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 8 years ago '04        #4921
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UM's Jacory Harris tells us his throwing shoulder finally is 100 percent after last season's injury and that former Dolphins quarterback Daunte Culpepper has become a ''mentor'' for him. The two will do on-field work together this summer.
hopefully its the pre-2005 culpepper doing the teaching
 8 years ago '04        #4922
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Florida Sports Buzz: South Florida recruiting trail is red-hot

This upcoming football recruiting class is so good that Rivals has 25 South Florida seniors-to-be in its top 200, and analyst Charles Fishbein calls it "one of the best ever in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, as far as the number of kids who will go Division I-A.''

Eight months from signing day, UM is in a fierce battle for several, and some favor UF or FSU. The Canes have six oral commitments: offensive linemen Johnathan Feliciano (Davie Western) and Shane McDermott (Palm Beach Central); defensive tackles Todd Chandler of Northwestern (159th by Rivals) and Jacksonville's Louis Nix (154) and Tavadis Glenn; and Cape Coral cornerback Jeremy Davis. A look at top local prospects and where UM stands (their Rivals national ranking in parentheses):

• Running back: Columbus' 5-9 Jakhari Gore (133; Frank's cousin) has 30-plus offers and said he expects to end up at UM. St. Thomas Aquinas' Giovanni Bernard (173) calls UM a ''terrific'' option.

But Booker T. Washington's Eduardo Clements (115) said FSU and Georgia lead; Miami hasn't offered Central's Brandon Gainer (161).

• Receivers: UM and UF covet Miramar's 6-3 Ivan McCartney (66) -- who has no favorite and compares himself to cousin Chad Johnson -- and Booker T.'s Quinton Dunbar (107), who decommitted from Miami in April. But Dunbar said he and defensive end teammate Lynden Trail want to go to the same college, and both have UF No. 1, though UM hasn't been ruled out.

UM also offered Miami Springs' Willis Wright (likes Miami), Northwestern's Michaelee Harris (told Rivals.com he prefers a Southeastern Conference school), Cardinal Gibbons' Shawn Corker (Texas Tech reportedly favored; UM, UF among five finalists) and Delray Beach Atlantic's James Louis (Gators, UM are 1-2).

But UM hasn't offered Booker T's Ted Meline (92; calls Georgia his favorite) or Central's Joshua Reese (106; UF and FSU offered; he calls it ''kind of shocking'' Miami hasn't).

• Defensive line: Hialeah end Corey Lemonier (71) said ''Miami is high on my list.' 'But so are Alabama, FSU, UF and Tennessee.....Trail (141) said UF is No. 1 - then USC, FSU and UM in that order - because "Urban Meyer takes the time to learn about me and what I like to do.''

• Offensive line: UM covets Northwestern's Torrian Wilson (149) and St. Thomas Aquinas' Brandon Linder (180). Wilson said five finalists are ''about equal,'' including UM and Alabama. Linder, undecided, said "Miami is definitely at the top.''

• Defensive backs: West Palm Beach Dwyer safety Matt Elam (No. 5) is a Gators oral commitment. St. Thomas Aquinas' LaMarcus Joyner (10) said FSU leads -- UM offered ''but I'm not a Miami fan and don't want to be in Miami'' for college. UM is pursuing Boyd Anderson's Demar Dorsey (163; a Gators oral commit) and Cliff Coleman (whose coach said he likely will choose UM or FSU); Hollywood Hills' Tony Grimes; and St. Thomas Aquinas teammates Keion Payne (likes UM) and Brian Robinson.

But St. Thomas Aquinas 5-9 corner Cody Riggs (43) said UM hasn't offered. Notre Dame is widely considered the favorite, with FSU and Georgia pushing hard.

• Keep in mind, UM is focusing a lot of attention out of state, too. The Canes have made strong inroads in Georgia (they landed Prince Kent and Shayon Green in their '09 class), and are strongly in the mix for numerous Class of 2010 Georgia prospects: safety Alec Ogletree (ranked 59th by Rivals); Brian Vogler (No. 6 tight end prospect nationally; UM in his top eight); running back Mack Brown (50; UF and Georgia lead, but UM and FSU are coming on); and cornerbacks Jonathan Mincy (UM is in his top five) and Darius Robinson (told Rivals.com that UM is his slight preference).

• Among the many other very good nonlocal players considering UM, here are four: Ocala receiver Kadron Boone (Devin Hester's cousin); Naples running backs Darion Hall (UM, FSU in top four); Brooksville running back Tevin Drake (averaged eight yards per carry in his career); and Utah quarterback Dallas Lloyd (UM, BYU, Utah, Nebraska and Stanford are his top five).

• UM wants to add 22 or 23 scholarship players in the 2010 class, with offensive line and tight end among the priorities. St. Thomas Aquinas' Michael Palardy, who's undecided, said UM wants him as a punter/kicker.

• Central coach Telly Lockett said Reese, Gainer and Jeffrey Godfrey (Dade's top quarterback) want to attend the same college. South Florida, FSU, Oregon, UF and West Virginia are top contenders. Lockett said he cannot understand why Miami hasn't offered Reese and Gainer: ''They are no-brainers.'' But in general, there are some players that UM wants to see next season before offering.

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• UF is making a big push in Miami-Dade -- Ransom linebacker/Gators oral commitment Gideon Ajagbe (157th) could be UF's first Dade signee since 2005. Meyer said UM ''is hard to beat'' here, but "you can do a good job, and we have.''
 8 years ago '04        #4923
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new running back commit -

only taking 2 running backs this class, other one will prolly be gore
 8 years ago '05        #4924
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lmao love how glen cook played football and is undrafted in the nfl
doesnt even play with the baseball team and gets drafted in the mlb draft

wow my boys from the baseball team must be heated lol
 8 years ago '05        #4925
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I can't believe ya'll took Hall, that n*gga is a.ss...I think FSU offered him too, but wasn't really recruiting him. He will probably end up transferring in 2 years. I have a feeling ya'll not gettin Gore now, which would be a surprise from no where
 8 years ago '05        #4926
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 P. Dedos said:
ass??? thats a lil harsh


we also got a commit from maurice haggins today

nice fullback recruit

i like him better than tiger powell
not a.ss, more like USF, UCF quality type player
 8 years ago '05        #4927
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 P. Dedos said:
funny you say that... you nollie "experts think otherwise





LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


some like him better than Lattimore


thanks for your input the nollie.... see you on labor day!!!
what the f**k do they know??? there's a reason why I don't post on their boards. i'm the only expert here
 8 years ago '05        #4928
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 P. Dedos said:
your coaches wanted him too


alright expert :greetings10:
ok?? and you see where our coaches got us now a.ssy. besides Miami we can't beat nobody else.
 8 years ago '04        #4929
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good to see the staff is back to recruiting actual football players and not putting too much stock into #of stars
 8 years ago '04        #4930
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CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- Fall practices begin in seven weeks, which means a number of new faces will join the team.

Some are already on campus.

There are currently 10 freshmen on campus including six that enrolled in January.

Quarterback A.J. Highsmith, running back Lamar Miller, defensive end Dyron Dye, and safety Ray Ray Armstrong joined the six this summer and are participating in off-season summer workouts.

Highsmith was given number 19, Miller will wear 27, Dye got number 49, and Armstrong will done the 26 as comparisons to Sean Taylor are sure to follow him throughout his career.

Of the four Miller and Armstrong have the best chance of playing in 2009 while Highsmith and Dye, who has gained at least 20 pounds in the past year, are likely to redshirt.

Miller, our top-ranked 2009 player in Miami-Dade who rushed for 1,719 yards and 22 touchdowns as a senior at k!llian, has excellent speed and is already built for the college game at 5-foot-11 and 205 pounds. Despite a logjam at tailback, Miller should excel in fall practices and be given a serious look this fall.

Armstrong has a very strong opportunity to crack the starting lineup this season as a safety. Vaughn Telemaque and Randy Phillips are the team’s top two safeties right now, but don’t be surprised to see Armstrong in there, likely surpassing Phillips. Armstrong is likely the gem of the 2009 signing class and has a bright future ahead of himself as a talented and aggressive 6-foot-4, 215-pound athlete.

The six signees that enrolled in January and participated in spring practices are: RB Mike James, OLs Brandon Washington and Jermaine Johnson, DE Olivier Vernon, DT Curtis Porter, and CB Brandon McGee.

In the spring, James made a quite a splash as he made a number of big runs and displayed a work ethic that impressed the upperclassmen. He is expected to be given a serious look at reps this fall although junior Graig Cooper and Javarris James will be given the first crack.

On the defensive side of the ball, Vernon proved he is deserving to be in the rotation at the defensive end. Vernon did an excellent job throughout the spring and was a bit of a surprise to some with how well he adjusted to the college game.

McGee is going to be a very important piece in this freshmen class as he’s the only true cornerback the team signed. McGee showed flashes in the spring, but a broken finger kept him out for the second half of the spring, which hampered his development. However, all signs point towards McGee being a very good player in the future.

Another freshman who had a sold spring was Washington, who has the potential to be a great guard at Miami. Washington is a physically impressive young player with good strength. a.ssuming he works hard in the offseason and throughout fall practices, he’ll be in the mix this season.

Johnson and Porter are likely to redshirt this season as they are still at least a year off from being serious contributors.

Nine Others Waiting to Enroll

There are nine other freshmen in the 2009 class that are waiting to arrive at UM.

On offense TEs Billy Sanders and Stephen Plein and OLs Malcolm Bunche, Jared Wheeler, and Cory White are still yet to arrive.

The defense is looking to be bolstered with the additions of DT Luther Robinson, LB Shayon Green, DB Prince Kent, and S Jamal Reid.
 8 years ago '04        #4931
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S Wylie Leaving UM
Jun. 20, 2009

By: Christopher Stock





Joe Wylie
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Safety Joe Wylie will not be back at Miami in 2009.

Wylie, a 6-foot-2, 205-pound redshirt freshman safety from Boyd Anderson is transferring from Miami according to his high school coach Mark James.

"He will not be back at Miami this season," James said. "I know he wanted to go somewhere where he could play."

Wylie registered one tackle in one game in 2008 before suffering an injury, which sidelined him the rest of the year.

Wylie is expected to transfer to Tennessee State, a Division I-AA school, according to James.

James spoke with Wylie about his potential encouraging him to stay at Miami while working hard in practice and being patient for his time to come.

"I really hoped he would stay," James said.

Despite the departure of Wylie, Miami appears set at safety for the future with Vaughn Telemaque earning plenty of praise from the coaching staff and incoming freshman Ray Ray Armstrong.

Wylie's father, Joe Wylie Sr., was a standout basketball player at Miami from 1988-91.
 8 years ago '04        #4932
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Canes would prefer to recruit Florida-only

> Posted by Shandel Richardson on June 16, 2009 01:46 PM
CORAL GABLES _ Had a chance to catch up with defensive line coach/recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt Monday to talk a little recruiting.

Hurtt had some interesting things to say when pressed about recruiting wants. Without commenting directly, he kind of shed some light on the whole Bryce Brown situation. Remember how the Hurricanes rescinded their scholarship offer after playing the Brown waiting game?

It just appears UM is focusing more on local talent. The coaching staff would rather stay in Florida than try to lure kids from other stats. They feel the crop is more fertile in area codes such as 305, 561 and 407.

"I'll always take a kid that is highly productive in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County," Hurtt said. "If you give me a running back that runs for 1,000 yards in Florida, I'd take that over a kid that runs for over 2,500 in a lot of other states."

Hurtt said the goal is for the staff to hit as many state high school as possible throughout the recruiting calendar. As he put it, they would rather avoid losing ground here than using resources to go out-of-state.

My question is what should be percentage of Florida players on the roster? 75 percent? 90? 99.9?

I'll have more from Hurtt in a recruiting story that will run in the actual newspaper in the coming days.
 8 years ago '04        #4933
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Luginbill favors UM's new recruiting approach

> Posted by Shandel Richardson on June 15, 2009 12:02 PM
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The UM coaches have been pretty clear about their recruiting intentions.

Gone are the days of strictly going after the so-called four- and five-star recruits. Coach Randy Shannon wants the best football players out there, regardless of what some Internet recruiting website says. The Hurricanes aren't necessarily going after the players who have the best 40 times or bench press, but those who produce on the field.

ESPN recruiting analyst Tom Luginbill said he's in full support of Shannon's decision.

"In my opinion, you've got to stay true to your own evaluation, your own blueprint," Luginbill said. "Don't worry about what everybody else is saying, but that's a very difficult thing to do."

With so many recruiting and scouting services nowadays, it's very easy for coaches to fall victim of the hype. In past interviews, Shannon said UM may have focused too much on the "star system." And the Hurricanes have been burned by it, which has been part to blame for this recent downfall.

"What happens is there is much information out there about guys," Luginbill said. "Most of it can be untrue. A lot of it is perpetuated by people who are claiming to be recruiting analysts, but don't know if a football is pumped or stuffed ...I think there's a fine line between what's a so-called four-star and five-star recruit by today's standard. Remember this is a projection. You're saying something about a guy who is 17 about what he is going to be at 21."
The Hurricanes continue to reel in top talent, but are learning to get a good mix. If you look at the current class, there aren't any of the so-called big-time recruits ... yet. According to the Orlando Sentinel's Top 100 in state, UM's best recruit was only ranked No. 29. Of course, that will likely change in the coming months. Still, it's obvious the Hurricanes are focusing more on their own evaluating.

Luginbill likes to use the example of sophomore linebacker Sean Spence. He was overlooked because of his size, but a player UM recruited heavily because of his talent. Spence is now arguably one of the nation's top young linebackers.

"It's a fine line," Luginbill said. "You've got to be careful. You can't walk away from too many (five-star recruits). It's just a very delicate line."

ESPN is expected to release its national Top 150 in August. Despite the change in approach, Luginbill expects the `Canes to be well represented on the list. Look for at least four of the seven verbal commitments to appear in the rankings. That's not bad considering the pool consists of at least 2,000 players across the country.
 8 years ago '04        #4934
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UM: Burned by Web hype, recruiters go with gut
By Shandel Richardson | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
June 22, 2009
CORAL GABLES - Recruiting had become simple for the University of Miami football staff.

While counterparts were out scouring the country for the next All-American, the Hurricanes coaches were likely parked in front of a computer with a pad and pen. They surfed Internet recruiting sites in search of talent, almost forgetting their own evaluation in the process.

After following the advice of recruiting gurus helped lead to the program's recent decline, the Hurricanes have returned to trusting themselves when it comes to finding talent. Third-year coach Randy Shannon continues to emphasize the idea of recruiting based on staff judgment instead of a website's rankings.

"That's accurate," UM recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt said. "We spent way too much time recruiting off [Internet] lists and finding these top guys instead of truly evaluating. You can't just go off hearsay or just because Florida, Florida State or Alabama is recruiting him. That doesn't mean a thing."



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Play and Win: Play the Backyard Blitz and you could win $10,000. Hurtt, also the defensive line coach, said the staff realized it was being burned too frequently by recruiting busts. How else to explain a school once considered college football's top NFL factory having just one player — linebacker Spencer Adkins — taken in this year's draft? Although unfair to place all the blame on recruiting failures, it is widely considered the biggest factor in the decline.

"If you go back and you look at each class, I can go down the list and find some guys who were major recruits that never lived up to the billing," Hurtt said.

In the past six years, the Hurricanes signed top-20 players such as quarterback Kyle Wright, receiver Lance Leggett and tackle Reggie Youngblood. All had decent college careers, but never reached the expectations of their "can't-miss prospect" labels.

That's more than can be said about linebacker Willie Williams and running backs James Bryant and Charlie Jones, considered four-star or higher recruits. Williams was the nation's No. 6 recruit in 2004, according to Rivals.com. After unspectacular performances, all three transferred.

ESPN recruiting analyst Tom Luginbill said the Hurricanes were often caught up in the hype machine that occurs in the world of online recruiting. Many websites claim to rank the best players, but Luginbill said the moment coaches start paying attention to the "star system" is when "a program starts walking a cliff."

"In my opinion, you've got to stay true to your own evaluation, your own blueprint," Luginbill said. "Don't worry about what everybody else is saying, but that's a very difficult thing to do. ... What happens is there is so much information out there about guys. Most of it can be untrue. A lot of it is perpetuated by people who are claiming to be recruiting analysts, but don't know if a football is pumped or stuffed."

UM learned the hard way.

Recruiting misfires factored into the Hurricanes going from playing for consecutive national titles in 2002-03 to a 19-19 record the past three seasons. Much of it occurred under coach Larry Coker, who was fired after the 2006 season. The Hurricanes landed several highly rated recruiting classes during his tenure, but even outsiders noticed they were focusing solely on recruiting sites.

"I used to go in the coaches' offices and sometimes they would literally have Rivals.com up on their screen," said Matt Shodell, who covers UM and its recruiting for CaneSport.com. "I won't name the coaches, but they would be writing names down on pieces of paper. I don't know how much film they were looking at."

The Hurricanes have since turned to their eyes as the best evaluators of talent. Recruits now commonly say they have yet to receive a UM scholarship offer because coaches haven't seen film.

Hurtt said the staff also avoids highlight tapes that often appear on recruiting sites. Even those can provide false hope.

"The big difference is we're evaluating game film now," Hurtt said. "A lot of times it was highlight tapes, highlight tapes, highlight tapes. That could be just a big teaser for you. You watch it and all of a sudden people are geeked up. Then you find the actual game tape, and he doesn't know where he's going on the field and things like that. You find out things in the game film."

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Kyle Wright
QB 2003: Rated the No. 5 overall player by Rivals.com, but struggled with inconsistency throughout career


Lance Leggett
WR 2004: A top-20 recruit who never developed into the gamebreaker analysts projected


Willie Williams
LB 2004: The nation's top linebacker recruit couldn't make it through a season before transferring


Ryan Moore
WR 2002: Was considered a five-star recruit, but finished career with just 49 catches


James Bryant
FB 2004: A four-star recruit who could never find a position and was suspended three times before transferring
 8 years ago '04        #4935
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Was player development the issue?

> Posted by Shandel Richardson on June 23, 2009 09:59 AM
Yesterday the Sun Sentinel ran a story discussing UM's recruiting failures the past six years. Recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt talked how the staff focused too much on recruiting services for information instead of their own evaluating.

His comments drew some interesting responses. Most felt he correctly identified the problem for the program's recent downfall, but a few disagreed. The question raised was whether the Hurricanes coaches properly developed talent during those years.

We've visited this subject before when former Sun Sentinel UM beat writer Omar Kelly was critical of the coaching staff during a radio interview last season. After yesterday's article, I received an email from Ed McLean, a longtime sportswriter for the South Dade News Leader.

McLean, who writes a weekly column, said many of those recruits fell victim to a coaching staff that came up short.

"...The biggest issue was what happened to the kids when they got to UM," McLean said. "It's like the coaches weren't coaches anymore. Player development simply didn't exist and several top recruits were wasted. [Quarterback] Kyle Wright worked with two or three offensive coordinators and it's no wonder that he didn't pan out particularly well."

Back in 2007, Wright's high school coach Craig Berman pretty much told me the same thing. We'll never know the real reason for who was at fault during all those years.

The best answer is each party likely had something to do with it.
 8 years ago '04        #4936
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Former `Canes RB Charlie Jones defends `04-05 recruits

> Posted by Shandel Richardson on June 23, 2009 07:14 PM
When Charlie Jones arrived at UM in 2004, he felt everything was going as expected.

Things changed for him, and the rest of the players from the 2004 and 2005 recruiting classes, when the coaching staff began to unravel. In response to those critical of the Hurricanes' recent recruiting woes, Jones said it was difficult to play during those years.

UM fired five a.ssistants after the 2005 season. Then coach Larry Coker was canned in 2006. Since Randy Shannon took over in 2007, there have been four a.ssistants who were fired or left for other jobs. That, Jones said, was too much for any player to handle.

"The guys that came in 2004 and 2005 got mixed up in the whole coaching change," Jones said. "I mean, I'd been through three or four offensive coordinators and (three) running back coaches. You've got to be consistent. You've got to develop some players at some point. I felt like if they would've kept the same coaching staff, a lot of guys would've ended up differently."

Jones said among the downfalls was a decrease in family atmosphere as pressure mounted when wins weren't being produced.

"When I first came to Miami, I think the coaching was fine," said Jones, rated the nation's No. 5 running back while at South Dade High School. "There was no problem with it. We were learning something new everyday .... "They were always preaching family this and family that, but after coach Coker left, it wasn't a family. Everything changed. A lot of guys felt they were screwed over."

Jones transferred to Memphis after the 2007 season, saying he had become tired of all the change. He felt the constant staff movement factored into the struggles of the veteran players. Jones was demoted in the spring of 2007. He started the first three games of 2006 before losing out to Javarris James, a freshman at the time.

"Graig Cooper came to the University of Miami in the spring of 2007, and [the new coaches] put him first on the depth chart the first day of spring practice," Jones said. "Nobody had seen him play. I mean, they had only seen him on film."

Jones said many of the older players felt they were being forced out during Shannon's "cleanse" of the program.

"When coach Shannon came in, he wanted to start all over and he wanted to start from scratch," Jones said. "The guys he recruited, he wanted to build off them. In the process, he screwed over a lot of upperclassmen."

Jones said he felt he could've helped the team in 2008 when James was hurt, leaving the bulk of the late-season load on Cooper. The Hurricanes had to play seldom-used Lee Chambers in the Emerald Bowl. Chambers did respond with a solid game. Jones rushed for 262 yards and six touchdowns last year at Memphis.


"You just can't get a kid off the street [freshmen] and expect them to come in and play against guys that have been in college for three or four years," Jones said. "They kind of put up a f!ght, but in the end, the older guys are going to win and I felt it showed during games."
 8 years ago '04        #4937
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 Playnogames305 said:

Kyle Wright
QB 2003: Rated the No. 5 overall player by Rivals.com, but struggled with inconsistency throughout career


Lance Leggett
WR 2004: A top-20 recruit who never developed into the gamebreaker analysts projected


Willie Williams
LB 2004: The nation's top linebacker recruit couldn't make it through a season before transferring


Ryan Moore
WR 2002: Was considered a five-star recruit, but finished career with just 49 catches


James Bryant
FB 2004: A four-star recruit who could never find a position and was suspended three times before transferring
@this list of bums
 8 years ago '07        #4938
Kinglew88 13 heat pts13
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that list is horrible

ill give willie a pass tho because he was a beast
 8 years ago '04        #4939
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 L-E-Dub b***h said:
that list is horrible

ill give willie a pass tho because he was a beast
a beast at f**kin up....dude accomplished nothing.



and at Charlie Jones...the n*gga did good filling in for T.Moss in 05 but in 06 the n*gga was straight garbage. Dude look like he did no training whatsoever in that off-season..he was slow as molasses and pretty much the catalyst with his got damn fumbles for the Louisville slugging we took that year.

so Charlie Jones f**k you buddy
 8 years ago '05        #4940
Deeangoe 2 heat pts
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thing is kyle wright actually started good...in 05 we were ranked #3 after k!llin vatech then all of a sudden ppl where saying they wanted to see miami and usc at the rose bowl...and then ga tech happend...

ryan moore was good his freshmen yr then he started f**king up...same with legget he had a decent freshmen yr then went downhill


how the f**k do you start good then fail miserably...
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