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ONE bar is equal to...
ONE line. 34 33.33%
TWO lines. 51 50.00%
i have no fuckin idea... 5 4.90%
i THOUGHT i knew... but not sure anymore. 12 11.76%
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 12 years ago '04        #51
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 Jamaro85 said
So basically you're saying that this would be 4 lines, aka 2 bars, in terms of the writing format:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads
Fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old
School n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

As opposed to:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

So basically that should be formatted into 4 lines?

if your talkin to me, no i didnt say that

its right like he wrote it cause he inner rhymes

so

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

would be the correct way

 12 years ago '04        #52
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 EmpTClip said
if your talkin to me, no i didnt say that

its right like he wrote it cause he inner rhymes

so

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

would be the correct way
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...

 12 years ago '04        #53
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 Jamaro85 said
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...

nah man its two lines, rappers rhyme differently nas for instance has a unique inner rhyming style so he puts more multis into ONE bar, most ppl would try to break that up into four bars but its two

every true emcee i know thats been doin this rap thing including myself for 6-7+yrs knows that its 1=1, not 1=2


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 04-28-2006, 07:07 PM         #54
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 Jamaro85 said
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...
in terms of poetry....im pretty sure that would be 4 lines. id have to hear the song as to how that would be split up.

what song is it?

 12 years ago '04        #55
Jamaro85 
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 Arkanjal said
in terms of poetry....im pretty sure that would be 4 lines. id have to hear the song as to how that would be split up.

what song is it?
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits

 04-28-2006, 07:14 PM         #56
Arkanjal  OP
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 Jamaro85 said
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits
I rap for listeners // bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders // and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the

4 lines....2 bars.

people are stuck on thinking a "line" is a "rhyme". every line doesnt ahve to rhyme.....typically, every bar does though.

 12 years ago '04        #57
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 Jamaro85 said
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits
didnt know you were refering to poetry when you asked that my bad...

but in hip hop form its correct like he put it

 12 years ago '04        #58
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SONGS WOULD BE SHORT AS fu*k IF 1 BAR WAS 1 LINE

 12 years ago '06        #59
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you guys are all fu*king nerds

1 bar - 1 line

in hip hop

HIP HOP

sh*t

i spit

 12 years ago '06        #60
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its all in how you spit it, you could spit one word and have it be a bar. or u could say two lines and that equals a bar. for example "all i do is pull the drop out once, and watch your girl drop my boxers like a knockout punch" -40 cal. thats two lines but one bar.

 12 years ago '04        #61
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Man jst fu*king listen or read this song by Royce 5'9" called 52 bars he counts out every bar after he rhymes it...for those isiots who don't know what a bar is...



Artist: Royce Da 5'9"
Album: M.I.C. (Make it Count)
Song: 52 Bars
Typed by:

[Royce Da 5'9"]
Yeah, yeah (5-9) yeah
This is Hip-Hop 101 n*ggaz (yeah, the M.I.C. n*gga)
I'm bout to teach y'all MC's how to count bars
Check it out (real MC's)
Let's get to it n*ggaz

[Chorus]
52 bars come out, now you feel it out
52 bars come out, now you feel it again
52 bars come out, now you feel it out
52 bars..

[Royce Da 5'9"]
Yeah, yeah, yeah; I'm a beast
I'ma be leavin y'all sleep all in them trauma sheets (2)
The pall bearer the one, the two carryin you (3)
to who buryin you on the count of three (4)
I'm the llama to squeeze (5)
I can promise my knowledge degrees has started a lot of beefin (6)
The gall of you to call to who all of you to pause (7)
{*gasp*} The fall of your momma's cheeks (8)
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You could be deep and, wind up kinda deep, yeah (10)
No amount of sleep can, mold you into what you tryna be (11)
Can only make a soldier outta me (12)
I'm the eightball - sittin out of the way (13)
of you finishin the product is able to face all (14)
I'ma just stay raw - instead of doin songs for women (15)
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After I put the "out of order" sign on the booth (18)
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Sony would just drop me like 50, yeah (20)
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I will change and, transform into 'Pac like Lil Zane (22)
This is lyrical nation - this is +Rap City+ (23)
while you fiends get out-rapped by Tigga in "Da Bassment" (24)
This tool I use on all of your peeps (25)
I call it my heat, cause I use it when I lose my cool (26)
It's too risky (27)
Took a line when who's sittin on the side of the new whip wit a huge pistol (28)
The huge clip hangin outta the bottle (29)
the size of a bottomless pit (30)
Every goon, you gotta be hit, reduce the size of your clique (31)
Like POOF, like I am a magician (32)
I am a giant to you, trick! (33)
I'm sicker than you, I feel like a pool stick in a room full of toothpicks (34)
Don't compare none of these rap wannabe (35)
cats to me, the best fear me, the rest is scared money (36)
Now that I'm back on the scene (37)
It's back to your baby mamas chasin me, I'm back on TV (38)
Yeah buddy - come get me cause we ain't scared (39)
Catch a buck-fifty the size of Freeway's beard, yeah (40 n*gga)
Ain't nobody vest preventin the 'K (41)
from rippin through bricks and hittin the rest of your henchmen (42)
Never been in the penitentiary, never get tense (43)
when there's war, never worry about catchin a sentence (44)
I don't care if you strong especially since (45)
my weapon is long enough to bury you with whatever you benchin (46)
I ain't friendly - I don't talk (47)
for nobody who ain't cuttin a check unless you a dentist (48)
You can never attempt to, diss me (49)
If you do, I will censor the lead of that pencil (50)
You punks better be distant (51)
One punch'll leave you lumped and, dumber than Jessica Simpson (fifty-TWO!)

Whoo! Hahaha, yeah (yeah)
It's not often you hear an MC like this n*gga (the M.I.C.!)
Take a picture of it, write it down
Do whatever you want I don't give a fu*k!
Yeah (haha) this what happens when

[Chorus]
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em out
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em again
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em out
52 bars n*gga, yeah, yeah
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em out
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em again
52 bars come out, now you feel 'em out
52 bars..

[Outro]
Hahaha, "death is Certain" n*ggaz (ho!)
(Ho!) Asar, I told you
Vicious! I told you
Yeah, aight you sissy a.ss MC's
Take notes {*laughing*}

 04-29-2006, 12:00 AM         #62
LOCO666  OP
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omg you guys are dumb 16 bars=16 lines and thats that

i swear half of you don't know sh*t about rap...usually rappers rap 4 lines/bars in 10 seconds...eg. every 2.5 or can vary a rapper spits 1/2 a bar...however depnding on their style it varies but they always try and spit 2 bars every 5 seconds


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 04-29-2006, 12:08 AM         #63
durdysoufpleya  OP
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ive always thought it as two lines, bar is a music term, not a rap term.

 12 years ago '04        #64
Drunk By Myself 
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 killawee said
look guys....1 bar equals 1 measure in music...BOOM thats the end of discussion

true...depends on the speed of the music and the speed of the rapper...

 04-29-2006, 07:53 AM         #65
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i flips down the ave u know im lookin tight/
these jealous n---as lookin at me and my car so shife/
wanna take my life and wanna jack but i see all thru that/
never let these bi*ch n---as take whats mine n---a, never do that/
fool say he goin thru a thang when y'all aint never lied/
i gotta baby but his momma act like he aint mine/
wicked woman using children to live on/
wanna hurt and try to hate, cause she know the thrill is gone/
say man i stopped smokin wit haters back in 94/
but n---as thinkin that a sweet gon get em thru my door/
and n---as talk alot a sh*t in a safe place/
i know cuz he cant look me eye to eye when he in my face/
now n---a listin to my prechin see just what i mean/
n---a i ride dirty every day but still i shine so clean/
glitter and gleam aint all what it look like/
so i keep swangin out here clangin tryin to live my life/


^^16 bars


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 04-29-2006, 11:31 AM         #66
Linguisticz  OP
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Depends on if you wanna use couplets...some people got their punches and sh*t in one line...some people use set up lines and put it into couplets, I always put it as 2 lines but it could go either way

 04-29-2006, 07:12 PM         #67
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1 line = 1 Bar

 12 years ago '04        #68
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Looking in the emcee chamber, I think people are confused. Talking about "lets spit 8 bars", and they spit a full 16 lines of rap. Most of these lines they're typing would take up a full bar to spit over, yet they are spitting twice as many lines as they say bars.

All you people who are saying poetically a bar is two lines, maybe by definition, but in rap 2 lines is not a bar. The most used format in rap is a line per bar. Some rappers spit faster than others and can fit a bunch of sh*t into a bar, but the general rhyme format is one line per bar.

When I see these cats in the emcee chamber saying "drop 8 bars", then they spit 16 full lines (some of these lines prolly wouldn't even fit within 1 musical bar) I think people are lost.

 12 years ago '04        #69
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Here's a couple of random verses copied from the emcee chamber section, where cats claim to be spitting 8 bars, you tell me how the hell you spit this in 8 bars

-----8 bars-----
Won’t keep you guessin’…my hands lethal weapons, superior to nines
That’ll re-arrange “Denz” parts………..like I’m doin’ interior design
Your skills? Inferior to mine- once your gone from my bleedin’ violence
BX won’t suffer much…after all, you’re the only one needin’ “Guydenz”
Readin’ my sh*ts inspired you; for newbs, that’s what my words’ll do
I would drop a personal………problem is, nobody here’s heard of you!
I’ve seen a verse or two……but oddly enough, I still ain’t seein’ ya niche
But it’s clear you have “talents a-broad”- no, I mean ya good at bein’ a bi*ch
So I’m seein’ ya sitch; you come out, and none of the other dytes respect ya
In other words you ~Can’t-Sell-Out~….................a little like ya record
I know what I type affects ya…I’ll expose the style of ya life with this, too
Cuz you do so much “hom-in’ and blowin” thatchu could Guy’d a missle
My lines’ll hitchu…Bring you pain from emission of flames thru muh dishin’
Beat me?...Yous a =Dream-Indict=…but hey, who can blame you for wishin’?
I maimed you with this one…see, I only sprouted this key’d out of intrigue
But next time- much like my skills compared to yours- stay out of my league…

-----8 bars-----
I punch with perfection, knock you out quicker then a lethal injection,
I suggest using a different mascara after this battle for your black and blue complexion!
I send tremors through the ground to knock you down with my fire spits,
I’d tell you that your “judgment day” was at hand, but you were already hit by the “Apocalypse”!
Losing hurts Dyne? Good cause I’ll rip you to shreds by releasing the hounds,
I’ll “shoot you at a boxing match”, cause that’s the only way to you I could be “losing rounds”!
I bring death, so prepare for no mercy when messing with me, just stay low,
The Dark Ages are upon you so you the Roman Empire the way your “lost with the info”!
Dyne gonna choke, spittin a "winded verse" cause I keep him on the run,
It’s a shame son; you would have a chance to win your battles if you showed up for one!
Shatter your bones, leave you "crip”pled, choke ya and leave ya “blue” in the face,
Truly a Disgrace, a quick “Dyne and Dash” ate your a.ss up; no wonder “fruit” is the taste!
I took care of your old crew, so they won’t “Rest in Peace” soon,
Just call me a “Lunar Eclipse” the way I’m easily “overshadowing White Moon”!
I strike quicker then a sonic boom, so nah I dare Dyne to mess-wit-this, ,
I’ll pop him like a cork and bottle his crazy foreign a.ss so I'll call him““ludacris / luda-crys”!"

 04-30-2006, 05:45 PM         #70
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how many lines was games 300 bars.........

 04-30-2006, 05:51 PM         #71
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 playmaker said
how many lines was games 300 bars.........
it was 300 lines.


go check it urself, if u don't believe it.
copy and paste lyrics to microsoft WORD and do word count.
u get like 306 LINES. 6 extra lines, only kuz the lyrics i found had like "i said" on one line...

but 306 is MUCH closer to 300 than 600, eh?

 12 years ago '06        #72
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im gonna strangle 46 ppl

 04-30-2006, 06:45 PM         #73
DJ ACV  OP
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i cant believe how many of y'all are voting 2 lines=1 bar

 04-30-2006, 07:10 PM         #74
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if you know how to write you would know that 16 lines is a 16 bars.
when i write a 16 , meaning a regular verse (16 lines on a piece of paper) , off an average industry beat.. the chorus ALWAYS comes in perfect.
those text flows someone posted where actually enough to lay a verse on a track, they were 16's. if you count rhyming halfway in your bar as being two lines, then you might think a bar is 2 lines . like someone said earlier with the lil wayne example, that was 2 bars.

 12 years ago '04        #75
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Yeah, if you break it down by the beat, or poetically perhaps a bar is 2 lines. But when it comes to the lyrical breakdown / format, the general standard is a line a bar. Like mentioned already different rappers have different rhyme schemes / speeds and may fit more into the bars.

But there is no way in hell the verses I posted above could be 2 lines a bar. These textcees need to get the facts right.

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