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Jan 10 - 'MOST DANGEROUS GANG' IN U.S. TAKES ROOT IN TORONTO
 

 
Pubdate: Fri, 30 Dec 2005
Source: National Post (Canada)

'MOST DANGEROUS GANG' IN U.S. TAKES ROOT HERE

MS-13 Notorious For behe@ding Its Victims

Their names sound as benign as any high school sports team, but their
presence is increasingly deadly.

Some of Toronto's 70-plus identified street gangs have worked their
way into the public realm through arrests or their own bloody acts of
aggression, such as the Galloway Boys, Malvern Crew, Ardwick Blood
Crew and the Jamestown Crips.

Others are known only on the streets and inside newly created but
confidential police files: Block-13, The Gatorz, Chalkfarm Bloodsand
Five Point Generalz among them, several street and police sources
tell the National Post.

Perhaps the most alarming development in the terra incognita that is
Toronto's emerging gangland, however, is the confirmed presence here
of the MS-13, or the Mara Salvatrucha, a gang whose parent group in
the United States has been called "the most dangerous gang in America."

MS-13 was originally formed in Los Angeles by young men who fled the
civil strife in El Salvador. The new immigrants were being terrorized
by established street gangs and banded together, first for
self-protection and later, recognizing their growing strength, as aggressors.

When several of the original members were deported, it gave the gang
instant operatives in numerous Central American countries who helped
build drug- and people-smuggling routes.

In the United States, the gang is notorious for behe@ding its victims
and for directly confronting police officers with high-powered guns.

There has been nothing of that nature from the group of MS-13 in
Toronto, but officers have confirmed its worrisome presence.

"It is the same gang. They are showing up here. It is difficult to
tell exactly how affiliated they are because they are just starting
to emerge here," said Detective-Sergeant Doug Quan, head of the gang
section in Toronto police's Gun and Gang Task Force.

"Our intelligence shows that they are here and they are affiliated to
the U.S. MS-13," he said.

The Toronto version of MS-13 has a presence in the west side of the
city's downtown.

It has remained true to its roots and is comprised almost exclusively
of young men of Latin American origin.

The emergence of new gangs and new information coming to light on
older, more established street gangs leaves police gang officers
chasing a moving target.

Officers have identified more than 70 street gangs in Toronto, but
only about 25 of them have escalated in police eyes to becoming
serious criminal gangs, the likes of which would be covered by
Canada's anti-gang laws.

These laws were designed to tackle Mafia groups and outlaw motorcycle
gangs like the Hells Angels -- criminal organizations that remain far
above the street gangs in terms of criminal scope and sophistication.

Toronto street gangs have perhaps 1,800 to 2,000 members and
associates, police say. Gang size ranges from groups of 10 members
who seek to control a single housing complex, a street or a park to
some with 40 or more members who seek a wider territory for drug sales.

The members are typically between the ages of 16 and 25.

Some of the more established gangs have members in their 30s or 40s,
who are often seen as "elder statesmen," advising young gangsters
while avoiding street confrontations, police say.

Some gangs have formal induction ceremonies, while others maintain an
informal structure based on personal friendships.

"There are internal hierarchies and designated leaders and informal
leaders," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Some gangs force members to pay dues, some have a formal system of
contributing to pay other members' legal bills. Some even have war
chests to support the families of members who are jailed. Some have
defined meetings at specific locations and times, while others just
seem to hang around together.

"It varies from gang to gang. Some have identifiable colours,
tattoos, almost a uniform but others adopt bits and pieces, a hybrid
of American street gang culture," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Many gangs evolved from young men going to school together or growing
up in a neighbourhood together. As children they get into a little
trouble, perhaps commit petty crimes together and form a bond.

They then start to hook up with other like-minded young people, and
their network expands. A stint in jail also introduces them to gang leaders.

The gangs have traditionally retained an ethnic component -- groups
of Tamils or Jamaican immigrants, for instance, but that is changing.
The gangs are starting to embrace Canada's multicultural ethos and
police are finding white, black and Asian members in the same gang. A
person's perceived loyalty to the group and criminal contribution are
becoming more important than race.

As in the United States, the city's gangs have broken into two
primary gang alliances, called the Bloods and the Crips, named for
the rival Los Angeles street gangs that first used the names.

The original founders of many of Toronto's gangs picked which of the
gangs they liked and chose to affiliate with that culture, Det.-Sgt.
Quan said. Since then, some have built relationships with their U.S.
counterparts.

"Some have family or cousins or friends involved in gangs in the
States and there are some direct connections between, say, a
Chicago-based Blood gang that directly deals with a Toronto-based
Blood gang," he said.

Many Toronto street gangs affiliate themselves to both one of the
colossal U.S. gangs and to a tiny patch of Toronto turf. A gang like
the Ardwick Blood Crew takes its name from the Ardwick townhouse
complex many members once lived in and also their affiliation with the Bloods.

Generally speaking, Bloods are rivals of Crips or, more accurately, a
Bloods gang will typically support another Bloodsgang and the same
for the Crips gangs.

But if their territories come into conflict, money and the need for
"respect" trumps all allegiances and blood will inevitably be shed.

"They are just so bold and so young and they make dreadful mistakes
trying to establish themselves," Det.-Sgt. Quan said.

Those mistakes are increasingly causing alarm in Toronto as innocent
bystanders are being caught in the crossfire.

Police find the gangs all seem to have at least one thing in common:
"Drug trafficking fuels just about everything," he said.


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49 comments for "Jan 10 - 'MOST DANGEROUS GANG' IN U.S. TAKES ROOT IN TORONTO"

 13 years ago '05        #2
g0tt1 211 heat pts211
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Welcome to canada

 13 years ago '05        #3
rshodunke 1 heat pts
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no matter what, gangs can form anywhere. The only way to have a chance at stopping it is to teach the young children in school now to stay out of them.

 13 years ago '04        #4
Tastemaker331 61 heat pts61
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This sh*t has to stop. Its getting ridiculous. Practically nowhere is safe anymore because of gangs, and joining gangs i just an easy way to die.

 01-10-2006, 11:42 PM         #5
BlazeA50  OP
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get a gun...im finna get one if more cats move in down here
all these mufu*kers are movin down here

 13 years ago '04        #6
KillaKell_01 1 heat pts
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 BlazeA50 said
get a gun...im finna get one if more cats move in down here
all these mufu*kers are movin down here
In the everlasting words of "The Christmas Story",

"You'll Shoot Your Eye Out, Kid."

 01-10-2006, 11:48 PM         #7
BlazeA50  OP
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 KillaKell_01 said
In the everlasting words of "The Christmas Story",

"You'll Shoot Your Eye Out, Kid."
man, shut the fu*k up

you know the youngins the ones doin all this sh*t

 13 years ago '04        #8
Big War|M 
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heal the world... listen to MJ...


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 01-11-2006, 06:27 AM         #9
deeeillest  OP
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......waiting for cats from toronto to say how bad its gettin lol

 13 years ago '05        #10
LuDerCriS 
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wow the ms-13 gang been in ny for a min...... hempstead the most....they neva get outta line like that...behe@ding nigg@s and sh*t??? wow.....just shows you there are and will neva be any superior groups or kingpins ova here......blood,crip, or whatever.....nigg@s only bang wit nigg@s they struggle wit ova here plus the gang sh*t died out .... but then young nigg@s definitely are the stupid ones all ova the globe....

"Ima sure shot u buststrays,
young nigg@s runaround thuggin wit young rage,
i dont care if he at a young age,
he old enough to act like a G,
he old enough to get hit wit the pump GAUGE" - PaPooSe

 01-11-2006, 06:57 AM         #11
CasaHova  OP
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Down in my area DC/MD/VA they are deep here. Some areas they are very open about it. Man I hear that the FBI created a task force to deal with them.

 01-11-2006, 07:02 AM         #12
billy yayo  OP
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fu*k them.

 01-11-2006, 08:50 AM         #13
..::KING::..  OP
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them ms n*ggas get punked around my way we be too deep

real talk

 01-11-2006, 08:55 AM         #14
..::KING::..  OP
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 CasaHova said
Down in my area DC/MD/VA they are deep here. Some areas they are very open about it. Man I hear that the FBI created a task force to deal with them.

they deep probly in pg but out tha city(D.C) them n*ggas get smashed and same aound my way too but they run langley park ill give them that

 13 years ago '04        #15
Dash Marley 11 heat pts11
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I haven't heard of them runnin around in detroit yet

 01-11-2006, 10:32 AM         #16
KandyRedSS  OP
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 deeeillest said
......waiting for cats from toronto to say how bad its gettin lol


mayne........gangs dont got its same sparkle no more, not like back in the 90's n sh*t when everyone wanted to be down......

canada gettin real far behind, and i dont give a fu*k how hard u think u canadian hoods are, or how poor yall are livin

YALL CANT BE US!!!

 01-11-2006, 10:40 AM         #17
RealTO  OP
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Canada is years behind the U.S. in gangs thats true.

 13 years ago '05        #18
TrainWreck 
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 KandyRedSS said
canada gettin real far behind, and i dont give a fu*k how hard u think u canadian hoods are, or how poor yall are livin

YALL CANT BE US!!!

and I hope we never do.

 01-11-2006, 11:37 AM         #19
Five 'n' Lash  OP
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not tryin to diss ne1 but i been to toronto. there so called "hoods" n "ghettos" make our suburbs look like compton, word yo.....

 01-11-2006, 12:15 PM         #20
RealTO  OP
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^^^ Bullsh*t. Thats cause your whole city is a slum. Toronto is a fully functional city with hoods here and there. Can't compare those two.

 01-11-2006, 12:22 PM         #21
Ddizzle  OP
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 Five 'n' Lash said
not tryin to diss ne1 but i been to toronto. there so called "hoods" n "ghettos" make our suburbs look like compton, word yo.....
fu*k then id rather be in canada then have to worry about punks running around with guns

 01-11-2006, 12:28 PM         #22
zion  OP
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 KandyRedSS said


mayne........gangs dont got its same sparkle no more, not like back in the 90's n sh*t when everyone wanted to be down......

canada gettin real far behind, and i dont give a fu*k how hard u think u canadian hoods are, or how poor yall are livin

YALL CANT BE US!!!
y the fu*k do we want to b like u?????

 01-11-2006, 12:38 PM         #23
D.A.  OP
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 ..::KING::.. said
them ms n*ggas get punked around my way we be too deep

real talk
same here, theyre pus*y around here

the SUR XIII homies kept those pussies in check

but what people dont understand is that MS isnt organized

theyre just a bunch of immigrants running around thinking they still live under the Salvadorian turf and disregard American laws

three of them k!lled 2 little kids awhile back, real g's dont k!ll innocent children

 13 years ago '04        #24
RAPSOURCE2003 10 heat pts10
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 ..::KING::.. said
them ms n*ggas get punked around my way we be too deep

real talk
IT PROBABLY TAKES ABOUT 10 OF UR HOMIES TO PUNK 2, BUT LET THERE BE ONE ON ONE AND THEY'LL PROBABLY TAKE UR MAN HOOD.

ANYWAYS THESE fu*kERS ARE CRAZY, I CANT EVEN GO TO EL SALVADOR NO MORE, THESE MUTHAfu*kERS SEE ANY BODY THAT IS BALD THEY GO AND GET U ALSO IF U HAVE JEWELRY, CELLPHONES ETC. THEY'LL SNATCH IT AND IF U DONT GIVE IT TO THEM THEY'LL CUT UR HANDS OFF AND IF UR RING DONT COME OUT THEN THERE GOES UR FINGER... MS13 = SICK fu*kS
OH YEAH AND AND OF COURSE SOME OF THEM ARE pus*y fu*kS (LIKE ANY OTHER GANGS) , BUT THERE IS ALWAYS THAT BRAINWASHED KID WHO BANGS ALL HIS LIFE AND KNOWS NO OTHER LIFE. AND YES THEY'RE ORGANIZED, JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS I'VE SEEN A REPORT HOW THEY WERE k!llING OFF DRUG DEALERS AND INVADING THEIR STASH HOUSE ROOMS USING MILITARY TACTICS. IT'S GETTING SO BAD THAT FBI IS GOING AFTER THEM.


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 01-11-2006, 05:56 PM         #25
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lol sh*t is gettin crazy

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