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 09-01-2006, 09:32 AM         #1
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Crunchy Black Interview And Why He Left 3-6 Mafia
 

 
From AllHiphop.Com:

For Darnell Carlton, March 5, 2006 was supposed to be the payoff for over 15 years of loyalty and dedication. But, as Three-6-Mafia took home the Academy Award for Best Original Song, their performance marked one of the final times the man more commonly known as Crunchy Black would perform with the group. When remaining members Juicy J and DJ Paul resurfaced weeks later on HOT 97’s Summer Jam stage stating that their Oscar statue had replaced Crunchy Black, it merely confirmed the rumors that Memphis’ favorite rap collective was now a two-man operation.

Breakups are usually ugly, and the rap game hardly an exception. Despite claims from both sides that there is no bad blood, accusations of underhanded business practices have left a cloud of controversy surrounding Crunchy’s rationale for leaving the group at the zenith of their popularity.

While lines such as, “N***a I don’t rap anyway, N***a I rob,” have never caused anyone to label Crunchy Black a lyrical a.ssassin, very few people would question his brutal honesty. After years of quietly playing the background and hitting fans with the occasional verse and his trademark “Gangsta' Walk,” Crunchy Black sounds off on his newfound solo status.

AllHipHop.com: Most of us know how you got the nickname Crunchy Black, but who gave it to you?

Crunchy Black: Where I'm from, Scudderfield, which is in North Memphis, me and another dude used to run together. Both of us were dark as hell, and back then, in the projects, you didn’t really call people on the phone. We’d just stand outside each other’s houses and holler for the person we wanted. Me and the other dude’s nicknames were both “Black,” so when someone was standing outside yelling, “Black,” we never knew which one of us it was for and we’d both be standing at our door. One day he said, “God damn it, we gonna' stop all this right here. We’re both black as hell, but your a.ss is crunchy, so I’mma call you Crunchy Black.” After that, people in the hood would holler out, “Crunchy Black,” and it just kind of stuck.

AllHipHop.com: What were you listening to back then?

Crunchy Black: We mostly jammed off of DJ Paul and Juicy J. Back then, they were just DJs and weren’t really rappers. They were actually the two crunkest DJs in Memphis. Whenever they used to get a job to do a party or something, we would just listen to whatever Paul and J had, then there this other DJ named Squeaky. He was jammin’ too.

AllHipHop.com: When we think of the Memphis rap scene today songs like “Triggerman,” “Armed Robbery” and, of course, “Tear Da' Club Up” come to mind. What was it like to be around when those classics were being made?

Crunchy Black: Ahh yeah, “Triggerman.” [8Ball] and [MJG], them some good boys. All that was a fun time.

So during that time, everybody is getting buck, getting crunk. We used to have this thing called, “Last Man Standing.” That’s where you’d try to invent a new dance, even if the s**t was bad. This one dude was doing it, but he was f**kin’ it up. We all knew that he was doing it wrong, but he just kept on dancing. So, I really didn’t invent the “Gangsta’ Walk,” but I was so tough that I became the champ at that s**t.

AllHipHop.com: Would you say that winning the Oscar last year was your highest point?

Crunchy Black: Yeah, but there was a lot that led up to that point. People were always buying our s**t, but when you get that award it exposes you to a whole different set of people so you can sell more records. Paul and Juicy are smart like a motherf**ker, so throughout this whole time dealing with Sony they were doing the right deals.

I think they outsmarted Sony, because it got to a point where they didn’t really need the label and they threatened to leave. That was the whole thing behind Most Known Unknown, ‘cause they was going Gold or still getting good paper no matter how many records we sold based off how the deal was. Now with this record, you see three videos and n***as on 106 & Park, ‘cause [Sony] wanna' put them out there and see how much they can get.

AllHipHop.com: That’s some pretty high praise for your former group members, so it doesn’t seem like a beef thing. What led to you leaving the group?

Crunchy Black: Part of it was that, besides Project Pat, I felt like I was the only real n***a. If you look at Most Known Unknown, that really was most of my s**t. I had made an album called From Me To You: 1 The Hard Way, and they used some of that material for this new album. It’s my ideas, but I’m one whose verses are getting cut on “Stay Fly” and “Poppin’ My Collar.” For me to be down with them n***as for 15, 16 years and be a real n***a, I felt that I deserved better than that. And when I say that, I don’t want people to think that it’s beef or no s**t like that.

A lot of other people had left the group because they didn’t feel like they were getting taken care of as far as the money was concerned. I was tired of my [solo] album getting ignored, so really I was gonna leave before this album even came out, but I stayed for one more year. When it came time to get the record ready, Paul and J come telling me that I need to pay $50,000 for an entertainment lawyer, so I gave them the $50,000. When we get there to have the meeting with the lawyer, everybody’s telling me I have to wait outside.

AllHipHop.com: So all that time your money wasn’t being handled correctly?

Crunchy Black: Yeah, but I’m a real n***a so I just have to charge that one to the game. You can take my songs and each get $150,000 off of it, but I can’t see no royalties? When I got home, I hired my own lawyer and he told me that for $50,000 he’d represent me for life! To look over a contract is only about $75 and for an entertainment lawyer, [$2,000] is really too much to be paying, let alone [$50,000] -you feel what I’m saying?

AllHipHop.com: Was that when you decided to leave?

Crunchy Black: Nah, the last straw was that whole time that we touring, I’m having to come out of my pocket and get my own hotel rooms and rent cars and s**t. We had got pulled over ‘cause the n***a that was driving was doing some crazy s**t. Since we were by the border of Mexico the police searched the car, they had the dogs and everything. Now I was sleep this whole time before they searched the car, and I had some weed on me but they never found anything. All of a sudden, when we get to the venue Paul is talking about I almost got us locked up. How? The cop ain’t pull us over because he smelled weed, he pulled us over because the n***a who y’all had driving was f**kin’ up. So after that they come sending one of my boys to tell me that I have to find my own way to the next show; they didn’t even come tell me themselves and we’re supposed to have been tight for 15 years. They’re the ones with the tour bus, and I’m coming out of pocket to get myself to the venue and getting there before them! Sony’s sending them money, but I’m checking myself into the hotel every time and paying for my own room.

People had left the group ‘cause of their money not being done right and other stuff too, but if it’s only three n***as in the group there’s no excuse not to pay a n***a. So while we were in New York, I called Sony and told them that I was leaving the group. That next day I got on a plane and left. And it ain’t no beef, I’m not about to make a record talking about I want to k!ll Paul and J or no s**t like that. I don’t appreciate that s**t they did as far as my money and taking my songs, but I learned a lot about the business from them. If you’re a fan of them, stay a fan, don’t jump over on my bandwagon ‘cause of what happened between me and them.

AllHipHop.com: There were originally quite a few members of Three-6-Mafia. Now that you’re a soloist, do you talk with them?

Crunchy Black: I’ve got my crew called The Real Hard Hitters. LaChat tried to do some f**k s**t and come out with a crew called The Hard Hitters, but that’s just some copycat s**t. If you look on my website which is
[pic - click to view]

 http://www.myspace.com/cr .. ealhardhitters then you can tell the difference. On our CDs, it looks just like the Tennessee [license plate] and the logo is in the corner.

I had Gangsta Boo down in the studio at my house one time, but she was rapping some old Three-6 stuff. It ain’t nothing personal, but this is something new so we got to leave all of that old stuff behind. If we’re going to do something you’ve got to come with some new raps and s**t, don’t nobody want to hear that old s**t. And Lord Infamous was just lost, lost in the sauce on them drugs, so I can’t do anything with him.

All this time I had my real n***as from back home telling me, “Come on Crunchy, open up a studio or something so we don’t have to be out here selling this s**t!” I’m down to help anyone who’s down to help themselves. I told them that once they got their act together we could do something. These are my same three boys who’ve been down with me this whole time, Pharaoh “The Prince of The City,” Explosive and Buck 4 Luck.

AllHipHop.com: Are you still affiliated with Sony or are you independent?

Crunchy Black: I’ve been talking with Ruthless Records and Ruff Ryders. I’m leaning toward Ruff Ryders because when I sat down and talked with them, they just kept it real with me. Plus, it makes more sense to go with someone who can get me out to that area where they might not be that familiar with me.

AllHipHop.com: Any last words?

Crunchy Black: We’re coming to every city. If you need studio time and you’re trying to do something positive and get some money in your pocket we’re going to see you. When I came home I didn’t know what to do. I just prayed that if God would help me then I’d put this good word out. We’ll help you get that paper, but if you’re on that bulls**t, we can’t do anything for you. End.


Crunchy Black as a Ruff Ryder. Thats funny.

44 comments for "Crunchy Black Interview And Why He Left 3-6 Mafia"

 09-01-2006, 09:33 AM         #2
wabber  OP
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BOO HOO!!!

If you think 3 6 mafia is worse off now that its only paul, J, and Pat then your an idiot.
 11 years ago '05        #3
LVuittonDon4EVA 8 heat pts
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Oh well Paul and J are the 2 who make Three 6 Mafia n e ways.
 09-01-2006, 01:25 PM         #4
mr.hades  OP
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lord infamous lost in the sauce?
I cant believe that....

And that interview was quite pleasant to read, which is weird considering crunchy black has no grammar skills what so ever... how was he able to answer all of those questions completely?


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 09-01-2006, 01:50 PM         #5
allabout$  OP
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i understand that crunchy been wit them for so many years, and if it's true what he said. then thats fu*ked up...

but on the real...


crunchy black leaving three 6 mafia is possibly the greatest decision made in hip-hop...

he wasn't nice anyways...

it's surprising to see him talk normally. i used to think he's a vegetable
 09-01-2006, 01:51 PM         #6
Snyder  OP
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lol im glad this was a written out interview, if you've heard how this ni99a talks hahaha.
 11 years ago '04        #7
NoLedge18720 5 heat pts
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crunchy never been nice anyways...heads wouldnt even know him without three six. Good luck on that solo album when cats would fast forward through your sh*t in the three six tracks. Dudes only gonna sell like 15 copies and they all gonna be to relatives
 11 years ago '04        #8
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i dont see how Crunchy Black put up with all that and then leave the group and still respect them
 11 years ago '04        #9
kniccalodeon 
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Man. Lord Infamous is lost and turned out? SMH.
 11 years ago '05        #10
Hyphy707 
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3-6 mafia always been garbage. "Poppin' my collar?" come on now. That's something from the bay, but of course, everyone wanna steal that and make a song. We've been poppin collars since 1993, not 2006.
 09-01-2006, 05:16 PM         #11
SkoolYard Bully  OP
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did he say Ruthless records?!?!?!
 09-01-2006, 05:17 PM         #12
bAd_BoY_KillaRz  OP
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project pat will be k!llin' the new album
 11 years ago '05        #13
Adamsville4real 
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this n*gga stupid aint no way in hell i woulda paid 4 nothing on a tour but food and spend 50 stacks on a lawyer and you not in the room when they have a meeting you lost in the sauce yo got damn self 2.
 11 years ago '04        #14
x Tha Arkitek x 59 heat pts59
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 Hyphy707 said:
3-6 mafia always been garbage. "Poppin' my collar?" come on now. That's something from the bay, but of course, everyone wanna steal that and make a song. We've been poppin collars since 1993, not 2006.

...buddy i don't think he sayin he came up with that word/phrase, but tha idea of tha song so quit tryina brag bout tha bay area that no 1 cares about


and ye crunch black on sum abc rhymes but he just gotta sum what crunk delivery that appaels ova paul & j beats...paul & j ain't lyrical eitha..them dudes don't even know how to stay on topic...all that got is beats, creativity & delivery...eitha way they'll neva really blow on a mainstream level, if there were they would have with 'Tear Da Club Up '97' or "Sippin On Sum Sizzurp'...all they do is have one song that gets them a lil attention every no & then..and this time they lettin that lil grammy go 2 there head
 11 years ago '05        #15
TCV|m 17 heat pts17
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^^^ fu*k you homo...mark a.ss pawn...go mudwrestle with some insurgents you fu*kboy...no one cares about the bay? no one cares about YOU..and it wasnt a grammy you fu*kign moron...STOP RAMBLING NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR OPINION........GO GET BLOWN UP BY A ROADSIDE bomb YOU STORMTROOPER PIECE OF sh*t


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 11 years ago '05        #16
Adamsville4real 
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 x Tha Arkitek x said:
eitha way they'll neva really blow on a mainstream level, if there were they would have with 'Tear Da Club Up '97' or "Sippin On Sum Sizzurp'...all they do is have one song that gets them a lil attention every no & then..and this time they lettin that lil grammy go 2 there head
3-6 know they aint gone go mainstream and they said it a while ago cuz they rap about doing drugs and k!lling n*ggas all day long. Its only like a couple of songs off all they cd's that can go on the radio cuz you cant make songs like put yo d*ck in her mouth, weak a.ss bi*ch, tongue ring and half on a sack radio friendly
 11 years ago '04        #17
C.R.I.P. 3 heat pts
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Three 6 been fu*kin up since they let go of playa fly...and then they let go of T-Rock.....somethin is seriously wrong with them boyz..sh*t i wouldnt even have let Koopsta go.
 09-01-2006, 07:06 PM         #18
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 TCV said:
^^^ fu*k you homo...mark a.ss pawn...go mudwrestle with some insurgents you fu*kboy...no one cares about the bay? no one cares about YOU..and it wasnt a grammy you fu*kign moron...STOP RAMBLING NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR OPINION........GO GET BLOWN UP BY A ROADSIDE bomb YOU STORMTROOPER PIECE OF sh*t
stfu u ignorant a**hole....at least hes over there f!ghting for u while ur at ur house on ur lazy a.ss not doing sh*t...ANYONE IN THE MILITARY>>>YOUR LIFE period.
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 TCV said:
^^^ fu*k you homo...mark a.ss pawn...go mudwrestle with some insurgents you fu*kboy...no one cares about the bay? no one cares about YOU..and it wasnt a grammy you fu*kign moron...STOP RAMBLING NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR OPINION........GO GET BLOWN UP BY A ROADSIDE bomb YOU STORMTROOPER PIECE OF sh*t
...congratulations!, you are one step closer to earning your bachelors in eThuggin

PS: thanks for the eHate
 11 years ago '06        #20
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three 6 used to be a group of six with a lot more rappers in there crew. when all these dudes leavin the group or label, its funny paul & juicy the only originals, and pat and infamous are their brothers
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