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 12 years ago '05        #26
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lmao at n*ggas gettin robbed in canada
i don't know anyone who knows anyone who got robbed by a canuck and i live on the border.
if i knew someone who got robbed by a canuck i'd clown them for life

maybe some white people but not no n*ggas from the d gettin robbed by no canucks

thanks for the heads up tho. gotta have one of my canadian n*ggas hook me up with a pistol for while i'm up there

 12 years ago '04        #27
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All this did was warn the other gangs in Toronto , hahah at "15 kilograms" and "20 Guns" and "100,000 in cash". They must have pocketed some of this sh*t. It should be like a kilo for each dude and like 2 million cash, forget 15 kilos for 100 people.

 05-19-2006, 03:01 PM         #28
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dumbass losers ...... thats what they get for not living like normal people....... getting a fair education and job............ just dumbasses giving shame to a country............. i swear the cops should have the right to shoot these brain dead fu*ks off the street............ and the citizens act like cops are bad, :wtf: if you wanna be some "Thug" you deserve to get treated like sh*t and fu*ked up ..........

 05-19-2006, 03:25 PM         #29
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 beatboyheatboy said
lmao at n*ggas gettin robbed in canada
i don't know anyone who knows anyone who got robbed by a canuck and i live on the border.
if i knew someone who got robbed by a canuck i'd clown them for life

maybe some white people but not no n*ggas from the d gettin robbed by no canucks

thanks for the heads up tho. gotta have one of my canadian n*ggas hook me up with a pistol for while i'm up there
Its possible to get robbed pretty much anywhere if you in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just ask MOP, they got robbed in Toronto. Redman was robbed many years ago in Toronto too.

 12 years ago '05        #30
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must i remind yall as well there are carribeans in toronto......that means it can get on and poppin

 12 years ago '04        #31
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First of all, every post I see from this dude seems like in one way or another is trying to promote how hard Toronto..

no one cares about this once in a while a.ss sh*t, I've had raids done on the projects i lived in (12 buildings.. about 800 tenants) that exceed high numbers than this..

murderes, Robbery's.. it happens everywhere. It aint nothing new. Are yall trynna prove something? Yall wanna be the New York of Canada?
Canada is where people go after they retire down here.. haha, im not hatin but its crazyy how yall talking all this crazy sh*t, and have so little to show for it.

 12 years ago '04        #32
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 razorsharp said
Its possible to get robbed pretty much anywhere if you in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just ask MOP, they got robbed in Toronto. Redman was robbed many years ago in Toronto too.
Ask bootcamp too they got robbed too when they came to MTL... Starang even mentions it in one of his songs i dont remember wich one...

 05-19-2006, 05:39 PM         #33
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 kokaine said
dumbass losers ...... thats what they get for not living like normal people....... getting a fair education and job............ just dumbasses giving shame to a country............. i swear the cops should have the right to shoot these brain dead fu*ks off the street............ and the citizens act like cops are bad, :wtf: if you wanna be some "Thug" you deserve to get treated like sh*t and fu*ked up ..........
:applause:

real talk!!!!!

grow a braincell and grow the fuk up.....

 12 years ago '05        #34
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 farrockmardarah said
lol, toronto aint hard f*g**ts. get that straight


lol at 52 murders a year inb such a huge city. this f*g**ts strugglin to convince us toronto be on some la or chicago tip.

never that
yeah that something to be proud of...fukin dumbass little kids proud of the fact that there city has a high crime rate

 05-19-2006, 05:42 PM         #35
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Damn, why r so many ppl hatin cuz of sum news....for canada thats big news.
And why's everyone sayin they're all soft and sh*t, ur all just hatin cuz these ppl r tryin to get sum money. Theres a word for that, hater.

 12 years ago '04        #36
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u just cant arrest everybody and hold em on those charges sh*ts just not right. out of them 80 dudes i bet that at least half of them didnt do any of those charges.

 05-19-2006, 05:55 PM         #37
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 C.R.I.P. said
u just cant arrest everybody and hold em on those charges sh*ts just not right. out of them 80 dudes i bet that at least half of them didnt do any of those charges.
very true. probably close to 50% or more of these people will be released. the Toronto cops hav done this before to the Malvern Crew, Galloway Boyz, Ardwick Bloods, and some of those sri lankan gangs. And every time a lot of the dudes they arrest get their charges dropped. Some of them will be locked up for sure, but for many of them the only way the charges will stick is if they admit to doin some illegal sh*t, which aint gonna happen. Just last night I was watchin the news and they were talking to a woman and her family who are pretty pissed off about their house being raided, cause they had nothin to do with this sh*t. Cops trashed their house and apparently put a gun in the face of a 5 year old.

 05-19-2006, 07:03 PM         #38
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To that cat that posted about no bloods in MTL. The Crack Down Posse and the Bo Gars adapted the colours, bloods and crips later on, they were there long before the colours, just like street gangs out in T.O. You don't know the city. Not all Hatians and other street gangs in Montreal answer to Hells Angels. Bo Gars are trying to take over downtown for drug trafiicing. The Syndicates they are a black gang doing the dirt for the Hells Angels, since the HA are way to smart to do the dirt themselves after all those raids and some of their key leaders goin to jail for life. Every city they got street gangs doing their dirt for them. If you think that every street gang is connected to the bikers you are mistaken, the bikers took out a lot of gangs that didn;t want to co-operate, but they were very careful with The Montreal Italian Mafia, with the Triads and other crews. The East Indians don't work with them in Vancouver, neither do many of the Jamaican, Hatian crews out here, they got their own means of getting those drugs. Jamaican posses are serious too.


"Observers on the Main say that the f!ght is between the "Blacks," a "B" team loyal to the mainly Haitian Bo-Gars gang, and the "Backers," another gang loyal to Greg Wooley's "Syndicate." While Wooley, the only black man ever to become a full-patch Hells Angel, remains in jail waiting to be tried for murder, police sources still believe that the Syndicate has maintained its link with the Hells. Police have been waiting for trouble to break out between Montreal's different street gangs for some time."





In terms of the article, regardless if its big news in the U.S. or not, this is big news for Toronto.

 12 years ago '04        #39
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 razorsharp said
very true. probably close to 50% or more of these people will be released. the Toronto cops hav done this before to the Malvern Crew, Galloway Boyz, Ardwick Bloods, and some of those sri lankan gangs. And every time a lot of the dudes they arrest get their charges dropped. Some of them will be locked up for sure, but for many of them the only way the charges will stick is if they admit to doin some illegal sh*t, which aint gonna happen. Just last night I was watchin the news and they were talking to a woman and her family who are pretty pissed off about their house being raided, cause they had nothin to do with this sh*t. Cops trashed their house and apparently put a gun in the face of a 5 year old.
Thats because the Canadian Judicial system is all screwed up. For the dude who says fu*k the Police... you need to check your head or grow up. You have no idea how much safer that made those areas and the streets of Toronto in general. It is apparent that there are a lot of ignorant people on boxden especially those who think crime and murders in my city or any city is something to be proud of. I hope it never gets the anywhere near the murder rates or total murders as Chicago even though Toronto is pretty much the same size as Chicago.

 05-19-2006, 07:05 PM         #40
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 razorsharp said
very true. probably close to 50% or more of these people will be released. the Toronto cops hav done this before to the Malvern Crew, Galloway Boyz, Ardwick Bloods, and some of those sri lankan gangs. And every time a lot of the dudes they arrest get their charges dropped. Some of them will be locked up for sure, but for many of them the only way the charges will stick is if they admit to doin some illegal sh*t, which aint gonna happen. Just last night I was watchin the news and they were talking to a woman and her family who are pretty pissed off about their house being raided, cause they had nothin to do with this sh*t. Cops trashed their house and apparently put a gun in the face of a 5 year old.
The courts are flooded, half of the charges won't stick. Four major gang bust dating 3 years and most of them haven't even gone to trial. They will get double time served for pre trial custody, and be out within a year or two, when they out they will just be more deadly. This sh*t won't solve nothing, just looks good on paper.

 12 years ago '04        #41
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 OldeEnglish22oz said
man this is Canada we talking about...
someone throws a rock thru a car window and it'll be considered a big crime news....
lmao.

 12 years ago '06        #42
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SO for the people from these areas in Canada can you give us a break down of the gang culture out there. I mean im from LA and Ive never seen real white bloods or crips. Samoans? of course. We got those latino gangs yall already know. and yes the korean, filipino, and what have you.
So give us a rundown. like with the names and sh*t. My ex was indian and she said a lot of cousins got k!lled in vancouver over some indian punjabi gang sh*t. what is that gang culture like? im curious.

peace

 12 years ago '04        #43
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all i gotta say is BLAME CANADA......

 12 years ago '04        #44
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fu*k a gang

 12 years ago '05        #45
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in canada, the gangs aren't based on bloods and crips, its more based on territory, the hood/project you live in has conflict with another hood. I live in the city. And to the people who seem to want to downplay toronto's "hardness" there would be a lot more murders, not sayin I wantthat if guns were was easy to get and keep legally, as they are in the states.

 12 years ago '04        #46
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lolllll

 05-20-2006, 06:17 AM         #47
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 DominicanLou said
SO for the people from these areas in Canada can you give us a break down of the gang culture out there.

peace
Pubdate: Fri, 30 Dec 2005
Source: National Post (Canada)

'MOST DANGEROUS GANG' IN U.S. TAKES ROOT HERE

MS-13 Notorious For behe@ding Its Victims


Their names sound as benign as any high school sports team, but their
presence is increasingly deadly.

Some of Toronto's 70-plus identified street gangs have worked their
way into the public realm through arrests or their own bloody acts of
aggression, such as the Galloway Boys, Malvern Crew, Ardwick Blood
Crew and the Jamestown Crips.

Others are known only on the streets and inside newly created but
confidential police files: Block-13, The Gatorz, Chalkfarm Bloods and
Five Point Generalz among them, several street and police sources
tell the National Post.

Perhaps the most alarming development in the terra incognita that is
Toronto's emerging gangland, however, is the confirmed presence here
of the MS-13, or the Mara Salvatrucha, a gang whose parent group in
the United States has been called "the most dangerous gang in America."

MS-13 was originally formed in Los Angeles by young men who fled the
civil strife in El Salvador. The new immigrants were being terrorized
by established street gangs and banded together, first for
self-protection and later, recognizing their growing strength, as aggressors.

When several of the original members were deported, it gave the gang
instant operatives in numerous Central American countries who helped
build drug- and people-smuggling routes.

In the United States, the gang is notorious for behe@ding its victims
and for directly confronting police officers with high-powered guns.

There has been nothing of that nature from the group of MS-13 in
Toronto, but officers have confirmed its worrisome presence.

"It is the same gang. They are showing up here. It is difficult to
tell exactly how affiliated they are because they are just starting
to emerge here," said Detective-Sergeant Doug Quan, head of the gang
section in Toronto police's Gun and Gang Task Force.

"Our intelligence shows that they are here and they are affiliated to
the U.S. MS-13," he said.

The Toronto version of MS-13 has a presence in the west side of the
city's downtown.

It has remained true to its roots and is comprised almost exclusively
of young men of Latin American origin.

The emergence of new gangs and new information coming to light on
older, more established street gangs leaves police gang officers
chasing a moving target.

Officers have identified more than 70 street gangs in Toronto, but
only about 25 of them have escalated in police eyes to becoming
serious criminal gangs, the likes of which would be covered by
Canada's anti-gang laws.

These laws were designed to tackle Mafia groups and outlaw motorcycle
gangs like the Hells Angels -- criminal organizations that remain far
above the street gangs in terms of criminal scope and sophistication.

Toronto street gangs have perhaps 1,800 to 2,000 members and
associates, police say. Gang size ranges from groups of 10 members
who seek to control a single housing complex, a street or a park to
some with 40 or more members who seek a wider territory for drug sales.

The members are typically between the ages of 16 and 25.

Some of the more established gangs have members in their 30s or 40s,
who are often seen as "elder statesmen," advising young gangsters
while avoiding street confrontations, police say.

Some gangs have formal induction ceremonies, while others maintain an
informal structure based on personal friendships.

"There are internal hierarchies and designated leaders and informal
leaders," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Some gangs force members to pay dues, some have a formal system of
contributing to pay other members' legal bills. Some even have war
chests to support the families of members who are jailed. Some have
defined meetings at specific locations and times, while others just
seem to hang around together.

"It varies from gang to gang. Some have identifiable colours,
tattoos, almost a uniform but others adopt bits and pieces, a hybrid
of American street gang culture," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Many gangs evolved from young men going to school together or growing
up in a neighbourhood together. As children they get into a little
trouble, perhaps commit petty crimes together and form a bond.

They then start to hook up with other like-minded young people, and
their network expands. A stint in jail also introduces them to gang leaders.

The gangs have traditionally retained an ethnic component -- groups
of Tamils or Jamaican immigrants, for instance, but that is changing.
The gangs are starting to embrace Canada's multicultural ethos and
police are finding white, black and Asian members in the same gang. A
person's perceived loyalty to the group and criminal contribution are
becoming more important than race.

As in the United States, the city's gangs have broken into two
primary gang alliances, called the Bloods and the Crips, named for
the rival Los Angeles street gangs that first used the names.

The original founders of many of Toronto's gangs picked which of the
gangs they liked and chose to affiliate with that culture, Det.-Sgt.
Quan said. Since then, some have built relationships with their U.S.
counterparts.

"Some have family or cousins or friends involved in gangs in the
States and there are some direct connections between, say, a
Chicago-based Blood gang that directly deals with a Toronto-based
Blood gang," he said.

Many Toronto street gangs affiliate themselves to both one of the
colossal U.S. gangs and to a tiny patch of Toronto turf. A gang like
the Ardwick Blood Crew takes its name from the Ardwick townhouse
complex many members once lived in and also their affiliation with the Bloods.

Generally speaking, Bloods are rivals of Crips or, more accurately, a
Bloods gang will typically support another Bloodsgang and the same
for the Crips gangs.

But if their territories come into conflict, money and the need for
"respect" trumps all allegiances and blood will inevitably be shed.

"They are just so bold and so young and they make dreadful mistakes
trying to establish themselves," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Those mistakes are increasingly causing alarm in Toronto as innocent
bystanders are being caught in the crossfire.

Police find the gangs all seem to have at least one thing in common:
"Drug trafficking fuels just about everything," he said.


 05-20-2006, 06:29 AM         #48
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Police name gang's gun runner
Some gang leaders previously jailed
Several appear on hip-hop DVD
Brantford man in U.S. prison
Illegal weapons came from Texas


May 20, 2006. 08:00 AM
BETSY POWELL AND JOHN DUNCANSON
STAFF REPORTERS

A Canadian resident serving time in a U.S. penitentiary for trafficking guns was one of the main suppliers of firepower to the Jamestown Crew, the west-end street gang whose members and a.ssociates were rounded up during the largest anti-gang sweep in the city's history.

Police sources say gang members were driving to the Six Nations Reserve near Brantford and buying guns from Earle Cooke, now serving time in an Oklahoma prison.

It's one of the new details to emerge in the aftermath of Thursday's pre-dawn raids, which saw the arrest of 106 people who now face more than 1,000 criminal charges in what police describe as a major offensive meant to curb Toronto gun violence. At least 24 of the 33 weapons and three replicas seized were loaded. Eight people remain at large.

During the investigation, police uncovered plots for several murders that they were able to prevent, said Toronto Police Insp. Greg Getty, who ran the operation.

Police yesterday released the names of most of the accused, some of them leaders of the Jamestown Crew, affiliated with the Crips, a criminal street gang that originated in Los Angeles in the late 1960s.

Many of the accused were well known to police and have lengthy records.

Not included in the released list was the name of a man who police allege was running the Jamestown gang from prison: Jermaine "J-Bug" or "Bugs" Grant, who is serving an eight-year prison sentence for firearms offences.

Oliver Augustus Willis is another reputed leader not on the list. He is already in custody after being charged last year with numerous weapons offences. In 2003, Willis saw a charge of first-degree murder against him withdrawn after two key prosecution witnesses refused to testify.

Included on the list was 29-year-old Kevin Latchana, who is facing 31 charges, including participating in a criminal organization and trafficking in cocaine. In 1997, the Ontario Court of Appeal dismissed charges against him of attempted murder, use of a firearm and aggravated a.ssault, after the complainant recanted his story.

The Crown proffered the theory that the complainant recanted under coercion and threats from the accused and his street gang. The complainant himself had a long record of convictions, and the court found he lacked credibility.

Two other men, Khumane Anim Agil, 26, and Marcus Cave, 25, both charged Thursday with participating in a criminal organization, were charged last November after a pistol loaded with armour-piercing bullets was seized.

Several of those charged appeared in a hip-hop compilation DVD called Premiere Edition 2, which chronicles gang culture through interviews and rap tunes. The DVD has already been used in the Crown's case against Grant.

The 1,000 criminal charges laid in the raids include participating in a criminal organization, attempted murder, trafficking in drugs and firearms charges. More arrests are expected in what some fear may become an unwieldy court case.

But police say such operations are the only way to combat gang violence, and they vow to take down gangs neighbourhood by neighbourhood.

They point to three previous gang sweeps — Projects Impact, Pathfinder and Flicker — which restored peace in Scarborough and Rexdale communities under siege by gang violence.

"We will be continuing to follow up in the communities to ensure that communities feel safe and see a large presence of police officers, to ensure that we maintain the peace and nobody jumps in to fill the void that we created here," Deputy Chief Tony Warr told another packed news conference yesterday.

Also in attendance was Insp. Steve Clegg of the Provincial Weapons Enforcement Unit, who declared that the collaborative investigation had "dealt a significant blow to a firearms trafficking network operating in southern Ontario."

However, he didn't elaborate about the inner workings of the gun pipeline or how the guns were smuggled into the country. He did say guns used by gang members here originated in Houston, Texas.

Getty added that 180 firearms "were sourced from Texas and other locations being utilized by this distribution network into Canada."

Other than Cooke, no other Six Nations residents have been implicated in the illegal operation. However, nine arrests were made in nearby Brantford, where gang members have been living, said Brantford Police Insp. Scott Easto. Brantford police were involved in the raid.

"Some (newly arrived gang members) have moved here from Toronto, and have addresses here and addresses in both places (Brantford and Toronto)," Easto said.

Among those believed to have been arrested was a young offender who moved from Jamestown to Brantford, police allege, to sell cocaine and escape a deadly vendetta with the rival Ardwick Blood Crew.

Toronto police first stumbled across Cooke's gun-running business in 2003, when several guns he had supplied to criminals were recovered and traced back to purchases he had made while living in Texas.

Police here contacted their counterparts with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

What U.S. investigators found was that although the man lived on the Six Nations reserve in Ohsweken, he claimed to have resided in Texas. Cooke bought firearms from gun shops in Houston and listed Houston addresses as his home. It's a crime in the U.S. to falsify firearms paperwork.

The ATF moved in on Oct 21, 2003, as Cooke returned to Texas from Ontario. He was convicted and sent to prison for a year in November 2005. But court documents show that he didn't begin serving his sentence until February of this year.

The massive police investigation into the Jamestown Crew was well underway by that point, culminating in the arrests this week.

The Toronto Police Service's anti-gang offensive was called Project x*x, symbolizing three previous gang-and-gun investigations that led to hundreds of arrests over the past two years.

The investigation began last fall, right after Toronto police swooped down on the tiny community of Ardwick, home to Jamestown rivals Ardwick Blood Crew.

Toronto police were joined by more than 600 officers from other forces, including Durham, York and Brantford. Even police from Montreal and the RCMP took part. Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair said it was the largest raid of its kind in the force's history.

"This is just the first phase in restoring the neighbourhood of Rexdale as well as neighbourhoods through the Greater Toronto Area."

Even before Project x*x was launched last fall, Toronto police were examining seized firearms linked to crimes allegedly committed by the gang's members and a.ssociates. Of those, 50 guns were traced back to Cooke, said a police source.

Twenty-four firearms seized in the raids were displayed at police headquarters yesterday, including shotguns, handguns, machine pistols and an AK-47 a.ssault rifle.

Also seized were more than 15 kilograms of cocaine and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash.

With files by Richard Brennan and Peter Edwards


 05-20-2006, 06:32 AM         #49
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Jamestown Crew had links to L.A. gang
Targets of police raids


Natalie Alcoba
National Post

Saturday, May 20, 2006

The Jamestown street gang dismantled early on Thursday in a raid modelled itself after the notorious L.A. Crips and imported its weaponry from Texas, Toronto police said yesterday.

Investigators gave reporters a post-mortem on the raid, which resulted in than 100 people from as far away as Kingston and Montreal making court appearances yesterday.

The Jamestown Crips -- based in a Rexdale public housing complex and also known as the Jamestown Crew -- are now "basically defunct," police say. In total, 106 people have been arrested and eight fugitives are being sought.

A 14-year-old young offender has been charged with attempted murder.

Police said the raids were the first step in a plan to "restore" the Martingrove Road and Finch Avenue neighbourhood.

"This will give the community a sense of security and safety that has been lacking in the last few years," Deputy Chief Tony Warr said yesterday. "The Jamestown Crew, or the Jamestown Crips ... have held this area in fear, for a long, long time."

Police say the Jamestown Crips modelled themselves after the notorious Crips gangs that originated in the Los Angeles slums.

The local members grew up together in the Jamestown Crescent public housing complex. With time, the gang's control over the neighbourhood -- and the fear it perpetuated -- also grew, police say.

Some of those arrested this week are accused of trying to k!ll rivals. Police say disputes over turf or over property -- which includes women -- often result in shootings.

But it is also about saving face. "If a gang member has been publicly disrespected, there must be retaliation," said Staff Superintendent Richard Gauthier, in charge of Toronto police's detective services unit.

The "diss" can come in the form of a look, or a walk through a known gang area wearing an opposing gang's colours.

The Jamestown Crips are alleged to have been involved in drug and gun smuggling.

Inspector Steve Clegg, from the Ontario Provincial Police Weapons Enforcement Unit, said Thursday's raids dealt a "significant blow" to a gun-trafficking network that originated in Houston. There, a criminal organization with ties to the Jamestown Crips is alleged to have exported at least 180 firearms to Canada -- and into the hands of various gangs. Twenty-four of those firearms have been seized, Insp. Clegg said yesterday, many of them from individuals arrested this week.

Inspector Greg Getty, who led Thursday's raids, said they were part of a concerted effort to clean up the city's streets. "I would love to be able to stand here today and tell you that these are all of the firearms in possession of all the gangs in Toronto. I'd be lying," he said. "But we are going to continue to work with our partners to dismantle each and every one of them, one neighbourhood at a time."



BY THE NUMBERS

1,000 plus charges laid

8 municipalities in which search warrants were executed, 83 of the warrants were in Toronto

24 women arrested

72 men arrested

10 youths arrested

36 firearms confiscated, including 24 handguns, 1 a.ssault rifle, 3 machine pistols and 3 replicas

C$339,000 seized

US$50,000 seized

4 vehicles seized

Ran with fact box "By the Numbers" which has been appended to the story.
© National Post 2006


 12 years ago '04        #50
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 liljohnson said
Bloods > Crips
Adults > you

Get a life little n*gga

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