD's and 6 INT's 1200 yards.

2008 You can see that Jimmy made huge strides which improved the offense from ranked 119 to 65. 25 TD's 17 Int's 3,100 yards passing. His INTs went up due to him being a huge risk taker.

2009 He attempted 15 less passes than he did his junior season and threw for 28 TD's and only 4 Int's. He led them to being the 8th best offense in the country. I am not even going to bring up his QB rating over his three career at Notre Dame Mr. Stat man

Now on to Brady Quinn, Brady Quinn's second season was better than his freshman year, but when Weis got there he had Brady throwing up some crazy numbers. If you think Charlie Weis did not help out Brady any you are fool.

2005 Junior Season 109 QB rating that was almost 30 more points that his sophmore season . 32 Touchdowns 7Int's. He threw 15 more touchdowns and 3 less INTs. 2006 his senior season QB rating dropped 5 points, but threw 37TDs 5 more than his Jr. season and the INTs stayed the same.

Let me draw my Conclusion. When you research stats, they do not tell whole story. Stats do not take in the fact of how someone is inexperinced at another level of football. But stats do show the improvement that someone has had over there career beginning from their freshman year.

When you try use stats in an arguement you need to have reasoning into what you are saying instead of throwing up numbers and making it seem as if you are right just because of the numbers only, you need to go in depth. You need evidence that backs you up, not just the number. I thought you may have learned this in college when you took Statistics, but obviously you didn't Or did you not take statistics in college?

Now carry on with your life.

1) Yet again you don't answer to the topic of your argument: that Notre Dame's defense was the root of their struggles (it was only the case in 2009).

2) I never said that Weis' arrival in South Bend didn't help Quinn. It did and ended up being the perfect fit with an experienced quarterback. It happens that his years of experience helped him adapt to the system much faster. His increase in TDs is definitely attributable to the new offense, I acknowledge that, but his decrease in INTs can't be wholly credited to the system. Throwing picks is a result of a combination of the quarterback's decision-making, which is vastly improved with experience (Jacory seems to be the exception to this) and execution of the play and he made great decisions and had the athleticism to execute. Quinn's rating did jump 30 points between his sophomore and junior seasons (125.6 to 158.8) but he also threw 146 less passes in 2004, just short of 1/3 of the passes he threw in 2005.

3) You still have yet to validate your claim that Muschamp being a great defensive coordinator will automatically translate to being a great head coach.


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 6 years ago '07        #8467
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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Damn he still goin in on liljay

Let him be....
 6 years ago '04        #8468
madness 14 heat pts14
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i dont know who that db305 guy is...but i see he's already slaying n*ggas, so welcome to the fam
 6 years ago '05        #8469
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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 db305 said:
1) Yet again you don't answer to the topic of your argument: that Notre Dame's defense was the root of their struggles (it was only the case in 2009).
You do know that a 39th defense is not good right? Look at the amount of points they gave up in 2007

33 to G-Tech
31 to PSU
38 to Michigan
31 to MSU
33 to Purdue
38 to USC
46 to Navy
41 to Air Force

Thats not even good at all. Most of Notre Dames games that year were over by the first half. Once teams got up on them they called the dogs off in the 2nd half. That 39th defense you was bragging about could of be worst than that. A top 15 defense in college football is good. Why should a team score more points when they know the opposing team with no actual experience cannot score

How do you expect to win games when you defense giving up over 30 points a game

Lets move on to 2008. The defense was still not good and was ranked 39th. They played against teams that were average at best. They played against Michigan team that was changing over to the spread. A Stanford team with Andrew Luck then, but still got pounded on the ground.

There schedule was not even tough that year. They still could not stop anyone

You tried man, but you need to try a little harder next time.
 6 years ago '04        #8470
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Whats good fellas, it's been a minute. How yall feel about the upcoming season ?
 6 years ago '04        #8471
madness 14 heat pts14
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oh sh*t it's the O.G. legend CRIP:wow:

i think we'll be aight. guys will have to buy into the new coaching staff/philosophy, plus we're still trying to weed out all the losers from the team.

this season will all come down to QB play. if we get a typical 18-20 pick season from jacory and morris, then 8 wins. if we get a 12-15 pick season, 9 wins. if they're able to cut down drastically on picks, then 10 wins isnt out of the question, especially with our schedule.
 07-04-2011, 09:56 PM         #8472
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
You do know that a 39th defense is not good right? Look at the amount of points they gave up in 2007

33 to G-Tech
31 to PSU
38 to Michigan
31 to MSU
33 to Purdue
38 to USC
46 to Navy
41 to Air Force

Thats not even good at all. Most of Notre Dames games that year were over by the first half. Once teams got up on them they called the dogs off in the 2nd half. That 39th defense you was bragging about could of be worst than that. A top 15 defense in college football is good. Why should a team score more points when they know the opposing team with no actual experience cannot score

How do you expect to win games when you defense giving up over 30 points a game

Lets move on to 2008. The defense was still not good and was ranked 39th. They played against teams that were average at best. They played against Michigan team that was changing over to the spread. A Stanford team with Andrew Luck then, but still got pounded on the ground.

There schedule was not even tough that year. They still could not stop anyone

You tried man, but you need to try a little harder next time.
39th is better than 66% of the country in total defense and only 33.4 yards away from the 15th ranked total d in 2007 (TCU) and 34.9 away from the 15th ranked in 2008 (FSU). Scoring defense ranked 72nd in 2007 and 42nd in 2008, scoring offense was 116th and 66th, time of possession was 107th and 25th. These stats say that their offense was complete garbage in 2007 and that their offense moved the ball well and couldn't score in 2008. So given your a.ssertion that their 39th out of 119 defenses wasn't good against average teams, their offense was fared even worse. If they had played from far behind the entire time, their total offense (119 in 07 and 65 in 08) should have been higher in both years because they would have more offensive opportunities since the other teams would be less aggressive with a big lead. Instead, you have the worst total offense in 2007 and one better than under 50% of the country in 2008.
 6 years ago '04        #8473
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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 db305 said:
39th is better than 66% of the country in total defense and only 33.4 yards away from the 15th ranked total d in 2007 (TCU) and 34.9 away from the 15th ranked in 2008 (FSU). Scoring defense ranked 72nd in 2007 and 42nd in 2008, scoring offense was 116th and 66th, time of possession was 107th and 25th. These stats say that their offense was complete garbage in 2007 and that their offense moved the ball well and couldn't score in 2008. So given your a.ssertion that their 39th out of 119 defenses wasn't good against average teams, their offense was fared even worse. If they had played from far behind the entire time, their total offense (119 in 07 and 65 in 08) should have been higher in both years because they would have more offensive opportunities since the other teams would be less aggressive with a big lead. Instead, you have the worst total offense in 2007 and one better than under 50% of the country in 2008.
ouch.


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 6 years ago '04        #8474
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 madness said:
oh sh*t it's the O.G. legend CRIP:wow:

i think we'll be aight. guys will have to buy into the new coaching staff/philosophy, plus we're still trying to weed out all the losers from the team.

this season will all come down to QB play. if we get a typical 18-20 pick season from jacory and morris, then 8 wins. if we get a 12-15 pick season, 9 wins. if they're able to cut down drastically on picks, then 10 wins isnt out of the question, especially with our schedule.
Word. I got us going for 9 wins at best, which wouldn't be terrible in AG's first year. Too many holes outside of OL and RB.

btw we better not lose to the Noles this year, they were the whole reason why I was gone from BX. It's pretty much been a year, or damn close.
 6 years ago '07        #8475
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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I Got Us For 9 wins to

OL Deep
Rb I think we'll be alright
WR we got plenty.someone just gotta step up and shine
TE is stacked

DL is beastly
Lbs is beastly
Secondary we very inexperienced so the front 7 will have to get it in to hide this hole. Maybe the secondary will step up tho....lets get it


 6 years ago '04        #8476
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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10 wins this year... maybe even 11.

Very favorable schedule... only two games I see losing is virginia tech and florida state and that's because of what's happened in the last two years especially with VT. We going to Blacksburg which isn't ever easy and we playing fsu on the road as well. North Carolina is gonna give us problems too.

however, ohio state, maryland, kansas state, duke, boston college, virginia, bethune, georgia tech, usf are all winnable games.

No need to be flashy... which is where Whipple failed so bad here.... we have arguably the best offensive line in the ACC and top 5 in the country, stud RBs... we can literary run our way through this schedule. The toughest run defenses we're facing here are FSU, Boston College, OSU and UNC.

If Shannon somehow 9 games two years ago on pure talent and a harder schedule, Golden can surpass that mark with the way he's been running the show since he took over.
 6 years ago '11        #8477
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 C.R.I.P. said:
Word. I got us going for 9 wins at best, which wouldn't be terrible in AG's first year. Too many holes outside of OL and RB.

btw we better not lose to the Noles this year, they were the whole reason why I was gone from BX. It's pretty much been a year, or damn close.

 6 years ago '07        #8478
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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I got bout 9 wins also, as much as we hate on Jacory now, he still produces somewhat and Im sure Golden's not gonna let him slide with throwing all those INT's like Shannon/Whipple did. The RB"s and WR"s and O-line all have depth and talent, Im hoping for a big year from Miller and a breakout year for Bryd/Streeter. Especially Laron, hes got NFL talent and Im tired of seeing it go to waste. Sidenote, where the fu*k is Aldarius throughout this offseason???

Defense should be aiteee I hope, I just hate to see no experience at CB. D-line is stacked as usual, Spence alone should make the LB's respectable, and we all know what Vaughn and Ray Ray can do

Like Cap said, if we keep it simple and just let the talent take over, sh*t should work out

Imma be at that maryland game first week, in Bryd stadium with my uni like while we stomping on the terps


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 07-05-2011, 08:39 PM         #8479
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Any truth to the rumors about FSU being in trouble with the NCAA over the recruitment of Lamarcus Joyner?
 6 years ago '04        #8480
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 The Lefty said:
Any truth to the rumors about FSU being in trouble with the NCAA over the recruitment of Lamarcus Joyner?
There are rumblings out there that FSU is next on the Yahoo Sports/ NCAA list.
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