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 09-07-2005, 02:56 PM         #31
Saltine_Escobar  OP
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im white and i listen to prez...not a big deal to me, does seem kinda hyprocritecal [sp?] on rap fans

 13 years ago '04        #32
MainEv3nt 21 heat pts21
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 13 years ago '04        #33
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 brian8947 said
Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.

that was a joke right.


anyway R.B.G. 4 life

 09-07-2005, 03:53 PM         #34
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 brian8947 said
Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.
Dog, at the concerts, the white ppl b screaming the sh*t. They love it...if they didn't, would they buy the sh*t?

 09-07-2005, 04:01 PM         #35
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its not about the word..

if someone says ?????? or n*gga or something, its not the word.. its the CONTEXT and the MEANING..

if a white man hates black people, doesnt matter what word he says.. its wrong.. if a black man hates white people.. same ignorant sh*t..

you guys always screw up the real issue.. the issue isnt the word.. no white person cares about being called a cracker..

people care about some ignorant black person sounding like the KKK on his CD talking about hating the entire white race... thats the same sh*t as KKK talk...

 09-07-2005, 04:01 PM         #36
Sharp Shooter  OP
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On 'Let's get Free' their first album it was kind of all over the place.

I mean

It put me off the album

Im white

And i'd get murdered if i put ??????, ??????, ?????? all over an album

Im not saying i racist but it just is the same

them going cracker, cracker, cracker is racism

i HATE to see racism either way.

 09-07-2005, 04:03 PM         #37
Sharp Shooter  OP
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^^Here's more of the same

Why do the owners of this site censor ?????? and not cracker?

 09-07-2005, 04:04 PM         #38
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 j_espo1 said
youd be a goddamn idiot to listen to them if you were white.

p.s. mizzati i stole your avatar
there are some idiots in their video "Hip Hop" white people wearin jamacian flags

 09-07-2005, 04:05 PM         #39
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 Sharp Shooter said
^^Here's more of the same

Why do the owners of this site censor ?????? and not cracker?
white people dont care about cracker... i havent ever heard one white person be offended by it... so i guess thats why

again, i dont care about words.. its all context and meaning.. that dude could have used cracker 8 billion times in that song for all i care.. dont give a sh*t.. but him saying he hates white people, going to run up on white people and sh*t.... he is the equivalent of those white dudes in white masks back in the day talking about black people being sh*t and what not.... dead prez = KKK, if thats what he wants to be.. than he has more in common with the racist white men than he does with anyone else.. they can hang out and have a beer and talk about new ways to talk down other races and sh*t.

 09-07-2005, 04:39 PM         #40
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wow cracker is not as serious as n!gger, lets be real thats just the way history played it out...

I know when i say that "white people" are all like thats ignorant their both derogatory words, but n!gger has a lot more bad history behind, cracker is just a.ssociated to the sound of a slave masters whip...

 13 years ago '04        #41
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Dead Prez is the truth

 13 years ago '04        #42
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 *eckounltd1972* said
Guess you don't know that "cracker" was a word for the slavemasters because that's the sound the whip made when they were whipped. But if you say "cracker" don't mean nothing anymore, then you're right.
IM GLAD SOMEBODY FINALLY BROUGHT THAT TO THE FOREFRONT! CRACKER AND ?????? IN NO WAY HOLD THE SAME WEIGHT...

 13 years ago '04        #43
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If Dead Prez said words like Peckerwood, O'Fay and ??????, then i would see why white people would have a problem

 09-07-2005, 04:58 PM         #44
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once again, people showing their IQ..

its not the words people get upset about.. nobody gives a sh*t about the word cracker.

peopel give a sh*t about them saying they HATE white people..

 09-07-2005, 05:06 PM         #45
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 LuckyBrand said
once again, people showing their IQ..

its not the words people get upset about.. nobody gives a sh*t about the word cracker.

peopel give a sh*t about them saying they HATE white people..
yesss...u nailed it on the head...propz!

 09-07-2005, 05:08 PM         #46
Sharp Shooter  OP
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no,

i care about the principle

people can hapily call me cracker, but when i go 'fu*k you n!gger' (not that i ever would, my best friend's black for christ's sake) ya'll got a problem

it's like everything

white person k!lls black person, racist
black person k!lls white person.....

 09-07-2005, 05:09 PM         #47
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 LuckyBrand said
its not about the word..

if someone says ?????? or n*gga or something, its not the word.. its the CONTEXT and the MEANING..

if a white man hates black people, doesnt matter what word he says.. its wrong.. if a black man hates white people.. same ignorant sh*t..

you guys always screw up the real issue.. the issue isnt the word.. no white person cares about being called a cracker..

people care about some ignorant black person sounding like the KKK on his CD talking about hating the entire white race... thats the same sh*t as KKK talk...
U right about this man,it the context in which the word is used

 09-07-2005, 05:12 PM         #48
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 Sharp Shooter said
no,

i care about the principle

people can hapily call me cracker, but when i go 'fu*k you n!gger' (not that i ever would, my best friend's black for christ's sake) ya'll got a problem

it's like everything

white person k!lls black person, racist
black person k!lls white person..
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uhhhh no both could be a racist act or it might not even be a racist act you getting outta control with it...

 09-07-2005, 05:22 PM         #49
Sharp Shooter  OP
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No!

In the newspaper, tv, internet, people's perspective

Ooh that white boy is racist, he k!lled a black man, it's over race. I agree that it could not be, but thats how people percieve it every time

 09-07-2005, 05:27 PM         #50
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 DBLOCK1 said
U right about this man,it the context in which the word is used
thanks dude, i think everyone KNOWS this stuff.. but they let anger, jealousy, hatred, etc... get in the way of COMMON SENSE and logic!

the racist black people are the equivalent of the racist white people.. they are bad.. they make more racists.. they make things worse for everyone. they are ignorant.

skin color is a biological thing based on the location of peoples great ancestors on the planet and the amount of sun they received.. little else.

if a black dude called me a cracker, jokingly, i dont care. its context.

if he calls me "SIR" and then proceeds to tell me he HATES ME because I am white, than i dont like that..

its not what name you call people, its the context.. its the meaning.. its what you are trying to get across..

thats why black people can say ngga to each other, the context is a.ssumed to be passive/friendly.. black people are sensitive to a white person using it, for right reason, because of its historical connotation when used by white people. this is not a racial thing, its a rightful predjudice..

now, a black guy saying cracker isnt really a sensitive situation... but sayin "i hate white people".. that is.. as that is racism, and BLATANT.

no hate here man, i just dont like to see what seems to be a resurgence in racism, of any form.

 09-07-2005, 07:24 PM         #51
sappy01  OP
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Can someone up this in the jukebox?...

 09-07-2005, 07:35 PM         #52
gimmetunes  OP
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ya i will rite now

 09-07-2005, 07:37 PM         #53
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I'm white...and who cares.....music is an expreesion of their views....if you don't like it, shut it off.

 09-07-2005, 07:41 PM         #54
gimmetunes  OP
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k its up in the new release section.

 09-07-2005, 07:47 PM         #55
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 Escrow said
I'm white...and who cares.....music is an expreesion of their views....if you don't like it, shut it off.
i wasnt saying they COULDNT express their views
i am dis-agreeing with their views

its moronic to say "if you dont liek it, turn it off"..

thast like saying "dont like bush's views, turn off his speeches"... dont like the KKK? dont go their rallies... etc etc..

racism isnt music, its a feeling, a way of life, a disease..

i am disagreeing with racism.. their VIEW is wrong.

 13 years ago '05        #56
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i think they think as if "white people dont like black people so why should we"...

 13 years ago '04        #57
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Im white and I dont give a sh*t if somebody calles me cracker...I call myself cracker all the time....sounds better then honky...I remember I was little as fu*k maybe 10 or 11 years old and had Public Enemy posters and shirts....even though alot of it was black power type of music that I really couldnt relate to I still liked the way they were going against the goverment and sounded so militant with they music...Dead Prez the same way...I dont like them as much as I did public enemy but you gotta understand that we are listening to hiphop.....an artform that blacks created....so really they can say whatever the hell they want to...you may not approve...but just dont buy the album if you dont like it or are easily offended.....theres plenty of other artist out there who dont say cracker on their albums....

 09-07-2005, 08:23 PM         #58
Professa  OP
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haha damn i think that sh*ts funny

 09-07-2005, 08:52 PM         #59
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i dont even lisen to dead prez so it doesint bother me

if thats the way they feel i dont care

 09-07-2005, 09:15 PM         #60
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 persuazion said
Im white and I dont give a sh*t if somebody calles me cracker...I call myself cracker all the time....sounds better then honky...I remember I was little as fu*k maybe 10 or 11 years old and had Public Enemy posters and shirts....even though alot of it was black power type of music that I really couldnt relate to I still liked the way they were going against the goverment and sounded so militant with they music...Dead Prez the same way...I dont like them as much as I did public enemy but you gotta understand that we are listening to hiphop.....an artform that blacks created....so really they can say whatever the hell they want to...you may not approve...but just dont buy the album if you dont like it or are easily offended.....theres plenty of other artist out there who dont say cracker on their albums....

wow.. did you read anything I said??

i dont give a sh*t about the word cracker.. drop that subject completely.. its irrelevant.. nobody cares about the word "cracker"..

its about racism.. sure its black music, does that mean its okay for people to be racist?

the amount of people in here making excuses for racism is shocking to me... racism is pure ignorance, stupid a.ss sh*t...

just because they are black singing in a black music, doesnt make it okay to be hating on people because of skin color..

thats like saying "oh its okay for white people to say how they hate black people in country music, because, well, they hate black people and its their music so.. if you dont like it, turn it off, but its okay otherwise!!"

thats the EXACT equivalent of what you just said..

and its dumb...

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