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 06-26-2011, 05:14 PM         #8421
db305  OP
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Will Muschamp may have never been a HC, but what is the difference? He was a great DC and I am pretty sure anyone can be a HC with good talent if the players want to be coached up.
Randy Shannon was a surefire Broyles Award-winning DC, an honor Muschamp never won, and that didn't work out so great for the Canes.

You also have Charlie Weis as the OC, who couldn't even call the right plays for Notre Dame against weaker and slower defenses than he will face in the SEC on a week-to-week basis.
 6 years ago '04        #8422
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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 db305 said:
Randy Shannon was a surefire Broyles Award-winning DC, an honor Muschamp never won, and that didn't work out so great for the Canes.

You also have Charlie Weis as the OC, who couldn't even call the right plays for Notre Dame against weaker and slower defenses than he will face in the SEC on a week-to-week basis.
this dude's first post was pure piff, straight fire ether
 6 years ago '05        #8423
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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 db305 said:
Randy Shannon was a surefire Broyles Award-winning DC, an honor Muschamp never won, and that didn't work out so great for the Canes.

You also have Charlie Weis as the OC, who couldn't even call the right plays for Notre Dame against weaker and slower defenses than he will face in the SEC on a week-to-week basis.
Get the hell outta here you clown a.ss n*gga. Shannon won that award in 2001 with one of the best defenses in collge football history. That defense was loaded. You and I could of got that award with that defense.

When Weis was at Notre Dame had a good offense in college football. You have to remember Notre Dame only recruits good kids that come from good families and have very high GPA's, so that takes them out the market for better players with better skill sets.

Now that he is at UF he does not have to worry about that anymore. Getting into UF is not easy, but it is not as difficult as trying to get into Notre Dame. What you have to remember UF is going to get the best athletes in the country & Charlie already stated that Florida has the most speed he has ever seen on one team and that is including the NFL

@ Charlies coaching slow teams when he was O-Coordinator in the NFL coaching against some of the best athletes alive and has 3 super bowls I swear for your first post was one of the dumbest ones I have read.


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 6 years ago '04        #8424
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Get the hell outta here you clown a.ss n*gga. Shannon won that award in 2001 with one of the best defenses in collge football history. That defense was loaded. You and I could of got that award with that defense.

When Weis was at Notre Dame had a good offense in college football. You have to remember Notre Dame only recruits good kids that come from good families and have very high GPA's, so that takes them out the market for better players with better skill sets.

Now that he is at UF he does not have to worry about that anymore. Getting into UF is not easy, but it is not as difficult as trying to get into Notre Dame. What you have to remember UF is going to get the best athletes in the country & Charlie already stated that Florida has the most speed he has ever seen on one team and that is including the NFL

@ Charlies coaching slow teams when he was O-Coordinator in the NFL coaching against some of the best athletes alive and has 3 super bowls I swear for your first post was one of the dumbest ones I have read.
stopped reading there. Notre Dame recruits the best of the best in the country. Not all good high school athletes have poor grades.
 6 years ago '05        #8425
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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 Cap Peeler said:
stopped reading there. Notre Dame recruits the best of the best in the country. Not all good high school athletes have poor grades.
I didn't say that, but lets be realistic here, Notre Dame does recruit some of the best football players in the country.

I am not saying all high school athletes have good grades, but most of the good athletes would not even get in Notre Dame. I am not even calling them dumb. They have different standard when it comes to kids enrolling their compared to likes of Alabama, Auburn and etc.

You can't compare recruiting at Florida to recruiting at Notre Dame.


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 6 years ago '04        #8426
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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Reggie Northrup just committed. Best linebacker from jacksonville
 6 years ago '04        #8427
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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that n*gga Golden gonna be done with this class before the start of camp
 6 years ago '07        #8428
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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Golden snatching everything

 6 years ago '07        #8429
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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Also we have to give thanks to ray lewis guest apperance it played a part
 6 years ago '07        #8430
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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Damn, just peeked at the 2012 commit list

Golden Goooooon
 6 years ago '05        #8431
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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dont players report today :dancingcool:
 6 years ago '07        #8432
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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 Deeangoe said:
dont players report today :dancingcool:
Yea all this week

I posted it a pg or 2 back
 06-29-2011, 01:28 AM         #8433
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
Get the hell outta here you clown a.ss n*gga. Shannon won that award in 2001 with one of the best defenses in collge football history. That defense was loaded. You and I could of got that award with that defense.

When Weis was at Notre Dame had a good offense in college football. You have to remember Notre Dame only recruits good kids that come from good families and have very high GPA's, so that takes them out the market for better players with better skill sets.

Now that he is at UF he does not have to worry about that anymore. Getting into UF is not easy, but it is not as difficult as trying to get into Notre Dame. What you have to remember UF is going to get the best athletes in the country & Charlie already stated that Florida has the most speed he has ever seen on one team and that is including the NFL

@ Charlies coaching slow teams when he was O-Coordinator in the NFL coaching against some of the best athletes alive and has 3 super bowls I swear for your first post was one of the dumbest ones I have read.
Miami had a top 10 defense in all but one season under Shannon. His 2003 (2nd ranked) and 2005 (4th ranked) defenses were better statistically than 2001 (6th ranked) when he won it.
Want to talk inheriting great college players? Weis had great seasons with Willingham's players (Quinn and Samardzija) but when they left he coached one of the worst stretches in Notre Dame history.
You are correct in saying that UF recruiting is easier and that they get better athletes, but any idiot with half a brain can get into UF. Not to say that it's a bad school, but it doesn't take a lot upstairs to get in so he will naturally have more perks like speed. But to run a complicated pro-style offense, that takes years for NFL players to perfect, you need to have a lot working in your mind. If Weis' high GPA athletes at Notre Dame couldn't run the offense correctly, then you better hope that he dumbs it down a bit for UF's.
I hope my second post registers a little higher in your mind compared to my dumb first one. I'm going to guess that you'll probably say that I'm an idiot or something a little sophomoric and then back it up with some reasoning that you've come up with based on little to no actual knowledge of the subject aside from what's in the typical Gator fan's repertoire.
 6 years ago '04        #8434
Cap Peeler 7 heat pts
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 db305 said:
Miami had a top 10 defense in all but one season under Shannon. His 2003 (2nd ranked) and 2005 (4th ranked) defenses were better statistically than 2001 (6th ranked) when he won it.
Want to talk inheriting great college players? Weis had great seasons with Willingham's players (Quinn and Samardzija) but when they left he coached one of the worst stretches in Notre Dame history.
You are correct in saying that UF recruiting is easier and that they get better athletes, but any idiot with half a brain can get into UF. Not to say that it's a bad school, but it doesn't take a lot upstairs to get in so he will naturally have more perks like speed. But to run a complicated pro-style offense, that takes years for NFL players to perfect, you need to have a lot working in your mind. If Weis' high GPA athletes at Notre Dame couldn't run the offense correctly, then you better hope that he dumbs it down a bit for UF's.
I hope my second post registers a little higher in your mind compared to my dumb first one. I'm going to guess that you'll probably say that I'm an idiot or something a little sophomoric and then back it up with some reasoning that you've come up with based on little to no actual knowledge of the subject aside from what's in the typical Gator fan's repertoire.
damn where did this kid come from??

two posts and he fatality that f*ggot a.ss gaytor n*gga
 6 years ago '07        #8435
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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TE Brandon Holifield Committed To Us
 6 years ago '04        #8436
KiNgJaMeS305|M 58 heat pts58
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 Cap Peeler said:
damn where did this kid come from??

two posts and he fatality that f*ggot a.ss gaytor n*gga
sorry i didnt mean to post those two post on my alias account..... (no i dont have an alias acct).... Im nominating him for mod :)
 6 years ago '05        #8437
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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dude puttin in that work
 6 years ago '05        #8438
Lil Jay 05 19 heat pts19
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 db305 said:
Miami had a top 10 defense in all but one season under Shannon. His 2003 (2nd ranked) and 2005 (4th ranked) defenses were better statistically than 2001 (6th ranked) when he won it.
Want to talk inheriting great college players? Weis had great seasons with Willingham's players (Quinn and Samardzija) but when they left he coached one of the worst stretches in Notre Dame history.
You are correct in saying that UF recruiting is easier and that they get better athletes, but any idiot with half a brain can get into UF. Not to say that it's a bad school, but it doesn't take a lot upstairs to get in so he will naturally have more perks like speed. But to run a complicated pro-style offense, that takes years for NFL players to perfect, you need to have a lot working in your mind. If Weis' high GPA athletes at Notre Dame couldn't run the offense correctly, then you better hope that he dumbs it down a bit for UF's.
I hope my second post registers a little higher in your mind compared to my dumb first one. I'm going to guess that you'll probably say that I'm an idiot or something a little sophomoric and then back it up with some reasoning that you've come up with based on little to no actual knowledge of the subject aside from what's in the typical Gator fan's repertoire.
@ Weis inheriting great players if you watched Notre Dame before Weis got their you would know that Quinn was not sh*t. Weis turned his whole career around while he was at Notre Dame. When you try to talk sh*t you need to have an idea before talking it dumbass

Offense was never a problem for Notre Dame you dumb fu*k, the defense could never stop anyone Typical Miami fan for you. The only time Notre Dame struggled is when Jimmy Clausen was starting as a freshman. 90% of the time with a freshman QB they are going have a hard time adjusting to the college game. D o I need to name how many dumb n*ggas there are and where in college football that were in a pro-style offense that went on a had great careers at the school and to the next level?! You're a fu*king idiot I can point a number of FSU & Miami players, but I am not going to waste my time.

Who knows what the offense may look like, it is wait and see. Many schools run a pro-style offense and have success. I doubt he is going to dump the whole playbook on them and tell them to learn it. There are still college students. I will say this though, Florida is loaded with way more talent than fu*king Notre Dame.

Now that is Ether my friend. :greetings10:


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 06-29-2011, 08:09 PM         #8439
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 Lil Jay 05 said:
@ Weis inheriting great players if you watched Notre Dame before Weis got their you would know that Quinn was not sh*t. Weis turned his whole career around while he was at Notre Dame. When you try to talk sh*t you need to have an idea before talking it dumbass

Offense was never a problem for Notre Dame you dumb fu*k, the defense could never stop anyone Typical Miami fan for you. The only time Notre Dame struggled is when Jimmy Clausen was starting as a freshman. 90% of the time with a freshman QB they are going have a hard time adjusting to the college game. D o I need to name how many dumb n*ggas there are and where in college football that were in a pro-style offense that went on a had great careers at the school and to the next level?! You're a fu*king idiot I can point a number of FSU & Miami players, but I am not going to waste my time.

Who knows what the offense may look like, it is wait and see. Many schools run a pro-style offense and have success. I doubt he is going to dump the whole playbook on them and tell them to learn it. There are still college students. I will say this though, Florida is loaded with way more talent than fu*king Notre Dame.

Now that is Ether my friend. :greetings10:
Notre Dame was 119th in total offense in 2007 (115th ranked rushing and 110th passing) and 65th in 2008 (101st rushing/34th passing). They got up to 8th nationally in Weis' last year (2009) because they threw the ball 37 times a game since they couldn't run with their 84th ranked rushing offense. They also had 4 500+ yard games against Washington (70th total defense), Washington State (118th), Nevada (54th), and Navy (75th) in 2009.

As far as taking the playbook and dumping it on his team? That's literally what he did when he got to Notre Dame. I'm not saying that he is a bad coach, but he is more suited to the NFL game when players can devote 100% of their time to learning the offense. Other teams run pro-style offenses, but those are adapted to the college game while Weis is famous for his complicated plays, NFL terminology, and his ego not letting him compromise his system. Don't get me wrong, if UF develops its quarterbacks and skill players for the long-term and they learn the plays, they will be a perennial top 5 offensive team. It just needs to be proven.

Brady Quinn is somehow a scrub? He had two full years of development and experience before Weis came and went from 9 TDs and 15 INTs in 2003 as a freshman (9 starts) to 15 TDs and 9 INTs as a sophomore. It's not only the playbook that matters, he had two years to learn how to read defenses and adjust to the speed of the college defensive backs in a west coast offense before transitioning to a scheme where the run is (supposed to be) an actual threat to set up the pass.

Also, I noticed that you didn't have any response to my questioning of your logic that just because someone is a top-tier coordinator, they will be a great head coach by default.

Sorry that you feel so threatened by a newcomer on the board making your comments look bad that you have to stoop to insulting a stranger over an electronic medium.
 6 years ago '07        #8440
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