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 13 years ago '04        #61
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honestly,

i think
Talib Kaweli (in bx) is massivly over-rated
..so is Common n Mos Def
G-Unit is starting to become gay wit 2 many reasons
Young Jezzys album was worth a listen n was great (not a classic)
Get Rich Or Die Tryin should neva
1- become a movie
2- become a classic (he used to many SPECIAL guest appearences)
Lloyd Banks -SHould try his own thing for a while
Cassidy - Needs a real beef wit someone of his own caliber (lloyd banks n so on)
f!ght Klub needs more WELL-KNOWN artists
Lil Wayne is nice as fu*k
DIplomats r nice as fu*k
Jay-Z is a great in the game
BIG is NOT overrated, but i believe Pac is, "WHy is Pac the greatest? Becuz _____? Most fans like Pac a.d., RIP, but death doesn't mean instant Rap God

 09-03-2005, 08:03 PM         #62
Andre3000  OP
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Nas hasn't fell of his fans have by listening to horrible music like "The Massacre".

Jay-Z is the the best rapper ever (Not True)

50 Cent is very hood (Never even goes to his hood)

Game is a real blood (He basically just woke up in the morning and decided he wanted to be one)

 09-03-2005, 08:42 PM         #63
sim_city87  OP
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Jay Z changed the game more than most people think, and more than the haters want to believe.

Also, Jay Z spits hot bars on every type of track. It's just that when he does his pop-love songs, people don't notice it as often. This actually goes for a lot of rappers, save for maybe Biggie Smalls.

Tupac is overrated by many people. His natural rap abilities (flow/delivery) weren't that great.

Biggie was the most naturally talented MC ever.

Redman is underrated because of his personality. Same goes for Busta Rhymes.

GZA is the best in the Wu Tang, followed by Inspectah Deck

DJ Premier has some beats that people consider legendary, but aren't that hot (I'm The Man and The sh*t Is Real. Come Clean was okay, but a little too simplistic)

Other than that, Premo's record is pretty much flawless.

Timbaland is better than Dr Dre beatwise.

Alchemist could be a major force in the rap game if he produces hot sh*t for Shady.

 09-04-2005, 01:21 AM         #64
ppits_dawg  OP
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welcome to ca$hville (young buck) is the best g unit CD

bloodhound is the best song on GRODT, followed by patiently waiting

Loyal to the game (2pac) was a good cd

the 3 best 2pac songs are: everything they owe, pain, keep ya head up

lifestyles ov da poor and dangerous (big L) sucks because the beats blow

big pun > fat joe....

jody breeze > jeezy, but his career will flop anyway

bun b cannot rap for sh*t, monotone a.ss n*gga

kno (cunninlyguists) is easily one of the best producers

DMX sucks

dr octagon > del the funkee homosapien

the "icy hot stuntaz" have songs that are worth keeping bcuz they are funny as fu*k

kanye west needs to stay the fu*k away from microphones

joyful rebellion (K-Os) was good sh*t

method mans CD's suck

mobb deep has had good songs here and there but 'the infamous' is the only complete CD by them

new danger is the best cd of any cd made by mos def, common, or talib kweli

stillmatic > illmatic

snoop needs to stop rapping ASAP, every cd hes made has been worse and worse




in general, the beat is MUCH more important than the lyrics
underground rappers are in it for the money just as much as famous rappers are
a cd only needs to have 5 good songs to be a "good cd" (surprising how few cd's meet this qualifcation)





some of the best cds
young buck - welcome to ca$hville
canibus - mic club
big punisher - capital punishment
big L - big picture
frayser boy - gone on that bay
frayser boy - me being me
kno - the white albumum (jay-z's black album remixed)
lil wyte - doubt me now
mos def - the new danger
royce da 5.9 - death is certain
sly boogy - judgement day


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 13 years ago '05        #65
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sun rises in the east>illmatic

liquid swords>36 chambers

2pac=overrated

wu tang has 1 member who is a.ss: u god

DJ priemier>dr.dre as a producer

ghostface is the only wu member who had more than 1 classic (ironman and SC)

methodman has 2 classics if you count blackout

chronic 2001 is borderline a.ss just average...

 13 years ago '05        #66
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 ppits_dawg said
welcome to ca$hville (young buck) is the best g unit CD

bloodhound is the best song on GRODT, followed by patiently waiting

Loyal to the game (2pac) was a good cd

the 3 best 2pac songs are: everything they owe, pain, keep ya head up

lifestyles ov da poor and dangerous (big L) sucks because the beats blow

big pun > fat joe....

jody breeze > jeezy, but his career will flop anyway

bun b cannot rap for sh*t, monotone a.ss n*gga

kno (cunninlyguists) is easily one of the best producers

DMX sucks

dr octagon > del the funkee homosapien

the "icy hot stuntaz" have songs that are worth keeping bcuz they are funny as fu*k

kanye west needs to stay the fu*k away from microphones

joyful rebellion (K-Os) was good sh*t

method mans CD's suck

mobb deep has had good songs here and there but 'the infamous' is the only complete CD by them

new danger is the best cd of any cd made by mos def, common, or talib kweli

stillmatic > illmatic

snoop needs to stop rapping ASAP, every cd hes made has been worse and worse




in general, the beat is MUCH more important than the lyrics
underground rappers are in it for the money just as much as famous rappers are
a cd only needs to have 5 good songs to be a "good cd" (surprising how few cd's meet this qualifcation)





some of the best cds
young buck - welcome to ca$hville
canibus - mic club
big punisher - capital punishment
big L - big picture
frayser boy - gone on that bay
frayser boy - me being me
kno - the white albumum (jay-z's black album remixed)
lil wyte - doubt me now
mos def - the new danger
royce da 5.9 - death is certain
sly boogy - judgement day

wait so you think the original tical album is a.ss...but young bucks CD is good. and big L's CD sucks cuz the beats are bad? Rap was never about beats. lyrics>beats anyday.

BTW: im not hatin...I just had to say somethin....


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 13 years ago '04        #67
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 BackBlock_OG said
"If Faith had twins, she'd probably have two pac's."

-that was a Faith diss idiot.
uh it's a pac diss fu*khead get your facts straight biggie was saying that she would have kids so it would be two pacs and they would be his sons so hes sonning him

 13 years ago '05        #68
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 ItsDaCarter20 said
total opposite


Judgemnt Day WORST album of 2000
just to tell you JD was released in 98

 09-04-2005, 06:53 AM         #69
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- Nas k!lled jay. jay didn't even hurt nas.

REASON - after that battle nas not only gained his position in the hood but gained more recognition... so how could nas have lost?
the battle caused people in to take sides and jay lost alot to nas. its evident.

- GFK is best in wu tang

- Stillmatic > illmatic imo. but illmatic is no doubt a classic.

- Murs, Shyne and Talib Kweli are the MUTHA fu*kIN TRUTH.

- Murs's 9th edition album > any of Jay's albums.

- Jay is only recognied as king of NY coz he knows how to stack the dollars.
i like jay alot but he is damn overrated imo.

- Kanye's lyrics are wack and his punchlines make me smh and cringe.

- game > whole of gunit.

- Jin Top 10 artists when it comes to battling.

- Will Smith is only hated because he's not from the hood. and so therefore doesn't rap about the struggle.

- the only rap legends alive are LL cool J, Nas and Jay. even tho i think jay is overrated but he brought alot to the table when he entered the rap game.

- Big L has better flow than anyone alive.


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 13 years ago '04        #70
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[QUOTE=illphil]- Nas k!lled jay. jay didn't even hurt nas.

REASON - after that battle nas not only gained his position in the hood but gained more recognition... so how could nas have lost?
the battle caused people in to take sides and jay lost alot to nas. its evident.

QUOTE]

not beefin but jay clearly won, they both dropped wut imo were classic albums after the battle but seriously jay started k!llin every song he was on n nas did his thing 4 a lil n jus faded off like he always does, n now u got jay runnin def jam, ownin basketball teams n sh*t n nas aint even signed..

 09-04-2005, 10:45 AM         #71
Wearin' The 4-5  OP
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Jay-Z Won

TaKEover > ether

super ugly > stillmatic freestyle

blueprint 2 (song) > last real n*gga alive

"jus cuz u dont understand him it dont mean that he nice,
jus mean u dont understand all the bullsh*t that he writes
is it oochie wally or is it one mic
is it black girl lost or shorty owe u for ice"

 13 years ago '04        #72
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
Jay-Z Won

TaKEover > ether

super ugly > stillmatic freestyle

blueprint 2 (song) > last real n*gga alive

"jus cuz u dont understand him it dont mean that he nice,
jus mean u dont understand all the bullsh*t that he writes
is it oochie wally or is it one mic
is it black girl lost or shorty owe u for ice"
:applause: :applause: :applause:

 09-04-2005, 10:53 AM         #73
Wearin' The 4-5  OP
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 illphil said
- Nas k!lled jay. jay didn't even hurt nas.

REASON - after that battle nas not only gained his position in the hood but gained more recognition... so how could nas have lost?
the battle caused people in to take sides and jay lost alot to nas. its evident.

- GFK is best in wu tang

- Stillmatic > illmatic imo. but illmatic is no doubt a classic.

- Murs, Shyne and Talib Kweli are the MUTHA fu*kIN TRUTH.

- Murs's 9th edition album > any of Jay's albums.

- Jay is only recognied as king of NY coz he knows how to stack the dollars.
i like jay alot but he is damn overrated imo.

- Kanye's lyrics are wack and his punchlines make me smh and cringe.

- game > whole of gunit.

- Jin Top 10 artists when it comes to battling.

- Will Smith is only hated because he's not from the hood. and so therefore doesn't rap about the struggle.

- the only rap legends alive are LL cool J, Nas and Jay. even tho i think jay is overrated but he brought alot to the table when he entered the rap game.

- Big L has better flow than anyone alive.
i mean, i respect ur opinion but that sh*t dont make sense to me, nas gained his position in the hood? but gained more recognition? explain that to me

nas was always supposedly a hood dude, but was exposed, to the basic rap fan it seem nas is a hood dude but in new york everybody in the hood kno nas is a clown, gets robbed on the set of his own videos and pays for his own chain

he gained recognition, how??, his highest selling album was it was written (correct me if im wrong) and that was years before the jay beef

i respect nas for wat he is, a lost soul, the begining of his career he tried the commericial thing, on it was written, he realized it wasnt him, but then did i am and nastradamus talkin bout ice and sh*t, but now it seems he found himself, and is secure in his spot regardless, from stillmatic to hopefully nas daq dow jones he remains the dude not worried about commericial success

nas > _____

and imo jay-z > ______

nas = jay-z they jus cater to two different audiences in in some cases like myself there audience overlaps.

 09-04-2005, 10:54 AM         #74
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Grind With Me> Your Favorite Rappers Song On The Radio

Camrons Bank Account> 50 Cents

Ready To Die > Illmatic

Just Blaze > Kanye West

Jim Jones > The South




U Mad?

 09-04-2005, 10:59 AM         #75
jaycesin  OP
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Canibus > everyone in the rap game

 09-04-2005, 02:15 PM         #76
super_10053  OP
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Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time

 09-04-2005, 03:05 PM         #77
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 super_10053 said
Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time
That can't be true if we live in a world where people think Jay Z is legend




:applause: True Story :applause:

 13 years ago '04        #78
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 hiphophorray123 said
WILL SMITH IS A fu*kING LEGEND

FINALLY SUM1 WIT SUM fu*kIN SENSE!

 09-04-2005, 09:20 PM         #79
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 hiphophorray123 said
WILL SMITH IS A fu*kING LEGEND
Elaborate?

 13 years ago '04        #80
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Every half-Over & Under artist (Com, Talib, Mos, De La..etc) should work with Kayne West.

Common might be able be beat everyone out in a battle (using lyrics, not whose funnier)

Saigon won't sell b/c his audience don't buy records...the buy mixtapes ( I hope I'm wrong on that one)

Nas & Jay will make a record, and either Kayne or Premo will produce it.

Memphis Bleek is dope, and wouldn't get so much hate if he wasn't under Jay.

Somebody will be smart enough to sign Skillz & Jean Grae to a major.

Nobody will blow out of the D (other the Slum & D12) because they're all sound the same.

Record sales would go up if the album dropped 2 weeks after the video drops, instead of a month & a half.

 09-04-2005, 09:53 PM         #81
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 Wearin' The 4-5 said
Jay-Z Won

TaKEover > ether

super ugly > stillmatic freestyle

blueprint 2 (song) > last real n*gga alive

"jus cuz u dont understand him it dont mean that he nice,
jus mean u dont understand all the bullsh*t that he writes
is it oochie wally or is it one mic
is it black girl lost or shorty owe u for ice"

i definately agree seems likea g roupie a.ss opinion but its real talk
Ether was name callin with a hot beat
bar for bar jigga won

- ludacris has yet to put out a well rounded cd to his upmost potential, he had half hot songs, otha half is fu*kin garbage

- Game is hurting himself more than anyhting with G-Unot campaign, looks desperate

- having an opinon and spittin it with a complex vocabulary doesnt mean your raw, just means u dont understand some of tha bullsh*t they write

- Gangstarr and Eric B and Rakim are defiantely best of Hip-Hop

- Paid in Full is the number 1 hip-op album of all time

- jay-z is not a legend yet.. but hes the closest thing to it out of living rappers,

- nas is inconsistent as hell but hes raw

- eminem fell off big time since MMLP

- Pitbull has one of the best flows in the game that youve yet to realise yet

- B.i.G and Pac are overrated in my eyes

- GRODT still does get you hype, play it and say it dont

to be continued...

 13 years ago '05        #82
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Nice Topic, propz on this sh*t:



Big L > Biggie, 2pac, Pun.

Big L greatest to ever live.

Papoose is the best rapper today.

Papoose= Next Big L

Takeover better then Ether.

TES > MMLP

AZ > Nas

Late Registeration not a classic.

First 3 Eminem albums= Classics

Jin would beat Cassidy in freestyle battle.

Akon best R&B singer today.

Mike Jones album was good.

I Dont hate/mind D12.


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 09-05-2005, 01:13 AM         #83
Hookz  OP
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- JayZ Is Not A Legend And Will Never Be Close To Being One
- The Best Consistent MC Out Is Black Thought
- The South Is 90% Beats, 10% Lyrics
- The West Has One Of The Most Lyrical Rappers In The Game Named Ras Kass
- D-Block Is The Best Group Out Right Now Along With The Whole Justus League
- LLoyd Banks Is Nothing But Garbage Now
- Bumpy Knuckles Would Beat The fu*k Out Of 50 Cent
- Houston Has The Worst Rappers In The Game Right Now Besides Bun B And Chamillionaire (Scarface Lives In ATL)
- There Isnt More Than 2 Good Rap Or RnB Singles Being Played On The Radio Anymore
- Little Brother, Saigon, Papoose, Joe Budden, The Game, Sly Boogy Are The Future
- Biggie Is Top 10 And So Is 2Pac
- Big Pun And Big L Cannot Be Considered Legends Because Neither Dropped A Classic Album.
- Eminem Is The Most Overrated Rapper In Rap History, He Isn't Lyrical.
- G-Unit Were Good Back In 2001-Early 2003 But Then Turned Wack
- Wu Tang Clan Is The Best Hip Hop Group Ever That Consisted Of All Rappers
- The Roots Are The Best Hip Hop Group Ever That Play Live Instruments
- Method Man, Ghostface k!llah, RZA, GZA, Ispector Deck, Masta k!lla, Raekwon, Are Each Top 20 All Time.


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 09-05-2005, 01:27 AM         #84
HipnotiK  OP
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"- Eminem Is The Most Overrated Rapper In Rap History, He Isn't Lyrical."

eminem is probably the most lyrical rapper ever almost... WTF are you smokin? you have to listen to slim shady lp, marshall mathers lp, and the eminem show

his lyrics and his rhymes are better than 99.999999% of all rappers EVER


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 09-05-2005, 01:36 AM         #85
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 HipnotiK said
"- Eminem Is The Most Overrated Rapper In Rap History, He Isn't Lyrical."

eminem is probably the most lyrical rapper ever almost... WTF are you smokin? you have to listen to slim shady lp, marshall mathers lp, and the eminem show

his lyrics and his rhymes are better than 99.999999% of all rapper EVER
You have To Pay Attention To What He's Saying, Not How Many Multi's Or Punchlines He Has. He Doesn't Say sh*t, He Just Rambles On About Random sh*t. Wow He Can Flow To Almost Any Beat And Can Use Multi's And Decent Punchlines. But He Doesn't Say sh*t.

People Dont Know What Lyrics Mean Anymore, Its Not About The Multi's, Punchlines, Or Any Of That. ITS ABOUT WHAT THE ARTIST IS SAYING, Which If Good, Can Be Aided By Multi's And Punchlines.


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 13 years ago '05        #86
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snoop went down hill when he left death row

no hes on some weak sh*t

 13 years ago '04        #87
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 SteveMachine said
uh it's a pac diss fu*khead get your facts straight biggie was saying that she would have kids so it would be two pacs and they would be his sons so hes sonning him
Homie, I can't even understand that sh*t you're sayin, but I'll tell you what I'm sayin. Big was dissin his wife, sayin she's pregnant but not by him. How the fu*k could he be dissin Pac with that line? That's his wife he's talking about. You talkin bout get my facts straight? n*gga I'm OG on my block. When I was out in the streets livin that sh*t B.I.G. was talking about on RTD, you was out in Austraila jumpin wit Kangeroos and throwin boomerangs and sh*t; mate. fu*k outta here, you ain't on my level homie.

 09-05-2005, 08:51 AM         #88
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People hate on Eminem cause of some bullsh*t he did when he was younger. If he never made them comments people would be all over him.

This isnt hiphop but it pisses me off.

Black people are just as racist as white people that are racist but when black people are racist noone takes notice.

 09-05-2005, 09:15 AM         #89
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 choong said
People hate on Eminem cause of some bullsh*t he did when he was younger. If he never made them comments people would be all over him.

This isnt hiphop but it pisses me off.

Black people are just as racist as white people that are racist but when black people are racist noone takes notice.
Man STFU u ??????, we are like this because we had 400 years of BS and are still beign put through the BS right now, don’t talk unless you could walk in our shoes, cause out life isn’t like yours, The hurricane shows and proves

 09-05-2005, 09:21 AM         #90
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SO being racist is gonna end the racism? to all you ignorant fu*ks

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