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 12 years ago '04        #76
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A lot people in this thread appear to have had a pretty decent life and probably never really had to struggle to make ends meet. Everybody knows life isn't fair and if you're dealt a bad hand take advantage of what opportunities you do get to make your situation better, whatever it may be. The problem is a few people on this board don't realize how hard it is to over come poverty when you start from the bottom coming into this world. America is a land of opportunity where anybody can make it, but some people on this board don't realize when you come from the bottom there is no room for error or wrong decision making in life that could set you back. (Example have a baby, go rent to own a TV instead of saving to buy, smoke some weed, sell some drugs, not better your education, blowing money on non necessities)

If you make every correct decision in life, yes you might just make it out, but that's huge burden on anybody. A person shouldn't have to be perfect just to make it out the ghetto. Some of you people on this board probably made some bad decision that were stupid like spend your last 400 on an Xbox 360 instead of paying your bills, but because of the position you're in you're not trapped in an ongoing cycle of taking out payday loans every two weeks for 500 dollars that you have to pay back with interest of 75 dollars.


People on this board want to say do this and do that, but I think the point of the article people are missing is there is an unfair system in place that causes people in poorer areas to pay more over several months for the same services that are cheaper to an area with more income, which is a burden on the wallets of people who are trying to do the right thing and make it. Everybody knows there are people who put themselves in a situation and either donít care or donít make an effort to better themselves, but still point fingers at everybody. We donít want to focus on them people we want to focus on people who are trying to do something, but can't because they're stuck in this cycle of disadvantage.

 07-22-2006, 11:36 AM         #77
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 Dos-effect said
HOW THE fu*k DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO GO THROUGH? IM TIRED OF THIS ARGUMENT THAT IF YOUR POOR ITS CAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO BE. THATS BULLsh*t CAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO BE POOR NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE POOR, SO MANY POST TALK ABOUT THE SAME sh*t REFERRING TO POOR BLACKS BASCIALLY BEING TO LAZY AND DEPENDABLE ON EVERYONE ELSE TO ACHIEVE SUCESS LIKE YOU f*gS REALLY KNOW THESE PEOPLE...AND ITS FUNNY CAUSE ITS TAKES SOMEONE WHO REALLY HAS KNOWN POVERTY TO APPRECIATE WHAT POOR PEOPLE GO THROUGH.....SO LITTLE RICH PRICK WHOSE PARENTS TOOK CARE OF EVERY SINGLE WORRY FROM GOOD SCHOOLING TO IN SOME CASES PROVIDING GOOD PAYING JOBS GET ON THIS BOARD AND TALK THIS BULLsh*t ABOUT STRUGGLES AND WHOSE IS WORTHY.........THATS THE MOST REDUNDANT sh*t IVE EVER HEARD....

THE THING I FIND MOST DISTURBING ABOUT THIS THREAD IS YOU bi*chES DONT RESPECT BLACK PEOPLE.........AND THATS IRRITATING BEYOND BELIEF WE DONT DESERVE HAPPINESS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A CERTAIN AREA IN THE CITY YOU SAY DONT BUY ELECTRONICS AND GOOD SHOES IF YOUR POOR CAUSE THAT WILL HELP YOU STAY POOR........BUT BE REAL IF THEY DIDNT BUY THAT sh*t THE WOULD STILL BE POOR CAUSE YOUR FAKE a.ssES WOULD NOT GIVE THEM A DIME......AND IF YOU SAW THEM LOOKING BUMMY U WOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THEM FOR NOT HAVING THE DECENCY TO BUY DECENT CLOTHESE BASICALLY ITS A LOOSE LOOSE SITUATION AND ITS DISTURBING BECAUSE I HONESTLY FEEL NONE OF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE AT ALL PEOPLE ARE POOR BECAUSE THE TRAP THAT IS SET UP GETS THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN........SOMEONE SAID ITS NOT THE GOVERMENTS FAULT TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND DECENT HOUSING TO AMERICANS(I BEG TO fu*kING DIFFER) POOR PEOPLE PAY MORE TAXES THEN PEOPLE WHO ARE BETTER OFF BECAUSE WE GET TAXED FOR EVERYTHING WHICH MEANS WE PAY TAXES TOO WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING IN OUR SCHOOLS AS SURBURBIAN SCHOOLS GET WHICH MEANS BETTER QAULIFIED TEACHERS AND LESSONS AND LEARNING......THAT IS THE GOVERMENTS JOB TO PROVIDE GOOD EDUCATION fu*k WHAT YOUR TALKING. TEACHERS SPEND MORE TIME WITH MOST KIDS IN THIS COUNTRY THEN MOST PARENTS DO ITS A GIVEN POOR PARENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEND THIER KIDS TO SCHOOL AND FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL RECIEVE THE NOT ONLY GOOD EDUCATION BUT THE BEST EDUCATION BUT WE ALL KNOW THATS NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THE FUNDS THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN ARE NOT.....INSTEAD THEY GO TO BUILDING MORE SCHOOLS FOR SURBURBIA WHILE INNER CITY SCHOOLS DONT HARDLY GET sh*t.......SO BASICALLY OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO BUILDING UP YOUR SCHOOLS NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND YOU HERB


I RESENT THAT ARGUMENT THAT WE ARE POOR BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO USE DRUGS AND DRINK.......WHO THE fu*k ARE YOU? DONT YOU KNOW HOW MANY RICH SPOILED LITTLE WHITE KIDS GET STRUNG OUT ON DRUGS...AND LETS BE CLEAR IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WEED OR BEER IM TALKNG ABOUT METH, COKE, COTIN,SHROOMS, ACID, ALL THAT sh*t THAT MOST BLACKS DONT EVEN HAVE ACESS TO.......YALL KNOW WHAT THE fu*k IM TALKING ABOUT......i WENT TO COLLEGE I SAW SO MANY WHITE DRUG ADDICTS THAT IT WAS RIDICOLOUS BUT GUESS WHAT THEY STILL HAD NICE CARS AND DIDNT HAVE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING......WHICH MEANS MOMMY AND DADDY SUPPORTED THEM SO WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC IN THAT STATEMENT


.KOKAINE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT IS SUCESSFUL IS NOT EVEN PARTIALLY ACCURATE.......HARD WORK GETS YOU FAR.......BUT ITS NOT THE ANSWER TO SOLVING POVERTY FOR ANYONE.......NEITHER IS GOING TO SCHOOL.......THATS YOUR WHOLE MINDFRAME GO TO SCHOOL THATS WHAT YOU KEEP PREACHING......I WENT TO SCHOOL AND I GRADUATED.....BUT I WENT TO A URBAN CITY SCHOOL.......LET ME TELL YOU THIS......I ONCE VISTED A SCHOOL OUT IN THE BURBS AND THEY HAD A COLLEGE FAIR WHERE RECRUITERS CAME TO TALK TO STUDENTS ABOUT FURTHERING EDUCATION AND GETTING LOANS AND FIN AID.........THAT WAS COOL......DO YOU KNOW MY SCHOOL WE HAD 1 PERSON COME.......JUST 1 PERSON.....AND IT WASNT FOR SOME IVY LEAUGE SCHOOL......OR EVEN A COMMUNTIY COLLEGE.....HELL IT WASNT EVEN FOR TRADE SCHOOL.....DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR? THE fu*kING ARMY.........THATS THE ONLY DAMN RECRUITER THAT CAME TO MY SCHOOL SO DONT TELL ME ABOUT KIDS GOING TO COLLEGE BECAUSE NOT ALL SCHOOLS SUPPORT THAT......THAT SCHOOL I VISTED HAD PROGRAMS THAT REVOLVED AROUND HELPING THIER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THAT NEXT LEVEL..WHICH MEANS THEY HAD THE FUNDING.....MY SCHOOL DIDNT HAVE THAT INTREST BECAUSE THEY DIDNT.....GET ME.........BE REAL WITH IT
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 07-22-2006, 11:57 AM         #78
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 Dos-effect said
HOW THE fu*k DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO GO THROUGH? IM TIRED OF THIS ARGUMENT THAT IF YOUR POOR ITS CAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO BE. THATS BULLsh*t CAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO BE POOR NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE POOR, SO MANY POST TALK ABOUT THE SAME sh*t REFERRING TO POOR BLACKS BASCIALLY BEING TO LAZY AND DEPENDABLE ON EVERYONE ELSE TO ACHIEVE SUCESS LIKE YOU f*gS REALLY KNOW THESE PEOPLE...AND ITS FUNNY CAUSE ITS TAKES SOMEONE WHO REALLY HAS KNOWN POVERTY TO APPRECIATE WHAT POOR PEOPLE GO THROUGH.....SO LITTLE RICH PRICK WHOSE PARENTS TOOK CARE OF EVERY SINGLE WORRY FROM GOOD SCHOOLING TO IN SOME CASES PROVIDING GOOD PAYING JOBS GET ON THIS BOARD AND TALK THIS BULLsh*t ABOUT STRUGGLES AND WHOSE IS WORTHY.........THATS THE MOST REDUNDANT sh*t IVE EVER HEARD....

THE THING I FIND MOST DISTURBING ABOUT THIS THREAD IS YOU bi*chES DONT RESPECT BLACK PEOPLE.........AND THATS IRRITATING BEYOND BELIEF WE DONT DESERVE HAPPINESS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A CERTAIN AREA IN THE CITY YOU SAY DONT BUY ELECTRONICS AND GOOD SHOES IF YOUR POOR CAUSE THAT WILL HELP YOU STAY POOR........BUT BE REAL IF THEY DIDNT BUY THAT sh*t THE WOULD STILL BE POOR CAUSE YOUR FAKE a.ssES WOULD NOT GIVE THEM A DIME......AND IF YOU SAW THEM LOOKING BUMMY U WOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THEM FOR NOT HAVING THE DECENCY TO BUY DECENT CLOTHESE BASICALLY ITS A LOOSE LOOSE SITUATION AND ITS DISTURBING BECAUSE I HONESTLY FEEL NONE OF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANYONE AT ALL PEOPLE ARE POOR BECAUSE THE TRAP THAT IS SET UP GETS THEM TIME AND TIME AGAIN........SOMEONE SAID ITS NOT THE GOVERMENTS FAULT TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND DECENT HOUSING TO AMERICANS(I BEG TO fu*kING DIFFER) POOR PEOPLE PAY MORE TAXES THEN PEOPLE WHO ARE BETTER OFF BECAUSE WE GET TAXED FOR EVERYTHING WHICH MEANS WE PAY TAXES TOO WHICH MEANS WE SHOULD GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING IN OUR SCHOOLS AS SURBURBIAN SCHOOLS GET WHICH MEANS BETTER QAULIFIED TEACHERS AND LESSONS AND LEARNING......THAT IS THE GOVERMENTS JOB TO PROVIDE GOOD EDUCATION fu*k WHAT YOUR TALKING. TEACHERS SPEND MORE TIME WITH MOST KIDS IN THIS COUNTRY THEN MOST PARENTS DO ITS A GIVEN POOR PARENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEND THIER KIDS TO SCHOOL AND FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL RECIEVE THE NOT ONLY GOOD EDUCATION BUT THE BEST EDUCATION BUT WE ALL KNOW THATS NOT THE CASE BECAUSE THE FUNDS THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN ARE NOT.....INSTEAD THEY GO TO BUILDING MORE SCHOOLS FOR SURBURBIA WHILE INNER CITY SCHOOLS DONT HARDLY GET sh*t.......SO BASICALLY OUR TAX DOLLARS GO TO BUILDING UP YOUR SCHOOLS NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND YOU HERB


I RESENT THAT ARGUMENT THAT WE ARE POOR BECAUSE WE CHOOSE TO USE DRUGS AND DRINK.......WHO THE fu*k ARE YOU? DONT YOU KNOW HOW MANY RICH SPOILED LITTLE WHITE KIDS GET STRUNG OUT ON DRUGS...AND LETS BE CLEAR IM NOT TALKING ABOUT WEED OR BEER IM TALKNG ABOUT METH, COKE, COTIN,SHROOMS, ACID, ALL THAT sh*t THAT MOST BLACKS DONT EVEN HAVE ACESS TO.......YALL KNOW WHAT THE fu*k IM TALKING ABOUT......i WENT TO COLLEGE I SAW SO MANY WHITE DRUG ADDICTS THAT IT WAS RIDICOLOUS BUT GUESS WHAT THEY STILL HAD NICE CARS AND DIDNT HAVE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING......WHICH MEANS MOMMY AND DADDY SUPPORTED THEM SO WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC IN THAT STATEMENT


.KOKAINE YOUR IDEA OF WHAT IS SUCESSFUL IS NOT EVEN PARTIALLY ACCURATE.......HARD WORK GETS YOU FAR.......BUT ITS NOT THE ANSWER TO SOLVING POVERTY FOR ANYONE.......NEITHER IS GOING TO SCHOOL.......THATS YOUR WHOLE MINDFRAME GO TO SCHOOL THATS WHAT YOU KEEP PREACHING......I WENT TO SCHOOL AND I GRADUATED.....BUT I WENT TO A URBAN CITY SCHOOL.......LET ME TELL YOU THIS......I ONCE VISTED A SCHOOL OUT IN THE BURBS AND THEY HAD A COLLEGE FAIR WHERE RECRUITERS CAME TO TALK TO STUDENTS ABOUT FURTHERING EDUCATION AND GETTING LOANS AND FIN AID.........THAT WAS COOL......DO YOU KNOW MY SCHOOL WE HAD 1 PERSON COME.......JUST 1 PERSON.....AND IT WASNT FOR SOME IVY LEAUGE SCHOOL......OR EVEN A COMMUNTIY COLLEGE.....HELL IT WASNT EVEN FOR TRADE SCHOOL.....DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR? THE fu*kING ARMY.........THATS THE ONLY DAMN RECRUITER THAT CAME TO MY SCHOOL SO DONT TELL ME ABOUT KIDS GOING TO COLLEGE BECAUSE NOT ALL SCHOOLS SUPPORT THAT......THAT SCHOOL I VISTED HAD PROGRAMS THAT REVOLVED AROUND HELPING THIER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THAT NEXT LEVEL..WHICH MEANS THEY HAD THE FUNDING.....MY SCHOOL DIDNT HAVE THAT INTREST BECAUSE THEY DIDNT.....GET ME.........BE REAL WITH IT
That's what I'm saying also...

These dudes are obviously inherently racist and/or classist and they have the nerve to be on a hip hop board talking like they know poor Blacks.

 12 years ago '04        #79
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yeah thats pretty much true

 12 years ago '04        #80
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As a person who was raised poor and worked himself into the middle class I have a few tips. Education is a major factor as well as home training. A parent who raises a child to believe society is to blame should be shot. You can not raise a success story with excuses. Keep your child away from the ghetto even if you live there. My mom wouldn't let us play no further than the front gate. It seemed like prison at the time but it was eventual freedom. Freedom from a low thinking way of life and it's surroundings. As a result, I wasn't the coolest kid around but I was least likely to wind up in some b.s. An individual must make something out of nothing in order to succeed in todays way of life. It's possible but it takes patience and a never give up attitude. If you're 18 and poor, that's your parents fault. If you're 18, poor, and ignorant, grab a mirror and blame that dumbass in it. Let's get it!

 07-22-2006, 12:25 PM         #81
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 ajmac10 said
Anyone can make it in life if they want it enough (there are plenty of living examples), but some people can't make it naturally in our country. There has to be a lower class in a capitalistic society - that is just a reality.
:applause: Real Talk

 07-22-2006, 03:13 PM         #82
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 Greetings said
That's what I'm saying also...

These dudes are obviously inherently racist and/or classist and they have the nerve to be on a hip hop board talking like they know poor Blacks.
too many suburban white boys think they know but they have no fu*kin clue

 07-22-2006, 05:41 PM         #83
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Its funny how foreigners always find a way to thrive in this country even when they have LESS oppurtunities than the people who lived here, have family here, etc. My parents came from Nigeria with nothing, couldn't even afford to bring my older brother with them when they came (he came like 10 years later). Yes there is a struggle, but you gotta have your priorities straight. My parents did, and after 15 years in America they finally moved out the hood. So don't tell me about the struggle, I've lived thru it, and still live thru it but not as harshly. Get on your grind and get off ur whine...nobody to blame but urself. If a homeless n*gga can become a millionaire thru hard work, then there is no excuse...seriously.

 07-22-2006, 05:43 PM         #84
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 XoStikoX said
As a person who was raised poor and worked himself into the middle class I have a few tips. Education is a major factor as well as home training. A parent who raises a child to believe society is to blame should be shot. You can not raise a success story with excuses. Keep your child away from the ghetto even if you live there. My mom wouldn't let us play no further than the front gate. It seemed like prison at the time but it was eventual freedom. Freedom from a low thinking way of life and it's surroundings. As a result, I wasn't the coolest kid around but I was least likely to wind up in some b.s. An individual must make something out of nothing in order to succeed in todays way of life. It's possible but it takes patience and a never give up attitude. If you're 18 and poor, that's your parents fault. If you're 18, poor, and ignorant, grab a mirror and blame that dumbass in it. Let's get it!

^^^Same here, true story:applause:

 07-22-2006, 05:47 PM         #85
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interesting read, props

 07-22-2006, 05:55 PM         #86
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I-MOc same here man...... its just my dad made the correct decisions im making now ... instead of fu*king around staying back in my country.... he strived a couple of years to get a degree and move here .... and im doing the same as him ........ NOT BECUASE HE DID, but because i have a self conscience that drives me to move away from lower standards (no offense to anyone at all) ...... people "In the hood" fu*king have things im wishing for.... I HAVE NO CELLPHONE, NO IPOD, NO VIDEO GAMES <--- i chose to stay away form those things cuz im saving major money..... im in the verge of getting a job that pays $60000 ( CO-OP..... counltess days of no sleep deprivation, having to stay in to study for a exam to help me pass) starting salary as an engineer..... AND I STUGGLED TO MAKE THOSE ENDS MEET....... i barely had any money to pay through schooling .... so instead of asking my parents for bullsh*t i asked them for things i really needed...............

the thing is were talking about poor people in AMERICA! ...... not anywhere fu*king else......... so there is no excuse for making bullsh*t excuses about how hard life is ....... BECAUSE its those adults that have a childish mentality who are needing money ....... those trailer trash white folks, black folks, hispanics ETC........

IF YOU DONT COMMIT CRIME ..... YOU CAN WORK.....
IF U BREAK THE LAW..... YOUR fu*kED
DONT BREAK THE LAW.... DONT SMOKE DRUGS ON A REGULAR BASIS
TALK CORRECTLY..... most people in america talk worse than people in other countries speaking english ...

take music for what its worth ...... not something to live by and make money by being a drug dealer ........... all those stupid shortcut ways ..........

its the >education< im guaranteeing that people lack for the bad decicions in their life......

from simple calculations on budgeting how to live ..... to their lack of understanding how to read things getting fu*ked over in contracts etc.......
and not knowing that paying 300 for a fu*king rim is a luxary not a need......


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 07-22-2006, 06:46 PM         #87
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Look, You cant change sumones mind who is already made! These "cats" think they know how it is to get out the ghetto and this its soo easy. HAHA!! What struggle have u been and what REAL ghetto have u lived in?? Just like how yo mama fu*ked a n*gga and had yo a.ss cuz she thought he loved her happens in the ghetto! MY mama neva did drugs, Got her college degree, and we still int he ghetto. You have never had your lights off! Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?! My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto! So befo you can tell sumone what to do, live it! It aint easy at allll livin this life. And its hard trying to find a job where jobs are hard to get! HOW THE fu*k can you save and save to get a beter place if your mom or dad works at mcdonalds?? And dont be like o thats her choice, when who the fu*k in they right mind would want to live that dirty n hard life! blood comin out your pours cuz u stress on how you gon eat that night? Or how you gon pay the rent! You need a roof over your head n electricity! rent for us is 400 n electricity 250! How the fu*k u supose to pay that workin hard with get paid 7.50 or 8 a hour and still having to pay for water and gas and food in the house! Muthafu*ka get yo mind right befo you speak on the got damn ghetto. Hell, bein a single parent is hard as a bi*ch my dawg lookin at how my mama did it amaze me! Im still alive and kickin and i aint on no got damn drugs or all da bulshyt! White people do da same got damn shyt blacks do but yall get a easier right away cuz it looks dirty when we do it.

 07-22-2006, 06:47 PM         #88
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tHATS WHY n*ggaZ RESORT TO SELLIN DRUGS!!

 12 years ago '04        #89
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 radiculust said
Look, You cant change sumones mind who is already made! These "cats" think they know how it is to get out the ghetto and this its soo easy. HAHA!! What struggle have u been and what REAL ghetto have u lived in?? Just like how yo mama fu*ked a n*gga and had yo a.ss cuz she thought he loved her happens in the ghetto! MY mama neva did drugs, Got her college degree, and we still int he ghetto. You have never had your lights off! Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?! My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto! So befo you can tell sumone what to do, live it! It aint easy at allll livin this life. And its hard trying to find a job where jobs are hard to get! HOW THE fu*k can you save and save to get a beter place if your mom or dad works at mcdonalds?? And dont be like o thats her choice, when who the fu*k in they right mind would want to live that dirty n hard life! blood comin out your pours cuz u stress on how you gon eat that night? Or how you gon pay the rent! You need a roof over your head n electricity! rent for us is 400 n electricity 250! How the fu*k u supose to pay that workin hard with get paid 7.50 or 8 a hour and still having to pay for water and gas and food in the house! Muthafu*ka get yo mind right befo you speak on the got damn ghetto. Hell, bein a single parent is hard as a bi*ch my dawg lookin at how my mama did it amaze me! Im still alive and kickin and i aint on no got damn drugs or all da bulshyt! White people do da same got damn shyt blacks do but yall get a easier right away cuz it looks dirty when we do it.

i agree wit everything u said...read my post i think its on like the 2nd page, i grew up bein the whiteboy around the block, every hood got 1 of us,lol...they dont know sh*t on here...its disgusting how they say "dont have unprotected s3x" i agree but condoms pop sometimes....& sh*t is an accident sometimes, at least they aint have abortions

 07-22-2006, 07:45 PM         #90
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I feel the article. I never thought about this before. But it's a definite problem. Not something that will change in the near future though.

 12 years ago '04        #91
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 QTPlayer said
Most people are the products of their own environments.

If you live in a poor community, and attend a "poor" or "failing" school, etc. then how are you going to know that there is more to life than what is on the television, etc. Most poor people have different value systems than most middle class and well-off people. No offense to anyone on here, but most people in the ghetto, especially blacks are more concerned about whether they have the right shoes (Jordans, Air Ones), right clothes ( Overpriced Designer crap from Demo), right phone, right car and for the females whether or not their hair and nails are done. They are mostly concerned with appearances and how they look. This can be especially seen during the spring during prom season. Prom is the prime example of people spending money beyond their means. I mean why spend $500 for a prom dress when you can get one for $100 especially if you know you can not afford it. Why spend money going to get your hair done when you can do it yourself. Why are you spending money on a television, when you can put more money to buying books, or a computer, something to educate yourself better with. Most people in the ghetto tolerate certain types of businesses because they themselves have not been educated to know that there are better ways of doing things, like opening a bank account rather than going to the payday loan store. And if these things are available to them, how are they suppose to know and choose. Plain and simple, the point I am trying to make is that MOST people in the ghetto are concerned with appearances and need to focus more on educating themselves about the opportunities available to them.



 Tattered_Hoody said
Mainstream Hip Hop is designed to destroy youth and trap them into a mindset of materialism, s3xism, hatred, and selfishness.

These rappers are told what to rap about, their records are not promoted until it conforms, and corporations advertise through their tracks (alcholic beverages, automobile companies, etc.)

Just look who run the companies that promote it.


Mos Def's "The r*pe Over" is the last "mainstream" hip hop song I listen to.



Two good points were made. A lot of times people are a product of their environment. When people are struggling it's easy to point the finger at the person and say it;s his/her fault for making bad decision but a lot of times itís because they don't know any better are there's nobody around to teach them better until it's too late. Also I feel hip hop needs to do a better job of educating people about priorities instead of brainwashing then into thinking life is all about money, jewelry, women and cars.

 12 years ago '06        #92
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 CubanLinks said
blah blah blah dont wanna read it shut up ... whoever is 18 and poor ... decided to be that way
to call that an ignorant comment is an understatement. There's a whole big world out there, time to expand your mind a little.

 07-22-2006, 08:52 PM         #93
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^ NardVa yeah but one is stupid to follow his/her life on what rappers say ... see thats why education is needed to tell you things which are superficial need to be forgotten about.

you have to have some sort of discipline and self motivation ...... not some bum a.ss singer who probably fu*ked his life up aswell to dictate your life......

 07-22-2006, 08:56 PM         #94
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fu*k all that, my dad started work in a diaper company cleaning diapers (remember when they were cloth and not disposables?), my mom worked at a fast food restuarant, went to school, and juggled me around. 3 years later she did all that and juggled my kid sister too! we've been on welfare, lived with rats, roaches, flies, and maggots (and no it wasn't in Africa). Unless you have a mental handicap, physical disability, I don't wanna hear it. Don't tell me about someone who has a degree in bullsh*t. If you went to a community college and tried to find work in the 80s it is plausible. But you can't even get a job now with a B.S. from a major school. So if you went to a community college and think you did your part, you're dead wrong. Community college is only the beginning in todays standards.

Props to radiculust and mom dukes for keep ya'll surviving...but what ya'll need cable for? We didn't have cable in my house till like my senior year in high school!!!! 2 years after we moved out the hood, lol. The internet seems like a necessity now a days, but its free at the library. Thats an extra $50-$100 in yo pocket right there.


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 12 years ago '05        #95
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CHUUUUUUUUCH :applause:

To piggy back off of this...

"Hell our Phone has been off for bout 2 years cuz we cant afford it! I work n pay for cable, and internet n pay half of th rent cuz she cant do it all her self. Befo you jump to mind thinkin oh get your education, u are wrong. How the fu*k can you strive to greatness when sumone has the thumb on you holding you down tellin u NO!?!"

What do you need cable for......hmmm $75 a month

No home phone but i bet you have a cell phone..is it basic service? Or do you have ringtone, internet, text messages, mp3 capabilities, etc. hmmmmm either $45 or almost $100 a month

I do believe you need the internet connection so I won't say sh*t about that right now.......

Who has their "thumb" on you?

"My school doest give 2 shyts bout blacks! MY ex was in all honest class, no baby, finished college, and still in the got damn gheto!"

And your point is..... my school didnt give sh*t about me either, my principal was a known clan's man...and his last words to me upon getting my diploma was "keepin on running son, keep on running"...as he smirked" My parent(s) made less than 25k combined with three kids. I grew up n a trailer...got scorned as a kid..but i used my brains and athlete prowess to get me to where I am. Went to an Ivy League Institution, could my parents afford it HELL fu*k NO, do the Ivy's give athletic scholarships, NOPE, did I pass up free rides to UGA and GaTech, HELL YEA becasue of the opportunity that this school would present me I choice the Ivy. I struggled in college, took out crazy loans so my family could do for themselfs and my younger siblings, I man'd up. I'm 27 now and make 6 figs, own my own home, drive an 06 bimmer, lil brother graduated from college and now lives in NC, and has a good job, and lil sister graduated from college, and is now going to med school. This is all from the southern equivalent of the urban ghetto. Excuses are for the birds.......Read John McWorters Winning the RaceBeyond the Crisis in Black America

So your ex, what did she major in.....something feasible or a bullsh*t "Parks and Recreation degree" or majored in "Party and Bullsh*t"

Question for you, is why after the education did she go back to teh ghetto, did she or you for that matter think of relocating? Complacient? I left high school in georgia to attend college in Providence, and moved to DC for my job. There are no job opportunities where I came from so i moved here, and now I can send cash home to my peeps. The problem with the ghetto is that it creates a generational "security blanket"

So what do you use the internet for.....to talk on boxden.....download music and live the fantasy hustler life....watch pr0n or movies....or do you use it to do work....research....search for a job....research for a job.....hmmmmm you tell me playa....

Don't respond with no emotional bi*ch sh*t either. You give me concrete example on how you are being held down.

sh*t is understood that
a. we will not get reprarations
b. you have to work twice as hard to prove yourself
c. our own people will pull you down before the "man" does

with that understood what is your excuse. I'm waiting.....................
b.

 12 years ago '05        #96
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 radiculust said
tHATS WHY n*ggaZ RESORT TO SELLIN DRUGS!!

exactly n*ggaz


Tear down our own community for personal gain

Stupid motherfu*ker

 12 years ago '04        #97
coolhandluc 
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because alot of ish not offered in the hood they have to go outside to get it.

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And thatís the train of thought that keeps the banks, and stores out of the areas that need it. The areas that need a super-market rather than a gas station, that needs a bank rather than 10 check cashing/payday loan places. ppl arenít poor bc they want to be, in 90% of cases its bc they have no other choice then to live check to check, and scrap by on a continuous basis. when they have no choice but to buy the bulk of there necessities in life from 7-11, it dose nothing but perpetuate the cycle....just think, if things were cheaper on a regular basis, from the start, do u think that the shoplifting rate would have risen to the out of control state its in? Humans are like animals in that they will do what they need to do to survive.

"If I canít afford that gallon of milk, or that box of cereal, I will do what I have to do to get it, and if that means steal it, so be it, and if u get in the way then sorry bout ur luck. But my family will be feed"

Thatís a common thing to go thru a lot of ppls minds on a regular basis all across America. but since we are programmed to survive, by any means necessary, that mentality will never change, there is always gonna be theft, bc thatís how some ppl get by, and it works, but it keeps the big stores out and the prices in the small ones stay high......its a never ending cycle.

Preach Homie!!! Im Happy U Put him in his place because I was about 2 put homie in his place. U can tell who's real by the things they say.

 12 years ago '05        #99
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Spoken Like A true Spolied Brat Who has Never Had 2 Struggle. Ur making it clear 2 the whole world your an narrow minded ignoramous. Everyone is not afforded the same opprotunities. I was fortunate 2 make it out but 4 a lot of people in the ghetto they only See, crime & different forms of entertainment as a way out. Its Sad But welcome 2 america. How about livig in the hood 4 a week with your mindstate u could'nt 24 hours. Chump.

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i was out today buying grocieries and a bumb sitting outside asked for spare money and i refused ... he then made a comment like .. must be nice to have money for groceries and told him .. yeah it is ... i worked all fu*king week for these groceries and you havent done anything but sit outside here asking for a free ride .....



and im sorry if you people get offended by that , but its the motherfu*king truth and you have to learn to deal with it .. cause no one got a free ride and no one gets a free ride .. you earn everything by putting in your effort .. you need to make your own decisions and your own success... dont go running up the next man asking for a free bee like you fu*king deserve it cause you dont fu*king deserve anything ....

i have yet to see a guy sit out side say , sir i have a terrible life i would like to turn around can you help me back into society ? i will prove my self worth by applying myself and earning your respect...

i have never heard any of that sh*t , infact when i offer to buy them some food they fu*king REFUSE that sh*t and insist the money is fine , well fu*k YOU CHARLIE fu*k YOURSELF and dont ask me for sh*t ...

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