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 13 years ago '04        #1
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Nov 10 - PlayStation 3s won't play borrowed, used, or rented games
 

 
The official story: "We have made no official statement regarding coding for PS3 games."--Sony spokesperson.

What we heard: Given the billions of dollars it sinks into its movie, music, and games divisions, it's little wonder Sony is big on digital rights management. The company has implemented anti-copying measures for years and has admitted it has been installing cloaking rootkits to hide DRM programs. (It has since issued a patch to remove the rootkit.)

Those familiar with Sony's CD DRM practices were unsurprised when Joystiq reported that the company has patented DRM software that could prevent PlayStation 3s from playing used or borrowed games. The site cites US Patent #6,816,972, which is for "a device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media." Specifically, the patented technology would verify that when software was inserted into a "machine" (read: console), it was registered to that machine. If it couldn't, the technology would prompt the machine to shut down, preventing the software from being accessed.

Such measures would be fine and dandy, were they targeted at pirated software. But the patented tech--which bears the name of Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi--is specifically designed to prevent used software from being sold. "Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible," it reads. Such measures would also prevent lent or rented software from being played.

But would Sony incorporate technology from Patent #6,816,972 into the PS3? On one hand, doing so would guarantee that each gamer would buy a new copy of each PS3 game, theoretically meaning bigger sales to help defray the steep cost of next-gen development. It would also remove the PS3 from the used-game trade, a market from which Sony gets no revenue.

However, there would be some major drawbacks to implementing Patent # 6,816,972 technology into the PS3. It would mean forfeiting the rental market to Microsoft's Xbox 360. Though there are signs that the game-rental stories are in decline--Blockbuster Video is reportedly shopping around its GameRush subsidiary--Netflix-esque services like GameFly are gaining in popularity. Then there's the fact that many people can't afford to buy a whole lot of games. When presented with a choice between a console that does play rented games and one that doesn't, which way do you think they'll go? There's also the risk of sparking a blacklash like the one currently raging over the BMG DRM rootkit.

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 13 years ago '04        #2
---Max-Payne--- 299 heat pts299
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It says rumour dude


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 11-10-2005, 01:51 PM         #3
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But the patented tech--which bears the name of Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi--is specifically designed to prevent used software from being sold.
hmmm.....if this is so then the rumor might just be true.....eh oh well.....good goin Ken!

 11-10-2005, 01:53 PM         #4
LanceUppercut 
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Rumor

1) It wouldnt be good for Gamestops and other Video Stores that likely make a goood little bit off of reselling used games, and Rental Stores.

2) It could be good or bad for developers less sharing more buying, or less buying due to the fact they have little resources when sampling games and will essentially have to go on hearsay alone.

I doubt this will be implemented, IMO it's to big of a "What If"

And patents mean nothing, other than you have the right to whatever is patent is for, not that it is guaranteed to be used.


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 13 years ago '04        #5
Ill Fred 
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well sony already got a lawsuit with that rootkit because it literally messes up the computers.

 11-10-2005, 01:56 PM         #6
LanceUppercut 
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 Ill Fred said
well sony already got a lawsuit with that rootkit because it literally messes up the computers.
And...?

 11-10-2005, 01:57 PM         #7
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They puttin it out there to measure the consumers backlash.if the consumers dont seem to care then everyone will have to buy new games for the PS3.That FUKIN SUCKs.Most of my games I buy used cuz there cheaper.now I wont be able to take the game to my boys crib to wip his a.ss in some Tekken9 or some sh*t.

 13 years ago '04        #8
Da Ill One|M 4602 heat pts4602
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that's easy to get around though reagrdless if it's implemented...the hackrs will create a disc that you put into your ps3 first and it will tell that program that game is a new one so you could play whatever you want whenever you want...they CAN'T STOP THE HACKING they can only hope to contain it...

 11-10-2005, 02:21 PM         #9
UpStart 
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so take the system


^^^aimed towards Spanish


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 11-10-2005, 02:25 PM         #10
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if they do then theres no point on gettin a ps3. Cant even borrow a friend's game............ I kno blockbuster gonna b pissed

 13 years ago '05        #11
g0tt1 211 heat pts211
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some nerd will find a way to do it

 11-10-2005, 02:30 PM         #12
rara2003 
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i know its a rumor but that would suck for the ps3 users

 11-10-2005, 02:31 PM         #13
lloydbank$69 
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Oh man if sony does that they can forget selling any playstations. I love PS man they better not

 13 years ago '04        #14
MainEv3nt 21 heat pts21
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how the fu*k a ps3 gon know u borrowed a game lmao

 13 years ago '04        #15
famoussasjohn 17 heat pts17
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i dont get it , game rental places use RETAIL games so wtf?

 13 years ago '04        #16
boimannie2004 4 heat pts
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 famoussasjohn said
i dont get it , game rental places use RETAIL games so wtf?
They talking bout RETAIL games. Basically the first system that the game is played on is the ONLY system that will be allowed to play it. I don't know how they would impliment that tho because wouldnt the ps3 have to burn/write some sort of system key or something to the disc to "lock out" any other ps3 system

 13 years ago '04        #17
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Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard for a console. There is no way that would ever happen.

 13 years ago '05        #18
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Xbox 360

 11-10-2005, 03:14 PM         #19
LanceUppercut 
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 money36 said
Thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard for a console. There is no way that would ever happen.
Its basically a product key that PC games use, just without the key

 11-10-2005, 03:15 PM         #20
LanceUppercut 
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Lke I said a patent is the furthest thing from a guarantee or confirmation.

So im not worried at all until something is official.


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 11-10-2005, 03:20 PM         #21
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i think thats some bullsh*t, only gonna boost xbox sales

i'm sure they'll make specific games taht say not for sale or somethin on them and give em to rental outlets

 11-10-2005, 03:21 PM         #22
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This sh*t is dumb and obviously not true.

 13 years ago '04        #23
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Anyone who actually thinks this will happen is a fool

 11-10-2005, 03:31 PM         #24
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if they do that the ps3 wont sell

 13 years ago '05        #25
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 urban[D]ox said
how the fu*k a ps3 gon know u borrowed a game lmao
seriously...

the ps3 would either

A) have to burn something to the game disc signifying the game is used
B) network all of the ps3's together in the world

not going to happen.

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