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 12 years ago '04        #1
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jaybizzle 
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Shaq Cant Win a Title Without Kobe!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

 
whos mad about that!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shaqs has got to hate that his only rings hes gonna get are with kobe

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 12 years ago '04        #2
Phreaky41 1 heat pts
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i was hoping somebody other than myself was going to start this thread bcuz im tired of hearing the opposite. the truth of the matter is that shaq is just as arrogant as kobe but people just finds him to be much more hilarious because he is, but they just hate kobe's guts. america blames kobe for the breakup, but who's to say that shaq isn't as selfish as you all says kobe is. shaq couldnt co-exist with penny in orlando, same in la, but he and d. wade are tight. it's not about feelings, it's about skills, and kobe has skills. when its all said and done, they might not ever win a ring without each other, but it was good while it lasted. i hope this isnt true becuz i am a lakers fan, but u know, hey, whatever happens, just happens.

 12 years ago '04        #3
1000bluntz 
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Shaq isn't the same dominant force he once was. If he was still that player his team wouldn't lose like this. And this series isn't over you lame a.ss fu*k. They still got 3 straight in MIA and they play well there. Riley is not some lame over there on the bench. If the Heat come back and win this series you should be banned.

 12 years ago '06        #4
SHootar 51 heat pts51
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 Phreaky41 said
i was hoping somebody other than myself was going to start this thread bcuz im tired of hearing the opposite. the truth of the matter is that shaq is just as arrogant as kobe but people just finds him to be much more hilarious because he is, but they just hate kobe's guts. america blames kobe for the breakup, but who's to say that shaq isn't as selfish as you all says kobe is. shaq couldnt co-exist with penny in orlando, same in la, but he and d. wade are tight. it's not about feelings, it's about skills, and kobe has skills. when its all said and done, they might not ever win a ring without each other, but it was good while it lasted. i hope this isnt true becuz i am a lakers fan, but u know, hey, whatever happens, just happens.

altho i see light in the argument at hand....there are 2 very key counter arguments that smash this debate...

1) america and shaq ain't the only one blamin/hatin on kobe here....phil jackson AND most of the lakers were on the same ship back when this feud took off. That gives "the educated/average" person...(and i say educated cuz kobe stans are not)....the impression when u add 1 + 1, u most definetly get 2...which = kobe is the cancer...not shaq.

2) kobe is now in his prime....shaq WAS in his prime during the runs. He ain't sh*t now as tonite was proof by. to compare a shaq of today and the shaq that won those ships is just foolish.

 06-12-2006, 12:36 AM         #5
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i really think if Shaq had Kobe in this series..he'll be up 2-0..instead of down 0-2..Kobe beat Mavs by himself...face it...Westside - Bestside..Clippers can beat Miami in 7 games

 12 years ago '04        #6
Hyper_Intel 28 heat pts28
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 Maroon_Tiger said
and kobe cant get to the finals, let alone past the first 1-2 rounds w/o shaq...
Same sh*t I was about to say. fu*k Kobe bi*chass n*gga...

 06-12-2006, 10:18 AM         #7
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good point.

 06-12-2006, 11:45 AM         #8
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 Maroon_Tiger said
and kobe cant get to the finals, let alone past the first 1-2 rounds w/o shaq...
Maybe if Lakers were playing in the sh*tty east, Kobe could do the same. But till shaq does anything without Kobe and vice versa, its easy to say they need eachother. Shaq couldn't do it with Penny(when penny was tyte), he does it once kobe becomes great, then he has Wade, and a great supporting cast, and he may not do it again.

 12 years ago '05        #9
JesusShuttles 6 heat pts
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This Series Aint Ova

 06-12-2006, 11:57 AM         #10
macadon83 
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 Maroon_Tiger said
if they were in the east, if they face the pistons or heat, its over in 5-6 games... phoenix plays NO DEFENSE... the dont have a center... the heat/pistons would crush them

i dont even think kobe has ever beaten shaq since the trade
I dont agree. The lakers defense was pretty good during the playoffs this year, and eastern teams are more defense than offense. Our problem was stoppin' the Sun's 3-point shooting. I don't think the pistons or heat would have scored so easily on us.

Also, you're mistaken about Kobe not beating shaq since the trade.

 06-12-2006, 11:59 AM         #11
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can you say... shaq and company the 3rd team to come back from down 0-2 in NBA history? its gonna happen watch

 06-12-2006, 12:05 PM         #12
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@ cats getting all hyped up when all the mavs did was defend home floor..they are SUPPOSED to win at home...when they win in miami, then you have a point, until then, shut the fu*k up

 12 years ago '04        #13
Mat The W 
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it's only 2-0

 12 years ago '06        #14
SHootar 51 heat pts51
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 shonuff12 said
@ cats getting all hyped up when all the mavs did was defend home floor..they are SUPPOSED to win at home...when they win in miami, then you have a point, until then, shut the fu*k up

 Matt The W said
it's only 2-0

wtf u guys talkin bout....it is what it is....quit sugar-coatin sh*t. theres only been 2 teams in the history of nba finals to come back from an 0-2 deficit to win. the fact that you ppl are suggesting that its not that big of a deal, and its what home teams are 'supposed' to do, is absurd. .

Am i saying its impossible??....no....but am i saying that it will take a relative minor-miracle of sorts to win this series??...yes.

 12 years ago '04        #15
casper 1 heat pts
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the lakers did beat the heat last year.




& the year before la lost one of the games by 2 in ot, i know a loss is a loss

lakers & heat r always gonna be good games for a long time now

 12 years ago '04        #16
MiamiDade 55 heat pts55
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 Im on Kobe's nutz said
i really think if Shaq had Kobe in this series..he'll be up 2-0..instead of down 0-2..Kobe beat Mavs by himself...face it...Westside - Bestside..Clippers can beat Miami in 7 games

I disagree....

 06-12-2006, 03:05 PM         #17
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I'll admit that I think you guys might be right. But if Shaq and Wade had some of the supporting cast that Shaq and Kobe had, then I think Shaq might actually win another ring. At this point, there is really really no reason for Dallas to change it's defense against the heat because no one can make a shot.

 06-12-2006, 03:08 PM         #18
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trust me, the heat will lose....Williams is gettin' r*ped by Terry er'ry trip

The Mavs startin' 5>>>>>>Shaq + Wade..... basically 2 vs. 5.... shaq can't even dominate against dampier or diop

when the Heat lose the team will be dismembered..... them n*ggas goin' leave....i.e. Williams, Walker:thumbsdow


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 12 years ago '04        #19
Wawdy24 2 heat pts
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 Maroon_Tiger said
i dont even think kobe has ever beaten shaq since the trade
Monday Jan 16, 2006 ... Lakers beat Miami ... 100-92 ... Kobe had 37!


 12 years ago '04        #20
Mat The W 
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 SHootar said
wtf u guys talkin bout....it is what it is....quit sugar-coatin sh*t. theres only been 2 teams in the history of nba finals to come back from an 0-2 deficit to win. the fact that you ppl are suggesting that its not that big of a deal, and its what home teams are 'supposed' to do, is absurd. .

Am i saying its impossible??....no....but am i saying that it will take a relative minor-miracle of sorts to win this series??...yes.

lol, trust i want the mavs to win. im just saying its only 2-0, the series aint over yet. i think the mavs will win the series but they havent won yet.

 12 years ago '04        #21
Wawdy24 2 heat pts
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IF miami shot halfway decent ... heat are up 2-0 ... but who knows ... it's going 6 ... not sure who gunna win it ... but routing for Dallas ... That would add to the Kobe hype ... Kobe outscored the NBA Champs through 3 quarters HAHAHHAHHAHA ... Just playing ya'll!

 12 years ago '04        #22
SHOWTIME 
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jason terry >>>>>> williams and that bum payton

shaq is a shadow of his dominant self, yea if shaq was in his mid twenties the heat might be kickin a.ss, BUT HE AINT! i see ppl blaming shaqs supporting cast for not hitting open jumpers etc..... thats ridiculous, they are all to blame INCLUDING shaq

all these fools saying if shaq had so and so with him, or if shaq was ____ yrs old hed dominate, or if wade was older hed stick the mavs

thats just like saying if the pistons picked up paul pierce steve nash shawn marion and brought jordan outta retirement they woulda beat the heat, that aint the case so stfu and stop trying to make excuses with all that wishful thinking

 06-12-2006, 03:33 PM         #23
shonuff12 
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 SHootar said
wtf u guys talkin bout....it is what it is....quit sugar-coatin sh*t. theres only been 2 teams in the history of nba finals to come back from an 0-2 deficit to win. the fact that you ppl are suggesting that its not that big of a deal, and its what home teams are 'supposed' to do, is absurd. .

Am i saying its impossible??....no....but am i saying that it will take a relative minor-miracle of sorts to win this series??...yes.
this is always hillarious to me..when people say that some sh*t won't happen because it hasn't happened....see the lakers/suns series earlier this year..point made

You want to give me a reason you think the mavs will win (i think they will too) but don't tell me it's because of some sh*t that happened between two teams in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s. Especially if it doesn't involve a tradition of voting or something....

The Boston Red Sox taught me to never say never, you should take the same lesson

 12 years ago '06        #24
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 Phreaky41 said
i was hoping somebody other than myself was going to start this thread bcuz im tired of hearing the opposite. the truth of the matter is that shaq is just as arrogant as kobe but people just finds him to be much more hilarious because he is, but they just hate kobe's guts. america blames kobe for the breakup, but who's to say that shaq isn't as selfish as you all says kobe is. shaq couldnt co-exist with penny in orlando, same in la, but he and d. wade are tight. it's not about feelings, it's about skills, and kobe has skills. when its all said and done, they might not ever win a ring without each other, but it was good while it lasted. i hope this isnt true becuz i am a lakers fan, but u know, hey, whatever happens, just happens.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

 12 years ago '06        #25
SHootar 51 heat pts51
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 shonuff12 said
this is always hillarious to me..when people say that some sh*t won't happen because it hasn't happened....see the lakers/suns series earlier this year..point made

You want to give me a reason you think the mavs will win (i think they will too) but don't tell me it's because of some sh*t that happened between two teams in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s. Especially if it doesn't involve a tradition of voting or something....

The Boston Red Sox taught me to never say never, you should take the same lesson

....go back and read my post again

i said it would take a minor miracle of sorts....it can be done...but they'd be the 3rd team outta how many??

It's straight statistics....they have these stats because year after year they continue to hold true (this particular one hasn't been done in over 20 years).

I never said it can't happen....but you and Matt be actin like its ONLY 2-0, and they "just defended the home court" LOL. Thats foolish to put this sort of series lead as lightly as you two are makin it out to be...thats all.



....it's basically at that point like in poker where u just missed the turn card and have like 3 outs in the deck (1 number) that u need to hit and have like a 7 % chance or whatever. Do those stats ACTUALLY mean anything for this situation??...prolly not. But history has shown that theres an extremely small chance of succeeding.

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