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 07-22-2006, 12:25 PM         #81
Killakane  OP
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 ajmac10 said:
Anyone can make it in life if they want it enough (there are plenty of living examples), but some people can't make it naturally in our country. There has to be a lower class in a capitalistic society - that is just a reality.
:applause: Real Talk
 07-22-2006, 03:13 PM         #82
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 Greetings said:
That's what I'm saying also...

These dudes are obviously inherently racist and/or classist and they have the nerve to be on a hip hop board talking like they know poor Blacks.
too many suburban white boys think they know but they have no fu*kin clue
 07-22-2006, 05:41 PM         #83
I-Moc  OP
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Its funny how foreigners always find a way to thrive in this country even when they have LESS oppurtunities than the people who lived here, have family here, etc. My parents came from Nigeria with nothing, couldn't even afford to bring my older brother with them when they came (he came like 10 years later). Yes there is a struggle, but you gotta have your priorities straight. My parents did, and after 15 years in America they finally moved out the hood. So don't tell me about the struggle, I've lived thru it, and still live thru it but not as harshly. Get on your grind and get off ur whine...nobody to blame but urself. If a homeless n*gga can become a millionaire thru hard work, then there is no excuse...seriously.
 07-22-2006, 05:43 PM         #84
I-Moc  OP
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 XoStikoX said:
As a person who was raised poor and worked himself into the middle class I have a few tips. Education is a major factor as well as home training. A parent who raises a child to believe society is to blame should be shot. You can not raise a success story with excuses. Keep your child away from the ghetto even if you live there. My mom wouldn't let us play no further than the front gate. It seemed like prison at the time but it was eventual freedom. Freedom from a low thinking way of life and it's surroundings. As a result, I wasn't the coolest kid around but I was least likely to wind up in some b.s. An individual must make something out of nothing in order to succeed in todays way of life. It's possible but it takes patience and a never give up attitude. If you're 18 and poor, that's your parents fault. If you're 18, poor, and ignorant, grab a mirror and blame that dumbass in it. Let's get it!

^^^Same here, true story:applause:
 07-22-2006, 05:47 PM         #85
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interesting read, props
 07-22-2006, 05:55 PM         #86
kokaine  OP
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I-MOc same here man...... its just my dad made the correct decisions im making now ... instead of fu*king around staying back in my country.... he strived a couple of years to get a degree and move here .... and im doing the same as him ........ NOT BECUASE HE DID, but because i have a self conscience that drives me to move away from lower standards (no offense to anyone at all) ...... people "In the hood" fu*king have things im wishing for.... I HAVE NO CELLPHONE, NO IPOD, NO VIDEO GAMES <--- i chose to stay away form those things cuz im saving major money..... im in the verge of getting a job that pays $60000 ( CO-OP..... counltess days of no sleep deprivation, having to stay in to study for a exam to help me pass) starting salary as an engineer..... AND I STUGGLED TO MAKE THOSE ENDS MEET....... i barely had any money to pay through schooling .... so instead of asking my parents for bullsh*t i asked them for things i really needed...............

the thing is were talking about poor people in AMERICA! ...... not anywhere fu*king else......... so there is no excuse for making bullsh*t excuses about how hard life is ....... BECAUSE its those adults that have a childish mentality who are needing money ....... those trailer trash white folks, black folks, hispanics ETC........

IF YOU DONT COMMIT CRIME ..... YOU CAN WORK.....
IF U BREAK THE LAW..... YOUR fu*kED
DONT BREAK THE LAW.... DONT SMOKE DRUGS ON A REGULAR BASIS
TALK CORRECTLY..... most people in america talk worse than people in other countries speaking english ...

take music for what its worth ...... not something to live by and make money by being a drug dealer ........... all those stupid shortcut ways ..........

its the >education< im guaranteeing that people lack for the bad decicions in their life......

from simple calculations on budgeting how to live ..... to their lack of understanding how to read things getting fu*ked over in contracts etc.......
and not knowing that paying 300 for a fu*king rim is a luxary not a need......


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 07-22-2006, 06:46 PM         #87
radiculust  OP
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Look, You cant change sumones mind who is already made! These "cats" think they know how it is to get out the ghetto and this its soo easy. HAHA!! What struggle have u been and what REAL ghetto have u lived in?? Just like how yo mama fu*ked a n*gga and had yo a.ss cuz she thought he loved her happens in the ghetto! MY mama neva did drugs, Got her college degree, and we still int he ghetto. You have never had your lights off! Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?! My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto! So befo you can tell sumone what to do, live it! It aint easy at allll livin this life. And its hard trying to find a job where jobs are hard to get! HOW THE fu*k can you save and save to get a beter place if your mom or dad works at mcdonalds?? And dont be like o thats her choice, when who the fu*k in they right mind would want to live that dirty n hard life! blood comin out your pours cuz u stress on how you gon eat that night? Or how you gon pay the rent! You need a roof over your head n electricity! rent for us is 400 n electricity 250! How the fu*k u supose to pay that workin hard with get paid 7.50 or 8 a hour and still having to pay for water and gas and food in the house! Muthafu*ka get yo mind right befo you speak on the got damn ghetto. Hell, bein a single parent is hard as a bi*ch my dawg lookin at how my mama did it amaze me! Im still alive and kickin and i aint on no got damn drugs or all da bulshyt! White people do da same got damn shyt blacks do but yall get a easier right away cuz it looks dirty when we do it.
 07-22-2006, 06:47 PM         #88
radiculust  OP
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tHATS WHY n*ggaZ RESORT TO SELLIN DRUGS!!
 11 years ago '04        #89
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 radiculust said:
Look, You cant change sumones mind who is already made! These "cats" think they know how it is to get out the ghetto and this its soo easy. HAHA!! What struggle have u been and what REAL ghetto have u lived in?? Just like how yo mama fu*ked a n*gga and had yo a.ss cuz she thought he loved her happens in the ghetto! MY mama neva did drugs, Got her college degree, and we still int he ghetto. You have never had your lights off! Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?! My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto! So befo you can tell sumone what to do, live it! It aint easy at allll livin this life. And its hard trying to find a job where jobs are hard to get! HOW THE fu*k can you save and save to get a beter place if your mom or dad works at mcdonalds?? And dont be like o thats her choice, when who the fu*k in they right mind would want to live that dirty n hard life! blood comin out your pours cuz u stress on how you gon eat that night? Or how you gon pay the rent! You need a roof over your head n electricity! rent for us is 400 n electricity 250! How the fu*k u supose to pay that workin hard with get paid 7.50 or 8 a hour and still having to pay for water and gas and food in the house! Muthafu*ka get yo mind right befo you speak on the got damn ghetto. Hell, bein a single parent is hard as a bi*ch my dawg lookin at how my mama did it amaze me! Im still alive and kickin and i aint on no got damn drugs or all da bulshyt! White people do da same got damn shyt blacks do but yall get a easier right away cuz it looks dirty when we do it.

i agree wit everything u said...read my post i think its on like the 2nd page, i grew up bein the whiteboy around the block, every hood got 1 of us,lol...they dont know sh*t on here...its disgusting how they say "dont have unprotected s3x" i agree but condoms pop sometimes....& sh*t is an accident sometimes, at least they aint have abortions
 07-22-2006, 07:45 PM         #90
macadon83  OP
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I feel the article. I never thought about this before. But it's a definite problem. Not something that will change in the near future though.
 11 years ago '04        #91
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 QTPlayer said:
Most people are the products of their own environments.

If you live in a poor community, and attend a "poor" or "failing" school, etc. then how are you going to know that there is more to life than what is on the television, etc. Most poor people have different value systems than most middle class and well-off people. No offense to anyone on here, but most people in the ghetto, especially blacks are more concerned about whether they have the right shoes (Jordans, Air Ones), right clothes ( Overpriced Designer crap from Demo), right phone, right car and for the females whether or not their hair and nails are done. They are mostly concerned with appearances and how they look. This can be especially seen during the spring during prom season. Prom is the prime example of people spending money beyond their means. I mean why spend $500 for a prom dress when you can get one for $100 especially if you know you can not afford it. Why spend money going to get your hair done when you can do it yourself. Why are you spending money on a television, when you can put more money to buying books, or a computer, something to educate yourself better with. Most people in the ghetto tolerate certain types of businesses because they themselves have not been educated to know that there are better ways of doing things, like opening a bank account rather than going to the payday loan store. And if these things are available to them, how are they suppose to know and choose. Plain and simple, the point I am trying to make is that MOST people in the ghetto are concerned with appearances and need to focus more on educating themselves about the opportunities available to them.



 Tattered_Hoody said:
Mainstream Hip Hop is designed to destroy youth and trap them into a mindset of materialism, s3xism, hatred, and selfishness.

These rappers are told what to rap about, their records are not promoted until it conforms, and corporations advertise through their tracks (alcholic beverages, automobile companies, etc.)

Just look who run the companies that promote it.


Mos Def's "The r*pe Over" is the last "mainstream" hip hop song I listen to.



Two good points were made. A lot of times people are a product of their environment. When people are struggling it's easy to point the finger at the person and say it;s his/her fault for making bad decision but a lot of times it’s because they don't know any better are there's nobody around to teach them better until it's too late. Also I feel hip hop needs to do a better job of educating people about priorities instead of brainwashing then into thinking life is all about money, jewelry, women and cars.
 11 years ago '06        #92
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 CubanLinks said:
blah blah blah dont wanna read it shut up ... whoever is 18 and poor ... decided to be that way
to call that an ignorant comment is an understatement. There's a whole big world out there, time to expand your mind a little.
 07-22-2006, 08:52 PM         #93
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^ NardVa yeah but one is stupid to follow his/her life on what rappers say ... see thats why education is needed to tell you things which are superficial need to be forgotten about.

you have to have some sort of discipline and self motivation ...... not some bum a.ss singer who probably fu*ked his life up aswell to dictate your life......
 07-22-2006, 08:56 PM         #94
I-Moc  OP
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fu*k all that, my dad started work in a diaper company cleaning diapers (remember when they were cloth and not disposables?), my mom worked at a fast food restuarant, went to school, and juggled me around. 3 years later she did all that and juggled my kid sister too! we've been on welfare, lived with rats, roaches, flies, and maggots (and no it wasn't in Africa). Unless you have a mental handicap, physical disability, I don't wanna hear it. Don't tell me about someone who has a degree in bullsh*t. If you went to a community college and tried to find work in the 80s it is plausible. But you can't even get a job now with a B.S. from a major school. So if you went to a community college and think you did your part, you're dead wrong. Community college is only the beginning in todays standards.

Props to radiculust and mom dukes for keep ya'll surviving...but what ya'll need cable for? We didn't have cable in my house till like my senior year in high school!!!! 2 years after we moved out the hood, lol. The internet seems like a necessity now a days, but its free at the library. Thats an extra $50-$100 in yo pocket right there.


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 11 years ago '05        #95
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CHUUUUUUUUCH :applause:

To piggy back off of this...

"Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?!"

What do you need cable for......hmmm $75 a month

No home phone but i bet you have a cell phone..is it basic service? Or do you have ringtone, internet, text messages, mp3 capabilities, etc. hmmmmm either $45 or almost $100 a month

I do believe you need the internet connection so I won't say sh*t about that right now.......

Who has their "thumb" on you?

"My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto!"

And your point is..... my school didnt give sh*t about me either, my principal was a known clan's man...and his last words to me upon getting my diploma was "keepin on running son, keep on running"...as he smirked" My parent(s) made less than 25k combined with three kids. I grew up n a trailer...got scorned as a kid..but i used my brains and athlete prowess to get me to where I am. Went to an Ivy League Institution, could my parents afford it HELL fu*k NO, do the Ivy's give athletic scholarships, NOPE, did I pass up free rides to UGA and GaTech, HELL YEA becasue of the opportunity that this school would present me I choice the Ivy. I struggled in college, took out crazy loans so my family could do for themselfs and my younger siblings, I man'd up. I'm 27 now and make 6 figs, own my own home, drive an 06 bimmer, lil brother graduated from college and now lives in NC, and has a good job, and lil sister graduated from college, and is now going to med school. This is all from the southern equivalent of the urban ghetto. Excuses are for the birds.......Read John McWorters Winning the RaceBeyond the Crisis in Black America

So your ex, what did she major in.....something feasible or a bullsh*t "Parks and Recreation degree" or majored in "Party and Bullsh*t"

Question for you, is why after the education did she go back to teh ghetto, did she or you for that matter think of relocating? Complacient? I left high school in georgia to attend college in Providence, and moved to DC for my job. There are no job opportunities where I came from so i moved here, and now I can send cash home to my peeps. The problem with the ghetto is that it creates a generational "security blanket"

So what do you use the internet for.....to talk on boxden.....download music and live the fantasy hustler life....watch pr0n or movies....or do you use it to do work....research....search for a job....research for a job.....hmmmmm you tell me playa....

Don't respond with no emotional bi*ch sh*t either. You give me concrete example on how you are being held down.

sh*t is understood that
a. we will not get reprarations
b. you have to work twice as hard to prove yourself
c. our own people will pull you down before the "man" does

with that understood what is your excuse. I'm waiting.....................
b.
 11 years ago '05        #96
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 radiculust said:
tHATS WHY n*ggaZ RESORT TO SELLIN DRUGS!!

exactly n*ggaz


Tear down our own community for personal gain

Stupid motherfu*ker
 11 years ago '04        #97
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because alot of ish not offered in the hood they have to go outside to get it.
 11 years ago '05        #98
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 bigb5399 said:
And that’s the train of thought that keeps the banks, and stores out of the areas that need it. The areas that need a super-market rather than a gas station, that needs a bank rather than 10 check cashing/payday loan places. ppl aren’t poor bc they want to be, in 90% of cases its bc they have no other choice then to live check to check, and scrap by on a continuous basis. when they have no choice but to buy the bulk of there necessities in life from 7-11, it dose nothing but perpetuate the cycle....just think, if things were cheaper on a regular basis, from the start, do u think that the shoplifting rate would have risen to the out of control state its in? Humans are like animals in that they will do what they need to do to survive.

"If I can’t afford that gallon of milk, or that box of cereal, I will do what I have to do to get it, and if that means steal it, so be it, and if u get in the way then sorry bout ur luck. But my family will be feed"

That’s a common thing to go thru a lot of ppls minds on a regular basis all across America. but since we are programmed to survive, by any means necessary, that mentality will never change, there is always gonna be theft, bc that’s how some ppl get by, and it works, but it keeps the big stores out and the prices in the small ones stay high......its a never ending cycle.

Preach Homie!!! Im Happy U Put him in his place because I was about 2 put homie in his place. U can tell who's real by the things they say.
 11 years ago '05        #99
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Spoken Like A true Spolied Brat Who has Never Had 2 Struggle. Ur making it clear 2 the whole world your an narrow minded ignoramous. Everyone is not afforded the same opprotunities. I was fortunate 2 make it out but 4 a lot of people in the ghetto they only See, crime & different forms of entertainment as a way out. Its Sad But welcome 2 america. How about livig in the hood 4 a week with your mindstate u could'nt 24 hours. Chump.
 11 years ago '04        #100
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i was out today buying grocieries and a bumb sitting outside asked for spare money and i refused ... he then made a comment like .. must be nice to have money for groceries and told him .. yeah it is ... i worked all fu*king week for these groceries and you havent done anything but sit outside here asking for a free ride .....



and im sorry if you people get offended by that , but its the motherfu*king truth and you have to learn to deal with it .. cause no one got a free ride and no one gets a free ride .. you earn everything by putting in your effort .. you need to make your own decisions and your own success... dont go running up the next man asking for a free bee like you fu*king deserve it cause you dont fu*king deserve anything ....

i have yet to see a guy sit out side say , sir i have a terrible life i would like to turn around can you help me back into society ? i will prove my self worth by applying myself and earning your respect...

i have never heard any of that sh*t , infact when i offer to buy them some food they fu*king REFUSE that sh*t and insist the money is fine , well fu*k YOU CHARLIE fu*k YOURSELF and dont ask me for sh*t ...
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