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 07-18-2006, 02:02 PM         #126
Not2BMessedWit  OP
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 Tattered_Hoody said
I have spent thousands of dollars printing materials, burning DVDs, etc.
that is hilarious. do you have a job, or are you spending your mom and dad's money on this campaign? There always guys like you handing out conspiracy DVD's at Harvard Square in Cambridge. Most of them work at B.Good Burgers during the day. I'm just saying.

 07-18-2006, 02:06 PM         #127
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 Not2BMessedWit said
that is hilarious. do you have a job, or are you spending your mom and dad's money on this campaign? There always guys like you handing out conspiracy DVD's at Harvard Square in Cambridge. Most of them work at B.Good Burgers during the day. I'm just saying.

No ignorant one, I have my own business and do IT work for a University in the largest computer facility in the nation. Let's compare credentials then if you want to have a fu*king d*cksize competition.

Or you can wake the fu*k up and realize that there's real sh*t going on beyond what you see on CNN or FOXNEWS.

fu*k what you are saying. You are no help to your country with that kind of talk.

 07-18-2006, 02:08 PM         #128
Tattered_Hoody  OP
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This is the kind of "EDUCATED RESPONSE" I GET from Harvard Man Not2bMessedWit:

From a PM conversation:

Re: Since I am a riot....

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Originally Posted by Tattered_Hoody
Would you care to debate me on the issue?


ya man definately. Meet me in Antarctica in 3 weeks, and we'll debate. See ya there!

^^^^^

That's all the opposition to REALITY has. Laughs, insults, and nonsense, combined with Ignorance.

 07-18-2006, 02:12 PM         #129
Not2BMessedWit  OP
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so you're a computer geek? How does that make you an a.sset to anyone? You can keep calling me names but honestly that doesn't make your argument any stronger.

 07-18-2006, 02:14 PM         #130
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 Not2BMessedWit said
so you're a computer geek? How does that make you an a.sset to anyone? You can keep calling me names but honestly that doesn't make your argument any stronger.
Calling someone an IT geek, fool


Whats this you are using to access the internet?

 12 years ago '05        #131
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 Tattered_Hoody said
Pakistan's ISI has close ties to the CIA

The head of the ISI orders a wire of $100,000 to "alleged lead hijacker" Mohammad Atta, just weeks before 9/11

Weeks before 9/11, Graham and Goss are in Pakistan meeting with these guys.

On 9/11, they are having Breakfast with the man who ordered the wire transfer.

Pakistan is not mentioned in the 9/11 commission report, nor is the wiring of money.

Pakistan bribes the commissioners and other officials so that they are not in the report.

Why?

Because if the ISI is implicated in 911, and the ISI is a cooperative group of the CIA (which it is, just like Al Qaeda means "the database" of mujahadeen f!ghters trained to f!ght against Russia in Afghanistan)....

then that means the 911 Commission would've had to INVESTIGATE THE CIA for 9/11!!!


Here's a fairly interesting movie called "Who k!lled John O'Neill" that uses the stereotypical "Conspiracy Theorist Nut" (which you seem to imply I am) that deals with this information and others.

John O'Neill was a former FBI Counter Terrorism EXPERT. He quit becuase his investigations into terrorists were blocked by "Big Oil Interests"

So he took a new job, in Security, at the World Trade Center.

He died on 9/11. His first Day on the job.



Before watching that movie, here's a short overview of FBI officials who have tried to come forward with information, but have been gagged (or k!lled)...




So when you say no one has come forward.... that is false. People have tried, but just like the NSA spying, they have been gag ordered.

And a bunch of people have spoken out (former CIA analysts, former Bush administration official, the "Father of Reaganomics", german defense minister, etc...)

The dam is leaking... This mideast war is a way to distract the people from pursuing this, because now they are afraid again, afraid of a World War 4Ever.

I only do this to educate. I have spent thousands of dollars printing materials, burning DVDs, etc. I have nothing to gain from this. To categorize me as a "conspiradroid" or "idiot" or "UFO believer" is childish. You aren't looking at the whole picture.
The dam is leaking... This mideast war is a way to distract the people from pursuing this, because now they are afraid again, afraid of a World War 4Ever.

so let me get this right,

the ISI a subsidiary of the CIA.

The ISI was involved with the 9/11 attacks in order to allow the us govt. to follow through on its plan to take control of the middle east, for oil/money/stability.

but the mideast war created by the events of 9/11 is a ploy to get people to for get about the fact that the cia was behind 9/11.

.....im not following this line of logic. explain.

 07-18-2006, 02:22 PM         #132
Tattered_Hoody  OP
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 datkid72 said

but the mideast war created by the events of 9/11 is a ploy to get people to for get about the fact that the cia was behind 9/11.

.....im not following this line of logic. explain.
that is not my line of logic. I never said the CIA was behind 9/11, that's like blaming bush.

Rogue elements of our government and foreign governments were involved, without a doubt.

If this war escalates, none of this will matter, because the United States of Amnesia will forget about 911 and instead focus on the war.

You need to read the Wolfowitz Doctrine of the 80s, it is basically the Blueprint of all that is going on.

Like I said.... NONE OF US KNOW THE TRUTH, but what we've been told has been wildly distorted and falsified.

We can debate this endlessly, but whats the point. The purpose is to gather enough nationwide support to demand a new, independent investigation, not some whitewash investigation headed by a Bush administration lackey (Phillip Zelikow, anyone???)

 07-18-2006, 02:25 PM         #133
Tattered_Hoody  OP
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And please tell me what Iraq or Afghanistan had to do with 9/11 if the FBI admits NO HARD EVIDENCE connecting bin laden to 911, 15 of the 19 alleged "hijackers" are from Saudi Arabia, even though their identities are in doubt (admitted by FBI director Robert Mueller)???????

Please explain to me why the wars?

Or why the Taliban eradicated the opium crop when they ruled Afghanistan, but now that we occupy it, the opium crop is blooming and the heroin is everywhere?

ONE NATION, UNDER G-O-D
GUNS-OIL-DRUGS

 07-18-2006, 02:29 PM         #134
Tattered_Hoody  OP
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the US economy relies on drug money, and the Rich old White men that run rap make these black "thug rappers" talk about this bullsh*t as if they import the drugs...

Gangsta rap is destroying your neighborhoods and penetrating the minds of the youth. I see it happening everyday in people's language, attitude, clothing, and demeanor.

It is perpetuating a generation of ignorance, materialism, self-indulgence, and instant gratification.


I'll be fu*king dead before I give into that sh*t.


mos def's "THE r*pe OVER" expresses my sentiments.

 07-18-2006, 02:38 PM         #135
Tattered_Hoody  OP
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 djnovafresh said
What about the bombing of the Marine barracks, the us embassy, and the USS cole i guess the Taliwackers didn't have nothing to do with that. They recurit that why they are from Saudi Arabia just like Bin Laden they come from all over. I thought you would know something like that!!!
Sure someone can hit a ship with a rocket launcher, but can 19 guys with boxcutters infiltrate the most powerful nation on earth?

Can they make NORAD stand down? (see Norman Mineta's testimony, which was omitted from the Commission Report)

Can they BLOCK an investigation for over 400 days?

Can they appoint a Bush loyalist as head of the commission, where any member of the commission can veto any item from being in the final report?

Can they not fire anyone for failing to protect or country, but instead give everyone promotions?

Can they make the whole country forget about the missing 2.3 Trillion Dollars announced by Donald Rumsfeld on 9/10/2001?

Can Osama Bin Laden do all of this?

 07-18-2006, 02:40 PM         #136
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If you believe he could, I've got a great 23-page fairy tale about 911 that I helped put together for you to read:



There are corresponding videos on that site as well.

 12 years ago '05        #137
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Okay now we are getting somewhere. despite its blunt lanuage, this doctrine states facts and explains what world we live in.

Wolfowitz Doctrine:

"Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to general global power."
"The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."
"Like the coalition that opposed Iraqi aggression, we should expect future coalitions to be ad hoc a.ssemblies, often not lasting beyond the crisis being confronted, and in many cases carrying only general agreement over the objectives to be accomplished. Nevertheless, the sense that the world order is ultimately backed by the U.S. will be an important stabilizing factor."
While the U.S. cannot become the world's policeman, by a.ssuming responsibility for righting every wrong, we will retain the preeminent responsibility for addressing selectively those wrongs which threaten not only our interests, but those of our allies or friends, or which could seriously unsettle international relations.
"In the Middle East and Southwest Asia, our overall objective is to remain the predominant outside power in the region and preserve U.S. and Western access to the region's oil."
this still does not tie rouge/fringe groups in us govt to the 9/11 attacks.

9/11 and our govts. subsequent actions have actualy played against this doctrine.

for example to keep a power like russia at bay it would be in our best intrest that a non oil producing buffer nation like afganistan was a powerful.

 07-18-2006, 02:45 PM         #138
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the Wolfowitz Doctrine (and "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski), and the child of it, the Project for a New American Century, states:

1) America should be the only global superpower
2) America should have full access to Middle East oil
3) America should prevent other countries from space exploration
4) America should have a permanent military presence in the Middle East
5) America should eliminate "rogue nations" like Iraq and install governments that support American Interests.


WITHOUT 911, would this have been POSSIBLE???

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings Revolutionary Change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."
-"Rebuilding America's Defenses" page 51, September 2000


Here's a short video for the ADHD folks out there re: PNAC

 07-18-2006, 02:51 PM         #139
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I dont really care if we invade iraq, then iran then the rest of the middle east. Survival of the fittest. No pus*y's allowed I guess. People in the US today are too lifetime for there own good.

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props, that was some raw sh*t.

 12 years ago '05        #141
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 Tattered_Hoody said
the Wolfowitz Doctrine (and "The Grand Chessboard" by Zbigniew Brzezinski), and the child of it, the Project for a New American Century, states:

1) America should be the only global superpower
2) America should have full access to Middle East oil
3) America should prevent other countries from space exploration
4) America should have a permanent military presence in the Middle East
5) America should eliminate "rogue nations" like Iraq and install governments that support American Interests.


WITHOUT 911, would this have been POSSIBLE???

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings Revolutionary Change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."
-"Rebuilding America's Defenses" page 51, September 2000


Here's a short video for the ADHD folks out there re: PNAC
that is a bastardized version of the doctrine, but besides the point to answer your question yes, yes the us could go through with the doctrine without 9/11.

the action the us has taken in the midddle east since 2001 has been the hard road.

if what you believe is true the first nation that we would have attacked was iran, because they are not well liked in the region and they have almost 3x the amount of oil as iraq. the us as had past run-in's with this country, the people in the nation of iran are homogenouse as opposed to the 3 groups that make up iraq and they have disdain for their govt.

im tired of talking about this....

occam's razor

i'll go with the simple answer.

 07-18-2006, 03:06 PM         #142
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 datkid72 said
that is a bastardized version of the doctrine, but besides the point to answer your question yes, yes the us could go through with the doctrine without 9/11.

the action the us has taken in the midddle east since 2001 has been the hard road.

if what you believe is true the first nation that we would have attacked was iran, because they are not well liked in the region and they have almost 3x the amount of oil as iraq. the us as had past run-in's with this country, the people in the nation of iran are homogenouse as opposed to the 3 groups that make up iraq and they have disdain for their govt.

im tired of talking about this....

occam's razor

i'll go with the simple answer.
nice read

 07-18-2006, 03:06 PM         #143
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 datkid72 said
that is a bastardized version of the doctrine, but besides the point to answer your question yes, yes the us could go through with the doctrine without 9/11.

the action the us has taken in the midddle east since 2001 has been the hard road.

if what you believe is true the first nation that we would have attacked was iran, because they are not well liked in the region and they have almost 3x the amount of oil as iraq. the us as had past run-in's with this country, the people in the nation of iran are homogenouse as opposed to the 3 groups that make up iraq and they have disdain for their govt.

im tired of talking about this....

occam's razor

i'll go with the simple answer.

hehehehe, im glad you think do highly of yourself. occam's razor yo!:rolleyes:

 07-18-2006, 03:07 PM         #144
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 datkid72 said
that is a bastardized version of the doctrine, but besides the point to answer your question yes, yes the us could go through with the doctrine without 9/11.

the action the us has taken in the midddle east since 2001 has been the hard road.

if what you believe is true the first nation that we would have attacked was iran, because they are not well liked in the region and they have almost 3x the amount of oil as iraq. the us as had past run-in's with this country, the people in the nation of iran are homogenouse as opposed to the 3 groups that make up iraq and they have disdain for their govt.

im tired of talking about this....

occam's razor

i'll go with the simple answer.

Warplans to invade Afghanistan were on the table 9/10/2001
British troops were already preparing.

We had to get into Afghanistan to get the pipeline going for the 10+ trillion in energy we want to rip out of the region.

Bush wanted to get into Iraq since becoming president. Richard Clarke's book details that on 9/11 Bush asks him to look into if Saddam had anything to do with this. Bush was trying to find a way into Iraq. the made up story about Africa's uranium, the fear-mongering of a psychologically traumatized nation, and the rallying support of the country after the "surprise attack" is what he needed. Bush has used 911 for everything from the wars, wiretapping, etc...


Hitler did the same thing when the Reichstag burned. He set up Homeland security (Reichland security).

It took the German people a few years to realize what was going on, but by then it was too late.

 07-18-2006, 03:09 PM         #145
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 catchaBreath said
nice read
gtfoh already, all you do is dyckryde! you always piggybacking on other peoples posts. i love how you chime in with your little bullsh*t remarks. what a fu*king clown you are..

 07-18-2006, 03:17 PM         #146
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 ill800 said
gtfoh already, all you do is dyckryde! you always piggybacking on other peoples posts. i love how you chime in with your little bullsh*t remarks. what a fu*king clown you are..

Aww did we catch feelings??? :banghead:

I called you a d*ckrider the other day and now you are turning the tables

I'm not piggybacking sh*t, I just reply with my own opinion.

Look through headlines and knowledge forum, you'll see that I'm not biased. I find myself agreeing with people that I've never agreed with in the past.

 12 years ago '04        #147
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My whole view on the 9/11 sh*t.

Somethin' fishy is goin' on wit US Government n' the Bush Administration. And they did somethin' whether intentionally or unintentionally that caused 9/11. There is some kinda agenda goin' on.

You can believe the consipracy theories that come from random kats u dont know, or u can believe the US government and the "facts" that they feed the media.

Me personally, when i hear the US Government....The word 'trust' doesnt come to mind.

Maybe the government had nothin' to do wit 9/11 like the media says....but wouldnt put it past them.

 07-18-2006, 03:27 PM         #148
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 djnovafresh said

everyone should read this
Katherine Harris had 40,000 African Americans disenfranchised from voting...

Republican Infiltrators staged a riot in Miami-Dade county to stop the recounting.

Bush "won" by 500 votes....


This has nothing to do with the Electoral College.


Check out "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime"



This goes into details about the voting, PNAC, the Flight Schools, the owner of the Flight Schools, Drugs, the "hijackers", Able Danger, Sibel Edmonds, John O'Neill

Real sh*t, facts, backed up with documentation.
Go to to use the exclusive study guide that conveniently links to each of the many talking points in this film.

 07-18-2006, 03:34 PM         #149
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 ill800 said
you know, you kinda remind me of bill o reily...
LOL I KNEW IT mr conspiracy posting here... AGAIN with his conspiracies... r o f l

 12 years ago '05        #150
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 ill800 said
hehehehe, im glad you think do highly of yourself. occam's razor yo!:rolleyes:

no im glad you think highly of yourself. i came to you asking for real info and you gave me this?!?! pure garbage.

highlights:

nixion had john lennon k!lled yo! :rolleyes:

1978 - In the movie 'The Medusa Touch', Richard Burton plays Robert Morlar who uses his telekinetic powers to cause all sorts of mayhem including causing a jumbo jet to crash into a building. yo! :rolleyes:

1981 - In the beginning of John Carpenter's film Escape from New York, a terrorist hijacks Air Force One in mid air and crashes it into a NYC building just a few buildings away from the WTC. yo! :rolleyes:

September 11, 1981 - Dylan Klebold of Columbine infamy is born. yo! :rolleyes:

December 7, 1987 - The last airplane hijacking in the U.S. was a suicide hijacking which happened on Flight 1771. (Note that the number 1771 is the combined #'s of two 9/11 flight's; Flight 11 and Flight 77.) yo! :rolleyes:

i tried to find common ground and see where you were coming from with your claims. you are only interested in reafirming what you alread believe to be true.

you are using insults to attack my claims/questions. just like you said ignorant people do to you. you lose. the grassy knoll is that way.

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