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Why U.S Peeps Cannot Be Taken Seriously!!!!!


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 01-12-2006, 08:25 PM         #151
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 RicFlair said
nope youd be american

an english american but youd be an american
No I wouldnt. I would be a citizen of America but I would be English. Parents = English, Place of Birth = England, Nationality = English.

 01-12-2006, 08:31 PM         #152
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being a citizen of american makes you an american

 13 years ago '05        #153
Da Gooneyz 5 heat pts
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 Az.Zalzalah said
Your Opinion Doesn't Count
The Brits have made no real contribution to hip-hop, and quite frankly, we don't need your help. Hip-Hop is strictly black, with few exceptions such as Eminem and latinos
I'm guessing that from this that you didnt know there are black people in Britain, My Grandmother and pretty much every other West Indian family here's Grand or even Great-grandparents came here in the 50's & 60's. How they ended up here and not back to Africa is anybody's guess, but the answer you'll usually get is that it was because of job opportunity, and the fact that the West Indies was part, and in alot of places still is, under British rule. We're at 3rd & 4th generations now.

And if you wanna really break it down, check it. We all know the Hip-Hop borrows it sound from alot of different music. and for the most part it was from soul, funk, blues and jazz. But probably the most important influence would be the sound system and "dub" sound which came from Jamaica, where man would "toast" over the tune and take the piss. That whole block party sh*t came from the West Indies. Kool Herc is Jamaican, and if it werent for him, there would be no Hip-Hop, PERIOD. Its my peoples that you got to thank for that sh*t, straight up. Where would Bambaataa be without Evgeny Murzin, the creator of the synthesizer? He was Russian. What about Kraftwerk? They are from Germany and I think they started out '68. Can you imagine the B-Boy without Tour De France & Trans-Europe Express? When I watch Style Wars, I see white kids bombin' and risking their lives just as much as I see black kids. Look at what Martha Cooper did to expose all of that talent, and she is white. The whole "Real" contribution thing goes far beyond a few plaques on a studio wall.

I've had the opportunity to live in NYC at a very impressionable age, and Ive experienced Hip-Hop long before I was even aware of the word, it was actually uncool to say Hip-Hop at one point where I was. But just because im black that doesnt mean im gonna agree with that comment, no way.Everyone's opinion counts when it comes to Hip-Hop. The whole culture was buillt off the fact that our opinion "didnt count". Now you are gonna take that same elitist mentality and break it down? I dont agree.

PS and shame on those cats tryna take it to some "my country's better cause we beat you in the war/pound is stronger than the dollar" sh*t. You carry on being patriotic for the same empires that have been running on the blood of your ancestors for centuries and still are.


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 01-12-2006, 08:41 PM         #154
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 RicFlair said
being a citizen of american makes you an american
No it doesnt. It makes you a citizen. So everyone who lives in Australia is Australian? or everyone in India in Indian?

 01-12-2006, 08:58 PM         #155
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 tweedle- said
No it doesnt. It makes you a citizen. So everyone who lives in Australia is Australian? or everyone in India in Indian?
not everyone that lives there is neccessarily a citizen


and if they are a citizen of australian then they are an aussie

 01-12-2006, 09:01 PM         #156
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No they arent. If they were born there they could class themself as an Aussie but it doesnt mean they are, it all depends on them. If they moved there and become a citizen they arent.

 01-12-2006, 09:05 PM         #157
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i think we are hitting a cultural wall here


in america being born here and becoming naturalized you end up as the same thing. you get the same rights and are considered the same. so thats where im comin from.

this thread got crazy we are all pissed at each other.


agree to disagree

 01-12-2006, 09:06 PM         #158
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Why would someone born in a country get different rights to someone who moved and got citizenship?

 01-12-2006, 09:14 PM         #159
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 tweedle- said
Why would someone born in a country get different rights to someone who moved and got citizenship?

i dont know i was trying to figure out why you dont understand this sh*t

 01-12-2006, 09:15 PM         #160
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I know what your saying but I dont agree. Someone born in a country wont have more rights to someone living there, atleast in the UK. If they do in the US then thats fu*ked up

 01-12-2006, 09:18 PM         #161
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no they dont, but i thought maybe they did in england the way you dont agree. i dont think this argument can get anything done

 01-12-2006, 09:21 PM         #162
tweedle-  OP
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Well We can just leave it at Uk>>>>Us then

 01-12-2006, 09:35 PM         #163
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 tweedle- said
Well We can just leave it at Uk>>>>Us then


never that

your just lying to yourself

 01-12-2006, 09:39 PM         #164
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haha no, Im Really not. Uk>>>Us anyday

 01-12-2006, 09:41 PM         #165
RicFlair  OP
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the funniest part is i think you really believe that too

 13 years ago '04        #166
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 tweedle- said
haha no, Im Really not. Uk>>>Us anyday
Does it matter?

 01-12-2006, 09:45 PM         #167
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The only the Us has over England is that your Army would destroy us.

Going to a club or bar when Im 18>>>>>Not being able to until I am 21

Getting a caution for possesion of weed>>>>>Going on probation for a year or worse Jail over a couple grams.

 13 years ago '04        #168
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 RicFlair said
the funniest part is i think you really believe that too

its sad if he really does believe it.

 13 years ago '04        #169
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 tweedle- said
The only the Us has over England is that your Army would destroy us.

Going to a club or bar when Im 18>>>>>Not being able to until I am 21

Getting a caution for possesion of weed>>>>>Going on probation for a year or worse Jail over a couple grams.
NYC > UK

You can get into the club at 18 over here, possesion of weed is a joke over here, it doesnt even matter because our corrupted legal system and our rediculous political system makes it easy for the average person to manipulate everything to benefit us.

 01-12-2006, 09:53 PM         #170
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80% of Weed coming from Holland>>>>>Americas Existance

 01-12-2006, 09:56 PM         #171
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We'll just leave this as you think Us>>>Uk and I think Uk>>>>Us cause this sh*t could go on all day

 13 years ago '04        #172
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I can still get my hands on most types of weed that comes through Amsterdam.

I dont need to alwayz have a blunt of skunk haze. i can settle with some blueberry dro...but if i wanted all the good exotic and different breeds i could still get it

 13 years ago '04        #173
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UK > Idaho
UK > Maine
UK > Wisconsin

LA > UK
NY > UK
HOUSTON > UK
ATL > UK
MIAMI > UK
DETROIT > UK

i could go on

 01-12-2006, 10:01 PM         #174
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 tweedle- said
We'll just leave this as you think Us>>>Uk and I think Uk>>>>Us cause this sh*t could go on all day

yeah thats basically what i said like 20 minutes ago but you responded with ok so lets just say uk>>us

 01-12-2006, 10:01 PM         #175
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 tweedle- said
We'll just leave this as you think Us>>>Uk and I think Uk>>>>Us cause this sh*t could go on all day
Like I said, this could go on all day.

London>Us. Theres nothing more to be said after that.

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