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 12 years ago '04        #151
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damn...I'm glad this article doesn't apply to me...I moved out the hood...

My family isn't rich but we're not broke either...I'm living good..

It takes hard work....

 10-22-2006, 01:04 PM         #152
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If you ain't got a million dollars, you're obviously either lazy or unmotivated.

I'd love to see some real world advice on how to guarnete someone a plan on how to move out of government housing. Real concrete examples, not just "work hard and save money".

 10-22-2006, 01:50 PM         #153
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 CubanLinks said
blah blah blah dont wanna read it shut up ... whoever is 18 and poor ... decided to be that way
word because by 18 you are supposed to be rich or in the middle class even if u came from nothing and had nobodt giving u anything. if theres no major businesses in your area then where u working to make money?

 10-22-2006, 02:02 PM         #154
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 nawtyxes said
Thats a fu*king excuse..get a grip on reality. Why you gotta have a TV? Read the fu*king paper..I understand maybe for the older 50+ generation, but kids this day and age have no excuse

go to school
get an education
get a fu*king job
save your fu*king money

however this is what happens
go to school
socialize, play sports, make friends

get a job
so they can buy ring tones, nikes and sh*t

save your fu*king money
yeah save it long enough to buy more depreciative sh*t

stop with the excuses and man the fu*k up!
and what about the people that man the fu*k up and are still there. u know the peopl who fathers aint there and they mother on crack and they have little brothers and sisters to feed. people aint trying to hire n*ggaz in the hood especially young n*ggaz. what else is there for them to do. i understand going to school is the best route that one should go but thats the long term. if you are 14-15 and you hungry now and your family hungry now u supposed to wait 3-4 more years to take care of them? fu*k that u gotta do what u gotta do. its closed minded idiots like you that make it this way. instead of trying to understand and then help u want to criticize. and what makes it worst as a country we run to take care of other nations issues before tending to our own

 10-22-2006, 02:04 PM         #155
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 DragOnRR2003 said
thats cause people in the ghetto spend more money on drugs they rather get high then spend money for a bus pass to work. also they worry more about their cars and clothes
what the fu*k are you talking about this is the most ignorant and rascist shyt i head today. not everyone in the ghetto is on drugs u dumb c*nt

 10-22-2006, 02:04 PM         #156
MOSESCANOVA  OP
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 mszomola said
so i dont understand ... ? 40 a month for tv ? ... just dont get your tv that way ... and chill till you save up enough ...
i can agree with that

 10-22-2006, 02:11 PM         #157
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 CubanLinks said
see thats where it all goes back to if ur 18 and over and ur poor its your decision ... if your stealing a gallon of milk to feed your family ... why did you have a kid if you couldnt afford it in the first place ... so then you get thousands of dumbasses living in this country with that mentality always complaining about how they live in the ghetto and how the situation sucks... and they resort to doing the dumb sh*t they do (WELL DUMBASS WHY DONT U WORK FOR A LIVIN SAVE UP MONEY AND GET OUT OF THERE INSTEAD OF SITTIN ON THE CORNER OF YOUR HOUSE WITH A CAMCORDER AND YOUR "HOMEBOYS" MAKIN A SMACK DVD FREESTYLE) im sorry but in the USA there is no excuse for living in poverty.
its a lose lose situation....most people (from the hood or not) do not plan pregnancies these days its a fact sh*t happens. now if we keep them then we causing this drama on ourselves if we abort them then we have to deal with people that is prolife telling us that we are not responsible to have and raise a family.....no matter what we do we get looked at like we are nothiing more then scum.....look at americas history we are based on the rising of the underdog and the majority of people don't even have faith in that underdog until they actually suceed

 10-22-2006, 02:14 PM         #158
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 BigL139 said
The poor people fo this country bring it down even more.....To want the rich to pay higher taxes for no reason except there rich is the type of thinking that makes some poor f*g**t have nothing.....Anyone on this board who thinks the impoverished of this country pay even close to the same portion of their income to taxes is living in a fu*kin dream world.......Poor people ruin everything and its a damn shame
word poor people ruin everything.....your an idiot and i bet u think your better then a lot of people when you are not

 10-22-2006, 03:15 PM         #159
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opinions is like a**holes er'body has them and most of 'em if not all stinks.....facts cannot be opinionated, the struggle is real and being a minority makes the struggle no easier...being a minority and from the ghetto makes it twice as hard..but that is still not a reason to succeed.....er'body quick to call themselves a hustla so walk like u talk.....anotha point is people want to cross the finish line without running the race it doesn't work that way(at least for most of us in this community)no pain no gain....oh yeah if u was spoon fed all your life, had a bank account from birth, went to state of art schools w/state of the art facilities this does not pertain to you and to make a NEGATIVE comment is foolish...just because your favorite rapper is "supposedly" from the hood(can't believe erthang you hear) believe me he or she doesn't speak for everyone in it....people need to stop judging others by the way they look, or walk, talk, cuz we all different....just cuz somebody isn't familiar in your world maybe u need to come out and join the rest of ours.GET MONEY...STOP bi*chIN cuz you waistin time and you sound like womb.


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 10-22-2006, 05:32 PM         #160
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 CubanLinks said
blah blah blah dont wanna read it shut up ... whoever is 18 and poor ... decided to be that way
typical white rich-boy suburb answere.

so answer this.

If you were 18, you lived in New Orleans... then katrina came lost your home, friends, job, and all everything you owned(besides the stuff you took when you evacuated) And now your working two jobs to pay bills and survive. Basically starting all over again and poor.

would that have been your choice? did you have any control over it? is it because you "decided" to be that way?..

Shut the fu*k up. You're a clown.

 12 years ago '06        #161
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 nawtyxes said
Thats a fu*king excuse..get a grip on reality. Why you gotta have a TV? Read the fu*king paper..I understand maybe for the older 50+ generation, but kids this day and age have no excuse

go to school
get an education
get a fu*king job
save your fu*king money

however this is what happens
go to school
socialize, play sports, make friends

get a job
so they can buy ring tones, nikes and sh*t

save your fu*king money
yeah save it long enough to buy more depreciative sh*t

stop with the excuses and man the fu*k up!

actually going 2 school is hard as hell when ur poor. u might b able 2 get some type of scholarship but if its not a full ride then your not going....

 12 years ago '04        #162
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minimum wage isn't enough for 1 person to survive. and those things this article list proves why poor ppl get poorer. yea it's dumb to get caller id when u can't afford the regular phone bill but the point is that u can't afford the phone, not even for an emergency. and if u miss a bill u owe plus interest which of course a poor person can not pay. interest is what's holding ppl back. but i don't like how ppl glorify the ghetto though b/c it's not anywhere u wanna grow up.

 12 years ago '05        #163
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That article is stupid. People live in the ghetto because they can't afford to pay the cost of living in a middle class neighborhood. Paying a little bit more for groceries, renting appliances, and public transportation is nothing compared to paying mortgage on a $500,000 house and a car payment plus neccessities like food and utilities. People in housing projects pay less than $100 a month for rent! Paying a little bit more for groceries and renting appliances isn't sh*t. The objective of the projects is to give people a place to live so they can get out of the ghetto and live a better life. Unfortunately that rarely happens.

 12 years ago '04        #164
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loans and scholarships aint gonna pay for food, clothes, even school supplies. and ppl act like it's easy to get a job. it's not even easy to get a job at burger king.

 12 years ago '04        #165
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 RamazedAGAIN said
actually you can by taking loans and then paying themm off once you get a job. then youll have really good credit. and also by saving money just what that guy that you quoted said.
For some poor people, getting loans is impossible because of the due process of getting a loan. You have to have co-signers with good credit for some loans, and there is a maximum loan amount.

 12 years ago '04        #166
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 Poloi3eai2 said
That article is stupid. People live in the ghetto because they can't afford to pay the cost of living in a middle class neighborhood. Paying a little bit more for groceries, renting appliances, and public transportation is nothing compared to paying mortgage on a $500,000 house and a car payment plus neccessities like food and utilities. People in housing projects pay less than $100 a month for rent! Paying a little bit more for groceries and renting appliances isn't sh*t. The objective of the projects is to give people a place to live so they can get out of the ghetto and live a better life. Unfortunately that rarely happens.
You obviously can't comprehend the article and most likely never attended college or a business class. What's happening in this situation is similar to a regressive tax structure, one which taxes people who make less at higher rates. Sales taxes are one example. So that you understand the concept, I'll use some numbers to explain. It works like this, lets say that the sales tax rate is 30% for everyone. Say i'm poor and only make 10 dollars a year and buy 5 dollars worth of goods. Lets a.ssume that this $5 is enough to get buy and live a fairly comfortable lifestyle. This means I will pay 1.5 dollars in sales tax. This is 15% of my yearly income. Now lets keep the above facts the same except now i'm a rich person and I make 100 dollars per year. But, to make this realistic, lets a.ssume the rich person will complement their extra income by living lavishly and spends $10 in order to live very comfortable. This same 30% tax rate on $10.00 worth of gods now equates to only $3.00 or 3% of my yearly income.

Conclusion:
The poor person is taxed at 15% of yearly income while the rich mutherfu*ker only 3% and lives more lavishly. The same 1.50 of tax means much more to a poor person than a rich person, despite how much they pay for rent or anything else. You contradict yourself when you say a rich person pays $500,000 rent vs a poor person paying $100. Because they can afford it you idiot!!!!!

Hey buddy, it makes you look even worse when you try to sound smart and it backfires and makes you look dumb.


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 12 years ago '05        #167
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YOU can't comprehend the article. I go to college and major business admin. The writer is saying that people living in the ghetto pay more because grocery stores, banks and other businesses are reluctant to do business in the ghetto. Also that they pay more to rent appliances and public transportation because they can't afford to pay it all off upfront in cash. What YOU ARE talking about is sales tax. It affects poor people more only because they earn less. That's basic math. The sales tax rate is no different between rich and poor. The writer failed to mention that alot people in the ghetto also receive welfare checks, food stamps, and live in low rent government housing. That should be adequate a.ssistance from the government to help people in the ghetto pay for nessecities. Unfortunately many people just take advantge of government a.ssistance and dont do sh*t.

 12 years ago '04        #168
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i grew up in compton, graduated high school, never got "jumped" into a gang, never fu*ked around with drugs, attended college on loans and grants and moved out of compton. Three of my other cousins my age graduated college aswell and never did the whole gang sh*t either. Those saying you have no choice in life are the ones with the mentality that they can NOT and will not stand up for their beliefs and for what they want in life. How is it that my pop having only gone as far as third grade in school, in mexico! be able to support his family of seven living in compton. Those of you who live in the area know houses in compton are 400k no bullsh*t. It's life decisions that you make the decide the outcome of your life, dont blame the goverment, dont blame anyone but yourself for your situation. Althought it might have been harder for you to do something then the rich white kid you decided NOT to get on the bus and go to the better school, you decided not to pick up a book and read. Thats why your still in the same situation you might have started in or fell into.

As for the article it is definately true what it's relaying but it's also talking about some things that are easily avoidable. I mean a tv fu*k outta here we lived a full year without it and it was probably the best time of my young life. Groceries though I mean that can be bullsh*t 2 depends on your area tho, cus im sure theres a store a bus ride away that might save you 20 bucks, instead of going around the corner to the local shop. Then again theres area's where its not at all that way. I think the corporate giants are losing money not placing their mega food store in the middle of the ghetto. Then again if they did local business would complain about going broke...

Motherfu*kers just need positive people around them to overcome their sh*tty circumstances. If your surrounded with people who have no hope then thats all it's ever gonna be..if you step up and do it diffrently then the drug pushing bs, others might follow.

 12 years ago '06        #169
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 11-17-2006, 06:46 PM         #170
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98% of the people in this forum will NEVER have a cumulative career earnings of 1 million dollars ever.....so cmon now...by the way...im sure everyone who is bashing "poor people" lives in the burbs...or are white...eh

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