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 09-07-2005, 01:27 PM         #1
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Dead Prez using the word "Crackers"
 

 
what r ur thoughts on Dead Prez's verse in the song "Ridin" on the new David Banner album "Certified"? I dont think its rite for him to have said what he said, but thats just my opinion. what do u guys think??

This is the last line of his verse, and you can click the link below to hear the song if u never heard it before.


"i hate calling ??????s ??????s so ima take it backwards, but i got no love for whitey so i love calling em crackers"

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 13 years ago '04        #2
Veno da Don 24 heat pts24
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You must be new to Hip-Hop.

DP first album was filled with sh*t like that. If that's the way they feel it just the way they feel. Right or Wrong it's on them.

 09-07-2005, 01:30 PM         #3
brian8947  OP
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Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.

 09-07-2005, 01:31 PM         #4
Old Man River  OP
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lol wow..

go cop anything by dead prez..

 09-07-2005, 01:33 PM         #5
gimmetunes  OP
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i know they said that kidna stuff alot before, but now that racism is becomming a big issue again cuz of the hurricane and stuff, i duno it just seemed weird. just my opinion tho, im not saying im rite and theyr wrong or anyhting like that. im just curious to see wut everyone else thinks.

 13 years ago '04        #6
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 brian8947 said
Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.
Most of Dead Prez's fans aren't white. You'd have to ignore ALOT of sh*t to be white and listen to Dead Prez. I'm black and it was weird for me try listening to their first album. It was "Got damn, they hate white people that much?"

 13 years ago '05        #7
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Styles also said it on "Problem Child," even though he was mad that Eminem said "n*gga" 10 YEARS AGO. I don't think it's cool that African-Americans THINK they can say "cracker", but if a Caucasian says "n*gga", it's all over. If Caucasians can't say "n*gga", why do African-Americans think it's ok to use racial slurs about every other race, sh*t's not right. Even though mad Caucasians say "n*gga" around or not around their African-American fans. And don't even try to play that slavery sh*t, y'all weren't slaves and just because 100s of years ago our people weren't treated right doesn't mean it's ok to you slurs now. I had to keep it politically correct, because if I didn't I'd be ruled out as a "Rap loving 'n*gga' who just runs off at the mouth."


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 09-07-2005, 01:40 PM         #8
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 brian8947 said
Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.
youd be a goddamn idiot to listen to them if you were white.

p.s. mizzati i stole your avatar

 13 years ago '04        #9
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 *eckounltd1972* said
And don't even try to play that slavery sh*t, y'all weren't slaves and just because 100s of years ago our people weren't treated right doesn't mean it's ok to you slurs now.
100's of years? Try 30 or 40 and the sh*t still goes down today on a smaller scale and you'd be blind as hell to tell me I'm lying.

You know this whole thing has to do with the mistreatment of blacks back then. Its like 'yall did it to us back then, now its our turn.' Its like whites now have to pay for the mistake of some whites back then. I'm not saying its
right but thats the way it is.

But don't act like the sh*t isn't about even. Yeah there are a 100 rappers that say cracker, and probably of 100's of comedians that do the same. But there are also 1000's of white people all over the net talking about "?????? this" "?????? that". Hell, they're even on this site.

One thing I will say is that

100's of years of n@gger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>30 years of cracker

I'm not saying either one is okay but you can't deny that one carries alot more history and therefore is considered much more offensive. N!gger is a word that was used by slave owners, KKK members, and the same people that hung blacks. So when a black he's the word "n*gga" come out of a whites mouth its a lil too similar and some blacks get defensive. Cracker was used by people in TV shows and movies. I just don't see how you can get one word that was used by slave owners, and a word that was used by George Jefferson and put them in the same league.

Once again though. Neither word is right to use. I've NEVER called a white person a cracker and I never plan too.


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 13 years ago '04        #10
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 j_espo1 said
p.s. mizzati i stole your avatar
Take it, I've got tons

 09-07-2005, 01:41 PM         #11
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 *eckounltd1972* said
Styles also said it on "Problem Child," even though he was mad that Eminem said "n*gga" 10 YEARS AGO. I don't think it's cool that African-Americans THINK they can say "cracker", but if a Caucasian says "n*gga", it's all over. If Caucasians can't say "n*gga", why do African-Americans think it's ok to use racial slurs about every other race, sh*t's not right. Even though mad Caucasians say "n*gga" around or not around their African-American fans. And don't even try to play that slavery sh*t, y'all weren't slaves and just because 100s of years ago our people weren't treated right doesn't mean it's ok to you slurs now. I had to keep it politically correct, because if I didn't I'd be ruled out as a "Rap loving 'n*gga' who just runs off at the mouth."
Lemme guess you love whitey? Uncle Tom maybe? Nah I'm playin wit u fam... I feel what u sayin... I think racism as a whole is bullsh*t... But sad thing is it will always be here because of biggot a.ss f*g**ts nah mean... So we just gotta let sh*t roll off our backs... But I'm black and gotta put up wit da sh*t in one way or another everyday... So i see where some of DP's anomisity comes from...

 13 years ago '04        #12
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"Who shot biggie smalls, if we don't get them, they gonna get us all, i'm down for runnin up on them cra*kas in they city hall" Dead Prez-Hip Hop


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 13 years ago '04        #13
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they do nothin to dead prez but someone white says n*gga they quick to jump on it

 09-07-2005, 01:47 PM         #14
All4n  OP
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Dead Prez are racist, so are alot of other black people. White people are racist too, get over it. Dead Prez have some hot songs, and I'm white.

 09-07-2005, 01:51 PM         #15
Jez_humphrey  OP
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cracker just sounds funny to me, doesnt bother me at all(im white)

 09-07-2005, 01:52 PM         #16
Crank  OP
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?????? was a word used by white people to hold down blacks and show they were slaves... thats why it is not acceptable for whites to say n*gga or ??????... now cracker was never used in any sort like that and has no real meaning except soemthing you eat


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 09-07-2005, 01:52 PM         #17
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 stay alert said
"Who shot biggie smalls, if we don't get them, they gonna get us all, i'm down for runnin up on them cra*kas in they city hall" Dead Prez-Hip Hop
i love that song! one of ma fav rap songs. u can even hear the beat durring the beginning of the chappelle show when hes comming onto the stage

 13 years ago '04        #18
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fu*kin crackers always complaining. but yall love to say n*gga this and n*gga that tho huh. bastards

 09-07-2005, 02:16 PM         #19
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n*gga is used by blacks as a almost a positive word, but no white people run around callin each other crackers, cracker is more offensive than n*gga, but the same as ??????.

 13 years ago '05        #20
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 Crank said
?????? was a word used by white people to hold down blacks and show they were slaves... thats why it is not acceptable for whites to say n*gga or ??????... now cracker was never used in any sort like that and has no real meaning except soemthing you eat
Guess you don't know that "cracker" was a word for the slavemasters because that's the sound the whip made when they were whipped. But if you say "cracker" don't mean nothing anymore, then you're right.

 09-07-2005, 02:24 PM         #21
Murderer Muzik  OP
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lol at the white people in this thread

 13 years ago '05        #22
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 Mista Mizatti said
100's of years? Try 30 or 40 and the sh*t still goes down today on a smaller scale and you'd be blind as hell to tell me I'm lying.

You know this whole thing has to do with the mistreatment of blacks back then. Its like 'yall did it to us back then, now its our turn.' Its like whites now have to pay for the mistake of some whites back then. I'm not saying its
right but thats the way it is.

But don't act like the sh*t isn't about even. Yeah there are a 100 rappers that say cracker, and probably of 100's of comedians that do the same. But there are also 1000's of white people all over the net talking about "?????? this" "?????? that". Hell, they're even on this site.

One thing I will say is that

100's of years of n@gger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>30 years of cracker

I'm not saying either one is okay but you can't deny that one carries alot more history and therefore is considered much more offensive. N!gger is a word that was used by slave owners, KKK members, and the same people that hung blacks. So when a black he's the word "n*gga" come out of a whites mouth its a lil too similar and some blacks get defensive. Cracker was used by people in TV shows and movies. I just don't see how you can get one word that was used by slave owners, and a word that was used by George Jefferson and put them in the same league.

Once again though. Neither word is right to use. I've NEVER called a white person a cracker and I never plan too.
So we should stoop down to their level and use some ignorant sounding racial slur, I think not because Caucaians, hate it or love it, run this country, and if you said something going against the country or country's leading race, then you're a terrorist. Or according to the "Patriot Act," how the fu*k is it a patriot act when the 1st Amendment is gone, or you're a terrorist for speaking out. America, land of the free, wasn't true then, not true not.

 09-07-2005, 02:29 PM         #23
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cracker dont bother me, plus it came from slaveowners being the whipcrackers, and lets get free is one of my favorite albums ever

 13 years ago '04        #24
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 *eckounltd1972* said
So we should stoop down to their level and use some ignorant sounding racial slur
Brotha did you miss this part of my post?

[QUOTE=Mista Mizatti]

Once again though. Neither word is right to use. I've NEVER called a white person a cracker and I never plan too.

 13 years ago '04        #25
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 Mista Mizatti said
100's of years? Try 30 or 40 and the sh*t still goes down today on a smaller scale and you'd be blind as hell to tell me I'm lying.

You know this whole thing has to do with the mistreatment of blacks back then. Its like 'yall did it to us back then, now its our turn.' Its like whites now have to pay for the mistake of some whites back then. I'm not saying its
right but thats the way it is.

But don't act like the sh*t isn't about even. Yeah there are a 100 rappers that say cracker, and probably of 100's of comedians that do the same. But there are also 1000's of white people all over the net talking about "?????? this" "?????? that". Hell, they're even on this site.

One thing I will say is that

100's of years of n@gger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>30 years of cracker

I'm not saying either one is okay but you can't deny that one carries alot more history and therefore is considered much more offensive. N!gger is a word that was used by slave owners, KKK members, and the same people that hung blacks. So when a black he's the word "n*gga" come out of a whites mouth its a lil too similar and some blacks get defensive. Cracker was used by people in TV shows and movies. I just don't see how you can get one word that was used by slave owners, and a word that was used by George Jefferson and put them in the same league.

Once again though. Neither word is right to use. I've NEVER called a white person a cracker and I never plan too.

:applause: :applause:

Damn couldn't have said the sh*t better myself.

But people need to stop with this "You weren't a slave" sh*t it's not about physical hardship's but 100's of year of mental enslavement that still exist today.

You don't just enslave people for hundreds of year mentally and physically then take the physical chains off of these people you bred to obey and follow you, hundreds of years of telling them they are inferior and treating them the same.

Then expect them to forget and catch up over 10 or 20 years. The sh*t is impossible.

I would get deep off into it but that's O.K. I don't feel like dealing with a Race War today. But please believe the William Lynch Laws hold VERY TRUE.

 09-07-2005, 02:32 PM         #26
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 brian8947 said
Pretty ignorant when most of they fans white.
Most white people don't care, so it isn't really a big deal... I have a lot of white friends that call themselfves ??????s, I also know black people who call them selves ??????s... so whatever.

 13 years ago '04        #27
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 *eckounltd1972* said
Guess you don't know that "cracker" was a word for the slavemasters because that's the sound the whip made when they were whipped. But if you say "cracker" don't mean nothing anymore, then you're right.
I honestly did not know that. You learn something every day

 09-07-2005, 02:41 PM         #28
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 j_espo1 said
youd be a goddamn idiot to listen to them if you were white.

p.s. mizzati i stole your avatar
wtf? I'm white and I dont give a fu*k....If I met them in person, they wouldn't give a fu*k either...it's just music man, people speaking their mind, and if they came across some straight up crackers, I dont blame them for rippin on them...

Ded Prez .. 'Hell Yeah':

"When We see the Domino's car headlights..
white boy in the wrong at the right time..
soon as the car door open up he mine...
put the pistol to his nose, by the look on his face he prolly sh*tted in his clothes..."

^ Funniest a.ss line. ever...

I'm white and I can laugh at this...
first off because white people aren't all pu**y..
and Russians are def not pu**y....

 13 years ago '04        #29
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 gimmetunes said
i love that song! one of ma fav rap songs. u can even hear the beat durring the beginning of the chappelle show when hes comming onto the stage
yea that song has alot of bass in it, if you have a good system this is a song you should play in it.

 09-07-2005, 02:43 PM         #30
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 Mista Mizatti said
Most of Dead Prez's fans aren't white. You'd have to ignore ALOT of sh*t to be white and listen to Dead Prez. I'm black and it was weird for me try listening to their first album. It was "Got damn, they hate white people that much?"
It's been reported in many sources that something like 75% of the people at the average DP concert are white

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