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 05-08-2006, 07:48 PM         #76
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The day that NY gets back to its roots is the day that dudes start to man up and stop saying *NO HOMO* after every little thing.

And you can pin the downfall of NY rap on 50 or Cam'ron or whoever. Pick your particular scapegoat but the fact of the matter is NY rap did it to itself. It didn't happen because G-Unit or Dipset or whoever came out. It didn't just happen. This was a process that happened gradually over time.

The fallout between Jay-Z and Dame & the "death of a Dynasty" is a result of it.
The fall of the Source is a result of it.
The rash of shootings outside of Hot 97 is a result of it.

NY n!ggaz are frustrated and like one poster said, Ghostface is just speaking what everybody else is thinking.

Even though NY is still the biggest producer of rap and have been since hip-hop began, it's going to take a while to get its reputation back.

 12 years ago '04        #77
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 CentsCuZ said
When Ghostface says it everyone agrees, but when 50 Cent says it, he's a lame.

Stop the hypocrisy properly.
I agree with your comment homie.....BUT.....

the thing with 50 though is, he isn't trying to help Hip Hop like he says, he is only thinking about himself, if he really spoke his mind, he'd say "all you hear on the radio is that southern hip hop, I say we play some more G-Unit music." This is the same dude that didn't like the whole Jay-Z/Nas squashing of beef and is now following the Ja Rule formula....the very same formula that he clowned Ja about.

You are right about people ragging on 50's comments, 50 spoke on this subject a few months ago, I remember reading the damn article, but 50 won't speak on it too much longer....he's hoping to help Young Buck build a good G-Unit South roster. 50 will be sounding hypcritical if that G-Unit South thing gets poppin off.....

 05-08-2006, 08:00 PM         #78
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this is a good article

 12 years ago '04        #79
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fu*k the radio!
turn that sh*t off
the radio is what has ruined hip-hop
it aint no east west beefs, or any beefin between rappers
the radio stations are the enemy, most of them are owned by clear channel and have set playlists that most record labels pay for
all their music sucks anyways and every1 knows if u hear something u hate enough times it will grow on you.
every1 needs to just turn it off, buy satelite radio, and cut out the bullsh*t

 12 years ago '05        #80
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good read if a n*gga from the west or south woulda said this, n*ggaz woulda been like fu*k the south/west......n*ggaz make me laugh folk.

 05-08-2006, 08:09 PM         #81
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thats some real a.ss sh*t

 12 years ago '05        #82
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 fu*kingbastard said
50 shows no loyalty to NY as he is writing checks to southern rap talent using southern rap lyrics and was put on by a west coast mastermind (dre)... so it doesn't matter much what crooked jaw words he speaks in dj interviews

50 put himself on.......did his own thing...killed the mixtape market....went on his own club tour....all of this b4 his album came out off his mixtape songs...he paid his dues on that note.....and he is a mastermind of gettin great talent from all regions to cake off of.......50 can do riddle raps now if he wants he is running the show! ! ! dre didnt put him on.......his album was done b4 aftermath/....and i give shady more propz for 50 success

that dj sh*t ghost was sayin about probably is true....but ny aint hating on south music...the south gettin big headed tho..... music is music ...if it buzz's it buzz's if it plays on hot 97 its gonna buzz regardless....we make and break


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 05-08-2006, 08:37 PM         #83
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fu*k the South.

 12 years ago '04        #84
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 Killa #4 said
i thought he said fu*k the hood
Damn who is this guy

 05-08-2006, 09:00 PM         #85
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he is an idiot

 05-08-2006, 09:02 PM         #86
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I don't understand why dudes are saying all New York rappers talk about is "guns and drugs", that's all every rapper talks about. I bet you if you pull up the lyrics to every rappers discographies you will seen that every rapper talks about "Violence, Drugs, Guns, Money and s3x", just because Southern cats don't play that mostly on the radio, well I can't even say that remember "Bia Bia", "And Then What", and "Grindin" I could continue for days, but those are all Southern cats. So that argument is deaded.


Secondly the hip-hop culture may have started in New York, but rhyming over beats has been used to tell stories by Africans and Jamaicans poetically (Note: "Rap" is "Rhythm and Poetry") for centuries that is part of African Culture so quit acting like yall (New York) own the rights to rhyming over beats or something yall just modernized it.

Third most all the songs played on the radio are bullsh*t and that is because elementary school girls that learned how to f*ck before they learned how to cook are called and requesting songs such as "Laffy TaffY" because people parenting skills suck these days and they allow their young daughters to listen to whatever, so of course those songs are going to be the most requested. It's deeper than rap, rap was birthed from the streets and if the streets don't have no principles anymore then rap won't either. In Laymans Terms, if the game is f*cked up on the streets the game is going to be f*cked up in rap because that's where the artists and fans are from, except for the most of the Suburban kids that are new to the culture that don't know any better .

Fourth rap is all politics now since Cooperate America then took over, they do million-dollar studies on what will catch peoples attention the easiest. They know if you play music while trying to advertise something that people will most likely go and purchase it. That's why they keep these rappers rhyming over simple catchy beat, rapping simple and catchy about Ice, Dope, Cars, Houses, Women and Guns, the five biggest markets in America. CIA brought the dope to America (research this), who owns all the Car companies in America?!, who owns the Real Estate and Houses in America?! Who Are Their Investors?! (The Bank) Who Owns The Banks?! Who Imports The Diamonds?! Who Mines The Diamonds?! And Who Throw Their Lives Away Selling Dope To buy the Diamonds?! Who Do They Get The Dope From?! Why Do They Want The Diamonds?! (The Women) Who buys the real copies of the albums?! (The Women) Who votes for the music?! Man I could go super deep into....but all I trying to say is stop blaming everybody if you are not doing nothing to change this if you not trying to change it, shut and accept it and continue doing you because crying on a message board to a bunch of chil'lins with biased opinions that think that their words are the most high is not going to do anything. Give Hate If You Like It Won't Make Me or Break Me! Peace!

 12 years ago '05        #87
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real talk, he is speaking the truth.

 05-08-2006, 09:16 PM         #88
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wu tang forever

 05-08-2006, 09:28 PM         #89
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NY has fallen off but u cant say NY wack and think n*ggas like lil wayne and paul wall got real lyrical content cuz they makin paper...lil jon dont even fu*kin rap and he makin paper that dont make a n*gga a good rapper cuz he makin paper it jus mean he got a good hustle cuz the appealing to the masses and the masses dont want lyrics, they wanna a chick to shake he laffy taffy...at least the n*ggas who still spittin from NY got real lyrics and not jus sh*t that u bump in the club...the greatest on top of the game 4 always and 4ever have come from the great state of NY or somewhere up North close 2 it

 05-08-2006, 09:39 PM         #90
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I am from the south and for years I was raised and almost only listened to NY hip hop, Previously it was said in this thread that Southern Hip Hop shows lack of creativity. BS I for one think that this is the true reason why Southern Rap is so popular. NY hip hop is so commercial and watered down with love songs and pop hooks that the true hip hop fans grow tired. Southern hip hop has always offered an alternative and in no way sounds like anything else. Its fresh and doesnt have a sample track every other song you hear. Southern rap is showing its wings and its just the natural transition from used to be East to West and West to East but now its moved East to South.

Natural Selction in music

 05-08-2006, 09:45 PM         #91
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That's why I respect other states, man. New York, I don't know -- for
some reason we started to get really soft. And now we act like we want
that real hip-hop back, when our fu*king deejays is only programmed to
play what they playing. They playing more other people's sh*t than our
own sh*t. n*ggas is screaming that real hip-hop -- we trying to bring
it back but we can't even play that real hip-hop on the radio.
what is this? hmmmm....

 12 years ago '04        #92
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damn ghost on some sh*t!

 12 years ago '06        #93
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Real talk from a real dude...

 12 years ago '05        #94
§wiff 
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New York>>>Ghostface

 12 years ago '05        #95
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good read...

 12 years ago '04        #96
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NY IS JUST LIKE CHITOWN THESE PUNKASS RADIO STATIONS AND CLUB DJ'S JUST BE PUTTING THIS DIRTY SOUTH sh*t............THEY DONT SUPPORT THEIR OWN fu*kING CITY.............................................. ..

THATS WHY MY MIXTAPES HAVE EVERYTHING............

 05-09-2006, 12:37 AM         #97
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yeah, n*ggas should listen to i think its called "Salute" by AZ
he kinda talks about this sh*t

 12 years ago '04        #98
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fu*k NEW YORK, NEVER!!! LO fu*k MUSIC YES!!! WHY? because of the bullsh*t thats out, I agree with Ghost!!! Music hip hop is fu*kED UP RIGHT NOW!!!! GOT DANE!

 12 years ago '04        #99
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this n*gga jus tired of gettin smacked the fu*k upp at every club in new york.. werd upp

ny hip hop has died.. but dont say fu*k NY as a state, cause n*ggas will ride on him AS SOON as his dirty a.ss hop off Staten Island into any other boro. thas a true story.

 05-09-2006, 03:44 AM         #100
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 LitO said
this n*gga jus tired of gettin smacked the fu*k upp at every club in new york.. werd upp

ny hip hop has died.. but dont say fu*k NY as a state, cause n*ggas will ride on him AS SOON as his dirty a.ss hop off Staten Island into any other boro. thas a true story.
word??? Just for making a statement? REAL headz would know that he's only venting out his anger that way... i doubt anything will pop off,s imply because he's saying NY should be at the top. Only dudes who don't understand that would pop off at him...

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