Looks Like Kobe Gained Some Muscle

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 09-11-2006, 12:21 AM         #101
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Kobe has 3 rings... incase people forgot
 11 years ago '04        #102
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Kobe has 3 rings... incase people forgot
yeh 3 rings wit shaq
then turned c*cky thinking he can do it himself
and now hes finding out hes just another AI, Tmac, Ray Allen,
Garnett = a good player on a sh*tty team that will never get over the hump
 11 years ago '05        #103
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 Javon23 said:
and now hes finding out hes just another AI, Tmac, Ray Allen,
Garnett
= a good player on a sh*tty team that will never get over the hump


 11 years ago '05        #104
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Well, I don't compare Kobe to MJ. Two different players in two different era's. However, Kobe won three rings before Jordan got one - so, it's not like Kobe is running out of time. In fact, some think Kobe is just entering his prime (only being 28).

As for the game. If you watched the first half, he stuck to the gameplan that Phil Jackson wanted. The same formula that they did in games 1-3. He was passing to his teammates, but in this game, they came back to earth and couldn't make a shot. Kobe stuck with the gameplan. You can say whatever you want because hindsight is 20/20. However, if he had taken 1000 shots in the second half, he still would have been hated on. Dude got hated on for taking 30 shots or whatever to get 81 points -- eventhough his team was down by 20 in that game at one point.

I'll just keep saying it. This year they will do much better. They got a good three point shooter (something they definately needed) and if Kwame/Odom can play like they did at the end of the season last year; they will win 50+ games this year. Signature it if you want - it'll look better once the season is over.
 09-11-2006, 12:47 AM         #105
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 Javon23 said:
yeh 3 rings wit shaq
then turned c*cky thinking he can do it himself
and now hes finding out hes just another AI, Tmac, Ray Allen,
Garnett = a good player on a sh*tty team that will never get over the hump

Naw man he carried Shaq for those 3 rings and now Shaq went to wade to get carried again.. Prett much Shaq rode Kobe to 3 titles and a bunch of unwarranted hype
 09-11-2006, 12:52 AM         #106
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Oh yea, god...look at those guns. Almost makes me wanna give a sh*t.
 11 years ago '04        #107
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Naw man he carried Shaq for those 3 rings and now Shaq went to wade to get carried again.. Prett much Shaq rode Kobe to 3 titles and a bunch of unwarranted hype
i been saying this for the longest
shaw is the last true center in the league
subtract kobe and put AI, Ray Allen, Tmac on the laker championship
squads with Shaq = Championship
Miami didn't win just because of Wade, they won because of Wade & Shaq
i guess shaq made it to the finals in orlando
because of Penny Hardaway too huh
 09-11-2006, 11:23 AM         #108
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Naw man he carried Shaq for those 3 rings and now Shaq went to wade to get carried again.. Prett much Shaq rode Kobe to 3 titles and a bunch of unwarranted hype

i hope your being sarcastic ???



you are right ???
 09-11-2006, 11:24 AM         #109
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 Javon23 said:
Miami didn't win just because of Wade, they won because of Wade & Shaq

yeah your right but the diffrence this time.... they won more because of wade then shaq
 09-11-2006, 11:26 AM         #110
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 Javon23 said:
i been saying this for the longest
shaw is the last true center in the league
subtract kobe and put AI, Ray Allen, Tmac on the laker championship
squads with Shaq = Championship
Miami didn't win just because of Wade, they won because of Wade & Shaq
i guess shaq made it to the finals in orlando
because of Penny Hardaway too huh

No I always said if you took off Shaq and you put Duncan, KG,Robinson or even christ put on Rik Smits and that team would have won.. Shaq was such alittle part of that team its not even funny.. Im surprised they didnt trade him after the first year when kobe carried shaq to the title
 11 years ago '04        #111
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 I'm The Dan said:
Well, I don't compare Kobe to MJ. Two different players in two different era's. However, Kobe won three rings before Jordan got one - so, it's not like Kobe is running out of time. In fact, some think Kobe is just entering his prime (only being 28).

As for the game. If you watched the first half, he stuck to the gameplan that Phil Jackson wanted. The same formula that they did in games 1-3. He was passing to his teammates, but in this game, they came back to earth and couldn't make a shot. Kobe stuck with the gameplan. You can say whatever you want because hindsight is 20/20. However, if he had taken 1000 shots in the second half, he still would have been hated on. Dude got hated on for taking 30 shots or whatever to get 81 points -- eventhough his team was down by 20 in that game at one point.

I'll just keep saying it. This year they will do much better. They got a good three point shooter (something they definately needed) and if Kwame/Odom can play like they did at the end of the season last year; they will win 50+ games this year. Signature it if you want - it'll look better once the season is over.
when kobe wins no more rings for the remainder of his career
what will be your excuse then
whats your excuse for the lakers not making the playoffs the next season after shaw left.
whats your reason for the lakers "barely" making the playoffs last season
if kobe is so great like you claim him to be then how come hes not dominating in the post season leading his team to a championship.
for the remainder of his career kobe will just be a regular season player.
i dont give 2 sh*ts if he scores 1000 in a game. he can't do it in the playoffs nor lead his team to a title by himself (No Shaq)

a team wins championships
not one player
kobe k!lled his
Dynasty k!ller


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 11 years ago '06        #112
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i love how a 'kobe's gained muscle' thread turns into an 8 page debate on Kobe vs. _______ .






....u ppl seriously need help
 09-11-2006, 11:29 AM         #113
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^^^^^^ this guy loves kobe's muscles :sick: :sick:
 09-11-2006, 11:34 AM         #114
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The truth is im not sure Shaq is even a top 25 center all time, the way kobe carried him was criminal.. Kobe couldnt do it all, I mean he almsot beat the pistons by himself.. Shaq couldnt do anything he was even out rebounded by Prince.. Acutally im surprised anyone even trade for Shaq after what they say. Shaq=Kobe creation
 11 years ago '04        #115
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 P DEDOS 954 said:
yeah your right but the diffrence this time.... they won more because of wade then shaq
no its not just about scoring
its about how the offense is ran
shaq's presence on the court period
is a pain in da a.ss to other teams
he create's room for everyone else on the court (Wade)
shaq gets doubled majority of the time
 11 years ago '04        #116
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 RakimAllahNY said:
The truth is im not sure Shaq is even a top 25 center all time, the way kobe carried him was criminal.. Kobe couldnt do it all, I mean he almsot beat the pistons by himself.. Shaq couldnt do anything he was even out rebounded by Prince.. Acutally im surprised anyone even trade for Shaq after what they say. Shaq=Kobe creation
no offense but that comment
ask any basketball coach on any level
and they will tell you shaq on any team
is a bonus. hes no one can gard him
and he causes double teams
creating space for others.

sh*t LA could have ben wallace
kobe still aint going no where
 09-11-2006, 11:48 AM         #117
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 P DEDOS 954 said:
^^^^^^ this guy loves kobe's muscles :sick: :sick:


 Javon23 said:
i been saying this for the longest
shaw is the last true center in the league
subtract kobe and put AI, Ray Allen, Tmac on the laker championship
squads with Shaq = Championship
Miami didn't win just because of Wade, they won because of Wade & Shaq
i guess shaq made it to the finals in orlando
because of Penny Hardaway too huh
Exactly. sh*t I said the exact same stuff not too long ago in a past thread...

 fu*ker said:
Shaq+any other great SG to take Kobe's spot on those Laker championship teams=same results, if not better. On the other side of things, you name one guy in the league that could've replaced Shaq on those teams. The answer is nobody. Bottom line, Shaq was irreplaceable on those Laker squads...while there are guys like Wade and Vince and T-Mac (if healthy) that could've been just as good alongside Shaq as Kobe was.


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 11 years ago '04        #118
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 fu*ker said:




Exactly. sh*t I said the exact same stuff not too long ago in a past thread...
yup exactly
if people actually knew the game of basketball then they would understand.
the heart of the game is played in the paint.
sh*t half of kobes shot's come off a screen
realt talk
 09-11-2006, 11:56 AM         #119
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Kobe carried Shaq, before Kobe Shaq got completely 100% murdered by Dream.. The best thing that ever happend to Shaq was Kobe. Too bad Shaq had to be a hater and constantly bi*ch because he was sick of being Robin to kobe's batman..

The truth is Kobe woulda won with any decent center, replace him with Rik Smits,Vlade,Brad Miller even. Shaq=Kobe Creation
 11 years ago '04        #120
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 RakimAllahNY said:
Kobe carried Shaq, before Kobe Shaq got completely 100% murdered by Dream.. The best thing that ever happend to Shaq was Kobe. Too bad Shaq had to be a hater and constantly bi*ch because he was sick of being Robin to kobe's batman..

The truth is Kobe woulda won with any decent center, replace him with Rik Smits,Vlade,Brad Miller even. Shaq=Kobe Creation

kobe was the mold not shaq
kobe was the one bi*chin
shaq was pissed because kobe was not playing a team role
even phil owned kobe

phil is only back cause of his 30 yr old pus*y (wife to be)
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