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 05-27-2006, 12:21 PM         #76
modulatum  OP
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 Tha754kid said
You sure about that....take a look at this: #2/CAM'RON/KILLA SEASON/113,608/999/1,274/114,890


Thats a 85% decrease. Guess everybody who was gonna get it bought it the first week
Is that verified? I have trouble believing that even a hyped up piece of sh*t like Cam can drop that much

Also:
#14/RIHANNA/GIRL LIKE ME/42,733/-11/48,261/266,774
#23/JAGGED EDGE/JAGGED EDGE/35,136/-69/114,914/150,590
#44/MOBB DEEP/BLOOD MONEY/21,814/-43/38,572/166,767

Cam's behind Rihanna, JE, AND Mobb Deep. Dude is done.


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 05-27-2006, 12:58 PM         #77
Deacon51e  OP
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Cam album was hot. The game is so messe up right now. You have a real artist like cam who dont sell dat much. My n*ggas like D4L and Ying Yang Twins selling records. Dats B.S. Hip hop is dead

 05-27-2006, 01:52 PM         #78
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JR Writer is that n*gga/
So holla when ya stacks Bigga/














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 05-27-2006, 02:00 PM         #79
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i think w/ another single he could reach gold

 05-27-2006, 02:03 PM         #80
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 bigtrevdogg said
if you people think he gets $8.00 for each cd you are hallucinating. mariah carey, prince, janet jackson, micheal jackson, U2 don't even get that and they have record sells out the roof. you people need to stop taking whatever these rappers say and running with it. there is no record company in the world who is gonna give a mediocre artist as camron 8.00 a cd............lets get real

they also on big labels and get 100X more promotion and marketing wich has to be recouped so dont just throw out names witout knowin the situation

and mobb sold less than cam and they on aftermath had dre beats 50 cent on 6 songs and alot more promotion than cam did

plus videos on mtv trl

and bet

anology for you cats

mobb deep = big label i.e if you own a clothing brand and you sell it at a department store the department store get it's cut and you take home whatevers left at the end of the day

cam= independant if he sellin his sh*t out the trunk of his car he still gotta pay people but he take home alot more of the profit all he gotta pay for is beats wich he mostly uses upstart beatmakers who dont charge as much as say dr. dre or just blaze and then to make and distribute wich is about 2-3 dollars a cd if he sell his cd at 14.99 at the end of the day he taking home
7-8 dollars a cd

mobb deep had the machine interscope behind em and did less numbers than cam they had 50 cent on alot of they tracks and did less numbers than cam they had dr. dre beats and did less numbers than cam


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 12 years ago '05        #81
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Did you ever think that the reason why artist like Cam aint sellin is because the "fake a.ss gangsta" era is dead. Hip Hop is going back to what it used to be. Party music is topping the charts.JaRule, 50 cent and the Game milked it for everything it had(especially 50).Lil Jon, Dem Franchaise Boyz, D4L is whats bumpin in the club and sellin on the charts.To all you groupies: GET OVER IT!!!!!!

 05-27-2006, 05:06 PM         #82
modulatum  OP
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 PitneyAssassin1 said
Did you ever think that the reason why artist like Cam aint sellin is because the "fake a.ss gangsta" era is dead. Hip Hop is going back to what it used to be. Party music is topping the charts.JaRule, 50 cent and the Game milked it for everything it had(especially 50).Lil Jon, Dem Franchaise Boyz, D4L is whats bumpin in the club and sellin on the charts.To all you groupies: GET OVER IT!!!!!!
You make sense. So by extending your theory, in another 5 years, we'll have barren beats with extremely violent lyrics and rock mashups, and in 15 years we'll have a new conscious era, and in 25 years we'll go back to fake a.ss gangsta?

 12 years ago '04        #83
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 LitO said
I copped it...... jeahhh fu*k tha haters... and im in japan for anyone who wants it...
why you reppin NY then?

 05-27-2006, 05:25 PM         #84
modulatum  OP
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 jayt said
why you reppin NY then?
Because he's a groupie.

 05-27-2006, 05:27 PM         #85
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 johnnyblaze924 said
i think dudes forgetting $8 yeah you gotta budget it...but that dude is independent....his budget is half what these other clowns using and selling the same records....you can hate on the music all you want....but record sales solidifies for all those haters that dont recognize real
Producers, Photoshoots, touring, the production of the cd, he'll be lucky to walk away with 100,000 for this cd...

cam aint no big enough artist to be making 8 dollars a cd...


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 05-27-2006, 05:33 PM         #86
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 Maroon_Tiger said
everybody's 2nd week has a decrease by at least 25%... and since cam has no real hit songs out.. he'll be pushing like 70-80k by next week
probably 40k... lol

 12 years ago '06        #87
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i wasnt really feelin the album

 12 years ago '06        #88
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These n*ggas hatin like a muthafu*ka. k!lla Cam stepped his game up on this album. This album makes purple haze and come home with me look like mixtape money. That intro is off the chain by the way. DIPSET bi*ch!

 05-27-2006, 08:24 PM         #89
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why everybody keep saying cam independant and he getting 8 bucks an album? cam is on a major label. atlantic is one of the biggest labels. and the fact is cam got like a 2.5 million dollar advance which means that has to be recouped before he makes any more money from the label or gets any royalty checks. a.ssuming he has some type of joint venture deal he probably wont see a royalty check until his second album on atlantic.

 05-28-2006, 12:11 AM         #90
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 eastpointvet said
why everybody keep saying cam independant and he getting 8 bucks an album? cam is on a major label. atlantic is one of the biggest labels. and the fact is cam got like a 2.5 million dollar advance which means that has to be recouped before he makes any more money from the label or gets any royalty checks. a.ssuming he has some type of joint venture deal he probably wont see a royalty check until his second album on atlantic.

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cause he signed a 2.5 million ONE ALBUM deal with ASYLUM/WARNER BROS not atlantic...and ASYLUM is like Koch instead of major...they provide promotion for finished product...so he doesnt have to worry about royalites and advances because they had nothing to do with the prodcution of the album therefore....


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he doesnt have to recoup because he doesnt have the typical artist deal...he either has P and D deals, joint ventures, or paid proggram deals....he makes 2 or 3 dolars from the fisrt records sold and doesnt have to recoup to make back any money - XXL June 2005


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 12 years ago '04        #91
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To be honest moving 114,000 units in 1 week with mp3 downloading on the web being at an all time high is really tight naw mean. Dipset all day. 100

 12 years ago '04        #92
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First of all Warner/Asylum isn't an indie label and these album sells aren't good. They weren't good for Mobb Deep and they aren't for Cam. Next week he'll probably sell around 60,000. Cam is an established artist, who went platinum before. Hell Purple Haze went close to gold off no promotion, because Rocafella was being broken up and he was leaving the label. They didn't even release the Kanye video, until radio started playing it.

Next that $8 is misleading that people say they make at Koch, because that doesn't include the studio time, videos, marketing, blah blah that they have to pay to the label. So it doesn't end up being $8 an album.

 12 years ago '05        #93
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 JohnDillinger said
cam= independant if he sellin his sh*t out the trunk of his car he still gotta pay people but he take home alot more of the profit all he gotta pay for is beats wich he mostly uses upstart beatmakers who dont charge as much as say dr. dre or just blaze and then to make and distribute wich is about 2-3 dollars a cd if he sell his cd at 14.99 at the end of the day he taking home
7-8 dollars a cd

So at 14.99 which no one sells for that price the first week, so it's 9.99, the shipping company, ex. Fedex, the label, and the store only has rounded up $2 to work with and cam gets $8. <----Now that's a bad man....fu*k outta here. The only muthafu*ka that got a deal like that was Master P, and he got 75% because he had his own marketing money.

 12 years ago '06        #94
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[QUOTE


and thats with no fu*king single, no promo, no nothing

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ACTUALLY FAM... SUCK IT OR NOT WAS A SINGLE FROM k!llA SEASON... GET EM DADDY REMIX WAS ALSO A SINGLE FROM k!llA SEASON.. k!llA SEASON WAS ALSO A SINGLE FROM k!llA SEASON... EVERYTIME U SAW OR HEARD CAM HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT THAT MOVIE SO DONT SAY THAT CAME WIT NO PROMO OR NOTHIN... IF THAT WAS THE CASE ONLY n*ggaS IN HARLEM WOULD OWN k!llA SEASON.. THINK ABOUT IT CUZ U SOUND LIKE U RIDIN DIP d*ck ...

 05-28-2006, 07:11 PM         #95
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^^^And Those Singles, None Of Them Were Heavily Played Especially Were I Am At, Only True To Life Fans & People With The Internet Heard Cam's Album Here, Dudes Didn't Even Know It Dropped

 05-28-2006, 08:41 PM         #96
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^^ because no one cares....

 05-28-2006, 09:43 PM         #97
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 ItsYaboyJay said
^^^And Those Singles, None Of Them Were Heavily Played Especially Were I Am At, Only True To Life Fans & People With The Internet Heard Cam's Album Here, Dudes Didn't Even Know It Dropped

People Dont play songs that no one likes....duh

 05-28-2006, 11:04 PM         #98
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 johnnyblaze924 said
hes on Asylum which is like a Koch type label setup by Warner Bros....and secondly Mobb Deep is on Gunit(the highest selling music conglamorate in the industry right now) they should have done alot more numbers than that, third even though wet wipes/touch it is a single ive NEVER heard it on the radio or seen it on anything but rap city, lastly yeah he did put in alot of promotinal work so to say he did it without marketing is wrong, but he had no single
I do agree that there was a gimmick towards selling the album k!lla Season... with the
jay-Z diss that had nothing to do with anything...and the movie too......
but please!!! Lets not talk about how hard G-Unit artists have FLOPPED!!! did Lloyd Banks ever get passed gold? and how long did it take if so?.....
Is Game apart of G-Unit now? The second highest selling album on G-Unit under 50 Cent who he is now beefed out with?(G UNOT!!!! yeah he said he not gone talk about 50 cent no more in 360 bars...but u already...)
Didn't Tony Yayo flop harder than Sabonis drawing fouls before retiring from Portland TrailBlazers, wit that weak a.ss album?....
Did Olivia ever drop her album? and if so didn't it take like a year for it to drop after the first single feat. Lloyd Banks??
Will Spider Loc weak a.ss get to drop his album in "December of 08??" LOL.
Mobb Deep flops...
Sam Scarfo will flop...
Mase will flop....
what happ to MOP???
only clout G-Unit has is 50 Cent, Young Buck, and former member The Game, the three artists who sold the most out of G-Unit, 50 selling the most with both GRODT, and Massecre...

 12 years ago '04        #99
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lmao @ "no promotion" there ads everywhere around here, and all that jay-z beef was all a gimick like 50 cent to nas, fat joe, etc.

 12 years ago '04        #100
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 fu*ker said
Dipset is just a fad. They promote a gimmick, a style, everything except good music.
uhhh?? Dipset's been around for a minute cuz....nota fad...fads are shortlived...Dipset is getting longevity....plus with the range of everything from R&B singers to UK rappers?? Come on...Dipset is here to stay....Like it or not..

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