Is 16 bars equal to 16 lines? (w/ a POLL this time)

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ONE bar is equal to...
ONE line. 34 33.33%
TWO lines. 51 50.00%
i have no fuckin idea... 5 4.90%
i THOUGHT i knew... but not sure anymore. 12 11.76%
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 12 years ago '05        #41
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When A Rapper Says "100 Bars Of death" Or Sum Shyt They Sayin That The Beat Will Loop 100 Times. So Loop A Beat In Yo Head And Spit To It. U Will More Than Likely Spit 2 Lines On 1 Bar Then The Beat Will Re-loop.
 12 years ago '06        #42
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stop the madness
 04-28-2006, 06:32 PM         #43
yungb  OP
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fu*kin idiots.










A bar is obviously a place you go to when you wanna chill and meet people. I took music class, and I know.


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 04-28-2006, 06:59 PM         #44
Arkanjal  OP
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 EmpTClip said:
lol.. i know what a true bar is, its a measure of music y i know this? because i took music class, plus i produce

but when im writting down a verse never do i put TWO lines as ONE bar, that dont even make sense at all, rap and poetry are two different things all though there similar you write the sh*t differently, y i know this? because i have taken a poetry class..lol

some poetry dont even rhyme, but its still poetry, when do u hear RAP songs not rhymin, threw the whole thing? i know what im sayin

theres alot of non emcees speakin on this if you dont rap or havent done any form of music in your life dont speak you wont get it and if you do rap


nobody will ever take you serious as an mc if you say that sh*t.

not all poetry is rap, but rap is poetry man.


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 12 years ago '04        #45
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lines dont equal bars....
bars are a musical composition cut into small equal sections by single perpendicular lines drawn across the stave. Double lines are used to mark the end of a part or measure.

Bar: a group of beats, usually the same number, serving as a continual unit of measuring musical time.
The answer is that for the most part, a bar is the same as a measure.
measurement = One bar equals four counts. It's counted one, two, three, four, repeat to the beat of a song. The bar count is used to measure how long an emcee will rap in an emcee battle. It could be 8, 16, 32 bars or more.

I think the mistake being made is the confusion of what a line is
one two three four/one two three four = one bar
that to some of you means one line
to some of you it equals

one two three four
one two three four
now it equals two lines

lines are the compostion of the writing

conventionally
1 bar equals 2 lines (remember what each is within the structure of the song)
 04-28-2006, 07:28 PM         #46
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one bar = one measure

so one bar usually has 2 snare hits (especially classic beats they werent so complicated), but either way one bar has 4 beats.

the rapper decides how many bars one line will take up
 12 years ago '04        #47
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 JustForgetIt said:
what ? one two three four/one two three four = one bar ?
but you said four beats is one bar so wouldn't that be two bars?

based on what u stated at first

one two three four < would be one bar
one two three four < would be the second bar
which end up as two lines
in my definition of a bar.........
yes...in a musical stand point a bar is the FULL COUNT to close
one two three four (period close the count) = equals one bar

in rap....
one two three four is not the full count to close
one two three four/one two three four (period close the count in rhyme) = equals one bar (per the beat)
 04-28-2006, 07:43 PM         #48
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it like a link cant have a bar with out the other line
 12 years ago '04        #49
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 Arkanjal said:


nobody will ever take you serious as an mc if you say that sh*t.

not all poetry is rap, but rap is poetry man.


that was worded wrong true, rap is poetry in a sense, but i dont remember edgar allen poe talkin about gats gunz drugz etc, poetry and hip hop are two different forms of expression although there structured sometimes the same

i read poetry all the time and theres just a different feel from reading old poetry, than goin to listen to a rap song its just different to me if you dont agree than oh well you judge sh*t how u want to i dont care, quite tryin to be all scientific with everything theres an obvious difference in poetry from hip hop

rap or hip hop is its own form of expression just like poetry is....and im already takin seriously as an emcee kid this is why im telling you that 16 lines = 16 bars

im not even gonna argue with you on this all i have to say is, go into an established artists studio, and he tells you to do a song, and you end up with 96 bars and a 16 bar hook your gonna look real foolish


also quote all of somethin and not some of it


 EmpTClip said:
rap and poetry are two different things all though there similar you write the sh*t differently, y i know this? because i have taken a poetry class..lol
i said ALTHOUGH THERE SIMILAR


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 12 years ago '04        #50
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So basically you're saying that this would be 4 lines, aka 2 bars, in terms of the writing format:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads
Fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old
School n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

As opposed to:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

So basically that should be formatted into 4 lines?

Edit: I see now, I had my understanding of a "line" confused


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 12 years ago '04        #51
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 Jamaro85 said:
So basically you're saying that this would be 4 lines, aka 2 bars, in terms of the writing format:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads
Fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old
School n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

As opposed to:

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

So basically that should be formatted into 4 lines?

if your talkin to me, no i didnt say that

its right like he wrote it cause he inner rhymes

so

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

would be the correct way
 12 years ago '04        #52
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 EmpTClip said:
if your talkin to me, no i didnt say that

its right like he wrote it cause he inner rhymes

so

"I rap for listeners, bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the"

would be the correct way
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...
 12 years ago '04        #53
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 Jamaro85 said:
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...

nah man its two lines, rappers rhyme differently nas for instance has a unique inner rhyming style so he puts more multis into ONE bar, most ppl would try to break that up into four bars but its two

every true emcee i know thats been doin this rap thing including myself for 6-7+yrs knows that its 1=1, not 1=2


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 04-28-2006, 08:07 PM         #54
Arkanjal  OP
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 Jamaro85 said:
Right, but I'm saying, that's 4 lines, like cats are saying? To me thats 2 lines, but people are saying in terms of the poetry its 4...
in terms of poetry....im pretty sure that would be 4 lines. id have to hear the song as to how that would be split up.

what song is it?
 12 years ago '04        #55
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 Arkanjal said:
in terms of poetry....im pretty sure that would be 4 lines. id have to hear the song as to how that would be split up.

what song is it?
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits
 04-28-2006, 08:14 PM         #56
Arkanjal  OP
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 Jamaro85 said:
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits
I rap for listeners // bluntheads, fly ladies and prisoners
Hennessey holders // and old school n*ggas, then I be dissin' the

4 lines....2 bars.

people are stuck on thinking a "line" is a "rhyme". every line doesnt ahve to rhyme.....typically, every bar does though.
 12 years ago '04        #57
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 Jamaro85 said:
Nas - Memory Lane

First two bars he spits
didnt know you were refering to poetry when you asked that my bad...

but in hip hop form its correct like he put it
 12 years ago '04        #58
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SONGS WOULD BE SHORT AS fu*k IF 1 BAR WAS 1 LINE
 12 years ago '06        #59
A-1 AFiciaL 
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you guys are all fu*king nerds

1 bar - 1 line

in hip hop

HIP HOP

sh*t

i spit
 12 years ago '06        #60
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its all in how you spit it, you could spit one word and have it be a bar. or u could say two lines and that equals a bar. for example "all i do is pull the drop out once, and watch your girl drop my boxers like a knockout punch" -40 cal. thats two lines but one bar.
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