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 13 years ago '04        #51
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i dunno........i like both them dudes...Jay did alot for Hip Hop and he's gonna be held up there with the greatest........but that Not a Writer track had me thinking....

Jaz O been saying for years that Jay is a fraud, and he doesnt do the things he says he will do.....Jaz O said on many DVDs that ive seen that Jay steals alot of his lines from other artists....and if you've heard 'Not a Writer' that's just a little portion of what he's talking about i guess

rumor had it that the 'I Declare War' concert he was suppose to go at all the people he had problems with, he said it himself, that alot of people are gonna hear it, even people that didnt know he had issues with them....then all of a sudden he brings out Nas (which i thought was big).............that 'Dear Summer' track was rumored to be a subliminal going at the Dips amonst other people.....Jones said it himself after he did 'Summer in Miami', that Jay thought the summer was just for him and hit was his time to shine and put the game on his shoulders....Jones said it on the Hot 97 morning show 'If he thinks summer is his, he's crazy, alot dudes rock during the summer, we shine too.....and this coming from somebody who bites alot of Biggie lines, then it's really Big's summer, not his."

word play wise, i dont think Jay is that clever, i would say that Cam takes him on that....im not trying to say that Cam is better then Jay, cuz i dont even think that, but Cam's wordplay is better then Jay's..........IMO

i dunno....this n*gga Jay better come back...."If it aint directed directly at me, i dont respect it."

try and say he's a gnat and not respond, that track was 'directed directly' at you.....he need to say something

 13 years ago '04        #52
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this is funny cuz i will like to c how people goin 2 act in NY will they side wit Jay-Z or tha Diplamat k!lla cuz they both got respect in tha streets

 01-20-2006, 07:12 PM         #53
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camrons cool and all but he aint built for that type of beef

 01-20-2006, 07:17 PM         #54
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Cam is about to sell a ton of records lol

 13 years ago '05        #55
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 Peter Starks™ said
Maybe... But k!llA SEASON comes out in April.
Hip Hop was gettin WACK (Everybody was on R&B or 50). Cam jus picked it back up with a solid diss (no murder music type ish either).

Give Cam a hand cuz he did a good job.
k!lla Season: The Movie definately comes out on Valentine's Day and the album comes out on that next Tuesday. Who told you it came out in April?

 01-20-2006, 07:35 PM         #56
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jay really doesn't need to respond to cam. at this point in jays career, cam's not worth it. ps. jay would crush came with about 10 bars if he did respond

 01-21-2006, 01:24 AM         #57
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 Peter Starks™ said
Maybe... But k!llA SEASON comes out in April.
Hip Hop was gettin WACK (Everybody was on R&B or 50). Cam jus picked it back up with a solid diss (no murder music type ish either).

Give Cam a hand cuz he did a good job.

thats what its about...the only reasonable comment since the thread started

jay cant expect to diss people then back out...just cause he reunited with nas
doesnt mean hes got NY....cams shooting has given him leverage and a much needed buzz cause hes one of the only dudes whos seen commercial success who continually blesses the streets and mixtapes with freestyles and exclusive music....as a businessman he sees a venue to address the jay-z beef which stems from the bad roc deal and he has reputadely addressed subliminally in dfiferent songs(check bird call rmx)...not to take away from jays greatness...but it is evident he hasnt been hitting the streets with that fire they need.....roc vs diplomats would be a joke....jay needs to either bury cam or watch out.

 01-21-2006, 02:01 AM         #58
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ill be honest that diss tracks was mad weak, cam aint nowhere near hovas level, 7 minutes of jus pure bullsh*t, talkin about how someone dresses. if that impresses yall then yea garbage a.ss dipset should be your favorite rappers. they stole the byrd gang name from a real crew in harlem these cats are as phoney as they come, they aint real, they got no respect, they wear pink and purple and they are homophobics. fu*k them

 01-21-2006, 02:58 AM         #59
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jay z has never even won a battle

 13 years ago '04        #60
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Break down the ok diss. Actually, this song is better than Ether. The reason is it had more real battle lines. Ether was full of you look like this jokes. Now this song had them too, but not as bad as ether. The beat is hot. Cam is crazy funny. So the average listener is thinking damn he k!lled him. But really, what did this cat say. Great diss records really break stuff down and diss the person not talk about looks too much. No Vaseline (ice cube) Takeover (Hova). those are two great diss tracks. Now on to the Cam joint.

1. 80's baby - for all the dumb people. When jay says that he is a 80's baby, he means he was raised in the 80's. the important stuff in his life happened in the 80's. That's what that means. Jay's line was: I'm a 80's baby, mastered Reganomincs (that's about he drugs that many people say that Regan let come into the ghettos). Doesn't mean he was born in the 80's. Dummys

2. One part of the song he says jay is 37 then another part he says jay is 42. Clearly he is just talking out his a.ss for laughs

3. So what you had Beyonce on a track before she and Hov ever thought about getting together. The hold no weight on a diss track. Now if you fu*ked her that's another story.

4. He talked about how his wallet is brolic too. Please. His wallet doesn't compare to Jay's

5. J didn't take Kanye. kanye chose J. Jay offered dame the ROC. Jay just wanted his masters. Dame didn't want to have the ROC without Jays masters. Both stated this in XXL. He didn't take Rocawear. Dame didn't want it because he didn't own Rocafella anymore. He sold his share. Duh.

6. Jay Z has 8 solo albums, 2 joints with R. Kelly, over a hundred guest appearances and soundtrack thing. He probably has over 200 hours of music that he has done in his career. So you find 6 min of lines that he has used. Most just a line here and there (there were like 2 or 3 long ones). That doesn't make him a bitter. Now if he only had one or two cds and had the same amount of stuff then that would mean something. Now what Jay needs to do is make a track like that with rappers using his lines. I know a rack of them off hand.

7. Sandals and jeans (that's funny as sh*t) no excuse for that sh*t. LOL

8. He said that J stabbed Un over Charli Baltimore. Nope. B-more was Biggies thing. What in the fu*k is he going to stab Un over her for.

All in all the track was pretty good. But break it down and the n*gga didn't say much of sh*t. and exaggereated sh*t for the AVERAGE listener to wow at. Not real fans of the music.

 13 years ago '04        #61
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Ive got Camron to destroy Gay-Z,

I like rap battles, sh*t is entertaining.

 13 years ago '04        #62
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 macadon83 said
Lyrically better than cam. Have you listened to either of these n*ggaz. Jayz wordplay is no where near as clever as cam. Cam says some stupid sh*t sometimes, but for the most part, he got jay beat in every category (minus sales). i HOPE HE RETALIATE SO HE CAN GET murderED AGAIN.
Beat in every category ?? ....WHAT THE fu*kKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK YOU BE SMOKIN HOMIE ??? HOVA WILL LYRICALLY SLAY CAM'RON and wipe his blood all over the wall if he ever put out a track ....camron took 8 fu*kin mins to say whatever the fu*k he had to say with his cheap shots and low blows...but jigga now will let the bones outta cam's closet and speak the TRUTH about dat pus*y cam...in waaaay less time ... come on man, that pink shirt pus*y aint got nothin on hov, and if yall disagree then yall just lying to yallselves, either that or yall looking for forum attention. dont be ignorant...do the knowlwdge...

 01-21-2006, 11:06 AM         #63
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I know cam cant fu*k wit jay lyrically but if jay doesn't get back at him he loses credibility simple as that... If nas would've never gotten back at jay people would've said the same sh*t about nas... sh*t jay even got back at MEENO and Jayo Felony... He can definitely get back at Cam... fu*k a corporate world the streets want this... At least holla back one time Jay...

 01-21-2006, 11:16 AM         #64
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jay is good, but as i said to people he aint going to go after cam, because he know he is to old for this. jay got skillz but everyone know that cam is going to come back no matter what. cam is on the top of his game and no one is going to stop him. people need to respect that man, because he really is bring it. DIPSET BI*CH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 01-21-2006, 11:19 AM         #65
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Hova gonna eat cam up....Cam is a horrible rapper

 13 years ago '04        #66
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why would Jay reply??? Nas ended Jays battle rappin career.... Cam would murk yalls hero

 13 years ago '04        #67
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 daone2fear said
Break down the ok diss. Actually, this song is better than Ether. The reason is it had more real battle lines. Ether was full of you look like this jokes. Now this song had them too, but not as bad as ether. The beat is hot. Cam is crazy funny. So the average listener is thinking damn he k!lled him. But really, what did this cat say. Great diss records really break stuff down and diss the person not talk about looks too much. No Vaseline (ice cube) Takeover (Hova). those are two great diss tracks. Now on to the Cam joint.

1. 80's baby - for all the dumb people. When jay says that he is a 80's baby, he means he was raised in the 80's. the important stuff in his life happened in the 80's. That's what that means. Jay's line was: I'm a 80's baby, mastered Reganomincs (that's about he drugs that many people say that Regan let come into the ghettos). Doesn't mean he was born in the 80's. Dummys

2. One part of the song he says jay is 37 then another part he says jay is 42. Clearly he is just talking out his a.ss for laughs

3. So what you had Beyonce on a track before she and Hov ever thought about getting together. The hold no weight on a diss track. Now if you fu*ked her that's another story.

4. He talked about how his wallet is brolic too. Please. His wallet doesn't compare to Jay's

5. J didn't take Kanye. kanye chose J. Jay offered dame the ROC. Jay just wanted his masters. Dame didn't want to have the ROC without Jays masters. Both stated this in XXL. He didn't take Rocawear. Dame didn't want it because he didn't own Rocafella anymore. He sold his share. Duh.

6. Jay Z has 8 solo albums, 2 joints with R. Kelly, over a hundred guest appearances and soundtrack thing. He probably has over 200 hours of music that he has done in his career. So you find 6 min of lines that he has used. Most just a line here and there (there were like 2 or 3 long ones). That doesn't make him a bitter. Now if he only had one or two cds and had the same amount of stuff then that would mean something. Now what Jay needs to do is make a track like that with rappers using his lines. I know a rack of them off hand.

7. Sandals and jeans (that's funny as sh*t) no excuse for that sh*t. LOL

8. He said that J stabbed Un over Charli Baltimore. Nope. B-more was Biggies thing. What in the fu*k is he going to stab Un over her for.

All in all the track was pretty good. But break it down and the n*gga didn't say much of sh*t. and exaggereated sh*t for the AVERAGE listener to wow at. Not real fans of the music.
does rap mean that much 2 you???

 13 years ago '04        #68
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Cam aint even the best in dipset...Juelz is that n*gga!! If Santana was to get on that n*gga...who knows what would happen...

 13 years ago '04        #69
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 POMP said
jay z has never even won a battle
:applause:

 01-21-2006, 12:24 PM         #70
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 8 OFF said
A Def Jam rep would say only: "Obviously, Cam'ron must have an album coming out soon."
a fine choice of words

 13 years ago '04        #71
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cam'ron buried nas? hmmm thats news to me

 13 years ago '04        #72
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 JYoungworld1203 said
if 50 can diss n*ggas for heat...why cant Cam

a lot of dudes just mad he took shots at the king...at least he had the balls to do so in a day where n*ggas hold they tongues cuz they afraid of the business aspect of rap. hip hop is based on takin steps towards the crown, and right now Cam takin a serious run at Jay. Jay traditionally has been my favorite of the two, but if he doesnt respond id be disappointed
an actual intelligent opinion

 01-21-2006, 12:47 PM         #73
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Cam is wack and he knows it. I'd rather listen to his prodigy anytime. Jay shouldn't even think of replying, Cam is a cheap dude. He should invest in proper marketing of his album.

 13 years ago '04        #74
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Cam's ghost also when on to say,
"I went at Jay/I'm so Gay/Wear pink all day/look at me/I'll battle rap/slap-a-slap/123 a tat a tat"

hahahahahahah

 01-21-2006, 03:18 PM         #75
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 the407problem said
i dont see how people think Jay is so great yea he made alot of albums but on the real i dont see him as a legend cus i really never felt what he has to say. he's too basic to me.
jay z is basic?? what does that make cam?? hahahahah

cam had 3 good albums at best

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