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Tupac 177 72.24%
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 06-16-2006, 09:59 AM         #151
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papoose and cassidy got 1 style! i ca see u say cassidy bcuz u prooly aint hear all his sh*t but papoose got many different sides to his raps and as far as cassidy goes i think just cuz n*ggaz git too familiar wit his punchlines dey dont realize dat n*gga rip witout them. ne way cassidy lyrics be way better dan buddens. his punchlines is better besides the fact that every1 steals his punchlines. and he ca git on some kick knowledge sh*t wen he want especially papoose. i havent seen nuthin from joe budden dat i dont see from fabolous and ne other good rapper in ny

 06-16-2006, 10:02 AM         #152
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 crmlbywonder said
papoose and cassidy got 1 style! i ca see u say cassidy bcuz u prooly aint hear all his sh*t but papoose got many different sides to his raps and as far as cassidy goes i think just cuz n*ggaz git too familiar wit his punchlines dey dont realize dat n*gga rip witout them. ne way cassidy lyrics be way better dan buddens. his punchlines is better besides the fact that every1 steals his punchlines. and he ca git on some kick knowledge sh*t wen he want especially papoose. i havent seen nuthin from joe budden dat i dont see from fabolous and ne other good rapper in ny
You obviously arent listening to Budden then. Get back to me when Cassidy can even come close to making a song like 3 Sides to a Story. Papoose is always on that "Ill rob you/shoot you/sell you this" bullsh*t, out of like 10 mixtapes, he probably has maybe 20 songs with meaning to them.

 06-16-2006, 10:10 AM         #153
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 tweedle- said
You obviously arent listening to Budden then. Get back to me when Cassidy can even come close to making a song like 3 Sides to a Story. Papoose is always on that "Ill rob you/shoot you/sell you this" bullsh*t, out of like 10 mixtapes, he probably has maybe 20 songs with meaning to them.
dog go cop a couple of papoose mixtapes wen he first came out or matter fact i'll upload some for u. i know u dont listen to pap unless u just hear wats on tha radio bcuz dude has more songs wit meaning den ne rapper i know out right now. as far as cassidy goes i dont know about song makin but wen it comes to freestyles and punchline no1 can fu*k wit him point blank his lines go to hard. but if u wanna hear some real pap hit me up and i'll upload em

 12 years ago '06        #154
waytoomuch 4 heat pts
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to me young buck is the best rapper out right now. he hasn't made one corny joint yet. straight outta cashville will be considered classic in 8-10 years. joe budden is not even on young buck's level yet and i mean that.

 06-16-2006, 10:16 AM         #155
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 crmlbywonder said
dog go cop a couple of papoose mixtapes wen he first came out or matter fact i'll upload some for u. i know u dont listen to pap unless u just hear wats on tha radio bcuz dude has more songs wit meaning den ne rapper i know out right now. as far as cassidy goes i dont know about song makin but wen it comes to freestyles and punchline no1 can fu*k wit him point blank his lines go to hard. but if u wanna hear some real pap hit me up and i'll upload em
I have plenty of Papoose mixtapes.



There are plenty of rappers with songs that have more meaning than Paps. Every mixtape he has is filled 75% "Ill rob you/sell you this/Im the best" type sh*t, its generic bullsh*t. Pap is the most overrated rapper other than Jay-Z and Lil Wayne. Cassidy has probably never freestyled in his life, sh*ts all pre-written and Buddens punchs>>>>>>>Cassidy Punchs, you just dont hear Buddens punchs so much because he doesnt just spit punch after punch after punch like Cassidy.

 06-16-2006, 10:17 AM         #156
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 waytoomuch said
to me young buck is the best rapper out right now. he hasn't made one corny joint yet. straight outta cashville will be considered classic in 8-10 years. joe budden is not even on young buck's level yet and i mean that.
Wow. You need to just log off now.

Mood Musik 2>>>>>>>Anything Buck will ever make in his lifetime.

 12 years ago '06        #157
waytoomuch 4 heat pts
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 tweedle- said
Wow. You need to just log off now.

Mood Musik 2>>>>>>>Anything Buck will ever make in his lifetime.

no offense but ur sort of overrating mood muzik 2. it was a good mixtape, but it is what it is, a mixtape and nothing more and not an album. having a mixtape full of samples and barely doing hooks is not really album status music. Young Buck can make his own original music and have good hooks and pick good beats. can joe budden do the same on his next album. well so far, he didn't do so good musically on his last album, so there it goes.

 06-16-2006, 10:24 AM         #158
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 tweedle- said
I have plenty of Papoose mixtapes.



There are plenty of rappers with songs that have more meaning than Paps. Every mixtape he has is filled 75% "Ill rob you/sell you this/Im the best" type sh*t, its generic bullsh*t. Pap is the most overrated rapper other than Jay-Z and Lil Wayne. Cassidy has probably never freestyled in his life, sh*ts all pre-written and Buddens punchs>>>>>>>Cassidy Punchs, you just dont hear Buddens punchs so much because he doesnt just spit punch after punch after punch like Cassidy.
as far as u sayin cassidy has prewrittens dats da case 4 almost rapper includin buddens. but dey not really prewriitens. dey were originally freestyles in the first place but he might spit dat same verse on a beat for a mixtape. but da battle he had against freeway was all off the top of the dome except maybe a few bars dat he wud kick in from sumthin ol but it was still of the top and as far as i'm concerned he ripped those freestyles wit freeway. n if u do listen to pap im sure u wud know that faces of death the original 1 is way better than 3 sides to a story by joe budden. joe buddens punchlines is iight but dey not as complex as cassidys. cassidy doesnt spit punch after punch dats murda mook but his sh*ts are way more complex dan buddens

 12 years ago '06        #159
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man, how many west coast n*ggaz have heard anything from budden but "pump it up" or whatever song that was? and how many east coast n*ggaz have heard all of pac's classics? case closed

 06-16-2006, 10:26 AM         #160
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o and as far as song makin imma hustla is a way better commercial song den stuntin and ne song buddens has or will try to put out in his career

 12 years ago '04        #161
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: at budden bein copared to the G.O.A.T.

hot garbage > budden

 06-16-2006, 10:30 AM         #162
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 waytoomuch said
no offense but ur sort of overrating mood muzik 2. it was a good mixtape, but it is what it is, a mixtape and nothing more and not an album. having a mixtape full of samples and barely doing hooks is not really album status music. Young Buck can make his own original music and have good hooks. can joe budden do the same on his next album. well so far, he didn't do so good musically on his last album, so there it goes.
That mixtape should of been an album. People from L.A. to Tokyo were saying it should of been an album, it was that good and what does that say for YB, when a mixtape is better than his album? Buddens album was decent, nothing special but not horrible but who did he have working on his album with him? How many features did he have compared to YB? Budden - 3 Buck -12 and Budden had more tracks than Buck! Budden was alone making his album, Buck had the whole G-Unit camp and Shady/Aftermath helping him. Buddens album dropped 3 years ago, so if we compare their newest things, Mood Musik 2>>>>SOC.

 06-16-2006, 10:32 AM         #163
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 crmlbywonder said
as far as u sayin cassidy has prewrittens dats da case 4 almost rapper includin buddens. but dey not really prewriitens. dey were originally freestyles in the first place but he might spit dat same verse on a beat for a mixtape. but da battle he had against freeway was all off the top of the dome except maybe a few bars dat he wud kick in from sumthin ol but it was still of the top and as far as i'm concerned he ripped those freestyles wit freeway. n if u do listen to pap im sure u wud know that faces of death the original 1 is way better than 3 sides to a story by joe budden. joe buddens punchlines is iight but dey not as complex as cassidys. cassidy doesnt spit punch after punch dats murda mook but his sh*ts are way more complex dan buddens
I cant even respond to this, seriously

 06-16-2006, 10:40 AM         #164
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 tweedle- said
I cant even respond to this, seriously
iight then

 06-16-2006, 10:42 AM         #165
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Its not that I couldnt respond, there was just too much stupidity init.

Im just gonna sum it up with Joe Budden>>>Cassidy in everyway.


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 06-16-2006, 10:46 AM         #166
crmlbywonder  OP
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prove the stupidity in it. dont just say sh*t cuz u sound like u cant finish tha argument. i want u to prove me wrong dats y im on dis site in tha first place. until u prove the stupidity init ya wrong. was it tha beginnin end? wat?

 06-16-2006, 10:48 AM         #167
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 crmlbywonder said
as far as u sayin cassidy has prewrittens dats da case 4 almost rapper includin buddens. but dey not really prewriitens. dey were originally freestyles in the first place but he might spit dat same verse on a beat for a mixtape. but da battle he had against freeway was all off the top of the dome except maybe a few bars dat he wud kick in from sumthin ol but it was still of the top and as far as i'm concerned he ripped those freestyles wit freeway. n if u do listen to pap im sure u wud know that faces of death the original 1 is way better than 3 sides to a story by joe budden. joe buddens punchlines is iight but dey not as complex as cassidys. cassidy doesnt spit punch after punch dats murda mook but his sh*ts are way more complex dan buddens
The parts in bold and when Cassidy couldnt think of things to rhyme in that Freeway battle, he just used to spit a line and end it with n*gga, over and over again.

 06-16-2006, 10:54 AM         #168
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ok he ended it wit n*gga but the word b4 it rhymed. are u serious?
did u listen to cass album? how many songs did he have wit punclines. another point ma opinion on faces of death was it was just as good if not then it was better then 3 sides. point blank. n u ca say joe buddens hottest punchline right now and dat will b nuthin to some cass sh*t

 06-16-2006, 10:57 AM         #169
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 crmlbywonder said
ok he ended it wit n*gga but the word b4 it rhymed. are u serious?
did u listen to cass album? how many songs did he have wit punclines. another point ma opinion on faces of death was it was just as good if not then it was better then 3 sides. point blank. n u ca say joe buddens hottest punchline right now and dat will b nuthin to some cass sh*t
"Dudes is spittin ducktales waitin on a ride, i gotta G5 Launch Pad waitin out side"

"He dodgin po' po', cause n*ggas wanna act like they mafioso/ all they see is me when i spark the 4-5 with a red dot bigger than a target logo"

"Wave one engine goodnight. I call snitches Steinbrenner always puttin a new face in pin stripes."

"Was the best, then I left, came back & I'm the best again
Found the game bi*ch made, the airs full of estrogen"

"Check the time its around that hour/lil n*ggas aint round' that powder/they aint supa or luigi or wario aint found that power/and they couldnt spit fire if they found that flower"

"Im a grown man, I ain't gotta say no homo/ cuz in the *Real World* most thugs is *Karamo*"

Take your pick, I can post more if you want.

 12 years ago '06        #170
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 tweedle- said
That mixtape should of been an album. People from L.A. to Tokyo were saying it should of been an album, it was that good and what does that say for YB, when a mixtape is better than his album? Buddens album was decent, nothing special but not horrible but who did he have working on his album with him? How many features did he have compared to YB? Budden - 3 Buck -12 and Budden had more tracks than Buck! Budden was alone making his album, Buck had the whole G-Unit camp and Shady/Aftermath helping him. Buddens album dropped 3 years ago, so if we compare their newest things, Mood Musik 2>>>>SOC.

plenty of mixtapes are better than albums. no big deal. Mood Muzik 2 is not better than Straight Outta Cashville. Stop lying. Young Buck alone is heat. His songs with and without g-unit is hot. Plus I like buck's flow better. He was smart and knew which singles to choose. he knew who to work with also. that's smart on buck's half, he knew good beats and had better hooks. In 5 yrs. Buck will be relevant because he at least has a soon to be classic under his belt, while budden has none. in 5 yrs. buddens might be doing movies if he flops again.

 06-16-2006, 11:07 AM         #171
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 waytoomuch said
plenty of mixtapes are better than albums. no big deal. Mood Muzik 2 is not better than Straight Outta Cashville. Stop lying. Young Buck alone is heat. His songs with and without g-unit is hot. Plus I like buck's flow better. He was smart and knew which singles to choose. he knew who to work with also. that's smart on buck's half, he knew good beats and had better hooks. In 5 yrs. Buck will be relevant because he at least has a soon to be classic under his belt, while budden has none. in 5 yrs. buddens might be doing movies if he flops again.
Im not lieing, it is better. I liked SOC but it wasnt amazing. Budden had perfect songs for singles, Pump it up was huge and Fire did well too, Def Jam fu*ked him up over by not promoting him, is that Buddens fault? No. If Buck wasnt with G-Unit he would be no where, he had 50 and the rest of G-unit/shady/aftermath working with him, you think he could pull that off by himself? Never. Buck needed those appearences to make his album hot, his best songs were with appearances. In 5 years Bucks gonna be known as 50s lil toy soldier, if Def Jam release Buddens album this year, he will be running the rap game in 5 years.

 06-16-2006, 11:11 AM         #172
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at heds hu think buddens better dan pac


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 06-16-2006, 11:14 AM         #173
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 tweedle- said
"Dudes is spittin ducktales waitin on a ride, i gotta G5 Launch Pad waitin out side"

"He dodgin po' po', cause n*ggas wanna act like they mafioso/ all they see is me when i spark the 4-5 with a red dot bigger than a target logo"

"Wave one engine goodnight. I call snitches Steinbrenner always puttin a new face in pin stripes."

"Was the best, then I left, came back & I'm the best again
Found the game bi*ch made, the airs full of estrogen"

"Check the time its around that hour/lil n*ggas aint round' that powder/they aint supa or luigi or wario aint found that power/and they couldnt spit fire if they found that flower"

"Im a grown man, I ain't gotta say no homo/ cuz in the *Real World* most thugs is *Karamo*"

Take your pick, I can post more if you want.
o sh*t dis n*gga really did it iight

dey love tha fu*kin i got lots a condoms i just go on my block to find em
i wait til dey drive past den wave ma watch behind em
n dey pull ova thinkin dat da cops behind em cuz the rock blind em like police car lights ma c*ck not dien i keep hard pipe

i had 4 dollas and flip dat bought a soda 2 dutches some chips and a kit kat
got 25 cent back, made a fone call like yo swiss drop tha chrome off i got easy1

now dat red dot 1 was got but papoose had betta
dat red dot on his head tight
i gave em a death sentence for runnin a red light

back to cass
u got guns shoot me u will git brutally wound
wen i unload ma oozi in ya fruit of the loom

yall all snitchin if i put u on ma hitlist
you'll walk around rockin football equipment

cass got the cash and the mobsters
so i got tha coppers on ma a.ss like tha tag on ma boxers

im the punchline champion
yall got rhymes but i heard it all b4 like sunshine anderson

 06-16-2006, 11:19 AM         #174
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 crmlbywonder said
u got guns shoot me u will git brutally wound
wen i unload ma oozi in ya fruit of the loom

yall all snitchin if i put u on ma hitlist
you'll walk around rockin football equipment
These were the only two that were good but they aint fu*king with that mario and luigi line or the target logo one.

 06-16-2006, 11:26 AM         #175
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i know i cant think of sh*t right now lol
but i aint even say no pap punchs but i should've cuz dat n*gga ripped the threats beat and his song versatility


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